[Rhodes22-list] Florida Syndicate

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Sun Dec 18 23:20:38 EST 2005


Chris,

I understood what you meant, I just wanted everyone else to understand 
that while I think I can nail down the logistics for a single home port, 
I can't recover the boat after one-way trips.

If a group of people wants to take the boat to the Bahamas, have another 
group sail it around there for a while, and have a third group return 
it--why not?  As long as it gets back to home base somehow.

If the boat is useful for Stan and Elton, why not?

If someone wants to take the boat to distant waters because a group 
wants to sail somewhere, why not?  How about Maine in the Summer?  I 
know how to store it in Greenwich for a lot less than I know how to 
store it in Miami.

Everyone pitches in with their knowledge. Some people can provide some 
things, some can provide others.  We'll need all kinds of help to keep 
it rolling.  As long as people want to keep using it, and are willing to 
pay a modest use fee, we can afford to keep it.  The membership of the 
Syndicate can keep changing.  If it gets to be a pain, and no one is 
willing to do what has to be done, we sell it.

I think it could be a lot of fun, and good for everyone.  It appears 
that there are enough people who agree with me so that we can try it out.

You've got a lot of experience in outfitting boats for more than day 
sailing, and we'll be listening to all of your ideas.  Since we all own 
the boat, hopefully everyone will leave the boat a little better than it 
was when he or she got it.

We'll see.

Bill Effros



Chris Geankoplis wrote:

>Dear Bill,
>                Getting the boat to Miami would be no problem, I just
>thought that some of the guys might want to sail the Bahamas without making
>2 crossings.  No problem!
>Chris G
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 1:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Florida Syndicate
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>>Thanks, Chris,
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>>You're in.  You've got to get it back to Miami.  How long would such a
>>trip take?  What's the insurance deal?  The Conch Cruisers Bill
>>mentioned seem to be a group of MacGregor owners taking long cruises
>>together.  If you set something up for the Summer of 07 you might get a
>>group of people interested in taking their own boats with you on a
>>cruise they would never take by themselves.
>>
>>Bill Effros
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>>Chris Geankoplis wrote:
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>>>Hey yoos guys,
>>>                       Did somebody say Syndicate?  Back in Napoli we
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>>>couple of syndicates 'till Guido went up da river.  So you can count me
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>>>I will commit to the rental time even if I can't use it till next summer.
>>>It would be my intention to sail the boat over to the Bahamas for a
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>>>the boat to prepare it for the trip in the summer of 2007.  If anybody
>>>wanted to pick up the boat at the end of my "charter" in the Bahamas that
>>>might work out well also.
>>>
>>>Chris G
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>>>To: "R22 List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:12 AM
>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florida Syndicate
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>>>>Is there is, or is there ain't a real interest in putting together a
>>>>Florida Syndicate for Brad's boat?
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>>>>The idea is to fix up a boat so it's both sailable and saleable, and
>>>>leave it in Miami for use by Syndicate members.  The boat would rent out
>>>>for roughly $250 a week--syndicate members get first choice on dates,
>>>>others could rent on an as-available basis.  People who want to see or
>>>>try a Rhodes-22 could be directed to the Syndicate boat, and could rent
>>>>it if available.
>>>>
>>>>If not enough people continue to rent the boat over the years, and it
>>>>doesn't cover its nut, or just becomes a pain, the Syndicate sells the
>>>>boat and splits the profit.  Syndicate members have first shot at buying
>>>>the boat.
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>>>>Brad already has $1250 in this deal.  I said I was good for $500 worth
>>>>of rental.  Is anyone else seriously interested?
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>>>>You can become a syndicate member by committing to a minimum of 1 week
>>>>of rental time, paid in advance..
>>>>
>>>>Brad is slightly over committed.  He's in the air right now, trying to
>>>>earn enough money to finance all the adventures he gets himself into.  I
>>>>told him I would try to sort out the Syndicate deal for him before he
>>>>returns from his current trip.  If too few people are interested, I
>>>>suspect the boat will be parted out.  Brad wants the IMF.  The hull is
>>>>probably worth more to Stan than to anyone else.  Bud did legwork, he's
>>>>entitled to first shot at remaining parts.  If anyone else has an
>>>>interest in parts, please post the interest to the list, along with how
>>>>much the parts are worth to you.
>>>>
>>>>It's time to either fish or cut bait.  Please let us all know, on-list,
>>>>where you stand so we can sort this out.
>>>>
>>>>Here are Bud's boat Pictures:
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>>>>Bill Effros
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