[Rhodes22-list] Blue Water Boats

brad haslett flybrad at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 6 13:20:30 EST 2005


Mark,

It took some research but I finally found the Panda, 
made by Tashing.  I love all the Chinese boats,
Tashing, Choey Lee, Tayana (my wife would argue about
whether they are really Chinese but we'll leave that
issue alone).  Frankly, for me, all that wood looks
like a lot of work but my friend is a woodworker and
that would be right up his alley.  We bought this
building together with the idea that he'd spend more
time in the area and on my boat.  Since he got
arrested for public intoxication jogging back to my
boat the second day there, he wants to use the
facilities to for a restoration project and tell the
rest of society (including the local gestapo) to F/O. 
He's 55, no kids, comfortable nest egg, no obligations
except maybe a sweetheart in China, he's ready to
cruise.  Bastard!

Brad


--- Mark Kaynor <mark at kaynor.org> wrote:

> Brad,
> 
> Back when we were looking, we went to Ft. Lauderdale
> - there are always a
> ton of boats for sale down there. Before we found
> Rachel, we fell in love
> with a Panda 38 we saw. It was an "ugly duckling"
> but it was beautiful. We
> went back to see it twice before we left. Bob Quinn
> gave us the name of a
> surveyor in Ft. Pierce and we had him go down and
> take a quick look - not a
> full survey - we just wanted to know if there was
> anything really wrong with
> it. Turned out the mast step was cracked, all the
> standing rigging needed to
> be replaced, it needed all new sails, had wooden
> decks w/ some water
> intrusion, and there were several other things wrong
> with it, too. Then we
> found Rachel and decided to go with the Tayana - in
> part because we wanted
> to go sailing, not spend another year or two and a
> bunch more "boat bucks"
> getting ready - and because the Tayana has that
> "classic" look we love. I
> still think about that Panda sometimes, though.
> 
> Below is a short email from another Tayana 37 owner
> discussing his
> experience with an Island Packet 38. This guy is
> sort of the Tayana list's
> "resident Roger" <g>. 
> 
> Mark
> 
> -------------------
> 
> Just my impression from two long passages in nearly
> new IP38s from Cape May
> to halfway to Bermuda and then toward Norfolk.... 
> Both IP38s seemed to me
> to be 'lifeless'  - no helm feedback (rack and
> pinion), poorly arranged and
> under strength deck hardwa re and running gear,
> staysail was very small (I
> did like the hoyt boom).  When I was on the helm I
> had to steer more by
> eyeball than feel or helm pressure.  Both boats had
> poorly tuned rigging so
> I cant offer much about what it would be like on a
> proper ly tuned IP rig.
> These trips were before I had interest in a Ty37 but
> convinced me that an IP
> was NOT to be included in my 'wish list'.  I
> realized that were set up as
> the typical 'cruiser's boat' but I do remember that
> nothing excited me about
> these b oats .... just a ho-hum experience. 
> Inside they were OK.  Other than an hourly
> maintenance tour when at sea (my
> routine) I didnt get deeply into the 'mechanicals'
> nor structurals but I saw
> nothing that stood out as 'bad'.  We did catch a
> near-gale nearing the
> entrance to Ches and I was su rprised at the
> pounding of the bow and extreme
> hobby-horsing into dead-on high chop (and the 'ends'
> were not loaded), I
> would have expected a smoother action from such a
> hull form ... and then a
> lot of hardware (winches, etc.) started breaking,
> etc.  
> 
> 
> 
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