[Rhodes22-list] Nuclear Energy Replies

[Rob Lowe]

Hank,
I can sort of see that re-reading the post.  Guess it wasn't that clear to
me first time.  Sorry! - Rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hank" <hnw555 at gmail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nuclear Energy Replies


> Rob,
>
> Read Roger's e-mail a little closer.  This was not done by the two
> administrations.  This was done during the Clinton administration with
> Carter working as an ambassador or emmissary.  The two of them worked
> together to develop this.
>
> Hank
>
>
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:14:07 -0500, Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
> > Gee Roger, do I detect a bit of partaininship in your response?  I seem
to
> > remember there were two presidents between Carter and Clinton, namely
Reagan
> > and Bush the first.  I seem to recall them being part of the appeasement
> > process too.
> >
> > Rob Lowe
> > S/V Getaway
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nuclear Energy Replies
> >
> > > Ed,
> > >
> > > Boy, scary stuff!  It's starting to sound more and more like my
fearless
> > > prediction from late September, 2004 about an Israeli military strike
on
> > the
> > > Iranian nuclear industry is going to come true.  It's currently late
> > > February, 2005 and my original prediction said it would happen within
a
> > > year, or by late September, 2005.  I'll stand by my original timing.
> > >
> > > Israel absolutely cannot tolerate an Iran with nuclear weapons.  It's
a
> > life
> > > or death issue for them.
> > >
> > > Fortunately, Israel does not have Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter
> > negotiating
> > > "on their behalf" like the United States did in 1994 with North Korea.
I
> > > still can't believe Carter won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1994 for that
> > craven
> > > piece of appeasement.  Now, North Korea has nuclear weapons using the
> > > "peaceful" nuclear power reactors that Carter & Clinton gave them as
part
> > of
> > > that deal.  Gee, a tyranical communist dictator went back on his word
and
> > > treaty obligations and started building nuclear weapons about 10
minutes
> > > after the ink was dry on the 1994 agreement.  Who would have ever
expected
> > > that?  Clinton & Carter should be tried for high treason for setting
the
> > > world up for another 50 years of nuclear stand-off with a communist
> > > dictatorship.  That's a best-case scenario, if we're "lucky".  The
> > > worst-case scenarios get considerably scarier.
> > >
> > > Allow Iran to get nukes?  I don't think so!
> > >
> > > On a brighter note, I saw the 1st sign of spring today.  The 2005 West
> > > Marine and Defender Marine Master Catalogs arrived via the US Snail
Mail!
> > > Can ice breakup be far behind?
> > >
> > > 2000 mockingbirds = two kilomockingbirds  cute! :)
> > >
> > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:02 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Nuclear Energy Replies
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Roger:
> > > > You will not convince Bill or his fellow travelers of what you are
> > > > saying. Iran and for that matter, Syria are just trying to help
their
> > > people
> > > > to better lives.  And what was that message the Israelis let slip in
> > > > international circles in the last couple of days?  That they can not
> > wait
> > > > for the Europeans to resolve the issue.  I guess we all better sail
> > while
> > > we
> > > > can, it is liable to get messy over their.
> > > >
> > > > Some recent info:
> > > >
> > >
> >
www.islamonline.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_
> > > > id=6795
> > > >
> > > > (page down to nuclear discussion) http://billroggio.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id
> > > > =7062
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
www.aljazeera.com/cgi-in/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_ID=
> > > > 6945
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ed K
> > > > Greenville, SC, USA
> > > > Addendum:  2000 mockingbirds = two kilomockingbirds
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Steve
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:14 AM
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Nuclear Energy
> > > >
> > > > Well said, Roger.
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > > > Bill,
> > > > >
> > > > > You have to wonder why they want it.  Iran is
> > > > > sitting on proven reserves of
> > > > > about 1 trillion barrels of crude oil as well as
> > > > > copious quantities of
> > > > > natural gas.  The country has excellent warm water,
> > > > > ice-free port facilities
> > > > > to ship their crude oil and natural gas.  They have
> > > > > a pretty good
> > > > > intra-country pipeline and refinery infrastructure.
> > > > > They have zero reserves
> > > > > of uranium.  At the present rate of energy
> > > > > production & given Iran's current
> > > > > population, GDP, & growth rate, their proven fossil
> > > > > fuel reserves will
> > > > > supply all their internal energy and export needs
> > > > > for the next 50-75 years,
> > > > > even if the country gets heavily into manufacturing
> > > > > petrochemicals like
> > > > > polyethylene, polypropylene, nylon, etc.  That's
> > > > > enough time to build and
> > > > > use up at least 1 generation of nuclear power plants
> > > > > before they are even
> > > > > necessary.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gee, do you think maybe, just maybe, Iran has an
> > > > > alternate agenda here?
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
> > > > > To: "R22 List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:52 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Nucular Energy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Been meaning to ask.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How 'bout that Iran?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do they get to have nuclear energy, too?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or is it only safe enough for us?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill Effros
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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