[Rhodes22-list] How bad is some water in the laz?

[P&M Beals]

Have followed the cockpit full of water business ...
Last summer, my first with our 1986 R-22 I don't recall any water in the laz
accumulating.  this summer we have some after the rains...never more than a
couple inches at most. a quick bailing of a gallon at most and we are good
to go.
Is this going to cause a problem long-term?
The bilge has been getting some too, but the bilge pump is doing what it
should.
I  haven't been very concerned. Is this stupid?

Phyllis
Whisper/Keyport

> From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:06:17 -0700 (PDT)
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boat full of water, please help
> 
> Forgive me for taking issue with the experts on the
> list, but this is my experience.  Long term water
> infiltration on a boat is a bad thing, BUT,  an
> overnight soaking is not unsurvivable.  You didn't
> take on that much water from leaks from the ports,
> etc.  What you have is a cockpit water collection
> problem.  Look at the aft cockpit scuppers, especially
> the hoses that run from the scuppers (drains) to the
> stern drains.  If there is a leak in the hose that
> connects the two, it will drain directly into the
> bilge (well maybe not directly but it finds a way).
> The R-22 has a huge cockpit given the overall size of
> the boat, and is a very large area for collection of
> rain.  MJM is correct to some degree, if this has been
> a long term problem, scrap the boat.  If this is a one
> time event, or an infrequent event, no foul - no harm!
> Drips add up, and time claims all souls.  It doesn't
> sound like you're a client for a new boat from Stan,
> but that doesn't mean your labor of love is hopeless.
> Your mileage may vary.  Plastic doesn't rust and
> classic boats never go out of style.  Wood will rot
> but they still grow the stuff! Sailing is like
> running, dare I say sex, do it at your own pace.
> 
> Brad
> 
> --- michael meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> 
>> Subjection: Donate what you have for a tax writeoff
>> and get a boat that
>> can be sailed today, you are going to quickly hate
>> sailing the way you
>> are going. Working on a boat is more than being
>> handly. It safe for me
>> to say, your port are leaking, the chain plate are
>> leaking.  the boat is
>> not sitting on it line so water is not run off of it
>> right. The  boat
>> has changed shape from  everything taken out and
>> pruessure points(and
>> you do not know the right lines). the bedding is
>> shot for all the
>> hardware. hoose are cracked and so on. You picked
>> the wrong "first
>> boat". -mjm
>> 
>> 
>> sugargroveumc at bright.net wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> I need help. As some of you know I am restoring a
>> 1976 Rhodes 22. I have only been at it for a few
>> weeks. When I began I knew nothing about boat
>> construction and I still know very little.
>>> Before we owned the boat it had been sitting on the
>> trailer in the boat yard for three years untouched.
>>> At this point all of the decorative teak and some
>> of the structural teak has been removed, the lining
>> has been removed from the walls, the hull is gutted,
>> and I cut out all four of the rotted stringers as
>> well as the one rotting bulkhead. Everything else
>> has been removed as well. There is nothing in the
>> cabin but the foam and the front bulkhead.
>>> I say all this because it rained at our house last
>> night and I wanted to experiment a little bit. I put
>> the hatch up and closed the pop top making it as
>> tight as I could. However, I did not put the tarp
>> over it. I wanted to see if water would get in.
>>> It did
>>> I awoke this morning to find a good three inches of
>> water in the lowest portion of the boat around the
>> keel and center board housing.
>>> There is no weather stripping, and the windows may
>> need to be re sealed but they did not show signs of
>> moisture. The port side drain in the gunnels was
>> clogged so I assume that water backup and went in
>> through the opening where the centerboard drop line
>> runs. There is a hose there with fittings but it may
>> be leaky. 
>>> I feel that I can not progress in the restoration
>> process until I find out where the water is coming
>> form.
>>> Does any one have any other suggestions?
>>> Alan 
>>> 
>>> 
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