[Rhodes22-list] mast raising procedures

[Rik Sandberg]

Slim,

That would be bail :-) :-)

Rik

-----Original Message-----
From: Slim <salm at mn.rr.com>
Sent: Jun 11, 2005 3:58 AM
To: Rhodes <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] mast raising procedures

Bale or bail or behl or bayl...can I get a ruling on this?

On 6/11/05 3:45 AM, "Slim" <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:

>> Ah ha!  There must be many versions of this equipment.
> 
> That's exactly right, Peter, and it's the reason why Bill and I and others
> have had difficulty coming up with a standardized procedure.  For ex, IIRC
> Rob Lowe uses his trailer winch instead of the GB crane.  Others lower the
> mast to the bow.  Your hand rail lines are something from the past although
> I don't know how far back.  Fandango is a 1990 and it came with the 8"
> extensions that are just a piece of aluminum with holes on each end--one for
> the turnbuckle and one for the chain plate.  But I've also seen an 8" length
> of chain used for the extensions.  The newer boats have a "bail" or "bale"
> (?) about six feet up the mast that's used to hook a line onto the crane
> instead of the shrouds.  That's better/faster still.
> 
> Slim
> 
> 
> 
> Raven does not have
>> 8" extensions, but she does have a mast stabilizing triangulation device,
>> basically two lines with clips, which are set on an extention of the mast
>> bolt line on the grab rails and extend up the mast about 6' on each side.
>> Since the triangulation in on the pivot line, they don't loosen as the mast
>> goes up.  However, they do add extra steps, to install and remove them.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> I still have the feeling I may be missing something.  What year is Fandango?
>> 
>> PT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Slim" <salm at mn.rr.com>
>> To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] mast raising procedures
>> 
>> 
>>> Peter,
>>> 
>>> The forward lowers should have the 8" extensions added and then connected
>> to
>>> their chain plates.  These help to prevent side sway in the mast as it's
>>> going up (or down)  As the mast gets higher, the upper shrouds take over
>> to
>>> prevent the sway.  Both uppers and forward lowers combine to prevent the
>>> sway.  That leaves the aft lowers available to hook up to the crane.
>>> 
>>> I can see where your method (using the forward lowers to the crane) would
>>> certainly save some time, but it's not as safe.  I usually do this
>> procedure
>>> on the water, so any waves or rocking the boat would cause the mast to
>> sway
>>> from side to side, so I need to use the four shrouds to prevent that.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> Slim
>>> 
>>> On 6/10/05 4:37 PM, "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Slim and Bill,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for posting the mast procedures again.  Now that I've tried it a
>> few
>>>> times, it makes a lot more sense and the reading is certainly a little
>> more
>>>> interesting.  However I was surprised to read the part about connecting
>> the
>>>> *aft* lowers to the mast crane.
>>>> 
>>>> Raven doesn't seem to be set up that way.  On Raven, the forward lowers
>> have
>>>> fast-pins and all the other turnbuckles are fixed with ring-dings.  So,
>> I
>>>> connected the forward lowers to the crane and everything worked just
>> fine -
>>>> it's actually less work than you both describe.  The fast-pins speed the
>>>> connection from the crane hoist to the chainplates a little bit too.
>> When I
>>>> checked the rig tension with the Loos gauge everything was within specs,
>>>> except the forward lowers needed a little tightening as one might
>> expect.
>>>> 
>>>> I know I'm pretty lucky that Mark and the other previous owners took
>> such
>>>> thought and care in setting up Raven quite nicely.  But I still wonder
>> if I'm
>>>> missing something:  why do the instructions call for connecting the
>> *aft*
>>>> lowers to the crane?  To paraphrase Rumsfeld "I don't know what I don't
>> know".
>>>> Does it make a difference which lowers you use?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> PT
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