[Rhodes22-list] Variations on a Theme
Todd Tavares
sprocket80 at mail.com
Sat Jun 11 15:37:32 EDT 2005
Bill,
Another aspect Stan has to consider is that many parts are custom made and he had them made in quantity so long ago that the original vendors are not around any longer. The 2 1/2" wide gudgeons....and I believe the traveller cars are a couple of examples.
If Stan sells parts that he needs, it may prevent or delay him from finishing a recycled boat.
Todd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Variations on a Theme
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:38:05 -0400
>
> Todd,
>
> I'd like to go back to the beginning and get every change we can
> find. No, I don't have time for it now, but I think it would be a
> lot of fun, and we could all learn something in the process. We
> can discuss why the changes were made, and whether they were an
> improvement from a user point of view.
>
> There are big improvements made on later boats that all earlier
> owners would want if they knew to ask. Left to his own devices,
> Stan would give everything away, so he has no incentive to market
> these things except on new or recycled boats. We have to price his
> innovations fairly so it pays for him to manufacture them in larger
> quantities, lower his cost, and make some money at the same time.
>
> How much was that inner IMF bearing worth to me? $1000? My IMF
> couldn't be reassembled without it. What were the assembly
> instructions worth? $250? Stan, of course, sent it all for free a
> few days after I asked. His attitude is that it shouldn't have
> broken in the first place. Fine, but it took him time and effort,
> and I would willingly have paid for it. If I had done so, it would
> have been good for all of us, because then Stan would have more of
> a reason to help every existing owner.
>
> The 8" aluminum extenders for the mast raising system can be added
> to many existing systems. They are perfect for the purpose, light
> in weight, and add safety to an inherently dangerous task. I
> always keep them on board, right where I would know to look for
> them the 363 days a year when I don't need them.
>
> The list could operate its own store if Stan doesn't have the time
> for this. Stan could still make money on it, without any
> additional hassle. Again--good for everyone.
>
> During the winter months I will follow up on this if I don't go to
> the Keys, or someone else doesn't pick up on it first.
>
> Bill Effros
>
> Todd Tavares wrote:
>
> > Bill,
> > How far back do you plan to go listing changes? Will any a
> > every known change be covered? There were several major
> > noticeable ch anges made between about 1974 and 1980 involving
> > the c/b pivot and
> > removal front cabin port stay atachment brackets ch
> > cockpit floor round access hatch disco changed twice, and the
> > rudderhead design changed move on to newer boats with the IMF
> > and furler changes? :-) scratches the surface. Then there is
> > the cabin and interior chan I have pics of most of this. Are
> > you sure you have the time for this?
> > Boats magaz #7?) for sale on E-
> > [1]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebay
> > motors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=63730&item=4555320197
> > &rd=1
> >
> > Todd
> > [f2_1_b. ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Ef To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Variations on a Theme
> > Date: Sat, >
> > > Slim,
> > >
> > > N > chan > how th > changes ov > than some >
> > > The guy with the boat in CT mentioned > gooseneck of his
> > non-IMF boom which > Spitzer furler better than the CDI >
> > many times--the ones I have are just > lifting mechanism has
> > changed. The gudgeon > rudder clutch, and think it's the best
> > way > properly and you know how to use it.
> > &g > The block on my boom was never rigged properly from the
> > factory > and I've always had trouble with it--I'm going to
> > figure it out > this year. Now that I've taken apart my IMF,
> > and Stan told me how > to put it back together, it will work
> > better than ever before. I'm > going to add Stan's mast cleat.
> > >
> > > I just took out > Chlorinated fres > smell department. < > etc.
> > >
> > > Bill Effros
> > >
> > >
> > & > Slim wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Ah ha! There must be ma > >>
> > > >>
> > > > > That's exactly right, Peter, and it's the reason why Bi
> > and others
> > > > have had difficulty coming up with a stan ex, IIRC
> > > > Rob Lowe uses his trailer wi lower the
> > > > mast to the bow past although
> > > > I the 8"
> > &g each end > > the turnbuckle and one for the chain plate.
> > But I'v an 8" length
> > > > of chain used for the extensions. Th or "bale"
> > > > (?) about six feet up t the crane
> > > > instead of > >
> > > > Slim < > >
> > > >
> > > > Raven does not have > >
> > > >
> > > >> 8" extensions, but she does h triangulation device,
> > > >> basically tw of the mast
> > > > each si > >> Since the triangulation in on the pivot
> > line, they do as the mast
> > > >> goes up. However, they do add extr remove them.
> > > >> Thanks.
> > > > > >> I still have the feeling I may be missing something
> > is Fandango?
> > > >>
> > > >> PT
> > > &g > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >& > >> From: "Slim"
> > > >> To: "Rhodes"
> > > &g > >> Subject: Re: [ > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Peter,
> > > & > >>> The forward lowers should have the 8" ext then connected
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > >> to
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> mast as it > >>> going up (or down) As the mast gets
> > higher, the up take over
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> preve prevent the
> > > crane.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I can see where your met crane) would
> > > >>> cer this
> > > > > >>>
> > > >> procedure
> > > >&g > >>
> > > >>> on the water, so any waves or ro mast to
> > > >>>
> > > >& > >> sway
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > nt that.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hope this helps,
> > & > >>> Slim
> > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > >>> tried it > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >> few > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>> times, it ma a little
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> more
> > > >> > >>
> > > >>>> interesting. However I was su connecting
> > > >>>>
> > > > >> the
> > > >>
> > > >> > >>>> *aft* lowers to the mast crane.
> > > >&g > >>>> Raven doesn't seem to be set up that w forward lowers
> > > >>>>
> > > >> > >> have
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > &g ring-dings. So,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>> worked just
> > &g > >>>>
> > > >> fine -
> > > >>
> > > >>>> it's actually les speed the
> > > >>> bit too. > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >> When > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>> checked the within specs,
> > > > mi > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >> e > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>> I know owners took
> > > > > >>>>
> > > >> such
> > > > > >>
> > > >>>> thought and care in setti still wonder
> > > >>>>
> > > >> if I'm
> > > >>
> > > & > >>>> missing something: why do the instruction connecting the
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>&g > >> *aft*
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > wha > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>> D > >>>> > >>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>
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