[Rhodes22-list] Wally's reply- not on WMD-To BRAD

Sun Jun 19 10:21:50 EDT 2005

I used to tell people if you are not Infantry you are support.  When you
really look at it, that is what it is all about.  Everything is there to
support the Infantry.  Those guys take the brunt of everything.
By the way, the Air Force is not really a legal institution.  The Army and
the Navy were established under the Constitution of the United States.  The
Air Force was separated from the Army by Executive Order.  There really
should be a Constitutional Amendment.

Philip

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 9:16 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Wally's reply- not on WMD-To BRAD

Brad and Philip,

He ha ha sometimes ya just gotta chuckle.

"According to my Air Force (and Air Guard) acquaintances all pilots are
prima donnas who drain resources from the really important stuff.  That's
not true ;'0!"

I wonder, without those "prima donna" pilots, what would be the point of
doing all that "really important stuff"???

It's amazing somethimes how people are unable to uh .....connect the dots.

Rik
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Esteban <3drecon at comcast.net>
Sent: Jun 10, 2005 9:29 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Wally's reply- not on WMD-To BRAD

Brad,

    I'm not sure I want you to repeat it ;').  I have two boys and I have a
similar problem.  The oldest barely gets out of bed and the younger is
always on the computer designing games and consistantly makes the honour
roll at school.  Hopefully they will both find their sweet spot.  Recent
photos showed a huge cache of weapons captured and a bunch of high level
badies.  Hopefully that will slow them down a bit.  Keep in mind that 48%
(and at times higher) are Reserve and National Guard.  The Guard and Reserve
jokes have pretty much stopped.
   That said, the Air National Guard is not a bad choice, especially with
the school perks.  Most states waive tuition at state universities if you
are in the Guard.  With recruiting down there may be more incentives down
the road.
   Before I was mobilized my part time job was projectionist at the Fairfax
Square Theatres in Tyson's Corner.  I was the main projectionist there for
several years.  I don't know if the job will be there when I get back
though.
   According to my Air Force (and Air Guard) acquaintances all pilots are
prima donnas who drain resources from the really important stuff.  That's
not true ;'0!

Philip

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of brad haslett
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Wally's reply- not on WMD-To BRAD

Phillip,

Thanks for the "gouge".  He put in an application at
FedEx this week to work in the hub.  I can't do
anything to accelerate his hiring - if they find out
his dad is a crewmember it would probably be the kiss
of death - the company always blames us prima donnas
for everyone else not getting a raise.  We're in
contract negotiations right now so the same old BS is
flying.  Anyway, I think Alex's best bet would be to
get on here and then join the local Air National Guard
unit.  They just got C5's and are building a new
airport facility (we're getting their old one). I work
with a lot of the officers in the unit and could
provide some help there. He's already said he doesn't
want to get stuck on a boat.  His grandfather on his
mother's side is retired Army Special Forces.  He's
said much the same thing to him as you did about the
Army.  Unfortunately, I didn't do a very good job of
dividing up the work ethic and motivation between my
two sons.  The oldest I have to throttle back
constantly and the youngest seems to always need a
kick in the ass.  Right now the youngest is
discovering the joys of poverty and has finally
figured out he needs to do something.

If Alex can get on at the hub and in the Memphis Guard
it will be the best of both worlds.  FedEx will pay
for college as well as the Guard.  I promised to put
the equivalent amount in an IRA for him.  Of course at
19 he has no idea what an IRA is or why anyone would
want to put money away that couldn't be spent for 40
years.  The Memphis Guard has been getting activated
alot lately but mostly its trips to the desert and
back.  I met a guy in the bar at Tysons Corner outside
DC last night who's made some trips to/from Baghdad.
He said the airport was opening up to passenger
traffic this week but they're still using special
approach procedures.  There are a lot of SAMs out
there and still unaccounted for Stingers from
Afghanastan.  After seeing the photos and reading the
story of the DHL Airbus that took a missle through the
engine, I'm glad I don't fly there. My biggest worry
is making sure that when I get up in the middle of the
night to go pee, I'm really in the bathroom (long
story from before you arrived here that I don't want
to repeat.)

Brad

--- Philip Esteban <3drecon at comcast.net> wrote:

> Brad,
>     It is a good move to push the Air Force.  After
> 31 years of both USMC
> and US Army service, I would not counsel any young
> person to join the Army
> (the reasons are too long to go into here).  I do
> tell the kids if they are
> full of P*ss and Vinegar and want to Shoot, Move and
> Communicate, the USMC
> is their best prospect for training and esprit de
> corps, however; if they
> want a good tour, making the same money, in decent
> quarters and great
> training/education opportunities, the Air Force is
> the way to go.  The Navy
> is ok, but you spend a lot of time on "floats".  In
> the end, if you are
> injured or wounded, the Army tends to kick you to
> the kerb.  You can
> ultimately get treated but you have to fight for it.
>  The pat' answer is "go
> to the VA".
>
> Philip
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf
> Of brad haslett
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:50 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Wally's reply- not on
> WMD
>
>
> Wally,
>
> First, you need to be a bit more PC.  My 'boy' Ford?
> You would get a "nine" up your butt for saying that
> in
> this town.  Unfortunately, Ford Junior seems to be a
> nice kid and is on track to be our next Senator if
> not
> something bigger down the road. Bad timing for him.
> His father was a crook, his uncle is going to jail
> for
> being a crook,  but for the race card which will
> surely be played, just like it was for Harold,
> Senior.
>  I'm not quite sure why Jr. wants to leave his
> secure
> congressional seat for the Senate, but hey, it's his
> life.  The only Republican announced against him is
> that idiot that ran against Bredeson for governor.
>
> I do think Iraq is turning but it will be a "long
> row
> to hoe".  My youngest son is still on the verge of
> enlisting.  I'm pushing Navy and Air Force but we'll
> see.  This is where the "rubber meets the road"
> between your political beliefs and reality.
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> --- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Brad,
> >
> > My nephew emails me every month or so with updates
> > from Iraq. It does seem
> > we are making progress. In the end history will be
> > the judge.
> >
> > How about your boy Ford. It sure doesn't take much
> > to buy a TN politician.
> > :-0
> >
> > Wally
> >
> > >From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Wally's reply-  not
> on
> > WMD
> > >Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Wally,
> > >
> > >Yesterday I got the opportunity to "de-brief" a
> > >helicopter pilot just returned from Iraq.  I had
> a
> > >jumpseater on my flight from DC to Memphis who
> was
> > >meeting a former co-worker for a "meet&greet"
> with
> > our
> > >chief pilot to get on the short list for a pilot
> > job
> > >interview.  The jumpseater introduced me to his
> > friend
> > >who belonged to a Guard unit from NY that had
> been
> > >activated.  She was home on medical leave because
> > of a
> > >broken foot (not combat related).
> > >
> > >Here was her take on Iraq.  A lot of positive
> > progress
> > >is being made that isn't being reported by the
> MSM.
> > >The military is putting a great deal of efforts
> > >turning the Iraqi kids to our side, schools,
> soccer
> > >fields, etc.  She felt most of the adults were
> > happy
> > >we were there and more than happy that Saddam is
> > gone,
> > >but, many are wary and cautious after 30 years of
> > >oppression.  Insurgency is a huge problem and the
> > bad
> > >guys are difficult to identify because people are
> > >scared to turn them in, not that the average
> Iraqi
> > >supports the insurgents.  Here, we'd call the
> cops
> > if
> > >we thought our neighbor was engaged in illegal
> > >activity.  There, they and their family are
> killed
> > if
> > >they rat the bad guys out.  Most are not Iraqi's
> > but
> > >jihadists from other countries.  It will continue
> > to
> > >be a problem for some time.  She felt good about
> > her
> > >duty there and supported the war but expressed
> that
> > >morale was fading amongst the troops because of
> the
> > >long and extended deployments.  I asked her
> > >specifically what her take was on WMD and she
> gave
> > me
> > >this question and answer.  "Captain, haven't you
> > ever
> > >made a decision in the jet based on the
> information
> > >you had at the time and realized later there were
> > >other options? Bush made a decision on the intel
> he
> > >was given, the CIA and everybody got it wrong".
> > For
> > >the most part, she was upbeat and proud of her
> > service
> > >and thought she and her unit were having a
> positive
> > >impact.
> > >
> > >Some people don't support the war because they
> just
> > >don't like war.  Who does?  Most of the
> > non-supporters
> > >just hate W.  Regardless, we're stuck with this
> > thing
> > >and it would be a horrible tragedy for the Iraqi
> > >people for us to abandon them at this point.  We
> > did
> > >that once. We've had a huge military presence in
> > the
> > >Middle East and Europe for a long time and now
> > those
> > >assets will continue to move to Iraq. W is a
> > lameduck
> > >now and I've lost interest in the WMD issue, just
> > as I
> > >have with where Slick Willy went with his pecker.
> > No
> > >matter who the next President is (my current
> money
> > is
> > >on Hillary) we're in this for a good long while.
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ed,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for changing the sugject line but my
> post
> > was
> > > > not about "WMDs".
> > > > Perhaps you should have changed it to "Cuba is
> > not
>
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