[Rhodes22-list] backstay tension/traveler bar

[Bill Effros]

Did you look at the under side of the socket?



P&M Beals wrote:

>Thanks.  I have the single hole in the traveler bar but no hole in the
>sockets attached to the stays. That seems to be the problem, and strange
>that the socket wouldn't have that hole.
>Maybe I will contact Stan, and see if there is anything I can do to get
>sockets on the stays with the holes, or why the ones I have would be without
>the holes. Ours was a recycled boat by Stan a couple years ago, though I am
>not the owner who bought directly from Stan.
>
>Thanks for the feedback on the tension guage vs. strum method.  The cheapest
>tension gauge costs $48 and they go up from there.
>
>Phyllis
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>>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:04:28 -0400
>>To: sanderico at earthlink.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list
>><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] backstay tension/traveler bar
>>
>>Phyllis,
>>
>>Ditto.
>>
>>I set my shroud tension by ear and eye using the strum method.  If I
>>subsequently don't like the look or sound of it, I change the
>>turnbuckles until I like it.  I don't think there should be so much
>>tension on the system that you are in danger of yanking things out of
>>the boat--the pitch should not be too high.  Nor should it be so loose
>>that you can't get any sound out of the "strings".  Anything in between
>>is a matter of personal preference.  The very high pitched systems make
>>me nervous no matter whose boat they are on.
>>
>>I have 1 hole in my traveler bar, also.  You may have a single hole
>>also, if you look.  It does not go all the way through, and a simple pin
>>holds it in place because of all the tension on the shrouds.
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>Rik Sandberg wrote:
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>>>Phyllis
>>>
>>>My traveller bar had a small hole in the top of each end for a pin to
>>>go through the traveller bar and the sockets it fit into on the aft
>>>stays. I never had a problem with these coming out, although if you
>>>have no pins, I would see where you might. I would drill the traveller
>>>bar and it's sockets so you can put a retaining pin in there.
>>>
>>>I never used a loos gauge to set my rigging. I just set it tight
>>>enough so it would just start to make a low tone when I strummed it.
>>>This gave me just a little slack in the lee shrouds when going to
>>>weather. This probably wasn't the "proper" way to do this, but it
>>>worked just fine for me.
>>>
>>>Your wire is 1/8 inch. The right loos guage would be the 3/32nds to
>>>5/32nds version.
>>>
>>>Rik
>>>
>>>P&M Beals wrote:
>>>
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>>>>Looking  back at the Rhodes 22 instruction booklet, the FAQ on the
>>>>Rhodes 22
>>>>site, I read that the backstay tension is the  thing that keeps the
>>>>traveler
>>>>bar in place, is that correct?   On our boat it seems to be the case
>>>>even
>>>>though the traveler bar has a small hole at each end, and one would
>>>>think
>>>>the piece on the backstay into which the bar fits might have a hole
>>>>as well,
>>>>so you could insert a clevis pin?? but clearly there isn't any such
>>>>hole to
>>>>receive a clevis pin...
>>>>
>>>>so it comes down to the backstay tension being tight enough to keep that
>>>>traveler bar securely in place....
>>>>
>>>>Please advise me if this is correct.
>>>>
>>>>Last evening with 12-15 mph winds we jibed, the boom swung over hard
>>>>and the
>>>>traveler bar came loose, knocking my husband across the head...while
>>>>he did
>>>>not feel OK as we were feebly asking "Are you OK?" he has recovered fine
>>>>with one Advil...
>>>>
>>>>This brings me to my second question regarding Loos tension gauges...
>>>>I read a piece in the FAQ on those by Roger...do most of you check the
>>>>tension of your stays at the beginning of the season?
>>>>
>>>>How do I know which Loos guage to get? Is the size of the stay wire the
>>>>measurement that I find in the West Marine catalog?
>>>>3/32"- 5/32"
>>>>
>>>>3/16"-9/32"
>>>>
>>>>1/4"-3/8"
>>>>
>>>>these are some of the choices, also regular vs. pro.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for any help...while Mike has recovered fine from the blow, I
>>>>don't
>>>>want to sail with any guests on board until I get this figured
>>>>out...nor to
>>>>sail in any but the lightest winds.  For beginners I guess we have to
>>>>just
>>>>tighten up the backstay as much as possible?  We thought we had it
>>>>pretty
>>>>snug a month ago.
>>>>
>>>>Phyllis
>>>>Whisper 
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