[Rhodes22-list] Materials Rebuilding the rudder head

[Chris Geankoplis]

Regarding HDPE, UHMWPC, VHMW, LDPE, AND VIRGIN PTFE, all I can say is AAARGH
MATEY! And thanks!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
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Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:34 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Materials Rebuilding the rudder head



Todd:
Thank you for the McMaster site.  It gives the definitions of HDPE
that Chris mentions and UHMWPE that you mentioned.  It also defines VHMW,
LDPE and Virgin PTFE.
Ah, for the days of wood, but even that is now EWF.  And you guys
have not discussed foamed wood composites and MDF.

Ed K

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Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:39 PM
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Chris,

    Get UHMWPE from www.mcmaster.com.  Read the descriptions-but I am sure
that the only plastics that are UV resistant are black.

Todd

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rebuilding the rudder head
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 22:41:51 -0700


 Bob & Robert,

 Oh for sure I will use up a number of cards in my digital.  I'm not too
 worried about the supply and water thing, it can't be much worse that the
 Bahamas Out Islands 10 years ago.  The nice thing about the Rhodes is I can
 carry all kinds of goodies (but no cold cerveza):(.    The problem is not
 with the actual rudder but rather the two fixed plates on either side of
the
 rudder that the tiller fits between.  I'll also check with a local suplier
 of HDPE  (that is high density polyethelyne ?)  If they have it, perhaps
 I'll just cut it myself and not worry about it getting here in time.  If
 not, I'll give your guys a try.  Thanks agin for the help.

 Chris G
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com
 To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:14 AM
 Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rebuilding the rudder head


  Chris, First of all I want to hear all about Baha when you get back.  That
  is one of about 4 places I want to visit before I give up the luxery of a
  trailerable boat.  The others are the Keys and lake Dillon in Co.
 Secondly,
  there is a Mac owner at my marina who just got a new rudder blade custom
 cut
  last year.  He said it was not too expensive especiallly for a made to
 order
  blade. I contacted him for you and got the information.  The material is
  stronger than starboard but lighter than fibre glass.  You send them the
  template and they trace it one one table and it gets cut on another is my
  understanding.

  Hey Bob,
  Its www.idasailor.com - they sell replacement parts made out of HDPE
  plastic for many models.  I don't know if they have a blade for a Rhodes
  yet, but Joel Santarone is very good about wanting to add and expand his
  line.  If your friend coordinates with Joel, maybe they can work
  something out.  See the 'cc' above for the IdaSailor Marine e-mail
  address.

  Hope it helps, don't forget to record your experience of Baha. I read one
  book about a couple who used Baha as a proving ground before they set off
  across the Pacific.  The one thing I remember from their accounts is that
  supplies are hard to get in the Mexican ports.  Apperantly "Mañana" means
  some time mabey tomarrow more likely a wieek or so.  Water is also a
  commodity down there.

  Bob Weber
  Odyssey Sailing School


  From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net
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  Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rebuilding the rudder head
  Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:27:25 -0700

  On my 2 page to do list I've gotten down to "replace the rudder head".  I
  did this on my other Rhodes many years ago using marine grade 3/4 inch
  mahogany plywood laminated together.  It worked, but was a bit bulky.  My
  current boat has grey 3/8 plastic "cheeks" but I am not confident that
  there
  hasn't been some deterioration over the last 20 years.  Since I am
 planning
  to have the boat in the Baja for 6 weeks I don't want it to fail down
  there.
  Any Idea of either the type of plastic that would be ok to use (after all
  the original lasted 20 years) or would 1/4-3/8 plate aluminum be either
 too
  heavy or the problem of electrolysis with the SS fittings too much of a
  headache?  Any other Ideas?  I know some of you guys have done this so if
 I
  can learn from someone else's mistakes rather than my own that would be a
  good thing.

  Chris Geankoplis
  SV (oh-I-don't-know-my-wife-wants-to-change-the-
  -boat's-name)
  Medford OR



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