[Rhodes22-list] Cheryl what did you get?

Steve Alm salm at mn.rr.com
Thu May 19 16:11:00 EDT 2005


Well, at least his wife was committed.  I can still hear Lady Bird saying,
"Beautify America.  Plant a tree, a shrub or a bush."  8-)
Sorry, I know that doesn't help much.  8-)
Slim

On 5/19/05 3:02 PM, "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Slim
> LBJ did not commit fully to the war.  We had the
> firepower to wipe that country off the planet.  That's
> why the solders got killed and why Jane Fonda is
> blamed for helping kill all those solders.  It was
> people like her causing a policial antiwar stir & LBJ
> plain lack of brains that keep all our Generals hands
> tied.  
> Steve
> 
> --- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>> So you're saying the problem was that MORE people
>> weren't killed?  50,000 +
>> dead isn't a commitment?
>> 
>> On 5/19/05 2:37 PM, "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> LBJ only problem was he didn't have the balls to
>>> commit fully to the war.  When there is a war, you
>> get
>>> behind it, support it, and go all out to win at
>> any
>>> cost.  Fonda is just another one of those bleeding
>>> hearth liberal and has to much money and not any
>>> scents.  
>>> 
>>> It a good thing she wasn't able to do something
>> like
>>> that durning WWII; Paton would have had her
>> shot:-)
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> OK, Steve, let's give credit where it's due:  LBJ
>>>> worked a lot harder and
>>>> was much more successful at getting many more of
>> our
>>>> soldiers killed than
>>>> Fonda.
>>>> Slim
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/19/05 2:17 PM, "Steve"
>> <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>> I just don't know why anyone would make fun of
>>>> Jane
>>>>> Fonda:-)  She work her heart out at getting our
>>>>> soldiers killed!!!!!!!!! You got to give credit
>>>> where
>>>>> credit is due:-)
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --- Cheryl O'Grady <cheryl.ogrady at mail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I love when people express their opinions
>> openly,
>>>>>> and it generates discussion.  I probably jump
>> in
>>>>>> with both feet TOO often, and end up with said
>>>> feet
>>>>>> in mouth.  but I have gotten several messages
>>>> from
>>>>>> someone I don't know.  The first time, I just
>>>> pretty
>>>>>> much ignored it, other than sending back a "who
>>>> are
>>>>>> you" note.  then, I don't know why, but I
>>>> identified
>>>>>> him from an old R-22 list note.  I went back in
>>>> my
>>>>>> old mail, couldn't find him, but I am pretty
>> sure
>>>>>> that it was related to one of our boat search
>>>>>> messaages.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It was clearly not spam, and I did send back a
>>>>>> not-so-friendly reply.  I do have some rather
>>>>>> out-in-left-field ideas, and I objected to his
>>>>>> demonization of Jane Fonda.  I will forward the
>>>>>> message on to you, maybe you are familiar with
>>>> the
>>>>>> guy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What I objected to was not that there were
>>>> political
>>>>>> conversations on the list, I haven't really
>> seen
>>>> too
>>>>>> many, but that he is sending me email
>> separately
>>>> and
>>>>>> including my e-address in notes that go to the
>>>>>> world.  I would personally put up any of my
>>>> opinions
>>>>>> I wanted to share on the list, not go off list,
>>>> and
>>>>>> not use the list for any other purposes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
>>>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Cheryl what did
>> you
>>>>>> get?
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:53:34 -0400
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheryl,
>>>>>>> Would you elaborate?  What did you get in the
>>>> way
>>>>>> of political
>>>>>>> screed??
>>>>>>> Maybe you and Mark are not on the same page?
>> I
>>>>>> have not seen much
>>>>>>> overtly political on the list lately.
>>>>>>> I run two sets of filters to stop spam and
>> when
>>>>>> some gets your
>>>>>>> direct email address, no matter how, they can
>>>>>> devise email spams to get by
>>>>>>> them.  I am now occasionally getting funky
>> stuff
>>>>>> from Germany.
>>>>>>> Again, what happened?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ed K
>>>>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>>> Political Addendum:
>>>>>>> Killing the human spirit
>>>>>>> What do I mean by the return of the spirit [to
>>>>>> the workplace].
>>>>>>> First, let me quote Ayn Rand about spirit:
>> "The
>>>>>> quickest way to kill the
>>>>>>> human spirit is to ask someone to do mediocre
>>>>>> work."
>>>>>>> When business and government were asking
>> people
>>>>>> not to do their
>>>>>>> best, they were telling the workers, in
>> essence,
>>>>>> to lie to their customers.
>>>>>>> Even though the workers knew they could have
>>>> done
>>>>>> better, they weren't
>>>>>>> supposed to. Because the old paradigm preached
>>>>>> that to do it right the first
>>>>>>> time cost too much.
>>>>>>> The cost that was never build into that
>>>> statement
>>>>>> was the cost of
>>>>>>> the workers' integrity. Not doing your best
>> but
>>>>>> presenting it as your best
>>>>>>> is a lie. And lying corrupts the soul.
>>>>>>> Joel Arthur Barker, Paradigms: The Business of
>>>>>> Discovering the
>>>>>>> Future. (New York: HarperCollins Publishers),
>>>> 1993
>>>>>> (1992), p. 137.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil
>> is
>>>>>> that good men do nothing."  Edmund Burke, Irish
>>>>>> philosopher
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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