[Rhodes22-list] Internet from your boat?

Michael Meltzer mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Tue May 24 02:17:21 EDT 2005


overworked, but doing good, did the Newport boat show this weekend, it was cold on Saturday my Nina had a lousy ride home(throw up 6 
times in 3 hour ride, poor thing, stomach bug). but the boat ready to be lunched this weekend.

MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Internet from your boat?


> Let him hang!
>
> Good to see your initials.  How've you been?
>
> Bill Effros
>
> Michael Meltzer wrote:
>
>> this guy is really clueless, 7 message and he never reads the replys, OK, I make a deal, if 3 people say "mjm get this smuck off 
>> the hook", I waste my time dealing with it and delist him, I guess the other message of let him hang is also valid :-)
>>
>> MJM
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "felix fig" <felix70037 at yahoo.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 2:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Internet from your boat?
>>
>>
>>> can some take me off the mailing list
>>>
>>> --- Robert  Quinn <rjquinn at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Raz:  Right off hand I do not have the speed but it
>>>> is set at a data rate.
>>>> I'll hook it up tonight if I have time and get the
>>>> speed.
>>>>
>>>> Mark may have it at his finger tips as he is a bit
>>>> more "techie" than I.
>>>> {:>)
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "raz" <razsail at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Internet from your
>>>> boat?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you have an idea of the bandwidth (baud)?  Is it
>>>> noticeably faster
>>>> than dialup (58K)?
>>>> raz
>>>>
>>>> On 5/23/05, Robert  Quinn <rjquinn at bellsouth.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Kathy and I have been using the Verizon wireless
>>>> card for the last 18
>>>> > months
>>>> > with good success.  Yes, there are spots where
>>>> your reception will not be
>>>> > satisfactory but that is true of most cell phones
>>>> as well.  We find that
>>>> > if
>>>> > it is not critical, we will wait until we move to
>>>> connect again.  If it is
>>>> > critical, we'll move to a location where we can
>>>> receive and transmit with
>>>> > not problems.
>>>> >
>>>> > Bob and Kathy on the "NoKaOi" and the Lazy Daze RV
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Mark Kaynor" <mkaynor at gmail.com>
>>>> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 11:50 AM
>>>> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Internet from your
>>>> boat?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Brad,
>>>> >
>>>> > The card that plugs into your computer is assigned
>>>> it's own phone number,
>>>> > so
>>>> > two cell phones would be redundant. We looked into
>>>> satellite and decided
>>>> > it
>>>> > was too expensive and too slow - on top of the
>>>> equipment costs, they
>>>> > charge
>>>> > by the minute and we're online all day for work.
>>>> We looked at
>>>> > Winlink/Winmail - this still remains a viable
>>>> email-only, offshore option
>>>> > as
>>>> > we're both general-level hams, but we didn't want
>>>> to spend the $1000 on a
>>>> > Pactor modem until we really need it - the
>>>> available technology changes so
>>>> > quickly. I read that the WinMail guys are actually
>>>> working on using the
>>>> > PC's
>>>> > speaker circuitry instead of a Pactor - that'd get
>>>> the in-the-door cost
>>>> > down.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sprint also offers wireless Internet service as do
>>>> most of the other
>>>> > players
>>>> > these days - if they're signal is better in the
>>>> area your friend expects
>>>> > to
>>>> > use it I'd suggest checking them out.
>>>> >
>>>> > We live 4.5 hours from the boat, so the only way
>>>> we get to spend much time
>>>> > on her is to work while we're here.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mark
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of brad haslett
>>>> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 11:33 AM
>>>> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Internet from your
>>>> boat?
>>>> >
>>>> > Mark & Bill
>>>> >
>>>> > I took a look at the Verizon site and that may
>>>> just be the ticket!  Last
>>>> > year a buddy went with me on a trip to the lake
>>>> and he lost his Verizon
>>>> > signal most of the way and had spotty coverage
>>>> while on the lake while my
>>>> > Cingular performed flawlessly.  However, I'm going
>>>> to "borrow" his phone
>>>> > and
>>>> > see if the coverage has improved.  We had Sprint
>>>> for two years and it
>>>> > worked
>>>> > OK provided you climbed half-way up a transmitter
>>>> tower, wrapped your head
>>>> > in aluminum foil, and stuck your arms out like Mr.
>>>> Bean.
>>>> >
>>>> > The existing marine satellite systems rely on
>>>> gyro-stabalized attennas,
>>>> > are
>>>> > quite expensive and bulky.  But for most of us,
>>>> cell phone coverage would
>>>> > work just fine.  Boeing has developed airborne
>>>> internet access and while
>>>> > the
>>>> > development was slowed by 9/11, it is now becoming
>>>> available for both
>>>> > airliners and general aviation.  With the
>>>> introduction of the Very Light
>>>> > Jet
>>>> > market in the next year or so, the price will come
>>>> down as the volume of
>>>> > consumers go up.  Right now its still expensive.
>>>> The FAA MUST update their
>>>> > communication and separation technology to handle
>>>> the expected traffic
>>>> > increase and have some works in progress, but then
>>>> this is the Federal
>>>> > government afterall. The advertised speeds for
>>>> Verizon are about the same
>>>> > as
>>>> > Boeing's service which uses Imarsat, same as the
>>>> marine systems.
>>>> >
>>>> > Actually, we've had satcomm onboard our aircraft
>>>> for about ten years but
>>>> > use
>>>> > it for datalink only because of the cost.  I ran
>>>> into a friend of mine at
>>>> > DFW a couple of months ago that had just shut an
>>>> engine down on approach
>>>> > because of severe vibration.  He called back to
>>>> Global Operations Command
>>>> > to
>>>> > report the incident and was told they already knew
>>>> about it.  The jet had
>>>> > downlinked to maintenance fifteen minutes earlier
>>>> that it was suffering
>>>> > from
>>>> > an incipient engine problem and MX was monitoring
>>>> it.  Thanks for the
>>>> > heads-up guys!
>>>> >
>>>> > What my broker buddy wants to do is be able to
>>>> accept calls from clients
>>>> > while on the boat and look up their portfolio and
>>>> current prices.  That
>>>> > may
>>>> > take two phones, we'll have to look into that.  He
>>>> trades very little for
>>>> > himself or his clients so occasional access to the
>>>> net would probably
>>>> > suffice.  Personally, I find myself turning my
>>>> cell phone off more and
>>>> > more
>>>> > while on the boat.  If you can't drink beer and
>>>> sail in peace, what's the
>>>> > point?
>>>> >
>>>> > Brad
>>>> >
>>>> > --- Mark Kaynor <mkaynor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Sorry - here's a better link:
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobileoptions/nationalaccess/index.jsp?ac
>>>
>>>> > > tion=nationalAccess. The Broadband Access is
>>>> only available in select
>>>> > > cities
>>>> > > - the National Access is what you'll connect to
>>>> most of the time.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Mark
>>>> > >
>>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>
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