[Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV

[Steve]

Stan, you're just trying to get me back into this
conversation.  Since you insist:-)

Most media has a liberal agenda.  That is why thier
ratings have fallen so much in that last several
years.  Folks just are turning them off.  Most people,
& I say again, Most people can think for themselfs. 
They don't want liberal commentary, they don't need it
explained to them; they Just Want the Facts.  You are
not getting that with liberal media.  Dan Rather,
Newweeks, are prime examples of the liberal media
pushing thier agenda.  

If you give people what they want, you don't need
Government subsidizing it.  Public radio & public TV
are not giving the poeple what they want & therefore
can't make a profit.  Even with the Arts, if these
artists were doing something that people liked, then
they could sell it and not need subsidized by the
government.  And I don't care what anyone say but a
Cross, upside down in a glass of piss - That not Art. 
And my tax dollars should not go to subsidize that.  

The only things that are wrong with Public Schools are
parents not raising thier kids right and teachers
pushing a liberal agenda.  Kids need discipline.  And
parent are leaning more conservative & the public
school liberal agenda is not setting well with them
anymore.

Brad said it well on the Farm problem.  The only thing
I would add is that Government should have never got
into farming in the first place.  Remember when they
came out & told the farmers to plant fence roll to
fence roll.  We flooded the market with food and the
price drop out of it.  Now the USA is the biggest
contributor of free food all over the world.  And if
we stop giving the food away, 3rd world country will
strave.  That is really a good image for the USA.  I
will end with saying that this is a prime example of
why Government should NOT get involved with how
businesses are run. 

However, money for defence is a good thing!!!  We got
to stay the big dog on this planet.  So that we can
have conversations like this without haveing freer of
being shot, raped, sprayed with chemical weapons,
etc:-)  
Steve      

--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

> Saroj,
> 
> you do not need any help - but should you with Ed,
> enlist Brad and 
> Rummy.....and in this instance, probably even Steve.
> 
> stan
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Saroj Gilbert" <saroj at pathfind.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV
> 
> 
> > Heavens, I don't even know how to respond to
> this.. may have to leave it 
> > up to the eloquence of Stan...
> >
> > Are you saying that public radio promotes
> communism and socialism?
> > Are you saying that public radio and TV promote
> control of individuals?
> > They are promoting the control of the point of
> view of the masses?
> > They are somehow disdaining individual freedom?
> >
> > That they are biased in some way I would grant
> you... it is impossible to 
> > be a human being or an organization of any kind
> and not be biased... you 
> > are too... we all are.. it is the nature of being
> a human being...or group 
> > of human beings...  I've been listening to NPR for
> years, and I never 
> > picked up on this... hmmm... just dense maybe..
> somehow intellectually 
> > defective?  I find them innovative, focused on
> presenting representation 
> > of the arts in a way that can't be found anywhere
> else, whether 
> > literature, drama, music.
> >
> > Why don't you suggest they read Natan Saransky's
> book on Democracy.... 
> > they no doubt would... maybe I should read it... I
> haven't...
> >
> > However if you are concerned about control of the
> individual then you MUST 
> > be against public education... that is the biggest
> and most incidious form 
> > of it we have in this country..  I know I am.
> >
> > Saroj
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:28 AM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV
> >
> >
> > Saroj:
> > Unfortunately your public radio and TV often
> promotes a control the
> > masses point of view.  Communism and socialism are
> political positions 
> > used
> > to control individuals.  Big business is corporate
> control of the
> > individual.  Public radio promotes the same thesis
> of controlling the
> > individual.
> > Individual freedom whether political, educational,
> business is
> > distained by your public media. Public Radio or TV
> promotes only the view
> > which represent their biased point of view.
> > Has radio reader ever read Natan Saransky's book
> on Democracy?  Have
> > they promoted writers who espouse individual
> freedoms?
> > They advocate just another form of bigness...
> >
> > Ed Kroposki
> > Greenville, SC, USA
> > Addendum:  "As I would not be a slave, so I would
> not be a master.  This
> > expresses my idea of democracy.  Whatever differ
> from this, to the extent 
> > of
> > difference, is no democracy."  A. Lincoln
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Saroj Gilbert
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:01 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
> >
> > So we can have a source of news that isn't
> massaged to meet the demands of
> > the corporate advertisers....
> > So we aren't bombarded by commercials...
> > So we can listen to the BBC...
> > So we can experience innovation that isn't
> dependent on commercially
> > dictated norms...
> >
> > It is mostly subscriber-supported and grant
> supported anyhow... but you'll
> > notice more and more that it receives a lot of
> commercial support too so 
> > it
> > may not be able to maintain its independence.
> >
> > Saroj
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Philip Esteban" <3drecon at comcast.net>
> > To: "'stan'" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "'The Rhodes 22
> mail list'"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:09 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
> >
> >
> >> Why, with hundreds of channels available are we
> funding public radio and
> >> television, but we are told we need our taxes
> raised to meet other
> >> requirements?  The government needs to get out of
> the radio and tv
> >> business.
> >>
> >> Philip
> >
> >
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