[Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV

Fri May 27 11:48:46 EDT 2005

Stan,

   The dumbing down of America is the liberal's agenda and they are
accomplishing it through the degredation of the public schools.  Inundate
them with curriculi that doesn't teach basics but "social values" based on
feel-good philosphies.  Most people I talk to don't even know what the
Constitution says, what the Bill of Rights says, have no knowledge of the
Federalist or Anti-Federalist Papers and don't realize the limitation put on
Congress by the Constitution.  They think any law the Congress passes is ok.

     As for college, I had GI bill help but I also worked three jobs while I
went and got two Majors out of it.  My brother had NO help and worked two to
three jobs and got two Majors out of it.  I also worked for my Masters
Degree.  My mother paid her own way while raising three children to complete
her Bachelor of Science degree.  If you want to work, you can get where you
want to be.  The promise of this country is not equal outcome, as the
liberals would have it, it is equal opportunity and you can reach the zenith
of your own abiltiies.

Philip

-----Original Message-----
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Steve:

Of course we both want this to be a paradise and of course we want people to
earn their keep.  I know some come out with their first words being, "more
contrast",  but I came out with a hammer in my hand (now where did I put my
sickle?).  It is just that we disagree on how to get there.  I think we need
government to enforce the rules.  I get the feeling you are for deregulation
that allows the shady to take advantage of freedom from government
regulations to screw the rest of us.  That your view of how to get to our
mutual destination is to get government off corporate backs and into women's
interiors. Up to now this country has been so strong that we have been able
to survive our blunders but I am afraid that our turning our backs on
education my not be survivable in this new world.  Steve, in your well
meaning e-mails you tend to often use the word "stupid".  There are no
stupid Rhodies no matter their politics, but you have to sit where I do to
appreciate that there is a growing army of stupid Americans and that may
well turn out to be our Achilles heel. There is a clothing advertiser whose
slogan is, "an educated buyer is our best customer".  I am afraid the
Republicans' thinking is that, "the dumbing down of America is our best
voter pool."  At today's college costs I would never have made it - nor
would many others on this List.  You need a government that understands
spending priorities.  During the "greatest generation" we went through
college at government expense and the prosperity that followed proved the
worthiness of that type of policy.  So Steve, if you really want to get to
the same place dummies like me envision, I respectfully suggest you
re-examine at least some of your thinking.

stan/EC

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
To: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV

> Stan
> I am so glad you are coming around.  Make this country
> a paradise.  That is great.  Sounds like you have
> finally agree that we need to do away with Welfare &
> people need to get jobs & support themselfs.  Now that
> will make this country a true paradise.
> Steve
>
>
> --- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>
>> Agree with you again.  I am a super liberal and they
>> want us to pay.  If
>> evangelistic congress folk want other countries to
>> be just like the US so
>> badly, let them cough up their own dough for their
>> forced feeding and stop
>> stealing the surplus we had and taxes that could be
>> better spent.  For years
>> I have been preaching:  Make this country a paradise
>> and the rest of the
>> world will follow.  Mess up what we had going here
>> and you see what the rest
>> of the world is starting to think about us.
>>
>> stan/gbi
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Philip Esteban" <3drecon at comcast.net>
>> To: <sanderico at earthlink.net>; "'The Rhodes 22 mail
>> list'"
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:10 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV
>>
>>
>> > Typical of most liberals they want the rest of us
>> to pay.  I agree with
>> > you,
>> > if they want it so bad, cough up the dough, their
>> own dough and stop
>> > stealing tax dollars that are better spent.
>> >
>> > Philip
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On
>> Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:18 AM
>> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV
>> >
>> >
>> > Saroj,
>> >
>> > Anybody that thinks public radio isn't pushing
>> their own agenda hasn't
>> > been listening to it much. I listen to NPR quite a
>> lot because it's
>> > true, you can get some better news coverage than
>> on most other radio
>> > stations. BUT, there are times when I have to turn
>> it off because
>> > there's a few whiny bedwetters that are just too
>> much.
>> >
>> > I think, if NPR is such a great thing, the folks
>> that use it should
>> > contribute to keep it going. They all don't want
>> to hear all that nasty
>> > corperate advertising but apparently aren't bright
>> enough to figure out
>> > how all those other radio stations (and the people
>> who work there) make
>> > their living. I contribute to NPR even though I
>> don't necessarilly agree
>> > with much of their left leaning politics. If the
>> people that want NPR
>> > don't want it bad enough to throw a few bucks
>> their way in exchange for
>> > no advertising, I guess it can't be all that
>> important to them and it
>> > should fall by the wayside.
>> >
>> > Rik
>> >
>> > ed kroposki wrote:
>> >
>> >>Saroj:
>> >> Unfortunately your public radio and TV often
>> promotes a control the
>> >>masses point of view.  Communism and socialism are
>> political positions
>> >>used
>> >>to control individuals.  Big business is corporate
>> control of the
>> >>individual.  Public radio promotes the same thesis
>> of controlling the
>> >>individual.
>> >> Individual freedom whether political,
>> educational, business is
>> >>distained by your public media. Public Radio or TV
>> promotes only the view
>> >>which represent their biased point of view.
>> >> Has radio reader ever read Natan Saransky's book
>> on Democracy?  Have
>> >>they promoted writers who espouse individual
>> freedoms?
>> >> They advocate just another form of bigness...
>> >>
>> >>Ed Kroposki
>> >>Greenville, SC, USA
>> >>Addendum:  "As I would not be a slave, so I would
>> not be a master.  This
>> >>expresses my idea of democracy.  Whatever differ
>> from this, to the extent
>> > of
>> >>difference, is no democracy."  A. Lincoln
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>> Behalf Of Saroj Gilbert
>> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:01 AM
>> >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
>> >>
>> >>So we can have a source of news that isn't
>> massaged to meet the demands of
>> >>the corporate advertisers....
>> >>So we aren't bombarded by commercials...
>> >>So we can listen to the BBC...
>> >>So we can experience innovation that isn't
>> dependent on commercially
>> >>dictated norms...
>> >>
>> >>It is mostly subscriber-supported and grant
>> supported anyhow... but you'll
>> >>notice more and more that it receives a lot of
>> commercial support too so
>> >>it
>> >>may not be able to maintain its independence.
>> >>
>> >>Saroj
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Philip Esteban" <3drecon at comcast.net>
>> >>To: "'stan'" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "'The Rhodes 22
>> mail list'"
>> >><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:09 PM
>> >>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Why, with hundreds of channels available are we
>> funding public radio and
>> >>>television, but we are told we need our taxes
>> raised to meet other
>> >>>requirements?  The government needs to get out of
>> the radio and tv
>> >>>business.
>> >>>
>> >>>Philip
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
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