[Rhodes22-list] Satire: Memorial Day Origins - Thank You R-22 Veterans

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Sat May 28 13:37:55 EDT 2005


Brad,

It sure didn't take you long to turn a question into a fight.  I was 
perfectly happy to let everyone come to their own conclusions. 

Our Memorial Day was a memorial to our Civil War dead.  When I was a 
kid, it was not celebrated in Tennessee or any of the other Confederate 
states.   In fact, there was considerable hostility in the South to the 
Northern celebration of Memorial Day which manifested itself in a 
counter-tradition of big Southern picnics, culminating in automobile 
races to show disdain for the solemnity of the Northern celebrations.  
Southern states commemorated their Civil War dead on a different day.

Well, the South won that one, didn't they?

Nobody either remembers or cares who Memorial Day is supposed to 
memorialize.

Veterans Day is November 11th.and is the day put aside to remember our 
Veterans of all wars.  That used to be Armistice Day, the day put aside 
to commemorate the end of the "War to End all Wars".  But nobody 
remembers that either.

"The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but it 
can never forget what they did here."  Lincoln got that part backwards, 
but the full text of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address follows anyhow.

There are no R-22 Civil War Veterans to Memorialize on Memorial Day, 
(not even Stan) and waving a flag between six packs of beer won't change 
that.

Bill Effros

Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this 
continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the 
proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or 
any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure. We are met on 
a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of 
that field as a final resting-place for those who here gave their lives 
that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we 
should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we 
cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead who struggled 
here have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract. The 
world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but it can 
never forget what they did here. It is for us the living rather to be 
dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have 
thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to 
the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we 
take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full 
measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall 
not have died in vain, that this nation under God shall have a new birth 
of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the 
people shall not perish from the earth.

Abraham Lincoln
Gettysburg Address
November 19, 1863






brad haslett wrote:

>Bill,
>
>How far back in history do you want to go?  One
>argument is that the tradition of Memorial Day dates
>back 2500 years when Greek communities set aside a day
>to honor local heros.  The tradition in this country
>traces its history to shortly after the Civil War. 
>Several communities claim to be the "first" and LBJ
>officially designated Waterloo, NY as the birthplace. 
>Substantial evidence indicates that it was in 1866
>when some women from Columbus, Mississippi traveled to
>Shilo to decorate the graves of fallen Confederate
>soldiers.  I go with that one.
>
>Why don't you come visit me Bill.  Shilo is five
>minutes from the "CoraShen".  My family will go there
>tomorrow as we do on every Memorial Day weekend.  You
>and I can walk down to the river and stand on the spot
>where young boys from Iowa, having been issued guns
>only an hour before on their steamship, rushed to the
>"Hornets Nest" for their final resting place.  From
>there we can drive to Franklin, TN and stand on
>Winstead hill and look over the plain where John Bell
>Hood sent over 1700 of his troops to their deaths in
>less than four hours, one of the bloodiest battles in
>American History.  We can have lunch on the grounds of
>the Carter House where a young kid from Wisconsin,
>named MacArthur was making coffee when the morning
>silence was broken by cannon shot.  MacArthur
>distinguished himself that day and later fathered a
>famous son who did the same in WW2.  Then we can drive
>to Nashville and follow the retreat of a dying army in
>a lost cause.  The list goes on and on.  
>
>Many of these soldiers we honor from that period were
>new immigrants who didn't speak English.  They left
>their homes in Europe to escape oppression and pursue
>their dreams in America, same as immigrants, legal and
>otherwise do now.  Like all soldiers in our history,
>they believed in something bigger than themselves,
>even if it was just to be a part of small unit and
>protect their fellow brothers in arms.
>
>Soldiers in our country don't make policy, civilian
>leaders do.  They should not be judged by the wisdom
>of the fight, the choice is not theirs to make.  I'll
>leave this subject with the words of another man who
>started his political career nine miles from my
>hometown in Illinois.
>
>But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can
>not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground.
>The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here,
>have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add
>or detract. The world will little note, nor long
>remember what we say here, but it can never forget
>what they did here. It is for us the living, rather,
>to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they
>who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is
>rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task
>remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we
>take increased devotion to that cause for which they
>gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here
>highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in
>vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new
>birth of freedom -- and that government of the people,
>by the people, for the people, shall not perish from
>the earth. 
>
>A Lincoln
>
>Brad Haslett
>"CoraShen"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>How many people on this list under the age of 40
>>know what Memorial Day 
>>originally memorialized without looking it up?
>>
>>How many under 50?
>>
>>How many under 60?
>>
>>I would expect some of those over 60 to know the
>>answer without peeking.
>>
>>If you don't know, look it up.  Most of you will be
>>quite surprised.
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>brad haslett wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of
>>>      
>>>
>>things.
>>    
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>>>The decayed and degraded state of moral and
>>>      
>>>
>>patriotic
>>    
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>>>feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is
>>>      
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>>much
>>    
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>>>worse. The person who has nothing for which he is
>>>willing to fight, nothing which is more important
>>>      
>>>
>>than
>>    
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>>>his own personal safety, is a miserable creature
>>>      
>>>
>>and
>>    
>>
>>>has no chance of being free unless made and kept so
>>>      
>>>
>>by
>>    
>>
>>>the exertions of better men than himself." 
>>>
>>>
>>>- John Stuart Mill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thank you Lt. Col. Esteban and all the other
>>>      
>>>
>>veterans
>>    
>>
>>>on the Rhodes 22 list.  Enjoy this weekend!  I'll
>>>raise a glass to your service on the "CoraShen"
>>>      
>>>
>>today
>>    
>>
>>>in your honor.
>>>
>>>Brad
>>>
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