[Rhodes22-list] Re: Marine Heads

[daniel snyder]

Bill, thank you for your view.  I was headed in the direction of the "works" 
with the marine head.  I decided, after reading of others experience, to go 
the porta potti route.  Seems like the Thetford 585 electric flush model 
would more than suffice for us, as our intended usage mirrors your email. 
We are just now picking the fabric for our interior cushions, so I still 
have to let Stan know about our direction on this.  I have also read that it 
is helpful to build some type of simple structure around the base of the 
porta potti to more or less keep it anchored while underway.

We also want to explore with Stan the plastic tie stay system that Ed 
Kroposki wrote about...also having a battened IMF.

I'm amazed at the amount of useful tips available through this list.  I've 
already spent a ton of time nosing around in the archives....a goldmine of 
info.  Thanks

Dan
New London, NH
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From: "William E. Wickman" <wewickman at duke-energy.com>
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Marine Heads


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> Ron, et. al.,
> Everyone has an opinion about marine heads vs. porta-pottie, so here is
> mine.  When I was first looking at a Rhodes, having a marine head was an
> important criteria.  At one point, I had considered going the full monty; 
> a
> marine head with holding tank, macerator, and even an electra-san.
> However, after reading the archives and upon further reflection, I 
> realized
> that the main reason that I wanted one was not for practical reasons, but
> because it would make me feel more yachty.  The Rhodes is not a large 
> boat.
> That is what makes it so appealing, because it doesn't have all the big
> boat problems.  As I read somewhere else on the list, it seems like those
> big boat sailors that have marine heads are always having to fix something
> on them.  Moreover, unless you keep the holding tank empty and clean, 
> there
> always seems to be an odor.  Simple is good.  I realized that I am not
> going to be living on this boat, and the longest that I will probably ever
> stay out is a week (maybe two if I'm lucky).  90+% of the time I am out on
> the boat for a day sail or overnighter.  I believe that most Rhodies will
> confess a similar percentage.  I ended up with a boat that has just the
> porta-pottie, and have been very happy with it.  There is zero maintenance
> with it, and it is very easy to dump anywhere there is a toilet.  Granted
> it is a bit more hands-on than a pumpout, but a porta-pottie is much 
> easier
> to keep sanitized than a non-removeable holding tank.
>
> I'll finish with a true story.  I was on vacation during the summer of 
> 2004
> chartering a 45 foot sailboat in the San Juan Islands.  It was a wonderful
> trip.  We had just docked for the evening in a marina on San Juan Island
> and were walking off the docks to town when I saw the skipper of a rather
> nice yacht in the process of emptying his holding tank into a "honey pot".
> At this particular marina, they had tanks mounted on wheels with electric
> pumps that they called honey pots.  It was a self-serve system that 
> enabled
> you to empty your sewage at your slip without having to go to a pump-out
> station.  Well, right as we were passing by, something went amiss.  The
> hose popped out of the holding tank fitting and drenched the skipper who
> was bending over the hose fitting.  After everyone around finished their
> collective Eeeeew, there was a bit of laughter by the small crowd that
> always seems to gather around when some such activity as emptying a 
> holding
> tank is taking place.  It looked just like something out of a comedy.  The
> skipper didn't think it was very funny though, and proceeded to spew a
> string of profanities that required me to clap my hands over my 8 year
> old's hears and quickly usher her away.  Moral of the story:  A
> porta-pottie will not blow-out in your face.
>
> Bill W.
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> Hi
> Ed K., I do exist.  Been busy and not always near a computer.   Sorry 
> about
> the delay.  Thanks to you, Mary Lou, Steve Hemphill and Russell Miller for
> your responses.
> I live in Wynnewood, PA, Mary Lou.  I must get hold of your chapter in
> "Sailing Small."   Thanks for the references Ed.  I will look at them.  I
> already see abut the differing opinions, answers and facts,  though each 
> of
> you say newer is better.  Actually that is true of your comments re boat
> and motor.
> I've used marine head but never have used a porta-potti. Seems there are
> differences of opinion both about enclosed head and about porta-potti
> versus marine head.  Why prefer the porta-potti?  I assume as Ed says, 
> that
> this may be in the archives.   I will look.
> Looks like I've got some thinking to do.  And some talking to Stan.
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