[Rhodes22-list] Buying a Used Outboard from General Boats
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mputnam1 at aol.com
Thu Nov 24 21:30:37 EST 2005
I'm curious how people have faired with used outboards they purchased from GB as part of a recyle ... we're considering it, but because I view the outboard as potentially a critical component from a safety perspective, I'm inclined to buy new rather than try and save a buck. But maybe all of you recycle customers have had good luck with Stan's used outboards ...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Connolly <jbconnolly at comcast.net>
To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:21:00 -0500
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Carb problems with NISSAN outboards?
Bill,
Could very well be true. I don't have the Link 10, so I can only judge by
result, that the battery (1, used, from Stan as part of the recycle) ends
the relatively short summer season up here kind of pooped. I did not have
solar panels, but bought a set and will install them prior to launch in the
spring. I will also likely get a new battery.
BTW 4" of snow in my yard this morning northwest of Boston. Happy
Thanksgiving to all
Jim Connolly
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:05 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carb problems with NISSAN outboards?
Jim,
As I understand it, all electric starting motors recharge batteries.
Some may require a wire to be rigged up, but all will do it. I have the
Tohatsu 8, electric start, and I also have a Link 10 electrical monitor. I
also use the engine primarily just to get into and out of a mooring field.
I was surprised at how much juice the engine puts back into the battery in a
very short time as measured by my meter. It always returns more electricity
than was required to start the engine.
I have 2 solar panels, 2 batteries, and the Tohatsu. I never take the
batteries off the boat, summer or winter. They are never recharged using
shore power. They maintain high voltages (13.25-14.05) for their entire
extended lives. My batteries routinely last for more than double their
expected lives. I have far more power on board than I have ever needed, and
I'm never careful with it.
I suspect you are underestimating the amount of electricity your Tohatsu is
putting back into your battery.
Bill Effros
Jim Connolly wrote:
>2002 Tohatsu 8 has been bulletproof so far. Not sure about ethanol
>additive as I live in MA. Also the least expensive electric start
>motor I could find (at request of wife who hates to pull start).
>Charging soil came with it but has been a waste of $ since I don't run
>the engine long enough to recharge the battery, just inside the mooring
field.
>
>Previous boat had a Nissan 5. This also was trouble free.
>
>Good luck
>
>Jim Connolly
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lou Rosenberg
>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:55 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carb problems with NISSAN outboards?
>
> Peter, Bill
> Sorry to go back to this post but I have found some word of mouth
>info on the Nissan/ Tohatsu motors and want to confirm it with anyone
>on this list's experience.
> I heard from a sailor in my marina that the 2004 Nissan outboards DO
>NOT RUN WELL AT ALL with ETHANOL added to the fuel. In NYC we have
>ethanol added during the some parts of the season .
> Does any one have any experiences with bad carbureators on the NISSAN
>or Tohasu OB motors?
>
>
>
>
>
>>Peter,
>>
>>6.5 Pitch Prop.
>>
>>I know mechanically what that means, but I never understand what it
>>does. What is the standard prop for motorboats? Why?
>>
>>I want a prop that will allow me to go slow. There is a lot of wind
>>and current where I dock. I want a prop that will allow me to slowly
>>approach the dock, whether or not there is wind and current, without
>>disengaging the prop, without stalling out, and without forcing me to
>>coast in for the last 5 to 100 feet depending on wind and current
>>conditions.
>>
>>I don't care if I have to rev higher to get the boat to hull speed.
>>
>>What prop do I want?
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>Peter Thorn wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi Lou,
>>>
>>>Congratulations on completing that ugly task. May everything be
>>>downhill for you from here on. I bought Tohatsu 9.8 for Raven, but I
>>>really wanted an 8hp. At the time the distributor was all out of 8s,
>>>so I settled because I needed it then. The motor weighs 82 pounds
>>>same as the 8, the lightest 4 stroke on the market. Added a 6.5
>>>pitch prop, (for sailboats) and everything works quite well. 95% of
>>>the time, Raven motors at 1/16 throttle and 4-4.5 knots. It's the
>>>best compromise for most quiet, least vibration and best speed
>>>through water there. Less than 1/2 gal per hour fuel consumption there
too.
>>>Any time I would like, I can twist up to 1/4 throttle and hull speed.
>>>Beyond that, just bigger and bigger waves. That
>>>9.8 can really make some big ones!
>>>
>>>Just returned from Oriental to Ocracoke -- fantastic trip! Waiting
>>>to exchange pictures with my fellow adventurers and write up my log
>>>notes,
>>>
>>>
>then
>
>
>>>will post to the list. Not sure I can do better than Chris G though. A
>>>real South Western Odysseus!
>>>
>>>PT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Rosenberg"
>>><lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu>
>>>To: "Richard Smith" <sailnut at worldnet.att.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>>><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:16 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lou's CB trunk almost done
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks Richard,
>>>> Ok I will look into Eldridge, and I do plan to time my passage.
>>>> So you are saying that an 8hp is plenty for the Rhodes in most
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>situations?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>< will a 8hp Tohatsu get me around Hells Gate where the Triboro
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Bridge meets the East River, with the tide coming in and the
>>>>>>current going south?>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Five horsepower is plenty. The speed of the current in this area
>>>>>can
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>exceed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the hull speed of the boat. No reasonable amount of power will
>>>>>overcome that limitation. Get a copy of Eldridge and time your
>>>>>passages to take advantage of the current not fight it.
>>>>>
>>>>>The heavy engine on the stern will worsen the hobby horsing
>>>>>tendency and associated cavitation in rough conditions. Exactly
>>>>>when you don't
>>>>>
>>>>>
>need .
>
>
>>>>>Richard Smith
>>>>>
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