@CHECK++ Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatoryrhetoric

[Saroj Gilbert]

All resolved, Chris, order the round!  And thanks so much for your Baja trip 
posts... Really delightful to read.  I spent a lot of time on the Pacific 
Coast of Baja in my 20's... fishing, collecting specimens, diving... very 
fond memories.. One specimen we used to collect for our aquarium was 
octopus.  Actually from the Santa Cruz pier.  I made the mistake of holding 
one in my hand once and got bit by its little beak which I didn't realize it 
had.  Unfortunately we couldn't provide a very good environment for them and 
they never lived more than 3 months.. quite enjoyable to watch though.

Hope we can implement an easy way to get stories like yours easily into the 
owners' web site.

Saroj
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: @CHECK++ Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. 
Inflammatoryrhetoric


> Saroj,
>        Good analogy about the bar fight, y'all need to step out back and
> finish the fight out side while we finish our drinks!  And I'm buying when
> you guys come back in!
> Chris G
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Saroj Gilbert" <saroj at pathfind.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 6:13 AM
> Subject: @CHECK++ Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatory
> rhetoric
>
>
>> Wally, with all due respect, I'm not clear where you are coming from and
> why
>> you are writing to Rummy about me.  I prefer to be dealt with directly.
>>
>> I have read and reread my posts, and, frankly I don't see that I attacked
>> Herb... I certainly did attack his ideas... I didn't attack him
> personally.
>> I certainly did use sardonic analogies to show how absurd I think his
> ideas
>> are.... I didn't call him names.  Actually the whole thing started with 
>> my
>> response to a post by Bill.  Herb responded with a post that basically
> said
>> liberals are too stupid to understand what Bennett meant.. and implied
> that
>> I am a liberal...  Ipso, I am stupid... basic logic syllogism.
>>
>> This sure sounds like prejudging some one because of their politics.
>> Frankly I think I have held back with amazing restraint given his 
>> personal
>> attack against me.  And then when I stopped responding, he escalated even
>> more and wouldn't leave it alone.  The whole dictionary thing 
>> demonstrated
>> an amazing bout of backpedaling.  The words were out and he wasn't
> referring
>> to whether or not I'm a canine.
>>
>> I would appreciate it if you would show me where I "was doing as much
> giving
>> (actually more) as taking.
>>  She unloaded on Herb first and he fired back.".  Let's do the equivalent
> of
>> "taking it outside" and continue this back-channel".  I'm interested in
> your
>> point of view, but I don't think it serves the list members to continue
> this
>> bar fight publicly.  I only ask that you go back and reread all the posts
> so
>> you are clear how the thing got started and who launched the first 
>> attack.
>>
>> Saroj
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:20 AM
>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatory rhetoric
>>
>>
>> > Rummy,
>> >
>> > I realize Saroj is a long time list member. I have communicated with 
>> > her
>> > off list as I have family living in Hampton. I like Saroj and often I
>> > agree with her. BUT - I think Saroj was doing as much giving (actually
>> > more) as taking. She unloaded on Herb first and he fired back.
>> >
>> > I have heard much worse on this list. Do you really think it is cool to
>> > tell someone to f-off in a bar?  Sorry Rummy I disagree. I ran a
>> > restaurant/bar for 8 years. This type of language may be cool with a
> buddy
>> > but in a heated exchange with someone you hardly know or just met? I
> don't
>> > think so. I have had to break up to many bar fights over silly words.
>> >
>> > Herb defended himself from some pretty harsh words. I agree he could of
>> > used a better word than "bitch". Saroj tried to pigeon hole him into 
>> > her
>> > view of all from the right. It turns out Saroj made several mistakes
> about
>> > Herb in her posts. She pre-judged him because of his politics. 
>> > Sometimes
>> > people's minds aren't really open. Closed minds limit learning; vison
> and
>> > hearing are shut down.
>> >
>> > Those of you that have been on this list realize my politics lean more
>> > towards Saroj than Herbs but I call them like I see them.
>> >
>> > I put up with Steve for a long time! :-) This seems pretty tame.
>> >
>> > Wally
>> >
>> >>From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>> >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>To: hparsons at parsonsys.com, rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatory rhetoric
>> >>Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:09:09 EDT
>> >>
>> >>Herb.
>> >>I'm not going to debate this with you. Calling Saroj a "bitch" is
>> >>unacceptable. Having an intelligent discussion is acceptable. We all
> agree
>> >>that  we
>> >>don't all agree, but can discuss it without inflammatory rhetoric.
> Telling
>> >>someone to "fuck off" is acceptable bar language. Name calling is not.
> It
>> >>will  get
>> >>you into a fight in any bar I've ever been in and that's why I stay out
> of
>> >>bars. The more I drink the worse my vocabulary becomes and I end up
> doing
>> >>things
>> >>  I might later consider stupid.
>> >>
>> >>Rummy
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