[Rhodes22-list] Why Rebuild New Orleans?

michael meltzer michaelmeltzer at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 15 17:48:36 EDT 2005


i guess pumping out, get the insurance guys in to pay
off, use the govermant money to buy the land at a fair
value, bulldoze everything flat below sea level and
refloodeverything to sea level in 90days will not
work. -mjm

--- Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:

> JW,
> 
> Isn't that exactly what happened?
> 
> PT
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim White" <lemenagerie22 at yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Why Rebuild New
> Orleans?
> 
> 
> > Herb:
> > Most of us down here in South Texas would rather
> the government not
> provide cat 5 proofing. We're already sick of high
> taxes and besides, it
> would ruin the view.
> >
> > A lot of us who live here on the coast understand
> the risks. Hey, you rool
> the dice, you take your chances....
> > jw
> >
> >
> > Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
> > Question for all:
> >
> > How many category 5 hurricanes have struck New
> Orleans in recorded
> history?
> >
> > Another question,
> >
> > What if "bulletproofing" the city against a cat 5
> costs more than the
> repair bill for NO?
> >
> > Yet another,
> >
> > Why stop with New Orleans? Why not cat-5 proof
> every coastal city from
> South Texas to the northern part of North Carolina?
> I mean, I know that
> would be trillions of dollars, but if it's good for
> one city, isn't it good
> for all?
> >
> >
> > Herb Parsons
> >
> > S/V O'Jure
> > 1976 O'Day 25
> > Lake Grapevine, N TX
> >
> > S/V Reve de Papa
> > 1971 Coronado 35
> > Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
> >
> > >>> pthorn at nc.rr.com 9/15/2005 2:49:11 PM >>>
> > Saroj,
> >
> > I completely agree with you and Rummy about that.
> I makes no sense to
> > rebuild "as was". At the least, they should first
> upfit the levees to
> > withstand a Category 5, or plan on converting to a
> "new world Venice".
> > Proper planning could have avoided the whole
> catastrophe. If it's too
> > expensive to do it properly, then perhaps it
> shouldn't be done.
> >
> > PT
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Saroj Gilbert"
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 3:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Why Rebuild New
> Orleans?
> >
> >
> > > Its an incredible dilemma given the ecology of
> the area... however New
> > > Orleans is truly a national treasure rich with
> historical
> significance...
> > > maybe they'll have to pull a Chicago where the
> city was built up on
> stilts
> > > essentially... used to be down a story... often
> when they excavate for
> new
> > > buildings they find store fronts and evidence of
> streets at what is now
> > the
> > > basement area... You can walk from one end of
> the downtown area to the
> > > other underground still...
> > >
> > > Saroj
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From:
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Why Rebuild New
> Orleans?
> > >
> > >
> > > > The state of Wisconsin has had some experience
> with moving towns that
> > were
> > > > located in flood prone zones. The southwestern
> part of the state is
> very
> > > > hilly
> > > > and is prone to flash floods, some of epic
> proportions. After
> rebuilding
> > > > several cities time after time, they finally
> figured out that the
> three
> > > > cities
> > > > couldn't stay were they were. It took a lot of
> time and persuasion,
> but
> > > > the
> > > > cities relocated and are thriving today due to
> both state and federal
> > > > aid. The
> > > > point is that they are no longer flooding.
> Cities can be moved and
> > > > people's
> > > > attitude's changed. How many more people need
> die simply to keep a
> city
> > > > where it
> > > > shouldn't be.
> > > > Perhaps we should look to correct a problem
> that was created a long
> time
> > > > ago
> > > > by.......of course, the French. My vote goes
> with relocating the city.
> > > >
> > > > Rummy said that.
> > > >
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