[Rhodes22-list] Robert Brower

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Fri Sep 23 11:12:01 EDT 2005


Hank,

It's for everybody, but it's not applied.  They get a guy to come in 
with a huge cherry picker on a single day after all boats are on land.  
They take down all the masts for a few bucks each.  I forget the amount, 
but it's pretty trivial because they do 20-30 boats a day.  They know 
how to do it, they have a crew on the boat and a guy in the cherry 
picker.  They have all the equipment they need.  I've watched them for 
several hours and not seen a single mast even come close to being hurt.

I left mine up last year and the IMF clew came loose and flailed until 
the sail was torn to shreds.  I had to replace several panels, wound up 
with a sail that isn't quite the right shape, and will never do that again.

Bill Effros

Hank wrote:

>Bill,
> Is the mast down requirement just for small boats? What about larger boats
>where taking the mast down is a complicated affair? I know if my yard
>required me to take down the mast of my Islander 36, I'd be looking for a
>new yard.
> Just curious,
> Hank
> On 9/23/05, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
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>
>>Bob,
>>
>>My yard requires sails and masts down during the winter to avoid having
>>boats hurt each other during winter storms.
>>
>>I have done more damage with a tarp than without one. Snow and ice can
>>put a lot of weight on the mast, and on whatever is holding the tarp
>>down. When tarp holder-downers start flailing they can do a lot of damage.
>>
>>Many boats are hurt each winter by their tarps in my yard. I don't use
>>a tarp any more. I put wax on the entire boat--topsides, deck and all.
>>I don't use Colinite on any surface I will ever walk on because it is
>>too hard/slippery. I use softer waxes for those surfaces. All the wax
>>will be gone by Spring.
>>
>>I store the boat very bow high, using the jack on the trailer. All
>>water exits via the stern, the same way it does when you are on the
>>water. If there is a lot of snow or ice I check the stern drain holes
>>to ensure they are clear.
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>michael meltzer wrote:
>>
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>>
>>>adgreed, 1)the mast has to come down for the IMF and
>>>the GB style jib roller, 2)the trap is need for other
>>>resions, like gel coat and the fact you will find the
>>>boat flood from junk in the drains and the boat might
>>>not be level and sitting on it lines on the trailer,
>>>you want to frame and trap. -mjm
>>>
>>>--- Ronald Lipton <rlipton at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>>I disagree, leave the sails on, cover the boat with
>>>>a tarp and you are
>>>>done.
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Hank" <hnw555 at gmail.com>
>>>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>>>><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:20 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Robert Brower
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>>>>
>>>>Rummy,
>>>>If you're going to store the boat for the winter
>>>>you should remove the
>>>>sails so that you preserve the sunshade. It, too,
>>>>will break down
>>>>eventually. Taking the sails off is not a big deal
>>>>and if the boat is not
>>>>going to be sailed for several months, it makes
>>>>sense.
>>>>Hank
>>>>
>>>>On 9/22/05, R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>>><R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Bob,
>>>>>Why do you want to remove the sails. Both the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>genoa (assuming you have the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>175) and the IMF main sail have sun shades.
>>>>>Yes, I have to admit that I am the helmsman on a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>friends large Hunter (37
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>footer) for the race season. My wife is tactician
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>and we are getting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>better each
>>>>>week.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rummy
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