[Rhodes22-list] Michael, look here...

Tootle ekroposki at charter.net
Tue Aug 15 18:22:52 EDT 2006


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MichaelMeltzer wrote:
> 
> If you were sailing around the nankuteget area, 15hp with a low pitch
> might be enought, on the other hand a tolling mptor might be a resonable
> option on a high CO Lake. It all depends, general rule is 6hp for lakes,
> 8hp for bay,sounds,great lakes and 9.9 ht for cosal/open water. What you
> are missing is wind/wave/boat intreaction. More wind over biger bodt of
> water mean more power is needed
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Bob Fletcher" <tfl4625 at blackfoot.net>
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:21:59 
> To:"Rhodes list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] More motor choice questions
> 
> We have a Rhodes ordered for spring delivery.  I've looked at archives and
> followed recent threads on motor choices, but still have a few questions. 
> Our sailing will be mostly inland NW lakes but after more experience maybe
> Pugeot Sound and San Juans.
> 
> I'm leaning toward a Tohatsu 4-cycle 6HP with factory remote control
> mounted on port gunwale.  The 6 HP picked for lighter (55 lb) weight, less
> cost, no need for electric start so no need for second battery, (also
> saving cost and weight).  
> 
> I read that 4HP (or even less) will get the boat to 6 knot hull speed so
> any extra power is to buck wind, and maybe current.  So the questions:
> 
> POWER - Is 6 HP enough for my plans?  I'm a little puzzled by some recent
> comments about needing extra power to deal with currents and tides.  Isn't
> hull speed relative to the water you're in, regardless of how fast that
> water is moving?  In other words, against an 8 knot current won't you lose
> 2 knots way (motoring at hull speed) unless your motor can push you
> significantly above hull speed?  Will an 8 or 9.9 HP motor really do that? 
> If so, maybe it's worth the extra cost and weight, especially for coastal
> sailing, but if not, what does the extra power (and weight and expense)
> get you? At a given speed, will the larger motor not working so hard be
> quieter than a smaller one?
> 
> REMOTE CONTROL - I haven't seen a picture of Stan's UPP tiller mounted
> remote, but an aftermarket "PowerTiller, " (http://powertiller.net) looks
> a little cumbersome.  Wouldn't a port gunwale mounted unit me more
> "intuitive," (right hand on tiller, left controlling motor)?
> 
> RUDDER TO MOTOR LINK - Stans UPP offers this, and others (McGregor -
> gasp), tout it as an advantage.  My only experience was on a recent sail
> on a Rhodes which didn't link them and I couldn't see much problem with
> motor steering (rudder up) at low speed or reverse and rudder steering
> (with motor pointed straight ahead) for "motor cruising".  Is the linkage
> really a big advantage?  If so, has anyone cobbled together a link other
> than with Stan's UPP? Could it be as simple as a quick disconnect rod
> between the tiller and the motor "handle"?
> 
> REACTIONS - Any other reactions my tentative choice or the resons for it?  
> 
> No need to rehash the questions of 2 cycle vs. 4 cycle or Tohatsu vs. the
> rest of the world - those have been recently beat to death.  
> 
> Thanks for your thoughts
> 
> Bob Fletcher 
> 
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