[Rhodes22-list] TGGW

[Geankoplis]

Bud,

   But you forgot where the thermal energy came from in the first place.
Heat always flows from the area of highest energy to the area of lowest
energy.  The warmth (thermal energy) that drives hurricanes comes from the
differential between the very warm tropical seas (heated by the sun as it
has been for billions of years and the heat retained by the atmosphere).
This retained energy is what has raised the average sea temperature by
several degrees in a number of areas in the last 50 years or so.  Again, the
source of this energy is the heat that is retained by the earth because of
the increase in CO2.  CO2 is a gas that reflects infrared radiation, the
type of radiation that is outbound from the earth, but is transparent to the
types of radiation inbound from the sun.  It isn't the heat from our
activities that are having the affect on the earth, it is the one-way
filters that we are erecting that are causing us to retain more and more
thermal energy from the sun. Now to Brad's credit, his high flying jets are
injecting a lot of water vapor very high into the atmosphere and as a result
some of the sun's energy is being reflected.  However to save the earth we
should not each fly around in a 757.

Chris G

 

 

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How about this as a theory....

   the oceans are warmed by the sun, and then give up their energy via 

evaporation, transferring

that energy as heat to the atmosphere - at some given rate.  Now suppose 

hurricanes also convert

the ocean's thermal energy to the atmosphere, BUT at a much faster rate, 

such that a hurricane

significantly contributes  to global warming.  Thus, more tropical 

storms (hurricanes/cylones/typhones)

equate to a faster warming of the atmosphere. Obviously hurricanes also 

convert some of the ocean thermal

energy to kinetic energy and damage lots of objects in it's path.  At 

one time I had read something

that equated the amount of energy released by a hurricane to the level 

of an atomic bomb.

 

-Bud

 

 

 

Geankoplis wrote:

 

>Energy is never destroyed; it is only converted into other forms.  The

>thermal energy of the heat is converted to kinetic energy, or transferred
to

>the atmosphere.  Think of the Hurricane as a package of energy of several

>types leaking all over the place and trying to reach some sort of

>equilibrium by transferring the energy from an area of high thermal energy

>(tropics) to one of low thermal energy (higher latitudes).

> 

>Chris G

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>Bud,

>Hurricanes actually destroy/consume heat energy.

> 

>Rummy

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