[Rhodes22-list] BR Intellectual Property

TN Rhodey tnrhodey at hotmail.com
Sat Feb 4 15:04:04 EST 2006


Todd,

I think this is the first time i disagree with one of your posts. :-)  I am 
sure Roger's boom room is quite stout but I don't want anything that is 
integrated with PTE or bimini. One reason is i have neither but more 
imprtantly I just want to be able to shelter the cokcpit from rain, dew, and 
sun. I want something that is easy to rig, take down, and store.  Not to 
mention Roger's design looks hideous.

Wally


>From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] BR Intellectual Property
>Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:35:34 -0500
>
>Bill,
>
>    Which Todd are you talking to?  We have at least a couple on the list 
>now.  I guess I'll have to start signing my last initial from now on.
>
>    As far as the boom room design and any intellectual property rights 
>go...I personally am not involved in this discussion.  I guess Brad's 
>comment 'money talks and BS walks' should sum it all up nicely.
>
>   It is funny though, how all of this talk of a boom room syndicate 
>quickly dissolved...especially when you mentioned giving the design to 
>Stan.  If boat owners want to give Stan input and work with him on this, 
>then that is fantastic. If you want to act as an agent on spec for GBI,  
>(maybe Robert S. has a cool Latin phrase for this ;-D)then more power to 
>you.  The question on most mind's here is probably not what portion of the 
>profit goes to Stan, but how much or what is Bill going to get out of this 
>whole thing?
>
>   I could tell you what I REALLY think but ...it would cost ya.  I'd offer 
>my opinion for the measly sum of a signed copy of your book.  Not the one 
>you are thinking about.  The one about how to sell my house in five days.
>
>
>Todd T.
>
>Addendum; (Latin for PS?)  Seriously though, I think it makes more sense to 
>use Roger's design as a start.  Why have a bimini AND a boom room?  In 
>Rogers design, the framework of the bimini does double duty.  It is just 
>more efficient use of space, materials and weight. IMHO
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
> > To: "R22 List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] BR Intellectual Property
> > Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:56:46 -0500
> >
> >
> > Todd,
> >
> > Please help me here.
> >
> > As usual, Stan has taken a completely different approach to
> > Dodger/Awning construction from the traditional marine source approach.
> > Most of us have enough faith in Stan to accept his experience at face 
>value.
> >
> > We are planning to take all of his experience and build from it a
> > low-cost highly useful addition to our boats.  Stan has graciously told
> > us which way to go, from the many possibilities.  For this he surely is
> > entitled to something.  What?  How do we give it to him?  Do we each pay
> > him a royalty if we build BRs based on his concepts?
> >
> > It looks like if each of us gets some PVC or another material if
> > preferred, we can each build a frame based on Stan's design.  We can
> > then each make panels that hang from that frame.  The panels can be made
> > of blue plastic, or anything else once we publish frame sizes and 
>shapes.
> >
> > Which means each of us could have a BR this summer if we want one.  We
> > can pool our knowledge and come up with common specs for everything.  We
> > can improve panels and frames as we can afford to update.
> >
> > Stan would wind up owning the patterns, and specs for the room.  Over
> > time he could fabricate and sell things for less than any individual
> > could make the first one.  People could start with plans for a cheap
> > room, and graduate to more and more screened and clear panels as desired
> > over time.  If we are using the room, I would guess we would spring for
> > more expensive and versatile panels.
> >
> > What is a fair royalty for using Stan's concept?  How do we pay him?
> > This will, of course, be honor system.
> >
> > Bill Effros
> >
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