[Rhodes22-list] Seaworthy

Tue Feb 28 18:30:35 EST 2006

Yes we rented an EPIRB last year, I can't remember cost and of course we 
never used it. :-)

Wally

>From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Seaworthy
>Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:58:43 -0500
>
>Speaking of US boats, don't they have EPIRBs that you can borrow or rent?  
>I
>seem to recall someone's life being saved because they had acquired a 
>loaner
>from US Boats prior to an offshore adventure.  Seems like something to 
>check
>into before any potentially hazardous passage. - Rob
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:47 AM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Seaworthy
>
>
> > Bud,
> >
> > Is that the one written about Boat US insurance claims?
> >
> > PT
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <budconnor at earthlink.net>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Instrumentation
> >
> >
> > > Pete,
> > >    I read your posting on the 38' Carolina and both links on the
>accident.
> > > Thanks for posting as your messages have not gone un-noticed.  I am
> > > currently reading a book called Seaworthy which discribes both power 
>and
> > > sailboat mishaps.  I am amazed at how quick and easy it is to go from
> > > a pleasant day on the water to tragedy.
> > >
> > > -Bud Connor
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
> > > >Sent: Feb 28, 2006 7:18 AM
> > > >To: Rhodes 22 List Members <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Instrumentation
> > > >
> > > >Dave,
> > > >
> > > >Last week I posted a few articles about a new 38' Carolina Classic
>sport
> > > >fisherman boat that sank recently while en route from Edenton to the
> > Miami
> > > >boat show.  It seems no one on the list took much notice, but this
>event
> > has
> > > >intrigued me since I first read about it.   It turns out the Captain
>was
> > 78
> > > >years old and evidently experienced.  His mate was 55 and not much 
>was
> > > >written about him.  Both died of hypothermia resulting from exposure 
>to
> > cold
> > > >water when the new boat they were delivering sank in 18' of water,
>about
> > 5
> > > >miles from Oriental, NC  near Garbacon shoals.
> > > >
> > > >Last Friday I helped my buddy Lawrence deliver his Tanzer 26 from
> > Oriental
> > > >to New Bern to prepare for a race last Saturday.  As is our custom, 
>we
> > ate
> > > >lunch at M&Ms Restaurant before departing  and happened to sit at the
>bar
> > > >next to Captain Larry Walker (who teaches the Captain's courses in
> > > >Oriental).  We engaged in a discussion about the accident -- it has
>been
> > the
> > > >talk of the town since it happened.
> > > >
> > > >Captain Walker made some excellent points I feel are worth sharing.
> > First,
> > > >if the lost souls had contacted the Coast Guard, they would doubtless
>be
> > > >alive today.  They only had 5 watt hand-held radios with them, which 
>in
> > 3-4'
> > > >waves may not have been able to transmit that far.  The investigation
> > > >revealed that other hand helds at that location could not raise the
>Coast
> > > >Guard either.   VHF is line of sight and it was blowing 30 that day.
>A
> > > >fixed mount VHF on a sailboat is a big advantage worth acquiring: 25
> > watts
> > > >of power and 30' of  antenna elevation.  The higher the antenna, the
> > longer
> > > >the range.
> > > >
> > > >Captain Walker strongly suggested an EPIRB (Emergency Position
>Indicating
> > > >Radio Beacon).
> > > 
> >http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|344|302025|320637&id=99121
> > This
> > > >is a small expensive device that sends a signal up to a satellite and
>on
> > to
> > > >the Coast Guard, telling them you need help.  You just throw it in 
>the
> > water
> > > >and it automatically goes to work saving your life.  Don't buy an 
>EPIRB
> > > >without the built-in GPS feature.  The GPS EPIRB transmits the 
>location
> > of
> > > >the EPIRB to the Coast Guard.  This can save lots of time they would
> > > >otherwise waste on triangulation.  When hypothermia is involved 
>minutes
> > can
> > > >be life and death.
> > > >
> > > >There are now fixed VHF sets available that connect with your GPS and
> > have
> > > >an emergency switch that will transmit your position to nearby 
>vessels
> > with
> > > >similar equipment and to the Coast Guard.  (The Uniden UM 525 is one
> > > >example, on sale now at Defender for $150.)  Evidently, Channel 70 is
> > soon
> > > >to be the new emergency channel and these are set up for that too.
>These
> > > >radios are much less expensive and for coastal sailing may be a
> > reasonable
> > > >compromise.  However, if the cockpit fills with water and the
>electrical
> > > >system shorts out the radio may not be much good and you may wish for
>an
> > > >EPIRB.
> > > >
> > > >If you are still deciding how to spend money on your new Rhodes, you
> > might
> > > >want to consider some of these equipment choices.  I hope you never
>have
> > the
> > > >need to use them.
> > > >
> > > >PT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: <DCLewis1 at aol.com>
> > > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:12 AM
> > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Instrumentation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Folks,
> > > >
> > > >We are in the midst of trying to get our R22 equipped while it?s 
>still
>at
> > > >GBI and the matter of instrumentation has come up.   The purpose of
>this
> > > >Email
> > > >is to solicit input regarding what works.
> > > >
> > > >Our current plan is to have a depth finder (Humminbird Mk17?) and
> > bulkhead
> > > >compass mounted on the exterior cabin wall.  Questions:
> > > >- Both  instruments seem to me to be far from the tiller.  In your
> > > >experience
> > > >can  you meaningfully use instruments mounted on the cabin (I realize
> > this
> > > >may be a  function of your farsightedness, but any input is 
>welcome.).
> > In
> > > >particular, would a hand held compass be more useful than a bulkhead
> > > >compass?
> > > >If you like a bulkhead compass, any specific recommendations  
>regarding
> > > >models
> > > >and types?
> > > >- If these instruments are mounted  on the exterior, how do you keep
>them
> > > >from walking away?  Has anyone had a  problem in this regard?
> > > >- I understand the Mk17 has a bezel that facilitates  mounting.  I 
>also
> > > >think
> > > >the Mk17 has a 1 year warranty that the display  will be waterproof.
>But
> > > >for
> > > >the long term, how do you keep the Humminbird  (or any other) depth
> > > >finder/GPS display secured and out of the weather when the  boat?s
> > secured?
> > > >I haven?t
> > > >identified a cap that would keep the sun and  precip off it and/or
>secure
> > it
> > > >- have I missed something?  I gather there  are a number of 
>Humminbird
> > users
> > > >on the board, what do you do?  I believe  there are caps for bulkhead
> > > >compasses, that protect them from the weather, and  provide some
> > security,
> > > >it that what
> > > >you use?
> > > >
> > > >I?m inclined to use a hand held GPS, just because it will be closer 
>to
> > me.
> > > >Also, it will be easily secured and I can take it home to program way
> > > >points
> > > >etc.  The same GPS could act as a compass.  The alternative is  to 
>use
> > the
> > > >Humminbird depth finder with a GPS driver - they make one - or  
>another
> > > >bulkhead
> > > >mounted GPS system.  The Humminbird will have a larger  display, but 
>at
> > the
> > > >front of the cockpit.  Again, I?m not sure the  Humminbird can be
>secured
> > or
> > > >kept out of the weather, and I don?t think it will  be a simple 
>matter
>to
> > > >take it
> > > >home to program a course, way points, etc.   Has anyone considered
>these
> > > >trades and come to a decision as to the way to  proceed.  Better yet,
> > does
> > > >anyone
> > > >have experience with hand held vice  bulkhead mounted GPS displays.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for any input.
> > > >
> > > >Dave
> > > >
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