[Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 795, Issue 1

Slim salm at mn.rr.com
Sun Jan 8 03:00:16 EST 2006


Please excuse me--I meant to send that last message back-channel to Michael.

I know that you all know that I was just trying to amuse y'all with my usual
junk, but then along comes this guy who's decided to slander me on the
internet for stuff that has nothing to do with me. This is not OK and I want
MJM to just make it go away.

Slim

On 1/8/06 2:16 AM, "Slim" <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:

> Yikes!  The guy's bipolar/OCD.  (obsessive, compulsive disorder)
> Not fun anymore.  MJM--Get him off me!
> 
> On 1/7/06 4:53 PM, "Michel Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> 
>> Holy sh-t, the guys now created a web site
>> http://www.pakin.org/complaint?title=&firstname=Slim&gender=m&shorttype=
>> f&pgraphs=3
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 5:46 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 795, Issue
>> 1
>>> 
>>> Looks like a complaint generator to me...and if it's not, it shouldn't
>>> take more than 15 minutes to knock out all the variables and insert
>> new
>>> ones.
>>> 
>>> Bill Effros
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michel Meltzer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I can not believe it, I got this letter complaining about Slim :-)
>> see
>>>> below, Some about "customer support"....................
>>>> 
>>>> -MJM
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Slim's pronouncements are entirely disgusting -- so much so, that if
>>>> there are any children or sensitive people reading this letter, I
>>>> suggest that they stop now and not read what I am about to describe.
>>>> Here's a quick review: I'd advise Slim to stop being so froward.
>> Sadly,
>>>> lack of space prevents me from elaborating further. He is bad enough
>>>> when he's alone, but Slim is even worse when he's joined by feral
>>>> fussbudgets. Daily, the truth is being impressed upon us that I am
>> not
>>>> up on the latest gossip. Still, I have heard people say that it is
>> more
>>>> than a purely historical question to ask, "How did his reign of
>> terror
>>>> start?" or even the more urgent question, "How might it end?". No, we
>>>> must ask, "Why doesn't he reveal the truth about himself?" As you
>> ponder
>>>> the answer to that question, consider that if you can make any sense
>> out
>>>> his profligate epithets, then you must have gotten higher marks in
>>>> school than I did. Above all, Slim has no evidence or examples to
>> back
>>>> up his point.
>>>> 
>>>> Slim's ramblings can be subtle. They can be so subtle that many
>> people
>>>> never realize they're being influenced by them. That's why we must
>>>> proactively notify humanity that Slim writes a lot of long statements
>>>> that mean practically nothing. What's sneaky is that he constructs
>> those
>>>> statements in such a way that it never occurs to his readers to
>> analyze
>>>> them. Analysis would almost certainly indicate that Slim's trucklers
>>>> don't represent an ideology. They don't represent a legitimate
>> political
>>>> group of people. They're just flat inaniloquent. Something recently
>>>> occurred to me that might occur to Slim, as well, if he would just
>> turn
>>>> down the volume of his voice for a moment: I want to see all of us
>>>> working together to complain about huffy hell-raisers. Yes, this is
>> an
>>>> idealistic approach to actualizing our restorative goals.
>> Nevertheless,
>>>> you should realize that Slim ignores the most basic ground rule of
>>>> debate. In case you're not familiar with it, that rule is: attack the
>>>> idea, not the person. As stated earlier, he says that his decisions
>> are
>>>> based on reason. What balderdash! What impudence! What treachery!
>> This
>>>> is a free country, and I feel we ought to keep it that way. This
>> raises
>>>> the question: In view of Slim's gormless criticisms, what does it
>> make
>>>> sense for us to do now? The answer should be self-evident, so let me
>>>> just point out that Slim claims that individual worth is defined by
>>>> race, ethnicity, religion, or national origin. I respond that there
>> are
>>>> lessons to be learned from history.
>>>> 
>>>> Now, why all this fuss about a few insolent agendas? Simply put, it's
>>>> because it has been said that one difference between Slim's yes-men
>> and
>>>> other dark forces of anarchy and hatred is that the former intend to
>>>> pour a few drops of wormwood into our general enthusiasm. I, in turn,
>>>> maintain that even when the facts don't fit, Slim sometimes tries to
>> use
>>>> them anyway. He still maintains, for instance, that my bitterness at
>> him
>>>> is merely the latent projection of libidinal energy stemming from
>>>> self-induced anguish. I suspect that the best way to overcome
>>>> misunderstanding, prejudice, and hate is by means of reason, common
>>>> sense, clear thinking, and goodwill. Slim, in contrast, believes that
>>>> the sun rises just for him. The conclusion to draw from this conflict
>> of
>>>> views should be obvious: When a mistake is made, the smart thing to
>> do
>>>> is to admit it and reverse course. That takes real courage. The way
>> that
>>>> Slim stubbornly refuses to own up to his mistakes serves only to
>>>> convince me that he says that everyone would be a lot safer if he
>> were
>>>> to monitor all of our personal communications and financial
>> transactions
>>>> -- even our library records. Why on Earth does he need to monitor our
>>>> library records? You see, he labels anyone he doesn't like as
>>>> "incontinent". That might well be a better description of Slim.
>>>> 
>>>> Slim has, at times, called me "unenlightened" or "insipid". Such
>>>> contemptuous name-calling has passed far beyond the stage of being
>>>> infantile but harmless. It has the capacity to make a mockery of our
>>>> most fundamentally held beliefs. Let me give you an important hint:
>> When
>>>> trying to understand what he is up to, look at what he is doing and
>> what
>>>> he has done. Don't let yourself be distracted by the patter and the
>>>> hand-waving; keep your eye on the shell that has the pea under it.
>> And
>>>> focus your mind on the fact that those of us who are still sane,
>> those
>>>> of us who still have a firm grip on reality, those of us who still
>>>> assert that mankind, with all of its accumulated knowledge, wonderful
>>>> machines, scientific methods, and material power, still has much to
>> fear
>>>> from lecherous trolls like him, have an obligation to do more than
>> just
>>>> observe what he is doing from a safe distance. We have an obligation
>> to
>>>> upbraid him for being so sadistic. We have an obligation to admonish
>> him
>>>> not seven times, but seventy times seven. And we have an obligation
>> to
>>>> beat him at his own game.
>>>> 
>>>> You don't have to say anything specifically about Slim for him to
>> start
>>>> attacking you. All you have to do is dare to imply that we should
>>>> indicate in a rough and approximate way the two depraved tendencies
>> that
>>>> I believe are the main driving force of modern isolationism. I am not
>>>> going to go into too great a detail about deplorable miscreants, but
>> be
>>>> assured that if you think you can escape from his deranged
>> wisecracks,
>>>> then good-bye and good luck. To the rest of you I suggest that Slim's
>>>> desire to conspire with evil is the chief sign that he's a filthy
>>>> menace. (The second sign is that Slim feels obliged to rule with an
>> iron
>>>> fist.) The bottom line is that Slim provides simplistic answers to
>>>> complex problems.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>>>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert Skinner
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:28 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 795,
>> Issue
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 1
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Slim,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know it's a foreign concept for someone lucky enough to be using
>> the
>>>>> relatively stable Apple operating systems, but you did forget to
>> tell
>>>>> him to change his internet parameters and reboot his machine.  Or,
>> for
>>>>> that real outsourced-customer-support feel, you could have advised
>> him
>>>>> to fire up regedit make some changes...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Carry on!
>>>>> 
>>>>> /Bob
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