[Rhodes22-list] Florida Boat Rental List

Tue Jan 10 22:47:32 EST 2006

Thanks Bob,

You're on the list:

Bob Dobson
Bob and Kathy Quinn
Herb
Bob Weber
Slim
Chris
Bill Effros
Bill W.
Brad
Brad's Friend Ken
Jerry Lowe

Bill Effros

Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
   Sorry I have not kept the running list, but here is part of it from 
memory:

I'm sure there were more, but I don't have the time to go back through
the files, so if you want to be added to this list, just reply again to
this post and ask to be added. This time around I will maintain the
running total.

There is no commitment on either side, it's just sort of a straw poll,
and if it can be put together the people who show interest first will be
given first shot at dates.

The idea has evolved to this: Stan has extra boats, and often tows one
to Florida for the boat show. People in northern climes dream of
sailing at about the same time General Boats has a boat available in
Miami. Maybe General Boats could make some extra pocket change by
allowing people to rent the boat already there at an extremely
attractive rate, possibly resulting in the sale of a clean used boat to
someone who would not be able to afford a more expensive boat...

Something like that.

Sorry if I forgot your earlier support, just post again...

Bill Effros

Robert Quinn wrote:

> Interested.
>
> Bob and Kathy on the "NoKaOi"
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Geankoplis" 
> 
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)
>
>
>> Me Too
>>
>> Chris G
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Weber" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:18 AM
>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)
>>
>>
>>> Mark me as "Very Interested" as well. BW
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: "Herb Parsons" 
>>> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
>>> >To: 
>>> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)
>>> >Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:59:47 -0600
>>> >
>>> >OK. Sometimes I just loose track of things. Please keep me marked as
>>> >"interested"
>>> >
>>> >Herb Parsons
>>> >
>>> >S/V O'Jure
>>> >1976 O'Day 25
>>> >Lake Grapevine, N TX
>>> >
>>> >S/V Reve de Papa
>>> >1971 Coronado 35
>>> >Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >>> bill at effros.com 1/7/2006 12:07:54 pm >>>
>>> >Herb,
>>> >
>>> >There was enough interest to indicate it might be possible, but not
>>> >enough interest to do it with the boat that was sitting in Melbourne.
>>> >Michael is suggesting an alternate approach that could work if it 
>>> can be
>>> >made to pay for General Boats. It seems to me a Demo boat in Miami in
>>> >the winter months has a lot of potential for GB, and that those
>>> >interested in the idea could grab some sail time in the middle of the
>>> >winter at reasonable rates that would more than pay for GB.
>>> >
>>> >First, we've got to find out if Elton is still talking to us, and then
>>> >if it has left such a bad taste in his mouth that he doesn't want
>>> >anything to do with this idea ever again, since we got him into 
>>> this in
>>> >the first place.
>>> >
>>> >Bill Effros
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Herb Parsons wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >I thought the FL Syndicate idea was dead. I guess I've missed 
>>> some of
>>
>> the
>>
>>> >info. Is it still in the "trying to figure out details" stage?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >Herb Parsons
>>> > >
>>> > >S/V O'Jure
>>> > >1976 O'Day 25
>>> > >Lake Grapevine, N TX
>>> > >
>>> > >S/V Reve de Papa
>>> > >1971 Coronado 35
>>> > >Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >>>>bill at effros.com 1/7/2006 10:50:45 am >>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >Michael,
>>> > >
>>> > >I think the Florida Syndicate II idea may have a lot of merit. 
>>> If GB
>>
>> is
>>
>>> > >still going to the Miami Boat Show, they could move a boat down 
>>> there
>>> > >early, rent it out around the boat show, and take it back with 
>>> them > >(or
>>> > >sell it). This would be a win for everyone.
>>> > >
>>> > >Bill Effros
>>> > >
>>> > >Michel Meltzer wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >>It the "friction" that goes with one of these, worst yet, it 
>>> only the
>>> > >>starting of the saga. The issues are not so much cash, but the 
>>> time > >>is
>>> > >>would "suck" down. Something tells me, the boat fate is more 
>>> tied to
>>
>> the
>>
>>> > >>shape of the interior, stans 30 year old spare parts bin will 
>>> help a
>>> > >>lot, paint the hull and fix the glass work are simple(even hull
>>
>> damage).
>>
>>> > >>If the interior is shot from the water, well that is a lot of
>>> > >>labor......................
>>> > >>
>>> > >>-mjm
>>> > >>
>>> > >>I have an Idea for "FA Syndicate II", see if there is interest 
>>> for a
>>> > >>in FA for a few month period, like Dec to March, book some soild
>>
>> blocks
>>
>>> > >>of time, have stan move on of the demo boat down their for the > 
>>> >>period.
>>> > >>-mjm
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>>-----Original Message-----
>>> > >>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>> > >>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>> > >>>Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:17 PM
>>> > >>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A story of a boat
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Michael,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>I'm glad I listened to you.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Bill Effros
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>>Just got a phone call, A boat story just came up :-)
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>Some one we all known just arrived in FA today.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>Get to the boat yard about 3pm.
>>> > >>>>They down not have a boat lift.
>>> > >>>>They do have a forklift, but the tongs do not say up(some 
>>> about the
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>oil
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>>>get hot and it lowers on it own).
>>> > >>>>This is not a boat yard, more a storage place, people are not 
>>> use > >>>>to
>>> > >>>>dealing with boats, a "boat" load of insurance damaged boats 
>>> piled
>>> > >>>>their. The seller is in RI and these guys are in FA.
>>> > >>>>The are boat on eitherside so the forklift can not get in.
>>> > >>>>After some harang the boat next to it was able to be moved. The
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>trailer
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>>>did not fall apart :-)
>>> > >>>>The forklift can not get under the rhodes (not sure why).
>>> > >>>>Someone we know is think quick :-)
>>> > >>>>He looks around the place an finds a long length of rope, 1 
>>> 1/2 > >>>>inch
>>> > >>>>that look like it from 1900, smells like it from 1900, and is 
>>> > >>>>fraded
>>> > >>>>like it from 1900, but figures that will do.
>>> > >>>>The bow eye is loose, can no do the Standard 3 point GB lift.
>>> > >>>>The boat is full of water. Over weight(as in tons), will crush 
>>> the
>>> > >>>>trailer and the "flackly" forklift is not helping with it self 
>>> > >>>>lower
>>> > >>>>forks, can not get his knife to cut the lazerret hoose.
>>> > >>>>Drill time, Goes to the store to buy a drill, but there is a
>>
>> problem,
>>
>>> > >>>>the new drill has an empty battery. Go to customer services 
>>> and > >>>>tell
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>the
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>>>girl he has a big problem(look on face time), after a second it
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>plugged
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>>>in and he is killing time.
>>> > >>>>Go back to boat, it peeing.......... and getting dark...........
>>> > >>>>Forklift guy bring in some friend, they rig the boat with rope 
>>> from
>>> > >>>>hell, and the get the boat onto the trailer.
>>> > >>>>Their no back rail so has to build something to support the mast,
>>
>> and
>>
>>> > >>>>tie down the loose stuff.
>>> > >>>>Loose bow eye mean he needs to but some straps and strap the boat
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>down,
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>>>6 hours later he still working on it and
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>hungry.......................
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>>>Boat in wrought shape but Stan should be able to bring it back to
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>life.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>>>All the new that fit to print -mjm
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
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>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Elton is on his way to Florida to pick up the boat. (I think.)
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Bill Effros
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>>Way not make a deal with stan, let him get it for what you payied
>>
>> for
>>
>>> > >>>>it(could even trade for work on your own boat), have Elton 
>>> pick it
>>
>> up
>>
>>> > >>>>and you are done. KISS -mjm
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>> > >>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>> > >>>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>> > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:31 PM
>>> > >>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > >>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florida Syndicate--2006
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>Sorry Luis,
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>No, it didn't go back channel, it's just that no one had time 
>>> for
>>
>> it.
>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>Brad punted--he totally ran out of time to deal with the boat on
>>
>> any
>>
>>> > >>>>>level. I bought it from him, but have had no time to follow up.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>There
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>>wasn't enough commitment in the Syndicate to justify setting it
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>up--the
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>>business model wasn't going to work.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>I am open to ideas regarding what to do with it now. I still 
>>> plan
>>
>> to
>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>be
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>>in Florida in roughly a month, and will deal with it then, if 
>>> I'm
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>unable
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>>to work something out before then.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>I have been contacted back channel, but I would sooner do
>>
>> everything
>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>on
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>>the list, so everyone has a fair shot, and everyone sees what is
>>> > >>>>>happening.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>Bill Effros
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>Luis Guzman wrote:
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>Happy New Year to all rhodies.
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>I spent the first day of the year sailing on a 23' Stiletto
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>Catamaran.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>>Wow, what a ride.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>We were crusing at 14 knots and at a point we reached 17 knots.
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>We met two other stilettos and raced (flew) accross the bay. 
>>> Then
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>we
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>>all rafted together for lunch and drinks. After all the food was
>>> >gone,
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>we
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>>raced again.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>It was great way to start the year.
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>Luis
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>S/V PARADISE
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>P.S. What ever happened to Brad's ebay boat and to the 
>>> syndicate?
>>> > >>>>>>Is the syndicate talking offline?
>>> > >>>>>>
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>>> > >>>>>>
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