[Rhodes22-list] Reduce your federal income tax (political humor)

[stan]

need a break .....

Milt Friedman, the Republican Chicago Nobel prize winner for economics says 
that we have to look at the entire world as one economy.  If other parts of 
the world can turn out products that are better and for less money than we 
can, we should not fight this turn of events with tariffs or rhetoric, we 
should just go ahead and buy their labor and products and benefit with the 
higher standard of living they are creating for us.  If we turn out to be 
the best body parts suppliers as the result of our superiority in stem cell 
research (or future success with stem cells when we take religion out of 
government) then we will be making money raising their standard of living. 
If we ever get our leadership screwed on right we can be supplying the world 
with cheap transportation to the stars and alternate superior energy systems 
on earth.  There are endless unimagined enterprises we could cash in on if 
we could redirect our focus from fear and redirect our energies and natural 
and human wealth into more productive adventures.  (Kennedy was partially on 
target - too bad we shot him.)

Join the EC party  (of course, as that other wise guy said, "I may not get 
there with you ...")

stan/EC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reduce your federal income tax (political 
humor)


> Gregg,
>
> They got Wal-Mart the same way, but it's like spitting in the ocean.
> It's not that I'm "for" or "against" anything.  It's just that when I try 
> to protect my neighbors they show up with "Independent Contractors", and 
> when I hire them directly they do a great job.  My Colombian cleaning lady 
> not only has a green card, she's a citizen and she votes.  Her kids were 
> both born in the United States, and speak perfect kid English.  But her 
> husband isn't a citizen and doesn't work a whole lot.  I have never met 
> him, I know he can't speak a word of English, and I would be surprised to 
> learn he is here legally.
>
> Of course, she can and does plug us into a great South American network of 
> independent contractors.
>
> So what's the right thing to do?
>
> Should her kids be American citizens, or not?  Should they be entitled to 
> go to our schools?
>
> I'm not sure they will be able to work any better than our kids work. 
> Those lawn guys do a better job than we did as kids.  The Korean manicure 
> women make our wives feel like queens for an hour at a price they can 
> afford.  The Greek diner guys serve a million dishes well.  The Asian 
> Green Grocers sell better produce at a better price than Whole Foods.
>
> I can understand Xenophobia, and I can get sucked into it, but when I step 
> back from it, and acknowledge that all of us ultimately came from 
> somewhere else, I can't quite figure out what's the right thing to do now.
>
> Bill Effros
>
> Gregg J. MacMillan wrote:
>> At 11:59 AM -0400 6/28/06, Bill Effros wrote:
>>> The alternative is for the local contractors to hire "Independent 
>>> Contractors".
>>
>> In the Cincinnati Fischer Homes case, neither the company nor the 
>> individuals were charged with employing illegals....they were charged 
>> with knowingly using subcontractors that were employing illegals. They 
>> (the feds) got this information by interviewing (while secretly being 
>> wired and recording the conversations) upper management at Fisher under 
>> the guise of investigating criminal activity involving immigrants.
>>
>> At 11:59 AM -0400 6/28/06, Bill Effros wrote:
>>> Our kids don't know how to work.  They were born rich compared to the 
>>> rest of the world, and they believe they are entitled to stay rich 
>>> without ever having to work up a sweat.  One way or another, these 
>>> foreigner born people are going to eat our kids' lunch.
>>
>> Couldn't agree with you more (except for my kids of course :-)). I happen 
>> to live in the same neighborhood where I grew up. As kids, we and all our 
>> friends cut the grass and took care of the yards. When our kids were 
>> growing up, they were about the last kids in the neighborhood that were 
>> made to cut the grass and take care of the yard. Now, when I go home 
>> during the day, I can barely get thru the streets because of all the 
>> "lawn maintenance company" vehicles, trailers, etc. parked in the 
>> streets. I can't remember the last time I saw a kid cutting the grass in 
>> our neighborhood. Of course, that's only one small example.
>>
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