[Rhodes22-list] Reduce your federal income tax (political humor)
TN Rhodey
tnrhodey at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 29 15:10:26 EDT 2006
The Braille is not available on touch screen. Did you ever notice the little
bumps on the old style ATMS (non touch scree)? It is Braille. Many elevators
have same.
Wally
>From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
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>humor)
>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:11:37 -0400
>
>Todd,
>
>How do you conduct a transaction on a flat screen (CRT or LCD) in Braille?
>
>Mike
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
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>Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reduce your federal income tax (political
>humor)
>
>
>Brad,
>
>It really pisses me off when I pull up to a drive-up ATM and I have to
>choose between the instructions written in English and the instructions
>written in braille.
>
>Todd T.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Haslett"
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reduce your federal income tax
> (political humor)
> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:13:23 -0500
>
>
> Bill,
>
> It pisses me off every time I go to an ATM or call a phone tree and
> it asks
> whether I want English or Spanish. That being said, most cabbies in
> Beijing
> are torqued over having to learn english for the 2008 Olympics. Here
> is an
> interesting perspective on native language. BTW, I've ordered the
> Spanish
> for Contractors CD for the boys on the beach.
>
> Brad
>
> ------------------
>
>
> May 30, 2006
> My History of English-Only*By* *Richard
> Cohen*
>
> To understand something of the current immigration debate, it might
> help to
> look at New York's Lower East Side in the early 1900s through the
> eyes of
> Henry Adams, the great-grandson of one president, the grandson of
> another,
> ambassador to Britain and, toward the end of his life, winner of the
> Pulitzer Prize for his autobiography. All those Jews sickened him.
>
> "God tried drowning out the world once,'' he wrote in a 1906 letter,
> ``but
> it did no kind of good, and there are said to be 450,000 Jews now
> doing
> Kosher in New York alone. God himself owned failure.''
>
> One of those "doing Kosher'' at that time was my grandfather, Rueben,
> a
> part-time garment worker and full-time no-goodnick who placed his two
> boys
> in an orphanage when his wife, Judith, died. When he came to visit,
> the
> older boy had to translate for the younger. My grandfather never
> spoke
> English and my father never spoke anything but.
>
> You can understand Adams' distress. The Lower East Side of Manhattan
> was an
> alien place. Its denizens spoke Yiddish. They were not Christians.
> They had
> their own newspapers and theaters and political organizations and
> when they
> rallied for one cause or another -- and boy, did they ever rally --
> the
> calls for reform or revolution were uttered in a foreign tongue. This
> pot
> was not melting.
>
> Now, of course, the Lower East Side is the East Village and it is
> cool and
> hip and young and expensive. The grandchildren of those who did
> Kosher there
> have scattered throughout the country and the English their
> grandparents did
> not speak has been mastered and enriched by Bellow and Roth and
> Chabon and
> Ephron, not to mention Irving Berlin, if you are that old, or Jon
> Stewart,
> if you can stay up that late.
>
> The current immigration fuss has engendered more sloppy thinking and
> rhetoric than any issue in recent times. The descendants of
> immigrants wax
> romantic, confusing legal and illegal immigration -- it's all the
> same. But
> it is not. My grandparents were legal immigrants. They came through
> Ellis
> Island, papers in hand. It was easier to do so then, but that is not
> the
> point. The point is that they broke no law and, as a consequence,
> sought no
> amnesty.
>
> But this anxiety about the fate of English and its importance to the
> culture
> does have its antecedents, although they are not, of course, exact.
> The
> non-English-speaking immigrants of the 19th and earlier centuries
> could not
> simply get on an airplane and return to the mother country for a
> visit. Once
> they came to America, they usually stayed in America. This is not
> necessarily true of Spanish-speakers, who can more easily visit
> Mexico or
> another Latin American country. Still, the larger culture remains
> English-speaking and its pull is like an ocean tide. It may take a
> while,
> but it will get its way.
>
> In Los Angeles, for instance, radio station KDL shifted in 2003 from
> Spanish
> to English because the Latino audience it wanted -- the young -- was
> increasingly bilingual and what's called "English dominant.'' English
> was
> cooler, hipper and younger, younger, younger. Spanish was the
> language of
> mom and dad, and nothing could be fustier -- or, in some cases,
> embarrassing. The latter is why, to my regret, I peevishly ignored my
> Yiddish-speaking grandmother, adamantly insisting she speak English
> instead.
> I thought I was being very patriotic.
>
> In New York City, the library system of a single borough, Queens,
> typically
> has the highest circulation of any in the country. That's not because
> the
> culturally ravenous Jews of myth and fact are continuing their
> reading
> habits, but because of a much newer influx of Asians. Many of them
> read
> exclusively in their native language, some in two and some, sooner or
> later,
> in English only. The richness of Shakespeare's tongue, its
> universality in
> commerce and business and, above all, in entertainment, makes it
> unavoidable. Few things in life are certain, but death, taxes and
> English
> certainly are.
>
> It's reasonable, I suppose, to insist on English-sufficiency for
> citizenship
> or, even, for a driver's license. But the nation's so-called
> "political
> conversation'' can be conducted in any language -- just as long as
> it's
> conducted. The Jews, the Italians, the Chinese, the Russians, the
> Germans
> and all the other ethnic groups who once lived cheek by jowl in
> Manhattan
> had a vibrant press and raised the roof with their political
> conversation.
> Now their descendants rue, as I do, the virtual loss of a tongue.
> Henry
> Adams need not have feared. I can read him but not the contemporaries
> he so
> reviled.
> mailto: cohenr at washpost.com < cohenr at washpost.com>* *
>
> (c) 2006, Washington Post Writers Group
> On 6/27/06, Bill Effros wrote:
> >
> > Herb,
> >
> > Clinton forced these people to make the desert crossings. Prior to
> that
> > they would have "stampedes" where literally hundreds of people
> would
> > literally overrun border crossings. A dozen might get caught, but
> the
> > other 488 would be home free all. There were cars, buses, minivans,
> > waiting to take them further away right on our side of the border.
> We
> > built fences in the easy places, forcing them to now cross in the
> harder
> > places. Crossing was a piece of cake. If you didn't make it in the
> > morning, you could count on getting through in the afternoon. They
> > would commute back and forth across the border.
> >
> > It's harder now. We didn't used to have 100s of people dying in the
> > desert every year because they didn't have to cross over the
> desert.
> >
> > There are more foreign born workers currently in the United States
> than
> > there are Iraqis in Iraq. Rounding them all up and throwing them
> out of
> > here is not practical--even Bush understands that.
> >
> > I'm not "for" "amnesty". I'm not really "for" anything. I know what
> > you're against. What are you "for"?
> >
> > Bill Effros
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Herb Parsons wrote:
> > > Sorry Bill, but you don't know what you're talking about on this
> one.
> > Border crossings have been unbelievably easy for years. We taught
> them all
> > well in our last "amnesty" program. Bring your families, you stand
> a better
> > chance of being allowed to stay.
> > >
> > > Where have you gotten the idea that border crossings have been
> more
> > difficult (except for the past few weeks, of course)?
> > >
> > > Herb Parsons
> > >
> > > S/V O'Jure
> > > 1976 O'Day 25
> > > Lake Grapevine, N TX
> > >
> > > S/V Reve de Papa
> > > 1971 Coronado 35
> > > Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
> > >
> > >
> > >>>> bill at effros.com 6/27/2006 3:16:16 pm >>>
> > >>>>
> > > Dave,
> > >
> > > Unintended consequences of making border crossings more
> difficult. They
> > > used to leave their families behind and return home during the
> off
> > > season. Now that we have made border crossing more difficult,
> they are
> > > bringing their families along with them, and staying North of the
> > border.
> > >
> > > Bill Effros
> > >
> > > DCLewis1 at aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > >> Luis, PT, & Brad,
> > >>
> > >> This is interesting. Seems to me that if the IRS has issued an
> > ITIN for
> > >> legal and illegal aliens, and the govt also has a summary of
> > green cards/work
> > >> permits/whatever they should be able to identify illegals
> > pretty easily. I
> > >> wonder what the problem is? Or maybe, as PT suggests, the govt
> really
> > doesn't
> > >> care - just send $.
> > >>
> > >> Re Brad's dreams: I think I understand what he's trying to
> convey.
> > These
> > >> guys are reported to be very hard working and conscientious.
> I've met
> > some
> > >> and they seem like good people. But there's another side to
> > the problem that
> > >> he may not have observed. Some years ago my wife and I were
> foster
> > parents
> > >> for several years, as a foster parent you take kids into your
> house
> > until the
> > >> adult parents can get their lives squared away. Over a period of
> time
> > you see
> > >> a number of "families" and kids. We've encountered what I'm sure
> are
> > >> illegal aliens - ladies (kids are invariably tied to the women)
> who
> > came north
> > >> because there are better social services and physical
> infrastructure (
> > e.g.
> > >> indoor plumbing) and a government that will not ask questions.
> The
> > ladies
> > >> relating to foster care may have a variety of children - I'm
> told that
> > large
> > >> families are a cultural thing. Some may work at regular jobs,
> but the
> > ones we know
> > >> don't, they subsist on the shadow economy or mooch off one of
> the hard
> > >> working guys Brad dreams about, or both. To an overwhelming
> extent,
> > they subsist
> > >> on the illegal cash economy PT refers to. These ladies, and
> > especially their
> > >> numerous children, are a substantial burden (i.e. cost) to the
> social
> > >> infrastructure. For example, as I recall, in Washington it costs
> > about
> > >> $12k/yr/student to support the public schools - we know one lady
> with
> > 5 kids and has
> > >> not held a regular job as long as we've known her; there's no
> way at
> > all that
> > >> lady makes any meaningful contribution to the support the
> education of
> > her
> > >> kids - or anything else. I really doubt the ones I know of have
> ever
> > paid any
> > >> taxes, all their work is in the shadow economy (i.e. selling
> bottled
> > water on
> > >> street corners - turns out you can make a lot of money doing
> that in
> > >> Washington). The social services burden (schools, medical care,
> low
> > income housing,
> > >> police, etc) didn't appear in Brad's dreams, but I think that's
> what's
> > >> driving the reaction to illegal immigration along the border and
> in
> > Calif.
> > >>
> > >> One other insight: the prime driver to admitting illegals
> appears to
> > me that
> > >> they are willing to work very hard and conscientiously at jobs
> many
> > >> Americans disdain. Basically, they are good people and they want
> to
> > be here. But it'
> > >> s important to understand that admitting these people,
> especially the
> > women,
> > >> has long term consequences ; they will have families (large
> families)
> > and
> > >> the children may, or may not, be nearly as motivated as
> > the parent. What I've
> > >> seen is the children of dysfunctional families, really
> matriarchies,
> > >> fitting right into the underclass culture that disdains any hard
> work
> > and/or
> > >> educational achievement. This is going to drive a geometric
> demand
> > for even more
> > >> social services From my perspective, this is not a happy
> prospect.
> > >>
> > >> Dave
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