From bill at effros.com Wed Mar 1 00:01:35 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Wed Mar 1 00:01:41 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Link 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44052AAF.4030200@effros.com> Ditto. Bill Effros William E. Wickman wrote: > I put mine next to the breaker panel above the galley on the starboard side. > > Bill W. > > -------------------------- > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces > Sent: 02/28/2006 07:35 PM > To: "Rhodes 22 List Members" > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Link 10 > > Glacier > Rhodies, > > What's the best spot for a Link 10? Where is/was your Link 10? > > Raven is an '88, so perhaps to the right of the compression post in the > plywood. Better ideas? > > Thanks. > > PT > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From pthorn at nc.rr.com Wed Mar 1 07:13:42 2006 From: pthorn at nc.rr.com (Peter Thorn) Date: Wed Mar 1 07:14:45 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bahamas References: Message-ID: <000901c63d29$95151c60$660fa8c0@dell330> Bill, Yikes -- that could be some serious adventure! Did Chapter 7 in "Sailing Small" inspire you? Take your Bimini for Bimini and watch out for Pirates. May "Land Ho" when you want it to. Good luck! PT ----- Original Message ----- From: "William E. Wickman" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sinking cruiser Peter, Yes, I am planning to go at the end of May. My current plan is to launch in Homestead, FL and position myself for a crossing. If the weather is favorable, I will cross over to Bimini for a few days and then continue on across the Great Bahama Bank to the Berry Islands. I'm allowing two weeks for the whole expedition. If the weather is not favorable, then I'll just hang around the FL Keys. I am really looking forward to the trip as I will be taking my son and it will probably be the last trip before before he heads off to college. I will, of course, take some pictures and let you all know how I and the Rhodes fare. Bill W. -------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces Sent: 02/28/2006 11:43 AM To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sinking cruiser Bill E, The point about the new radios (DSC equipped) is that they will transmit your position, automatically acquired from your GPS, to any other DSC equipped radio and the CG (they are so equipped). Do you see how this could be a BIG time saver in an emergency? Like Ed pointed out, at $150 per radio, this safety feature is within the affordability range of many Rhodies who might someday be glad they have one. I agree EPIRBs are costly. But if you get caught out, what's your life worth? The dead guys had cellphones stowed in their stuff. Bill W, Are you planning on sailing your Rhodes to the Bahamas? PT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sinking cruiser > Peter, > > Here on Long Island Sound everybody has a radio that can hail another > radio, and there are literally thousands of boats out there on > weekends. At my (narrow) end of the Sound, a decent cell phone provides > shore to shore coverage--better as you get farther from shores. Many > carry EPIRBS -- which fall into the water along with everything else and > go off -- CG generally seeks confirmation before responding. Yet people > still die of hypothermia. > > I carry "Space Blankets" -- small Mylar sheets. If my Rhodes "sinks" > and I die, they won't find me floating in the water without a PFD, or in > a cabin full of water with a fixed mount VHF that has shorted out and a > microphone in my hand while I quickly froze to death. > > They will find me wrapped in 2 highly reflective "space blankets", > staying as warm as possible until my last breath. I will have lashed > myself to the cabin rails, and I will be floating high and dry. I will > have my cell phone, my handheld GPS, my handheld VHF, a strobe light, a > small kite, some extra batteries, some emergency food...in a small > waterproof orange floating box where I keep this stuff. That will be > lashed to the cabin top rails also. The boat will be anchored, so if > they find me I'll still be in the same place when they come to get me. > > Depending on how long it takes me to make contact with rescuers, I will > towel dry myself, and change into dry clothes. > > Almost everything on my boat is inside waterproof plastic "ammo boxes" > or clear rafting bags. If the boat goes down, they will be inside--and > they will remain dry. I have a manual bilge pump. I carry epoxy. I > will review these provisions before going out next summer. > > The Rhodes is far more capable as a "lifeboat" than any of these > floating toys people carry on big boats. If mine filled with water I > would first secure it. Then secure me. Then try to contact others. > Then fly my small kite with the long orange tail and the word "HELP!". > Then I would start figuring out what went wrong, and what I could do to > improve my situation. > > Bill Effros > > Peter Thorn wrote: > > Bill, > > > > Hypothermia equipment? Carrying wetsuits or drysuits onboard is an > > excellent idea! Usually this equipment is associated with sailing dinghies > > but, as you say, cold water is cold water. > > > > I beg to differ on the radio. A good radio to report distress and position > > would have saved them. Captain Walker said too many just try to solve the > > problem themselves without first contacting the Coast Guard, reporting > > position and asking CG to stand by. By the time things get complicated it's > > too late. > > > > PT > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Effros" > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:21 AM > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Instrumentation > > > > > > > >> Peter, > >> > >> Funny thing about the list. Sometimes you don't get feedback. But that > >> doesn't mean nobody thought about it. > >> > >> No time then, no time now. > >> > >> Just a few thoughts. > >> > >> 1. You can die of hypothermia in a bathtub. The size of the waters is > >> not the factor. This type of accident can and does happen to pond > >> sailors. A better radio is not the solution. > >> > >> 2. Rescue boats don't show up in time under these kinds of situations. > >> Make a plan for how to save yourself. Easier in a Rhodes which won't > >> sink. People are yelling "May Day" "May Day" into a radio instead of > >> doing things that could actually save their lives. > >> > >> 3. Stay out of cold water. I no longer sail in cold water. I did when > >> I was younger. I stopped when I dumped a sunfish 200 yards off shore > >> late one September, and while I was in the water realized I could die of > >> hypothermia if I was unable to right the boat, and get back to land > >> quickly. I will sail a Rhodes for longer in the season than most other > >> boats, but I will review my hypothermia equipment for next year. > >> > >> 4. Couldn't help but notice the comment about unable to search because > >> the anchor wouldn't hold... Not only do the anchors hold under those > >> conditions, 30 knot winds drive the anchors so deep into the bottom, > >> it's difficult to free them. These guys didn't know how to set an > >> anchor, or didn't have the proper anchor for their waters. Practice > >> next summer. When you start taking on water, know how to set an anchor > >> first. Then start to deal with the water, with the radio, your GPS > >> position, your EPIRB, with the life raft, whatever. You can stabilize > >> your situation in less than a minute if you know how to do it. It's > >> important to know how, and to know that's the first thing you do. > >> > >> 5. Bilge pumps? 'nuff said. > >> > >> Bill Effros > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Peter Thorn wrote: > >> > >>> Dave, > >>> > >>> Last week I posted a few articles about a new 38' Carolina Classic sport > >>> fisherman boat that sank recently while en route from Edenton to the > >>> > > Miami > > > >>> boat show. It seems no one on the list took much notice, but this event > >>> > > has > > > >>> intrigued me since I first read about it. It turns out the Captain was > >>> > > 78 > > > >>> years old and evidently experienced. His mate was 55 and not much was > >>> written about him. Both died of hypothermia resulting from exposure to > >>> > > cold > > > >>> water when the new boat they were delivering sank in 18' of water, about > >>> > > 5 > > > >>> miles from Oriental, NC near Garbacon shoals. > >>> > >>> Last Friday I helped my buddy Lawrence deliver his Tanzer 26 from > >>> > > Oriental > > > >>> to New Bern to prepare for a race last Saturday. As is our custom, we > >>> > > ate > > > >>> lunch at M&Ms Restaurant before departing and happened to sit at the > >>> > > bar > > > >>> next to Captain Larry Walker (who teaches the Captain's courses in > >>> Oriental). We engaged in a discussion about the accident -- it has been > >>> > > the > > > >>> talk of the town since it happened. > >>> > >>> Captain Walker made some excellent points I feel are worth sharing. > >>> > > First, > > > >>> if the lost souls had contacted the Coast Guard, they would doubtless be > >>> alive today. They only had 5 watt hand-held radios with them, which in > >>> > > 3-4' > > > >>> waves may not have been able to transmit that far. The investigation > >>> revealed that other hand helds at that location could not raise the > >>> > > Coast > > > >>> Guard either. VHF is line of sight and it was blowing 30 that day. A > >>> fixed mount VHF on a sailboat is a big advantage worth acquiring: 25 > >>> > > watts > > > >>> of power and 30' of antenna elevation. The higher the antenna, the > >>> > > longer > > > >>> the range. > >>> > >>> Captain Walker strongly suggested an EPIRB (Emergency Position > >>> > > Indicating > > > >>> Radio Beacon). > >>> http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|344|302025|320637&id=99121 > >>> > > This > > > >>> is a small expensive device that sends a signal up to a satellite and on > >>> > > to > > > >>> the Coast Guard, telling them you need help. You just throw it in the > >>> > > water > > > >>> and it automatically goes to work saving your life. Don't buy an EPIRB > >>> without the built-in GPS feature. The GPS EPIRB transmits the location > >>> > > of > > > >>> the EPIRB to the Coast Guard. This can save lots of time they would > >>> otherwise waste on triangulation. When hypothermia is involved minutes > >>> > > can > > > >>> be life and death. > >>> > >>> There are now fixed VHF sets available that connect with your GPS and > >>> > > have > > > >>> an emergency switch that will transmit your position to nearby vessels > >>> > > with > > > >>> similar equipment and to the Coast Guard. (The Uniden UM 525 is one > >>> example, on sale now at Defender for $150.) Evidently, Channel 70 is > >>> > > soon > > > >>> to be the new emergency channel and these are set up for that too. > >>> > > These > > > >>> radios are much less expensive and for coastal sailing may be a > >>> > > reasonable > > > >>> compromise. However, if the cockpit fills with water and the electrical > >>> system shorts out the radio may not be much good and you may wish for an > >>> EPIRB. > >>> > >>> If you are still deciding how to spend money on your new Rhodes, you > >>> > > might > > > >>> want to consider some of these equipment choices. I hope you never have > >>> > > the > > > >>> need to use them. > >>> > >>> PT > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:12 AM > >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Instrumentation > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Folks, > >>> > >>> We are in the midst of trying to get our R22 equipped while it?s still > >>> > > at > > > >>> GBI and the matter of instrumentation has come up. The purpose of > >>> > > this > > > >>> Email > >>> is to solicit input regarding what works. > >>> > >>> Our current plan is to have a depth finder (Humminbird Mk17?) and > >>> > > bulkhead > > > >>> compass mounted on the exterior cabin wall. Questions: > >>> - Both instruments seem to me to be far from the tiller. In your > >>> experience > >>> can you meaningfully use instruments mounted on the cabin (I realize > >>> > > this > > > >>> may be a function of your farsightedness, but any input is welcome.). > >>> > > In > > > >>> particular, would a hand held compass be more useful than a bulkhead > >>> compass? > >>> If you like a bulkhead compass, any specific recommendations regarding > >>> models > >>> and types? > >>> - If these instruments are mounted on the exterior, how do you keep > >>> > > them > > > >>> from walking away? Has anyone had a problem in this regard? > >>> - I understand the Mk17 has a bezel that facilitates mounting. I also > >>> think > >>> the Mk17 has a 1 year warranty that the display will be waterproof. > >>> > > But > > > >>> for > >>> the long term, how do you keep the Humminbird (or any other) depth > >>> finder/GPS display secured and out of the weather when the boat?s > >>> > > secured? > > > >>> I haven?t > >>> identified a cap that would keep the sun and precip off it and/or > >>> > > secure it > > > >>> - have I missed something? I gather there are a number of Humminbird > >>> > > users > > > >>> on the board, what do you do? I believe there are caps for bulkhead > >>> compasses, that protect them from the weather, and provide some > >>> > > security, > > > >>> it that what > >>> you use? > >>> > >>> I?m inclined to use a hand held GPS, just because it will be closer to > >>> > > me. > > > >>> Also, it will be easily secured and I can take it home to program way > >>> points > >>> etc. The same GPS could act as a compass. The alternative is to use > >>> > > the > > > >>> Humminbird depth finder with a GPS driver - they make one - or another > >>> bulkhead > >>> mounted GPS system. The Humminbird will have a larger display, but at > >>> > > the > > > >>> front of the cockpit. Again, I?m not sure the Humminbird can be > >>> > > secured or > > > >>> kept out of the weather, and I don?t think it will be a simple matter > >>> > > to > > > >>> take it > >>> home to program a course, way points, etc. Has anyone considered these > >>> trades and come to a decision as to the way to proceed. Better yet, > >>> > > does > > > >>> anyone > >>> have experience with hand held vice bulkhead mounted GPS displays. > >>> > >>> Thanks for any input. > >>> > >>> Dave > >>> > >>> __________________________________________________ > >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >>> > >>> __________________________________________________ > >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Wed Mar 1 08:51:53 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Wed Mar 1 08:51:45 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jokes Message-ID: <12a001c63d37$4c3bf050$6401a8c0@mjm2> "Why God made moms" answers given by elementary school age children to the following questions: Why did God make mothers? 1. She's the only one who knows where the scotch tape is. 2. Mostly to clean the house. 3. To help us out of there when we were getting born. How did God make mothers? 1. He used dirt, just like for the rest of us. 2. Magic plus super powers and a lot of stirring. 3. God made my Mom just the same like he made me. He just used bigger parts. What ingredients are mothers made of? 1. God makes mothers out of clouds and angel hair and everything nice in the world and one dab of mean. 2. They had to get their start from men's bones. Then they mostly use string, I think. Why did God give you your mother and not some other Mom? 1. We're related. 2. God knew she likes me a lot more than other people's moms like me. What kind of little girl was your Mom? 1. My Mom has always been my Mom and none of that other stuff. 2. I don't know because I wasn't there, but my guess would be pretty bossy. 3. They say she used to be nice. What did Mom need to know about dad before she married him? 1. His last name. 2. She had to know his background. Like is he a crook? Does he get drunk on beer? 3. Does he make at least $800 a year? Did he say NO to drugs and YES to chores? Why did your Mom marry your dad? 1. My dad makes the best spaghetti in the world. And my Mom eats a lot. 2. She got too old to do anything else with him. 3. My grandma says that Mom didn't have her thinking cap on. Who's the boss at your house? 1. Mom doesn't want to be boss, but she has to because dad's such a goof ball. 2. Mom. You can tell by room inspection. She sees the stuff under the bed. 3. I guess Mom is, but only because she has a lot more to do than dad. What's the difference between moms and dads? 1. Moms work at work & work at home, & dads just go to work at work. 2. Moms know how to talk to teachers without scaring them. 3. Dads are taller & stronger, but moms have all the real power 'cause that's who you got to ask if you want to sleep over at your friend's. Moms have magic, they make you feel better without medicine. What does your Mom do in her spare time? 1. Mothers don't do spare time. 2. To hear her tell it, she pays bills all day long. What would it take to make your Mom perfect? 1. On the inside she's already perfect. Outside, I think some kind of plastic surgery. 2. Diet. You know, her hair. I'd diet, maybe blue If you could change one thing about your Mom, what would it be? 1. She has this weird thing about me keeping my room clean. I'd get rid of that. 2 I'd make my Mom smarter. Then she would know it was my sister who did it and not me. 3. I would like for her to get rid of those invisible eyes on her back. ============================== THE MOMMY TEST I was out walking with my 4 year old daughter. She picked up something off the ground and started to put it in her mouth. I took the item away from her and I asked her not to do that. "Why?" my daughter asked. "Because it's been laying outside, you don't know where it's been, it's dirty and probably has germs" I replied. At this point, my daughter looked at me with total admiration and asked,"Wow! How do you know all this stuff?" "Uh," ...I was thinking quickly,"All moms know this stuff. It's on the Mommy Test. You have to know it, or they don't let you be a Mommy." We walked along in silence for 2 or 3 minutes, but she was evidently pondering this new information. "OH...I get it!" she beamed, "So if you don't pass the test you have to be the daddy." "Exactly" I replied back with a big smile on my face and joy in my heart. ===================== Too cute! "Dear Lord," the preacher began with arms extended and a rapturous look upon his upturned face, "without you we are but dust..." He would have continued, but at that moment one very obedient little girl (who was listening carefully) leaned over to her mother and asked quite audibly in her shrill little girl voice, "Mommy, WHAT is butt dust?" Church was pretty much over at that point... -- WINTER CLASSES FOR MEN AT THE LEARNING CENTER FOR ADULTS REGISTRATION MUST BE COMPLETED BY Monday, Jan. 26, 2006 NOTE: DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY AND DIFFICULTY LEVEL OF THEIR CONTENTS, CLASS SIZES WILL BE LIMITED TO 8 PARTICIPANTS MAXIMUM. Class 1 How To Fill Up The Ice Cube Trays --- Step by Step, with Slide Presentation. Meets 4 weeks, Monday and Wednesday for 2 hours beginning at 7:00 PM. Class 2 The Toilet Paper Roll --- Does It Change Itself? Round Table Discussion. Meets 2 weeks, Saturday 12:00 for 2 hours. Class 3 Is It Possible To Urinate Using The Technique Of Lifting The Seat and Avoiding The Floor, Walls and Nearby Bathtub? --- Group Practice. Meets 4 weeks, Saturday 10:00 PM for 2 hours. Class 4 Fundamental Differences Between The Laundry Hamper and The Floor --- Pictures and Explanatory Graphics. Meets Saturdays at 2:00 PM for 3 weeks. Class 5 After Dinner Dishes --- Can They Levitate and Fly Into The Kitchen Sink? Examples on Video. Meets 4 weeks, Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours beginning at 7:00 PM Class 6 Loss Of Identity --- Losing The Remote To Your Significant Other. Help Line Support and Support Groups. Meets 4 Weeks, Friday and Sunday 7:00 PM Class 7 Learning How To Find Things --- Starting With Looking In The Right Places And Not Turning The House Upside Down While Screaming. Open Forum . Monday at 8:00 PM, 2 hours. Class 8 Health Watch --- Bringing Her Flowers Is Not Harmful To Your Health. Graphics and Audio Tapes. Three nights; Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:00 PM for 2 hours. Class 9 Real Men Ask For Directions When Lost --- Real Life Testimonials. Tuesdays at 6:00 PM Location to be determined. Class 10 Is It Genetically Impossible To Sit Quietly While She Parallel Parks? Driving Simulations. 4 weeks, Saturday's noon, 2 hours. Class 11 Learning to Live --- Basic Differences Between Mother and Wife. Online Classes and role-playing . Tuesdays at 7:00 PM, location to be determined Class 12 How to be the Ideal Shopping Companion. Relaxation Exercises, Meditation and Breathing Techniques. Meets 4 weeks, Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours beginning at 7:00 PM. Class 13 How to Fight Cerebral Atrophy --- Remembering Birthdays, Anniversaries and Other Important Dates and Calling When You're Going To Be Late. Cerebral Shock Therapy Sessions and Full Lobotomies Offered. Three nights; Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:00 PM for 2 hours. Class 14 The Stove/Oven --- What It Is and How It Is Used. Live Demonstration. Tuesdays at 6:00 PM, location to be determined. Upon completion of any of the above courses, diplomas will be issued to the survivors. -- From mltroy at verizon.net Wed Mar 1 08:59:15 2006 From: mltroy at verizon.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Wed Mar 1 09:59:26 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jokes Message-ID: <3408581.1141225156258.JavaMail.root@vms062.mailsrvcs.net> Good ones Michael! (though perhaps mostly the women on the list will find them funny). Did Karin put you up to this ;-)? BTW, glad you are staying on the east coast! Mary Lou 1991 R22 Fretless Ft. Washington, PA / Rock Hall (Swan Creek), MD >From: Michel Meltzer >Date: Wed Mar 01 07:51:53 CST 2006 >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jokes >"Why God made moms" answers given by elementary school age children to >the following questions: > >Why did God make mothers? > 1. She's the only one who knows where the scotch tape is. > 2. Mostly to clean the house. > 3. To help us out of there when we were getting born. > >How did God make mothers? > 1. He used dirt, just like for the rest of us. > 2. Magic plus super powers and a lot of stirring. > 3. God made my Mom just the same like he made me. He just used bigger >parts. > >What ingredients are mothers made of? > 1. God makes mothers out of clouds and angel hair and everything nice >in the world and one dab of mean. > 2. They had to get their start from men's bones. Then they mostly use >string, I think. > >Why did God give you your mother and not some other Mom? > 1. We're related. > 2. God knew she likes me a lot more than other people's moms like me. > >What kind of little girl was your Mom? > 1. My Mom has always been my Mom and none of that other stuff. > 2. I don't know because I wasn't there, but my guess would be pretty >bossy. > 3. They say she used to be nice. > >What did Mom need to know about dad before she married him? > 1. His last name. > 2. She had to know his background. Like is he a crook? Does he get >drunk on beer? > 3. Does he make at least $800 a year? Did he say NO to drugs and YES to >chores? > >Why did your Mom marry your dad? > 1. My dad makes the best spaghetti in the world. And my Mom eats a lot. > 2. She got too old to do anything else with him. > 3. My grandma says that Mom didn't have her thinking cap on. > >Who's the boss at your house? > 1. Mom doesn't want to be boss, but she has to because dad's such a >goof ball. > 2. Mom. You can tell by room inspection. She sees the stuff under the >bed. > 3. I guess Mom is, but only because she has a lot more to do than dad. > >What's the difference between moms and dads? > 1. Moms work at work & work at home, & dads just go to work at work. > 2. Moms know how to talk to teachers without scaring them. > 3. Dads are taller & stronger, but moms have all the real power 'cause >that's who you got to ask if you want to sleep over at your friend's. >Moms have magic, they make you feel better without medicine. > >What does your Mom do in her spare time? > 1. Mothers don't do spare time. > 2. To hear her tell it, she pays bills all day long. > >What would it take to make your Mom perfect? > 1. On the inside she's already perfect. Outside, I think some kind of >plastic surgery. > 2. Diet. You know, her hair. I'd diet, maybe blue > >If you could change one thing about your Mom, what would it be? > 1. She has this weird thing about me keeping my room clean. I'd get rid >of that. > 2 I'd make my Mom smarter. Then she would know it was my sister who did >it and not me. > 3. I would like for her to get rid of those invisible eyes on her back. > >============================== >THE MOMMY TEST >I was out walking with my 4 year old daughter. She picked up something >off the ground and started to put it in her mouth. I took the item away >from her and I asked her not to do that. > >"Why?" my daughter asked. > >"Because it's been laying outside, you don't know where it's been, it's >dirty and probably has germs" I replied. > >At this point, my daughter looked at me with total admiration and >asked,"Wow! How do you know all this stuff?" > >"Uh," ...I was thinking quickly,"All moms know this stuff. It's on the >Mommy Test. You have to know it, or they don't let you be a Mommy." > >We walked along in silence for 2 or 3 minutes, but she was evidently >pondering this new information. "OH...I get it!" she beamed, "So if you >don't pass the test you >have to be the daddy." > >"Exactly" I replied back with a big smile on my face and joy in my >heart. > >===================== >Too cute! >"Dear Lord," the preacher began with arms extended and a rapturous look >upon his upturned face, "without you we are but dust..." > >He would have continued, but at that moment one very obedient little >girl (who was listening carefully) leaned over to her mother and asked >quite audibly in her shrill little girl voice, "Mommy, WHAT is butt >dust?" > >Church was pretty much over at that point... > > >-- >WINTER CLASSES FOR MEN AT THE LEARNING CENTER FOR ADULTS >REGISTRATION MUST BE COMPLETED BY Monday, Jan. 26, 2006 > >NOTE: DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY AND DIFFICULTY LEVEL OF THEIR CONTENTS, >CLASS SIZES WILL BE LIMITED TO 8 PARTICIPANTS MAXIMUM. > > >Class 1 >How To Fill Up The Ice Cube Trays --- Step by Step, with Slide >Presentation. >Meets 4 weeks, Monday and Wednesday for 2 hours beginning at 7:00 PM. > >Class 2 >The Toilet Paper Roll --- Does It Change Itself? Round Table Discussion. >Meets 2 weeks, Saturday 12:00 for 2 hours. > >Class 3 >Is It Possible To Urinate Using The Technique Of Lifting The Seat and >Avoiding The Floor, Walls and Nearby Bathtub? --- Group Practice. >Meets 4 weeks, Saturday 10:00 PM for 2 hours. > >Class 4 >Fundamental Differences Between The Laundry Hamper and The Floor --- >Pictures and Explanatory Graphics. >Meets Saturdays at 2:00 PM for 3 weeks. > >Class 5 >After Dinner Dishes --- Can They Levitate and Fly Into The Kitchen Sink? >Examples on Video. >Meets 4 weeks, Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours beginning at 7:00 PM > >Class 6 >Loss Of Identity --- Losing The Remote To Your Significant Other. Help >Line Support and Support Groups. >Meets 4 Weeks, Friday and Sunday 7:00 PM > >Class 7 >Learning How To Find Things --- Starting With Looking In The Right >Places And Not Turning The House Upside Down While Screaming. Open Forum >. >Monday at 8:00 PM, 2 hours. > >Class 8 >Health Watch --- Bringing Her Flowers Is Not Harmful To Your Health. >Graphics and Audio Tapes. >Three nights; Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:00 PM for 2 hours. > >Class 9 >Real Men Ask For Directions When Lost --- Real Life Testimonials. >Tuesdays at 6:00 PM Location to be determined. > >Class 10 >Is It Genetically Impossible To Sit Quietly While She Parallel Parks? >Driving Simulations. >4 weeks, Saturday's noon, 2 hours. > >Class 11 >Learning to Live --- Basic Differences Between Mother and Wife. Online >Classes and role-playing . >Tuesdays at 7:00 PM, location to be determined > >Class 12 >How to be the Ideal Shopping Companion. Relaxation Exercises, Meditation >and Breathing Techniques. >Meets 4 weeks, Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours beginning at 7:00 PM. > >Class 13 >How to Fight Cerebral Atrophy --- Remembering Birthdays, Anniversaries >and Other Important Dates and Calling When You're Going To Be Late. >Cerebral Shock Therapy Sessions and Full Lobotomies Offered. >Three nights; Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:00 PM for 2 hours. > >Class 14 >The Stove/Oven --- What It Is and How It Is Used. Live Demonstration. >Tuesdays at 6:00 PM, location to be determined. > >Upon completion of any of the above courses, diplomas will be issued to >the survivors. > > >-- > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Wed Mar 1 10:11:25 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Wed Mar 1 10:11:44 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jokes In-Reply-To: <3408581.1141225156258.JavaMail.root@vms062.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <12f501c63d42$68b05400$6401a8c0@mjm2> I feeling "domestic" today :-) , I am unemployed and stay in the house playing Mr Mom , doing my best to get under every ones feet but they left me alone :-) -mjm > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:59 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jokes > > Good ones Michael! (though perhaps mostly the women on the list will find > them funny). Did Karin put you up to this ;-)? BTW, glad you are staying > on the east coast! > > Mary Lou > 1991 R22 Fretless > Ft. Washington, PA / Rock Hall (Swan Creek), MD > > > > >From: Michel Meltzer > >Date: Wed Mar 01 07:51:53 CST 2006 > >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Jokes > > >"Why God made moms" answers given by elementary school age children to > >the following questions: > > > >Why did God make mothers? > > 1. She's the only one who knows where the scotch tape is. > > 2. Mostly to clean the house. > > 3. To help us out of there when we were getting born. > > > >How did God make mothers? > > 1. He used dirt, just like for the rest of us. > > 2. Magic plus super powers and a lot of stirring. > > 3. God made my Mom just the same like he made me. He just used bigger > >parts. > > > >What ingredients are mothers made of? > > 1. God makes mothers out of clouds and angel hair and everything nice > >in the world and one dab of mean. > > 2. They had to get their start from men's bones. Then they mostly use > >string, I think. > > > >Why did God give you your mother and not some other Mom? > > 1. We're related. > > 2. God knew she likes me a lot more than other people's moms like me. > > > >What kind of little girl was your Mom? > > 1. My Mom has always been my Mom and none of that other stuff. > > 2. I don't know because I wasn't there, but my guess would be pretty > >bossy. > > 3. They say she used to be nice. > > > >What did Mom need to know about dad before she married him? > > 1. His last name. > > 2. She had to know his background. Like is he a crook? Does he get > >drunk on beer? > > 3. Does he make at least $800 a year? Did he say NO to drugs and YES to > >chores? > > > >Why did your Mom marry your dad? > > 1. My dad makes the best spaghetti in the world. And my Mom eats a lot. > > 2. She got too old to do anything else with him. > > 3. My grandma says that Mom didn't have her thinking cap on. > > > >Who's the boss at your house? > > 1. Mom doesn't want to be boss, but she has to because dad's such a > >goof ball. > > 2. Mom. You can tell by room inspection. She sees the stuff under the > >bed. > > 3. I guess Mom is, but only because she has a lot more to do than dad. > > > >What's the difference between moms and dads? > > 1. Moms work at work & work at home, & dads just go to work at work. > > 2. Moms know how to talk to teachers without scaring them. > > 3. Dads are taller & stronger, but moms have all the real power 'cause > >that's who you got to ask if you want to sleep over at your friend's. > >Moms have magic, they make you feel better without medicine. > > > >What does your Mom do in her spare time? > > 1. Mothers don't do spare time. > > 2. To hear her tell it, she pays bills all day long. > > > >What would it take to make your Mom perfect? > > 1. On the inside she's already perfect. Outside, I think some kind of > >plastic surgery. > > 2. Diet. You know, her hair. I'd diet, maybe blue > > > >If you could change one thing about your Mom, what would it be? > > 1. She has this weird thing about me keeping my room clean. I'd get rid > >of that. > > 2 I'd make my Mom smarter. Then she would know it was my sister who did > >it and not me. > > 3. I would like for her to get rid of those invisible eyes on her back. > > > >============================== > >THE MOMMY TEST > >I was out walking with my 4 year old daughter. She picked up something > >off the ground and started to put it in her mouth. I took the item away > >from her and I asked her not to do that. > > > >"Why?" my daughter asked. > > > >"Because it's been laying outside, you don't know where it's been, it's > >dirty and probably has germs" I replied. > > > >At this point, my daughter looked at me with total admiration and > >asked,"Wow! How do you know all this stuff?" > > > >"Uh," ...I was thinking quickly,"All moms know this stuff. It's on the > >Mommy Test. You have to know it, or they don't let you be a Mommy." > > > >We walked along in silence for 2 or 3 minutes, but she was evidently > >pondering this new information. "OH...I get it!" she beamed, "So if you > >don't pass the test you > >have to be the daddy." > > > >"Exactly" I replied back with a big smile on my face and joy in my > >heart. > > > >===================== > >Too cute! > >"Dear Lord," the preacher began with arms extended and a rapturous look > >upon his upturned face, "without you we are but dust..." > > > >He would have continued, but at that moment one very obedient little > >girl (who was listening carefully) leaned over to her mother and asked > >quite audibly in her shrill little girl voice, "Mommy, WHAT is butt > >dust?" > > > >Church was pretty much over at that point... > > > > > >-- > >WINTER CLASSES FOR MEN AT THE LEARNING CENTER FOR ADULTS > >REGISTRATION MUST BE COMPLETED BY Monday, Jan. 26, 2006 > > > >NOTE: DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY AND DIFFICULTY LEVEL OF THEIR CONTENTS, > >CLASS SIZES WILL BE LIMITED TO 8 PARTICIPANTS MAXIMUM. > > > > > >Class 1 > >How To Fill Up The Ice Cube Trays --- Step by Step, with Slide > >Presentation. > >Meets 4 weeks, Monday and Wednesday for 2 hours beginning at 7:00 PM. > > > >Class 2 > >The Toilet Paper Roll --- Does It Change Itself? Round Table Discussion. > >Meets 2 weeks, Saturday 12:00 for 2 hours. > > > >Class 3 > >Is It Possible To Urinate Using The Technique Of Lifting The Seat and > >Avoiding The Floor, Walls and Nearby Bathtub? --- Group Practice. > >Meets 4 weeks, Saturday 10:00 PM for 2 hours. > > > >Class 4 > >Fundamental Differences Between The Laundry Hamper and The Floor --- > >Pictures and Explanatory Graphics. > >Meets Saturdays at 2:00 PM for 3 weeks. > > > >Class 5 > >After Dinner Dishes --- Can They Levitate and Fly Into The Kitchen Sink? > >Examples on Video. > >Meets 4 weeks, Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours beginning at 7:00 PM > > > >Class 6 > >Loss Of Identity --- Losing The Remote To Your Significant Other. Help > >Line Support and Support Groups. > >Meets 4 Weeks, Friday and Sunday 7:00 PM > > > >Class 7 > >Learning How To Find Things --- Starting With Looking In The Right > >Places And Not Turning The House Upside Down While Screaming. Open Forum > >. > >Monday at 8:00 PM, 2 hours. > > > >Class 8 > >Health Watch --- Bringing Her Flowers Is Not Harmful To Your Health. > >Graphics and Audio Tapes. > >Three nights; Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:00 PM for 2 hours. > > > >Class 9 > >Real Men Ask For Directions When Lost --- Real Life Testimonials. > >Tuesdays at 6:00 PM Location to be determined. > > > >Class 10 > >Is It Genetically Impossible To Sit Quietly While She Parallel Parks? > >Driving Simulations. > >4 weeks, Saturday's noon, 2 hours. > > > >Class 11 > >Learning to Live --- Basic Differences Between Mother and Wife. Online > >Classes and role-playing . > >Tuesdays at 7:00 PM, location to be determined > > > >Class 12 > >How to be the Ideal Shopping Companion. Relaxation Exercises, Meditation > >and Breathing Techniques. > >Meets 4 weeks, Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours beginning at 7:00 PM. > > > >Class 13 > >How to Fight Cerebral Atrophy --- Remembering Birthdays, Anniversaries > >and Other Important Dates and Calling When You're Going To Be Late. > >Cerebral Shock Therapy Sessions and Full Lobotomies Offered. > >Three nights; Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:00 PM for 2 hours. > > > >Class 14 > >The Stove/Oven --- What It Is and How It Is Used. Live Demonstration. > >Tuesdays at 6:00 PM, location to be determined. > > > >Upon completion of any of the above courses, diplomas will be issued to > >the survivors. > > > > > >-- > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 1 10:47:24 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Wed Mar 1 11:47:35 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Zai Jian In-Reply-To: <20060228233646.82192.qmail@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Brad, Good Luck "going where the wind don't blow so strange" GFD. Drop by again some time. Bob Weber >From: brad haslett >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Zai Jian >Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:36:46 -0800 (PST) > >WHAT A LONG STRANGE TRIP ITS BEEN! > >Grateful Dead > >Well boys and girls, the Benevolent Carpet Baggers are >finally positive cash flow! In the last three days >the phone has been ringing off the wall. People are >tired of waiting on the ‘gubment’ and are taking >things in their own hands. The people who are still >waiting on the ‘gubment’ are the same folks who were >living off the taxpayers to begin with. I’ve had a >great a time on “da list” but business is getting in >the way. I’ll miss ‘ya all’. Happy Sailing > >Brad Haslett >s/v CoraShen > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Wed Mar 1 11:51:57 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Wed Mar 1 11:52:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Zai Jian In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <131d01c63d50$74083210$6401a8c0@mjm2> Brad already dropped off the list, you might want to mail him directly -mjm > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bob Weber > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:47 AM > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Zai Jian > > Brad, > > Good Luck "going where the wind don't blow so strange" GFD. Drop by > again > some time. > > Bob Weber > > > >From: brad haslett > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Zai Jian > >Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:36:46 -0800 (PST) > > > >WHAT A LONG STRANGE TRIP ITS BEEN! > > > >Grateful Dead > > > >Well boys and girls, the Benevolent Carpet Baggers are > >finally positive cash flow! In the last three days > >the phone has been ringing off the wall. People are > >tired of waiting on the 'gubment' and are taking > >things in their own hands. The people who are still > >waiting on the 'gubment' are the same folks who were > >living off the taxpayers to begin with. I've had a > >great a time on "da list" but business is getting in > >the way. I'll miss 'ya all'. Happy Sailing > > > >Brad Haslett > >s/v CoraShen > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com Wed Mar 1 20:58:22 2006 From: BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com (Robert and Sandra Fuller) Date: Wed Mar 1 20:58:38 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R 22 Instrumentation(and other goodies), long Message-ID: <000501c63d9c$ca919990$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> I realize I am late in joining this discussion but after vacation I had some trouble registering the new Rhodes that Elton delivered in mid-January. Just got out for a shakedown sail this afternoon. Beautiful day in upper Sarasota Bay, but only 4 knts. of wind. Surprised to see a manatee in 65 degree water. I am a novice sailor and my admiral wants the boat sailed flat unless she is distracted by being at the helm (which I take as a very positive sign), Just wanted to share with the list the features I chose and my initial impressions. The most distinctive piece of equipment on my new boat is the Thetford porta-potty! So regardless of what wretched excesses follow, they don't include putting a marine head in my day-sailer! Note well:preceding written with tongue firmly in cheek. Just thought I'd start out by enflaming - er, igniting a little interest. P-P does suit my needs though. New boats have a keel a few inches longer than their predecessors, but the difference is not apparent to the naked eye. Doubt if I am going to be able to tease out any improved handling or pointing because the new sails are too big a confounding variable. Went with the 175 genny because -as a new sailer- I couldn't detect decreased efficiency when partially furled. And found the old 175 easy to pole out with a length of pvc in very light air. Plastimo compass, Contest 101, bulkhead mount, gives excellent visibility from the back of the boat; as do the large #'s on Raymarine knotmeter,St40. I had a handheld GPS on the old boat and find the convenience of the knotmeter well worth it. I learned to use the GPS while riding around on a bicycle and found trying to use it while sailing just as awkward as using it while on a bike.I had no problem with the old hand-held ICOM vhf, so I stuck with ICOM(M302) with mast antenna. It is plenty loud enough to be heard outside the cabin. The most wretched excess -and coolest toy on the boat- is an Echopilot(bronze) forward looking sonar. Did I need it? Of course not. Lots of skinny water around here but in a year of (careful) sailing, I had one soft grounding. But is it fun! Because of angle of reflection to the transducer, the distance it can "see" ahead is dependant on the depth of the water. Today, in 8' to 10' of water, it was showing depth about 20' in front of the boat. And just ahead of the boat in about 4'. I will have to get a lot more experience before I can say anything about accuracy and reliability - let alone the durability of Echopilot stuff. But based on today, it looks like poking into shallow waters is going to be a lot more interesting. Got it @ WestMarine last year and can't find it in the 2006 catalogue, but Echopilot has several web sites. A pretty wretched excess -and proof Stan will put what you want on the boat if he can't bring you to reason- are the small Lewmar ST winches he installed for me. Again, have I needed them in the past? Ha! I can't say I have really need a winch handle. But some things are for go and others for show. So far these have definitely been in the latter category. A couple of my sailing buds have murmured "nice winches", in the tone you usually say "nice legs". Predictably, what drew the most compliments was the gin pole and the ease with which Elton & I dropped one mast & raise another. An old salt down the street is rescuing a 24 footer he salvaged and is talking about borrowing it. Lots of goodies, so I guess I better stop typing and start sailing. Bob F. From salm at mn.rr.com Thu Mar 2 02:18:56 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (Slim) Date: Thu Mar 2 03:10:56 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R 22 Instrumentation(and other goodies), long In-Reply-To: <000501c63d9c$ca919990$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Message-ID: Bob, Congrats on your boat! May you and the admiral enjoy many a year of fun. Sounds like you have a lot of whistles and bells. More than my liking but that's just me. Don't worry about the furled 175 losing shape--as long as you're not racing, you'll enjoy the convenience. If it becomes an issue, you can always add a luff pad later. I have mine in the loft this winter doing just that. I'll let you know how I like it. The winches are a must. I learned from Rummy here on the list to "cross sheet" using both winches when single-handing and I love it. No need for a winch handle--you wrap around both winches and "sweat the line" for easy purchase. You can easily control the sheet from the high side that way so you don't have to go down to the low side and offset your balance to take in the sheet. Even when others are on board, I still single-hand the boat most of the time. Welcome to the Rhodes list and I'm looking forward to your next report. Slim On 3/1/06 7:58 PM, "Robert and Sandra Fuller" wrote: > I realize I am late in joining this discussion but after vacation I had some > trouble registering the new Rhodes that Elton delivered in mid-January. Just > got out for a shakedown sail this afternoon. Beautiful day in upper Sarasota > Bay, but only 4 knts. of wind. Surprised to see a manatee in 65 degree water. > I am a novice sailor and my admiral wants the boat sailed flat unless she is > distracted by being at the helm (which I take as a very positive sign), Just > wanted to share with the list the features I chose and my initial impressions. > The most distinctive piece of equipment on my new boat is the Thetford > porta-potty! So regardless of what wretched excesses follow, they don't > include putting a marine head in my day-sailer! Note well:preceding written > with tongue firmly in cheek. Just thought I'd start out by enflaming - er, > igniting a little interest. P-P does suit my needs though. > New boats have a keel a few inches longer than their predecessors, but the > difference is not apparent to the naked eye. Doubt if I am going to be able to > tease out any improved handling or pointing because the new sails are too big > a confounding variable. Went with the 175 genny because -as a new sailer- I > couldn't detect decreased efficiency when partially furled. And found the old > 175 easy to pole out with a length of pvc in very light air. > Plastimo compass, Contest 101, bulkhead mount, gives excellent visibility from > the back of the boat; as do the large #'s on Raymarine knotmeter,St40. I had a > handheld GPS on the old boat and find the convenience of the knotmeter well > worth it. I learned to use the GPS while riding around on a bicycle and found > trying to use it while sailing just as awkward as using it while on a bike.I > had no problem with the old hand-held ICOM vhf, so I stuck with ICOM(M302) > with mast antenna. It is plenty loud enough to be heard outside the cabin. > The most wretched excess -and coolest toy on the boat- is an Echopilot(bronze) > forward looking sonar. Did I need it? Of course not. Lots of skinny water > around here but in a year of (careful) sailing, I had one soft grounding. But > is it fun! Because of angle of reflection to the transducer, the distance it > can "see" ahead is dependant on the depth of the water. Today, in 8' to 10' > of water, it was showing depth about 20' in front of the boat. And just ahead > of the boat in about 4'. I will have to get a lot more experience before I can > say anything about accuracy and reliability - let alone the durability of > Echopilot stuff. But based on today, it looks like poking into shallow waters > is going to be a lot more interesting. Got it @ WestMarine last year and > can't find it in the 2006 catalogue, but Echopilot has several web sites. > A pretty wretched excess -and proof Stan will put what you want on the boat if > he can't bring you to reason- are the small Lewmar ST winches he installed for > me. Again, have I needed them in the past? Ha! I can't say I have really > need a winch handle. But some things are for go and others for show. So far > these have definitely been in the latter category. A couple of my sailing > buds have murmured "nice winches", in the tone you usually say "nice legs". > Predictably, what drew the most compliments was the gin pole and the ease with > which Elton & I dropped one mast & raise another. An old salt down the street > is rescuing a 24 footer he salvaged and is talking about borrowing it. > Lots of goodies, so I guess I better stop typing and start sailing. > Bob F. > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From jfortune at knology.net Thu Mar 2 05:39:10 2006 From: jfortune at knology.net (jfortune@knology.net) Date: Thu Mar 2 09:25:45 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re: 1975 rhodes 22 Message-ID: <20060302053131.17782.qmail@webmail1.knology.net> ------------- Forwarded message follows ------------- try rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: 1975 rhodes 22 >i have 1975 rhodes continental 22 i'm interested in selling. > > -2004 tohatsu 8hp electric start longshaft motor > -hull and deck painted in 2005 (the cap and cockpit were not painted) > -bottom job in 2005 > -bow and stern rails,stantons and lifelines new in 2005 (custom made > w/anodized aluminum > -all exterior wood trim replaced with mahogney in 2005 > -rudder rebuilt and new tiller handle in 2005 > -all lines replaced in 2005 > -windows replaced in 2005 > -new compass > > thanks! john > -------------- next part -------------- Name: not available Type: image/pjpeg Size: 2267095 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/02/attachment.bin From rlowe at vt.edu Thu Mar 2 09:41:40 2006 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Rob Lowe) Date: Thu Mar 2 09:41:50 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re: 1975 rhodes 22 References: <20060302053131.17782.qmail@webmail1.knology.net> Message-ID: <006901c63e07$6afd0da0$58ac52c6@ehss.vt.edu> John, Tell us a bit more. I see a furling jib. What type of main? Where is it ? (Florida I'm assuming by the registration) Trailer? Type? How much you asking? -Rob Lowe S/V Getaway ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:31 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re: 1975 rhodes 22 > ------------- Forwarded message follows ------------- > > try rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:37 PM > Subject: 1975 rhodes 22 > > > >i have 1975 rhodes continental 22 i'm interested in selling. > > > > -2004 tohatsu 8hp electric start longshaft motor > > -hull and deck painted in 2005 (the cap and cockpit were not painted) > > -bottom job in 2005 > > -bow and stern rails,stantons and lifelines new in 2005 (custom made > > w/anodized aluminum > > -all exterior wood trim replaced with mahogney in 2005 > > -rudder rebuilt and new tiller handle in 2005 > > -all lines replaced in 2005 > > -windows replaced in 2005 > > -new compass > > > > > thanks! john > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Name: not available Type: image/pjpeg Size: 2267095 bytes Desc: not available > Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/02/attachment.bin > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 2 09:31:28 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Thu Mar 2 10:31:38 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R 22 Instrumentation(and other goodies), long In-Reply-To: <000501c63d9c$ca919990$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Message-ID: Congrats Bob and Sandra, St. Petes used to be my summer stomping ground and you are right there is plenty of skinny water. I will be in Clearwater March 17 - 19 taking a class. I don't know if I will have any free time but would like to see the new addition to your family. Let me know how that weekend look for you. Bob Weber Odyssey Sailing School S/V Ruba >From: "Robert and Sandra Fuller" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R 22 Instrumentation(and other goodies), long >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:58:22 -0500 > >I realize I am late in joining this discussion but after vacation I had >some trouble registering the new Rhodes that Elton delivered in >mid-January. Just got out for a shakedown sail this afternoon. Beautiful >day in upper Sarasota Bay, but only 4 knts. of wind. Surprised to see a >manatee in 65 degree water. >I am a novice sailor and my admiral wants the boat sailed flat unless she >is distracted by being at the helm (which I take as a very positive sign), >Just wanted to share with the list the features I chose and my initial >impressions. >The most distinctive piece of equipment on my new boat is the Thetford >porta-potty! So regardless of what wretched excesses follow, they don't >include putting a marine head in my day-sailer! Note well:preceding written >with tongue firmly in cheek. Just thought I'd start out by enflaming - er, >igniting a little interest. P-P does suit my needs though. >New boats have a keel a few inches longer than their predecessors, but the >difference is not apparent to the naked eye. Doubt if I am going to be able >to tease out any improved handling or pointing because the new sails are >too big a confounding variable. Went with the 175 genny because -as a new >sailer- I couldn't detect decreased efficiency when partially furled. And >found the old 175 easy to pole out with a length of pvc in very light air. >Plastimo compass, Contest 101, bulkhead mount, gives excellent visibility >from the back of the boat; as do the large #'s on Raymarine knotmeter,St40. >I had a handheld GPS on the old boat and find the convenience of the >knotmeter well worth it. I learned to use the GPS while riding around on a >bicycle and found trying to use it while sailing just as awkward as using >it while on a bike.I had no problem with the old hand-held ICOM vhf, so I >stuck with ICOM(M302) with mast antenna. It is plenty loud enough to be >heard outside the cabin. >The most wretched excess -and coolest toy on the boat- is an >Echopilot(bronze) forward looking sonar. Did I need it? Of course not. >Lots of skinny water around here but in a year of (careful) sailing, I had >one soft grounding. But is it fun! Because of angle of reflection to the >transducer, the distance it can "see" ahead is dependant on the depth of >the water. Today, in 8' to 10' of water, it was showing depth about 20' in >front of the boat. And just ahead of the boat in about 4'. I will have to >get a lot more experience before I can say anything about accuracy and >reliability - let alone the durability of Echopilot stuff. But based on >today, it looks like poking into shallow waters is going to be a lot more >interesting. Got it @ WestMarine last year and can't find it in the 2006 >catalogue, but Echopilot has several web sites. >A pretty wretched excess -and proof Stan will put what you want on the boat >if he can't bring you to reason- are the small Lewmar ST winches he >installed for me. Again, have I needed them in the past? Ha! I can't say >I have really need a winch handle. But some things are for go and others >for show. So far these have definitely been in the latter category. A >couple of my sailing buds have murmured "nice winches", in the tone you >usually say "nice legs". >Predictably, what drew the most compliments was the gin pole and the ease >with which Elton & I dropped one mast & raise another. An old salt down >the street is rescuing a 24 footer he salvaged and is talking about >borrowing it. >Lots of goodies, so I guess I better stop typing and start sailing. >Bob F. >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Thu Mar 2 10:27:42 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Thu Mar 2 10:37:25 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Raleigh NC Rhodes22 owner? Message-ID: <198970.1141313263016.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Bob, Why don't you visit the plant in Edenton, see the operation, take a demo and meet Stan and his crew? Art -----Original Message----- >From: Robert Malkin >Sent: Feb 28, 2006 11:39 AM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Raleigh NC Rhodes22 owner? > >I am considering purchasing a Rhodes 22. I would like to visit one in the >Raleigh, NC (triangle) area. > >Is any owner in this area willing to let me visit their boat and discuss >their experiences with it. > > > >Thanks > >Bob Malkin > >robert.malkin@duke.edu > > > > > >------------------------------------------------- > >Robert Malkin > >Professor of the Practice of Biomedical Engineering >Director, Duke-Engineering World Health > >Duke University > >Hudson 136, #90281 > >Durham, NC 27708-0281 > > > >Office Location: Hudson Annex 252 > > > >Phone: 919-660-8266 > >FAX: 919-684-4488 > >e-mail: robert.malkin@duke.edu > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 2 10:53:55 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Thu Mar 2 11:54:03 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re: 1975 rhodes 22 In-Reply-To: <20060302053131.17782.qmail@webmail1.knology.net> Message-ID: John, where is the boat located? BW >From: "jfortune@knology.net" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re: 1975 rhodes 22 >Date: 2 Mar 2006 05:31:31 -0000 > >------------- Forwarded message follows ------------- > >try rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:37 PM >Subject: 1975 rhodes 22 > > > >i have 1975 rhodes continental 22 i'm interested in selling. > > > > -2004 tohatsu 8hp electric start longshaft motor > > -hull and deck painted in 2005 (the cap and cockpit were not painted) > > -bottom job in 2005 > > -bow and stern rails,stantons and lifelines new in 2005 (custom made > > w/anodized aluminum > > -all exterior wood trim replaced with mahogney in 2005 > > -rudder rebuilt and new tiller handle in 2005 > > -all lines replaced in 2005 > > -windows replaced in 2005 > > -new compass > > > > > thanks! john > > > > > >Name: not available Type: image/pjpeg Size: 2267095 bytes Desc: not >available >Url: >http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/02/attachment.bin >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From fredkaiser at verizon.net Thu Mar 2 13:41:04 2006 From: fredkaiser at verizon.net (Fred Kaiser) Date: Thu Mar 2 13:41:30 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Here pictures of Link 10 location on Fretless Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> Peter, Here are a couple of pictures of our Link 10. I mounted the link 10 on the port side of the V-berth at the aft end of the peg board. That enabled me to lead the wiring straight down to the battery which on Fretless is stored in the cabin end of the V-berth next to the water tank. I also put a 12 volt cigarette type receptacle there since I had power available. Fred Kaiser Ft. Washington PA, Rock Hall MD 1991 R22 Fretless Swan Creek From jfortune at knology.net Thu Mar 2 20:05:42 2006 From: jfortune at knology.net (jfortune@knology.net) Date: Thu Mar 2 15:05:43 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re: 1975 rhodes 22 In-Reply-To: <> References: <> Message-ID: <20060302200041.11930.qmail@webmail2.knology.net> panama city florida On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:53:55 -0600, "Bob Weber" wrote : > John, where is the boat located? BW > > > >From: "jfortune@knology.net" > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re: 1975 rhodes 22 > >Date: 2 Mar 2006 05:31:31 -0000 > > > >------------- Forwarded message follows ------------- > > > >try rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:37 PM > >Subject: 1975 rhodes 22 > > > > > > >i have 1975 rhodes continental 22 i'm interested in selling. > > > > > > -2004 tohatsu 8hp electric start longshaft motor > > > -hull and deck painted in 2005 (the cap and cockpit were not painted) > > > -bottom job in 2005 > > > -bow and stern rails,stantons and lifelines new in 2005 (custom made > > > w/anodized aluminum > > > -all exterior wood trim replaced with mahogney in 2005 > > > -rudder rebuilt and new tiller handle in 2005 > > > -all lines replaced in 2005 > > > -windows replaced in 2005 > > > -new compass > > > > > > > > thanks! john > > > > > > > > > > > > >Name: not available Type: image/pjpeg Size: 2267095 bytes Desc: not > >available > >Url: > >http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22- list/attch/200603/02/attachment.bin > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > From bill at effros.com Thu Mar 2 16:08:22 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Thu Mar 2 16:08:29 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tattoo of the Year Message-ID: <44075EC6.3030202@effros.com> -------------- next part -------------- Name: Tattoo.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 52458 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/02/Tattoo.jpg From ekroposki at charter.net Thu Mar 2 14:25:37 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Thu Mar 2 17:25:44 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fred Kaiser pictures of Link 10 location on Fretless ?? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <3211787.post@talk.nabble.com> Fred: Your photography is great. At least I think it is, if I could only see the pictures. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA Addendum: "If your attack is going too well, your walking into an ambush." - Infantry Journal -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Here-pictures-of-Link-10-location-on-Fretless-t1213302.html#a3211787 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From mltroy at verizon.net Thu Mar 2 18:30:25 2006 From: mltroy at verizon.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Thu Mar 2 18:30:46 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Here pictures of Link 10 location on Fretless In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20060302182836.0265f790@incoming.verizon.net> Don't know why these didn't go through. Here's one more try from my computer one at a time. If it works I'll send the other one. Mary Lou At 01:41 PM 3/2/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Peter, Here are a couple of pictures of our Link 10. I mounted the link 10 >on the port side of the V-berth at the aft end of the peg board. That >enabled me to lead the wiring straight down to the battery which on >Fretless is stored in the cabin end of the V-berth next to the water >tank. I also put a 12 volt cigarette type receptacle there since I had >power available. > >Fred Kaiser >Ft. Washington PA, Rock Hall MD >1991 R22 Fretless Swan Creek > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list -------------- next part -------------- Name: link 10 1a .jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 121789 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/02/link101a.jpg From mltroy at verizon.net Thu Mar 2 18:32:44 2006 From: mltroy at verizon.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Thu Mar 2 18:33:07 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Here pictures of Link 10 location on Fretless In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20060302182836.0265f790@incoming.verizon.net> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20060302183203.0264dc38@incoming.verizon.net> Here's the other. ML At 06:30 PM 3/2/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Don't know why these didn't go through. Here's one more try from my >computer one at a time. If it works I'll send the other one. > >Mary Lou > >At 01:41 PM 3/2/2006 -0500, you wrote: >>Peter, Here are a couple of pictures of our Link 10. I mounted the link >>10 on the port side of the V-berth at the aft end of the peg board. That >>enabled me to lead the wiring straight down to the battery which on >>Fretless is stored in the cabin end of the V-berth next to the water >>tank. I also put a 12 volt cigarette type receptacle there since I had >>power available. >> >>Fred Kaiser >>Ft. Washington PA, Rock Hall MD >>1991 R22 Fretless Swan Creek >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >Name: link 10 1a .jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 121789 bytes Desc: not available >Url: >http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/02/link101a.jpg >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list -------------- next part -------------- Name: link 10 2a.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 161805 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/02/link102a.jpg From BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com Thu Mar 2 20:24:16 2006 From: BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com (Robert and Sandra Fuller) Date: Thu Mar 2 20:24:26 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R 22 Instrumentation(and other goodies), long Message-ID: <000501c63e61$30a6b7a0$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Bob, we are in Cortez, just east of Bradenton. Would love to have you down, but we will have to juggle the times. I will be free Friday the 17 during the day, but have a commitment that evening. Out of town Sat&Sunday (our 40th wedding aniv.!). Have lots of free time on either side of the weekend. Could you make it before or after your class? Bob F. From R22RumRunner at aol.com Thu Mar 2 22:16:43 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 2 22:16:51 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Here pictures of Link 10 location on Fretless Message-ID: <2b6.58f32ff.31390f1b@aol.com> In a message dated 3/2/2006 6:33:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mltroy@verizon.net writes: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/02/link101a.jpg Mary Lou, One thing I liked that I saw in the picture was the way you used the peg board to store your whisker pole. Why haven't I thought of that? BRILLIANT Rummy From trpclman at yahoo.com Fri Mar 3 04:27:18 2006 From: trpclman at yahoo.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Fri Mar 3 07:27:22 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R 22 Instrumentation(and other goodies), long In-Reply-To: <000501c63e61$30a6b7a0$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Message-ID: <20060303122718.46620.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Robert and Sandra, I'm in Bayshore Gardens, which is on 26th Street just 1 mile south of Manatee Community College. I have a 1975 and a 1982 Rhodes, and next to my '75 there is another 82 Rhodes. Where do you keep your boat? Luis Robert and Sandra Fuller wrote: Bob, we are in Cortez, just east of Bradenton. Would love to have you down, but we will have to juggle the times. I will be free Friday the 17 during the day, but have a commitment that evening. Out of town Sat&Sunday (our 40th wedding aniv.!). Have lots of free time on either side of the weekend. Could you make it before or after your class? Bob F. __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From tnrhodey at hotmail.com Fri Mar 3 07:54:55 2006 From: tnrhodey at hotmail.com (TN Rhodey) Date: Fri Mar 3 07:55:00 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Here pictures of Link 10 location on Fretless In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: Fred/Mary Lou, Did your boat come with the wood panel already in place? I did see pic. Just asking because my R22 doesn't have a wood panel there. Wally >From: Fred Kaiser >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Here pictures of Link 10 location on Fretless >Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:41:04 -0500 > >Peter, Here are a couple of pictures of our Link 10. I mounted the link 10 >on the port side of the V-berth at the aft end of the peg board. That >enabled me to lead the wiring straight down to the battery which on >Fretless is stored in the cabin end of the V-berth next to the water tank. >I also put a 12 volt cigarette type receptacle there since I had power >available. > >Fred Kaiser >Ft. Washington PA, Rock Hall MD >1991 R22 Fretless Swan Creek >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Fri Mar 3 06:13:09 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Fri Mar 3 09:13:18 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] MOB, Mary Lou, Bud, Ebay Rhodes??, Wally, Luis In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20060227103242.026e1060@incoming.verizon.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20060225072916.026f30e0@incoming.verizon.net> <4400ED2C.5040602@earthlink.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20060227103242.026e1060@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <3221575.post@talk.nabble.com> Mary Lou, You spoon fed the guy and he never thanked you. If you waited a few days and still get the SailNet advertizing look what they are promoting: http://shop.sailnet.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=safety+sling And who got the eBay Rhodes 22? Are they on the list? Wally, My '84 does not have the pannel nor the neat hook for the Spinnaker pole. My pole sits ok behind the edge of the peg board. Luis, Who sails the other 1982 next to your '75? Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/R22-Instrumentation-t1184803.html#a3221575 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From fredkaiser at verizon.net Fri Mar 3 12:13:50 2006 From: fredkaiser at verizon.net (Fred Kaiser) Date: Fri Mar 3 12:13:43 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Here pictures of Link 10 location on Fretless In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20060303120553.00c45288@incoming.verizon.net> At 07:54 AM 3/3/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Fred/Mary Lou, > >Did your boat come with the wood panel already in place? I did see pic. >Just asking because my R22 doesn't have a wood panel there. > >Wally Wally, I installed the panel using 1/4" plywood attached to a wedge which when fastened to the bulkhead angles it so that it can be seen anywhere in the cabin. You can see the 2 stainless screw heads where it is attached to the bulkhead in the lower edge of the picture. Fred Kaiser Ft. Washington PA, Rock Hall MD 1991 R22 Fretless Swan Creek From pthorn at nc.rr.com Fri Mar 3 12:29:51 2006 From: pthorn at nc.rr.com (Peter Thorn) Date: Fri Mar 3 12:30:53 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Here pictures of Link 10 location on Fretless References: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20060303120553.00c45288@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <001901c63ee8$14e1b970$660fa8c0@dell330> Fred, I'm just rising from the dead after a few days of flu bug. That's a very nice installation and excellent food for thought. Did you include an on-board charger? If so, what kind? Thanks. PT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Kaiser" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Here pictures of Link 10 location on Fretless > > At 07:54 AM 3/3/2006 -0500, you wrote: > >Fred/Mary Lou, > > > >Did your boat come with the wood panel already in place? I did see pic. > >Just asking because my R22 doesn't have a wood panel there. > > > >Wally > > Wally, I installed the panel using 1/4" plywood attached to a wedge which > when fastened to the bulkhead angles it so that it can be seen anywhere in > the cabin. You can see the 2 stainless screw heads where it is attached to > the bulkhead in the lower edge of the picture. > > Fred Kaiser > Ft. Washington PA, Rock Hall MD > 1991 R22 Fretless Swan Creek > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Fri Mar 3 13:35:26 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (ed kroposki) Date: Fri Mar 3 13:35:44 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Humor, Ben Shultz's Style... Message-ID: <000401c63ef1$4220e3d0$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Boudreaux, the smoothest-talking Cajun in the Louisiana National Guard, got called up to active duty. Boudreaux's first assignment was to a military induction center, and because he was a good talker they assigned him the duty of advising new recruits about government benefits, especially the GI insurance to which they were entitled. Before long, the Captain in charge of the induction center began noticing that Boudreaux was getting a 99% sign-up rate for the more expensive supplemental form of GI insurance. This was odd, because it would cost these low-income recruits $30.00 per month more for the higher coverage, compared to what the government was already providing at no charge. The Captain decided that he would not ask Boudreaux directly about his selling techniques, but instead he would sit in the back of the room at the ne xt briefing and observe Boudreaux's sales pitch Boudreaux stood up before the latest group of inductees and said, "If you has da normal GI insurans an' you goes to Iraq an' gets youself killed, da governmen' pays you beneficiary $20,000. If you takes out da supplemental insurans, which cost you only t'irty dollars a mons, den da the governmen' gots ta pay you beneficiary $200,000!" "NOW," Boudreaux concluded, "which bunch you tink dey gonna send ta Iraq first...?" From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 3 14:12:13 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Fri Mar 3 15:12:23 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R 22 Instrumentation(and other goodies), long In-Reply-To: <000501c63e61$30a6b7a0$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Message-ID: Bob, I get in Friday Evening and leave Sunday afternoon. Look like it wont work this trip. I plan to be back in the area next fall. For the last 15 years I have been going to your area in the summer times when my snowbird parents were back in STL. They sold there place this last fall so my free ride is over. I have explored the area around the Don Ceasar as far south as the skyway and as far north as clearwater. Summer wx can change quickly, especially in the evening, but otherwise it is a great sailing area. Enjoy your "new" boat. Bob Weber >From: "Robert and Sandra Fuller" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R 22 Instrumentation(and other goodies), long >Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:24:16 -0500 > >Bob, we are in Cortez, just east of Bradenton. Would love to have you >down, but we will have to juggle the times. I will be free Friday the 17 >during the day, but have a commitment that evening. Out of town Sat&Sunday >(our 40th wedding aniv.!). Have lots of free time on either side of the >weekend. Could you make it before or after your class? >Bob F. >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From fredkaiser at verizon.net Fri Mar 3 15:19:22 2006 From: fredkaiser at verizon.net (Fred Kaiser) Date: Fri Mar 3 15:19:17 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Here pictures of Link 10 location on Fretless In-Reply-To: <001901c63ee8$14e1b970$660fa8c0@dell330> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20060303120553.00c45288@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20060303150305.00c51110@incoming.verizon.net> At 12:29 PM 3/3/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Fred, > >I'm just rising from the dead after a few days of flu bug. > >That's a very nice installation and excellent food for thought. Did you >include an on-board charger? If so, what kind? > >Thanks. > >PT Peter, I use a small 6 amp Guest Pro charger stored on the starboard peg board by the head. It's an older model but pretty much the same as the one listed at the top of page 521 in the new Boatus catalogue. Since we have shore power at the slip I can keep the battery fully charged just by plugging in the charger every couple of weeks. It also delivers a steady trickle charge to keep the battery topped off. Fred Kaiser Ft. Washington PA, Rock Hall MD 1991 R22 Fretless Swan Creek From trpclman at yahoo.com Fri Mar 3 14:13:07 2006 From: trpclman at yahoo.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Fri Mar 3 17:13:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] MOB, Mary Lou, Bud, Ebay Rhodes??, Wally, Luis In-Reply-To: <3221575.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20060303221307.71776.qmail@web54509.mail.yahoo.com> Ed, His name is Don Hoy. He keeps the boat in very good shape, but he has been too busy to sail. I seldom see him go out. Luis Tootle wrote: Mary Lou, You spoon fed the guy and he never thanked you. If you waited a few days and still get the SailNet advertizing look what they are promoting: http://shop.sailnet.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=safety+sling And who got the eBay Rhodes 22? Are they on the list? Wally, My '84 does not have the pannel nor the neat hook for the Spinnaker pole. My pole sits ok behind the edge of the peg board. Luis, Who sails the other 1982 next to your '75? Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/R22-Instrumentation-t1184803.html#a3221575 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com Fri Mar 3 20:36:24 2006 From: BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com (Robert and Sandra Fuller) Date: Fri Mar 3 20:36:34 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R 22 Instrumentation(and other goodies), long Message-ID: <000501c63f2c$0e242ac0$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Hi Luis, we keep the boat 1/2 mile north of Cortez Rd, just before you cross over to Anna Maria, at a marina, Cove Sound Moorings. Sailing for the past year has been mostly in Anna Maria sound, beating back and forth between the Cortez & Manatee bridges. Hope to venture down your way with the new boat. Bob F. From BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com Fri Mar 3 20:41:04 2006 From: BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com (Robert and Sandra Fuller) Date: Fri Mar 3 20:41:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R 22 Instrumentation(and other goodies), long Message-ID: <000501c63f2c$b4f342f0$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Bob, give me a heads up before you are back down and we will get out on the water. Have never stayed at the "pink palace", but have walked thru it. Posh! Bob F. From jbconnolly at comcast.net Sat Mar 4 11:46:00 2006 From: jbconnolly at comcast.net (jbconnolly@comcast.net) Date: Sat Mar 4 11:46:31 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Test Message-ID: <20060304164629.557157C010@web4.thecenturiongroup.com> testing wireless setup. From trpclman at yahoo.com Sat Mar 4 09:26:28 2006 From: trpclman at yahoo.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Sat Mar 4 12:26:30 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R 22 Instrumentation(and other goodies), long In-Reply-To: <000501c63f2c$0e242ac0$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Message-ID: <20060304172628.42968.qmail@web54505.mail.yahoo.com> Maybe we should plan a Rhodes rendevous. There is another Rhodie in the marina where I keep my boat and I know that there more of them around, but I have not seen anybody participating in the list. Robert and Sandra Fuller wrote: Hi Luis, we keep the boat 1/2 mile north of Cortez Rd, just before you cross over to Anna Maria, at a marina, Cove Sound Moorings. Sailing for the past year has been mostly in Anna Maria sound, beating back and forth between the Cortez & Manatee bridges. Hope to venture down your way with the new boat. Bob F. __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From ekroposki at charter.net Sat Mar 4 16:14:52 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sat Mar 4 19:14:57 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Test - _.._.._.. In-Reply-To: <20060304164629.557157C010@web4.thecenturiongroup.com> References: <20060304164629.557157C010@web4.thecenturiongroup.com> Message-ID: <3244206.post@talk.nabble.com> _.._.._.. ~ _.._.._..' -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Test-t1224999.html#a3244206 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From jbconnolly at comcast.net Sat Mar 4 20:38:00 2006 From: jbconnolly at comcast.net (jbconnolly@comcast.net) Date: Sat Mar 4 20:39:07 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Test - _.._.._.. Message-ID: <20060305013906.2CE707C011@web4.thecenturiongroup.com> My morse is more than rusty. How are you on semaphore? Jim Connolly s/v Inisheer -----Original Message----- From: Tootle Subj: [Rhodes22-list] Test - _.._.._.. Date: Sat Mar 4, 2006 7:14 pm Size: 268 bytes To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org _.._.._.. ~ _.._.._..' -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Test-t1224999.html#a3244206 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From DCLewis1 at aol.com Sat Mar 4 20:52:16 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 4 20:52:22 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte Message-ID: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> Folks, Back on Feb 9 I posted a request for input regarding sailing/retirement locales. A number of people responded. Several people suggested Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte (PG/PC). We visited PG/PC about 2 weeks ago on a swing down the east coast and I was surprised. - There was 1 power boat in the PG marina, no sail boats. For practical purposes it was empty. - I asked at the Chamber of Commerce (CoC) about the lack of boats and was told the marina had been closed for 2 years. It has to be dredged. I was told the plan was to open it next year - but the lady didn?t sound convinced of that. - We went to PG Isle to assess their beach and see the boating. The beach was minimal and clearly there was still a lot of debris from the hurricane that hit them 2 years ago. - While at the PG beach we saw one sail boat (~30') motor out of a canal, appear to run aground, turn around, and motor back into it?s canal. As I recall we saw no sail boats off shore out to the horizon. - We drove over to the PC beach. Same story. Somewhat bigger beach, but a lot of debris in the water. We saw 1 sail boat on the horizon. - We asked the PG CoC people about keeping a boat at PG. They said that if you wanted to do it NOW that you?d have to go out to the Burn?t Store Marina - which is about 15 to 20 minutes out of PG. The marina may be in the next county, it?s sure not in PG proper. - The Burnt Store Marina looked to be active, quite a number of boats and sailboats. But my problem is PG/PC. This is their high season, I?d expect to see a lot of boats. We saw basically none. The PG marina is closed and has been closed for a couple of years. Was the PG/PC sailing ground basically wiped out by the hurricane that hit them? It sure didn?t look active to me. What have I missed? Dave From ekroposki at charter.net Sat Mar 4 18:06:03 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sat Mar 4 21:06:08 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte In-Reply-To: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> References: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> Message-ID: <3244873.post@talk.nabble.com> Dave, I guess you may have discovered that you went to the wrong state. You should try, hum, I better not say... but in that state there were sailboats sailing today..., hum, where could that be? That is if you can stand sailing in full sun and 55-58 degree temps..., hum, where could that be? Oh, only moderate winds at 5-8 ..., hum, where could that be? Ed K USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Punta-Gorda-Port-Charlotte-t1226835.html#a3244873 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From pmaundrell at cinci.rr.com Sat Mar 4 21:30:32 2006 From: pmaundrell at cinci.rr.com (molly p. maundrell) Date: Sat Mar 4 21:30:20 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte References: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> <3244873.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <000901c63ffc$c9e42b40$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> I don't know how to request this again, but could someone take me off the mailing list!! Thanks Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tootle" To: Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte > > Dave, > I guess you may have discovered that you went to the wrong state. > You should try, hum, I better not say... but in that state there were > sailboats sailing today..., hum, where could that be? That is if you can > stand sailing in full sun and 55-58 degree temps..., hum, where could that > be? Oh, only moderate winds at 5-8 ..., hum, where could that be? > > Ed K > USA > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Punta-Gorda-Port-Charlotte-t1226835.html#a3244873 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From pmaundrell at cinci.rr.com Sat Mar 4 21:31:02 2006 From: pmaundrell at cinci.rr.com (molly p. maundrell) Date: Sat Mar 4 21:30:45 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte References: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> Message-ID: <000b01c63ffc$d8f5be50$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> Please take me off the mailing list. Thanks pat ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte Folks, Back on Feb 9 I posted a request for input regarding sailing/retirement locales. A number of people responded. Several people suggested Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte (PG/PC). We visited PG/PC about 2 weeks ago on a swing down the east coast and I was surprised. - There was 1 power boat in the PG marina, no sail boats. For practical purposes it was empty. - I asked at the Chamber of Commerce (CoC) about the lack of boats and was told the marina had been closed for 2 years. It has to be dredged. I was told the plan was to open it next year - but the lady didn?t sound convinced of that. - We went to PG Isle to assess their beach and see the boating. The beach was minimal and clearly there was still a lot of debris from the hurricane that hit them 2 years ago. - While at the PG beach we saw one sail boat (~30') motor out of a canal, appear to run aground, turn around, and motor back into it?s canal. As I recall we saw no sail boats off shore out to the horizon. - We drove over to the PC beach. Same story. Somewhat bigger beach, but a lot of debris in the water. We saw 1 sail boat on the horizon. - We asked the PG CoC people about keeping a boat at PG. They said that if you wanted to do it NOW that you?d have to go out to the Burn?t Store Marina - which is about 15 to 20 minutes out of PG. The marina may be in the next county, it?s sure not in PG proper. - The Burnt Store Marina looked to be active, quite a number of boats and sailboats. But my problem is PG/PC. This is their high season, I?d expect to see a lot of boats. We saw basically none. The PG marina is closed and has been closed for a couple of years. Was the PG/PC sailing ground basically wiped out by the hurricane that hit them? It sure didn?t look active to me. What have I missed? Dave __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From salm at mn.rr.com Sun Mar 5 02:26:29 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (Slim) Date: Sun Mar 5 03:18:19 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] For Molly In-Reply-To: <000b01c63ffc$d8f5be50$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> Message-ID: Molly, I'd like to help you but first a few questions: How and why did you get here in the first place? Do you own a Rhodes22? If not, would you like to own an R22? If you want to own, or already own an R22 then why do you want to be removed from this list? Where is your home port? What is your sailing experience? What is your occupation? (Submitting your 1099 is no longer required at this time.) After you've answered these questions to our satisfaction your request will be considered in the order in which it is received. Slim Customer Service Dept. From ekroposki at charter.net Sun Mar 5 04:51:11 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sun Mar 5 07:51:18 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Molly Pat Maundrell - question??? In-Reply-To: References: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> <000b01c63ffc$d8f5be50$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> Message-ID: <3248122.post@talk.nabble.com> Pat: Did you buy the Rhodes 22 on eBay??? Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Punta-Gorda-Port-Charlotte-t1226835.html#a3248122 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From bill at effros.com Sun Mar 5 08:10:21 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Sun Mar 5 08:10:29 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] For Molly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <440AE33D.8050703@effros.com> Slim, You da man. Sadly, the management is considering outsourcing your position to India. The President of the United States has recently said he thinks this will be good for you. Please rest assured that your fellow list members will continue to fight for your right to keep sending email like the one below. Bill Effros PS -- Ever notice that Brad always leaves the list when he can no longer even pretend to defend his stated positions? PPS -- Since Brad clearly understands how to enter and leave the list at will, maybe we should outsource your job to him by sending him Molly's email off-list? Slim wrote: > Molly, > > I'd like to help you but first a few questions: > > How and why did you get here in the first place? > > Do you own a Rhodes22? > > If not, would you like to own an R22? > > If you want to own, or already own an R22 then why do you want to be removed > from this list? > > Where is your home port? > > What is your sailing experience? > > What is your occupation? (Submitting your 1099 is no longer required at > this time.) > > After you've answered these questions to our satisfaction your request will > be considered in the order in which it is received. > > Slim > Customer Service Dept. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > From julie at circle7.net Sun Mar 5 07:49:45 2006 From: julie at circle7.net (Julie Thorndycraft) Date: Sun Mar 5 08:49:17 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte References: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> Message-ID: <001301c6405b$a9d0c1b0$6701a8c0@DJC3YR81> Dave, We chartered a sailboat from Yachting Vacations based at the Burnt Store Marina a few months after the hurricane hit. The area was severely damaged by the hurricane but the boats in the fleet survived fairly well. We were sailing between Christmas and New Year's and there were plenty of sailboats out - however, there were always more powerboats than sail. SW Florida is skinny water sailing so any boat that draws more than 4 - 5' will have problems periodically. It is an area that we would consider for retirement/sailing as there are plenty of islands to explore and it has easy access to the Keys and beyond. It would be an excellent sailing area for a Rhodes. Julie s/v Blue Loon ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 7:52 PM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte Folks, Back on Feb 9 I posted a request for input regarding sailing/retirement locales. A number of people responded. Several people suggested Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte (PG/PC). We visited PG/PC about 2 weeks ago on a swing down the east coast and I was surprised. - There was 1 power boat in the PG marina, no sail boats. For practical purposes it was empty. - I asked at the Chamber of Commerce (CoC) about the lack of boats and was told the marina had been closed for 2 years. It has to be dredged. I was told the plan was to open it next year - but the lady didn?t sound convinced of that. - We went to PG Isle to assess their beach and see the boating. The beach was minimal and clearly there was still a lot of debris from the hurricane that hit them 2 years ago. - While at the PG beach we saw one sail boat (~30') motor out of a canal, appear to run aground, turn around, and motor back into it?s canal. As I recall we saw no sail boats off shore out to the horizon. - We drove over to the PC beach. Same story. Somewhat bigger beach, but a lot of debris in the water. We saw 1 sail boat on the horizon. - We asked the PG CoC people about keeping a boat at PG. They said that if you wanted to do it NOW that you?d have to go out to the Burn?t Store Marina - which is about 15 to 20 minutes out of PG. The marina may be in the next county, it?s sure not in PG proper. - The Burnt Store Marina looked to be active, quite a number of boats and sailboats. But my problem is PG/PC. This is their high season, I?d expect to see a lot of boats. We saw basically none. The PG marina is closed and has been closed for a couple of years. Was the PG/PC sailing ground basically wiped out by the hurricane that hit them? It sure didn?t look active to me. What have I missed? Dave __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From pmaundrell at cinci.rr.com Sun Mar 5 09:50:46 2006 From: pmaundrell at cinci.rr.com (molly p. maundrell) Date: Sun Mar 5 09:50:28 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Molly Pat Maundrell - question??? References: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> <000b01c63ffc$d8f5be50$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> <3248122.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <000f01c64064$30172bd0$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> No, I was advised by Rhodes that this boat was probably to old! Thanks Pat. Original Message ----- From: "Tootle" To: Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 7:51 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Molly Pat Maundrell - question??? > > Pat: > > Did you buy the Rhodes 22 on eBay??? > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Punta-Gorda-Port-Charlotte-t1226835.html#a3248122 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From pmaundrell at cinci.rr.com Sun Mar 5 09:52:51 2006 From: pmaundrell at cinci.rr.com (molly p. maundrell) Date: Sun Mar 5 09:52:33 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] For Molly References: Message-ID: <001701c64064$7a4ece10$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> I was thinking about a Rhodes that was listed on E Bay. I changed my mind and didn't bid on that boat. Please remove my name from the mailing list. Thanks pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Slim" To: "Rhodes22-list" Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:26 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] For Molly > Molly, > > I'd like to help you but first a few questions: > > How and why did you get here in the first place? > > Do you own a Rhodes22? > > If not, would you like to own an R22? > > If you want to own, or already own an R22 then why do you want to be > removed > from this list? > > Where is your home port? > > What is your sailing experience? > > What is your occupation? (Submitting your 1099 is no longer required at > this time.) > > After you've answered these questions to our satisfaction your request > will > be considered in the order in which it is received. > > Slim > Customer Service Dept. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From rjquinn at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 5 11:11:12 2006 From: rjquinn at bellsouth.net (Robert Quinn) Date: Sun Mar 5 11:11:23 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte References: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> Message-ID: <001501c6406f$6c146020$6101a8c0@gatewaysystem> Dave: Did you get into Punta Gorda Isles? While we were sailing out of PGI in late 2003 and early 2004 (before Charlie) there were tons of sailboats. So much so in fact, we thought about relocating from the east coast of Florida to PGI. We sailed Charlotte Harbor quite often, spent one night at Burnt Store Marina for grins, and anchored off Cayo Costa Island several times over the near six months. We finally headed to Stuart in April of 2004 with a wonderful run from PGI, to Cayo Costa, Naples, Marco Island, Shark River, Marathon, Key West, back to Marathon, Matacombe (we had planned on going up the Hawk Channel but the winds were up so we cut over at Marathon and went up on the inside via Florida Bay), Pumpkin Key, through Biscayne Bay to Miami's No Name Harbor, Ft. Lauderdale, Lake Worth (Palm Beach), and to Stuart. We were over to PGI last Spring and visited the homes where our sailboat was berthed while in PGI and saw, once again, tons of sailboats but tied up behind homes. We did see several out on Charlotte Harbor sailing. I don't know if you just hit the area at a bad time or what. Try calling a fellow by the name of Tim Gower @ 941 637-8111 He is the broker who helped us. He may be able to give you an update on sailing conditions in the area as he owns a Cabo Rico. In the meantime, we still love the southeast coast of Florida. Bob on the "NoKaOi" ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte Folks, Back on Feb 9 I posted a request for input regarding sailing/retirement locales. A number of people responded. Several people suggested Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte (PG/PC). We visited PG/PC about 2 weeks ago on a swing down the east coast and I was surprised. - There was 1 power boat in the PG marina, no sail boats. For practical purposes it was empty. - I asked at the Chamber of Commerce (CoC) about the lack of boats and was told the marina had been closed for 2 years. It has to be dredged. I was told the plan was to open it next year - but the lady didn?t sound convinced of that. - We went to PG Isle to assess their beach and see the boating. The beach was minimal and clearly there was still a lot of debris from the hurricane that hit them 2 years ago. - While at the PG beach we saw one sail boat (~30') motor out of a canal, appear to run aground, turn around, and motor back into it?s canal. As I recall we saw no sail boats off shore out to the horizon. - We drove over to the PC beach. Same story. Somewhat bigger beach, but a lot of debris in the water. We saw 1 sail boat on the horizon. - We asked the PG CoC people about keeping a boat at PG. They said that if you wanted to do it NOW that you?d have to go out to the Burn?t Store Marina - which is about 15 to 20 minutes out of PG. The marina may be in the next county, it?s sure not in PG proper. - The Burnt Store Marina looked to be active, quite a number of boats and sailboats. But my problem is PG/PC. This is their high season, I?d expect to see a lot of boats. We saw basically none. The PG marina is closed and has been closed for a couple of years. Was the PG/PC sailing ground basically wiped out by the hurricane that hit them? It sure didn?t look active to me. What have I missed? Dave __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From sanderico at earthlink.net Sun Mar 5 10:33:41 2006 From: sanderico at earthlink.net (Rik Sandberg) Date: Sun Mar 5 11:33:48 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] For Molly In-Reply-To: <001701c64064$7a4ece10$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> References: <001701c64064$7a4ece10$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> Message-ID: <440B12E5.8020800@earthlink.net> Pat, Uhhhh...... what makes you think that we, the other lowly members of this list, have the authority or even the capability to remove someone else's name from the list? I believe Slim asked a pertinent question just a little while ago. It was, "how did you get on the list in the first place?" That might be a heck of a place to start looking at how to get off. Apparently you haven't noticed the help link at the bottom of any of these messages? Rik molly p. maundrell wrote: > I was thinking about a Rhodes that was listed on E Bay. I changed my > mind and didn't bid on that boat. Please remove my name from the > mailing list. > > > Thanks pat > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Slim" > To: "Rhodes22-list" > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:26 AM > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] For Molly > > >> Molly, >> >> I'd like to help you but first a few questions: >> >> How and why did you get here in the first place? >> >> Do you own a Rhodes22? >> >> If not, would you like to own an R22? >> >> If you want to own, or already own an R22 then why do you want to be >> removed >> from this list? >> >> Where is your home port? >> >> What is your sailing experience? >> >> What is your occupation? (Submitting your 1099 is no longer required at >> this time.) >> >> After you've answered these questions to our satisfaction your >> request will >> be considered in the order in which it is received. >> >> Slim >> Customer Service Dept. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From ekroposki at charter.net Sun Mar 5 09:21:38 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sun Mar 5 12:21:46 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pat Maundrell - another question??? In-Reply-To: <000f01c64064$30172bd0$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> References: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> <000b01c63ffc$d8f5be50$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> <3248122.post@talk.nabble.com> <000f01c64064$30172bd0$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> Message-ID: <3250373.post@talk.nabble.com> Pat, You speak with so few words. The Rhodes 22 list is a unique place on the internet. You have found a place where there are over a hundred people with experience with sailboats and especially sailboats referred to as pocket cruisers, specifically, the Rhodes 22. You stated that Rhodes told you that the boat is too old? Was that Phil Rhodes who told you that? Phil Rhodes was the designer of the the Rhodes 22. If you are interested in sailing and sailboats, you miight just want to stick around on this email list for a while. If you were interested in bidding on a sailboat, you must have been interested in the boat? Have you heard the word "Blog"? This email list is a specialized blog about sailing and the Rhodes 22 in particular. Let the cat out of the bag and tell us why you asked in the first place. And which Rhodes told you the boat was too old? There are many on this list with boats made in 1974, 1975, 1976, and up. Somebody insulted them calling their boats "old". Who did this insult? Since you repeated the insult, it is only fair that you tell us who did that dasterly deed. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Punta-Gorda-Port-Charlotte-t1226835.html#a3250373 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From pthorn at nc.rr.com Sun Mar 5 12:50:49 2006 From: pthorn at nc.rr.com (Peter Thorn) Date: Sun Mar 5 12:51:49 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sssh! (Lake Hartwell) References: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> <3244873.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <001001c6407d$56d38430$660fa8c0@dell330> Ed, It looks like somebody spilled the Lake Hartwell beans in Raleigh/Durham. The Isotope catamaran fleet from our club www.carolinasailingclub.org is traveling there for a "Spring Fever" regatta over tax weekend 4/15-16. Do you know about this race? They have it listed as "Lake Hartwell, GA". Could this be a clever SC trick intended to confuse and disguise, or does GA have some too? PT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tootle" To: Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte > > Dave, > I guess you may have discovered that you went to the wrong state. > You should try, hum, I better not say... but in that state there were > sailboats sailing today..., hum, where could that be? That is if you can > stand sailing in full sun and 55-58 degree temps..., hum, where could that > be? Oh, only moderate winds at 5-8 ..., hum, where could that be? > > Ed K > USA > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Punta-Gorda-Port-Charlotte-t1226835.html#a3244873 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From DCLewis1 at aol.com Sun Mar 5 14:45:44 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 5 14:45:50 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte Message-ID: <2be.6126b27.313c99e8@aol.com> Julie, Bob, and Ed, Thanks for your responses re the PG/PC sailing area. Julie: I think we?re in agreement. The area down by Burnt Stores Marina seems to be an active sailing area. My focus was PG/PC per se and we didn?t see anything there. Also, fwiw, as we drove down Burnt Store Road, to get to Burnt Store Marina, we saw a huge amount of land clearing. I gather the plan is to widen that road substantially ( I think the CoC lady said 4 lanes) and build hotels, resorts, and condos on each side of the road. It?s going to get very crowded. Bob: We did visit Punta Gorda Isle, that?s where we saw the one boat motor out of a canal, appear to run aground, and return to the canal. Like you, we saw bunches of sailboats, and power boats, behind a the houses on canals - but we didn?t see any on the water. And we know the marina was closed. It could be that the bigger boats are locked in until the harbor is dredged. Clearly, we might have just hit a bad time - although I can?t imagine why late Fri morning and Fri aft in Feb would be a bad time in PG/PC, but it could be. I? m just curious, if that were a Fri aft on the Chesapeake in high summer there would have been a small fleet out there. I may touch base with Tim Gower, as you suggested, but clearly, the PG marina is closed, and if the PG CoC lady is vectoring visitors out of town there?s a problem. Ed: I caught your drift. We plan to swing through the lakes. One problem with the inland lake environment is that temperature is much more variable. It can get cold. Also, some lake areas are sort of isolated, we'd like to have easy access to Class A health care facilities, etc. But lakes are on our list. Incidentally, you suggested Amelia Island in an earlier post. We checked that out. My impression is that area is pretty much a delta. Often VERY shallow water except for canals that boats use for ingress/egress. There is likely good sailing off-shore, but it may take a couple miles passage through canals to get there. Also, there is the Nassau river (I think that was the name) that looked pretty good, but it?s a commercial shipping venue. Finally, there is a smallish (~ 6mi) area up around Brunswick that?s open water, but again there are those narrow dredged sailing canals to deal with. My sense is there is better sailing elsewhere. Our trip was interesting. I think our bottom line with PG/PC was there is good sailing, but it?s about 10 to 15 mi south of PG/PC around the Burnt Store Marina area, not immediately adjacent to PG/PC. Also, there is a lot of development going into the area - even as older buildings damaged in the last hurricane haven't been refurbished or torn down. Dave From pmaundrell at cinci.rr.com Sun Mar 5 16:07:33 2006 From: pmaundrell at cinci.rr.com (molly p. maundrell) Date: Sun Mar 5 16:07:16 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pat Maundrell - another question??? References: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> <000b01c63ffc$d8f5be50$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> <3248122.post@talk.nabble.com> <000f01c64064$30172bd0$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> <3250373.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <000d01c64098$d2a938f0$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> I am new to sailing and only know Rhodes boat by reputation, which of course is very good. I am looking for a traileable sailboat with a nice size cabin, in the 19-24 foot range. During my search, which I also used to educating myself on what features/style and design I liked, I soon realized what turned me on. That being a boat which character and charm! I was surprised to learn how hard it is to find these characteristics on most boat, especially the newer models. I When I found the Rhodes 22 boat on e bay, I thought it might be an opportunity to have one of these classics. However, when I reviewed the overall condition, (which I estimated to be a 3, on a 1-10 scale) , I realized that the boat was going to need more work and dollars than it was probably worth. It is for this reason that I decided not to go ahead and bid on this boat. The guy I talk to a the marina was very helpful and honest in telling me all he knew about the boat. Since this is my wife's e mail, and I am taking up to much space with all the info I receive from various boat inquires, I must limit my sources. Although I enjoy reading all your comments, I must ask to me removed from your list. Thanks Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tootle" To: Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pat Maundrell - another question??? > > Pat, > You speak with so few words. The Rhodes 22 list is a unique place on > the internet. You have found a place where there are over a hundred > people > with experience with sailboats and especially sailboats referred to as > pocket cruisers, specifically, the Rhodes 22. > You stated that Rhodes told you that the boat is too old? Was that > Phil Rhodes who told you that? Phil Rhodes was the designer of the the > Rhodes 22. > If you are interested in sailing and sailboats, you miight just want > to stick around on this email list for a while. If you were interested in > bidding on a sailboat, you must have been interested in the boat? > Have you heard the word "Blog"? This email list is a specialized > blog about sailing and the Rhodes 22 in particular. Let the cat out of > the > bag and tell us why you asked in the first place. > And which Rhodes told you the boat was too old? There are many on > this list with boats made in 1974, 1975, 1976, and up. Somebody insulted > them calling their boats "old". Who did this insult? Since you repeated > the insult, it is only fair that you tell us who did that dasterly deed. > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Punta-Gorda-Port-Charlotte-t1226835.html#a3250373 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From rjquinn at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 5 16:34:52 2006 From: rjquinn at bellsouth.net (Robert Quinn) Date: Sun Mar 5 16:35:01 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte References: <2be.6126b27.313c99e8@aol.com> Message-ID: <001d01c6409c$a3d79bd0$6101a8c0@gatewaysystem> Dave: We made the same observation that it is taking a seemingly long time to get things cleaned up and going in the Punta Gorda area. Also note that although you drove the 15 or so miles to the Burnt Store Marina, the sailing starts at the highway 41 (I think) bridge and goes all the way out to the cut at Boca Grande on Charlotte Harbor. With an R22 you can even sail to the east of the bridge. Burnt Store has become a big dollar enclave and only promises to get more so. I was surprised to hear about a boat grounding going out the canal but with the storm anything is possible. We were well tucked in in PGI and motored out through the canal system on the north side many times with no problems. Our current Tartan draws 4.3 with the board up. As to the marina at the end of Punta Gorda, as you noted it has been closed for several years. The area there is a big tourist area with restaurants and shops. I believe a few tour boats still ply out of there but the winter tie up boats have not been there is a couple of years. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte Julie, Bob, and Ed, Thanks for your responses re the PG/PC sailing area. Julie: I think we?re in agreement. The area down by Burnt Stores Marina seems to be an active sailing area. My focus was PG/PC per se and we didn?t see anything there. Also, fwiw, as we drove down Burnt Store Road, to get to Burnt Store Marina, we saw a huge amount of land clearing. I gather the plan is to widen that road substantially ( I think the CoC lady said 4 lanes) and build hotels, resorts, and condos on each side of the road. It?s going to get very crowded. Bob: We did visit Punta Gorda Isle, that?s where we saw the one boat motor out of a canal, appear to run aground, and return to the canal. Like you, we saw bunches of sailboats, and power boats, behind a the houses on canals - but we didn?t see any on the water. And we know the marina was closed. It could be that the bigger boats are locked in until the harbor is dredged. Clearly, we might have just hit a bad time - although I can?t imagine why late Fri morning and Fri aft in Feb would be a bad time in PG/PC, but it could be. I? m just curious, if that were a Fri aft on the Chesapeake in high summer there would have been a small fleet out there. I may touch base with Tim Gower, as you suggested, but clearly, the PG marina is closed, and if the PG CoC lady is vectoring visitors out of town there?s a problem. Ed: I caught your drift. We plan to swing through the lakes. One problem with the inland lake environment is that temperature is much more variable. It can get cold. Also, some lake areas are sort of isolated, we'd like to have easy access to Class A health care facilities, etc. But lakes are on our list. Incidentally, you suggested Amelia Island in an earlier post. We checked that out. My impression is that area is pretty much a delta. Often VERY shallow water except for canals that boats use for ingress/egress. There is likely good sailing off-shore, but it may take a couple miles passage through canals to get there. Also, there is the Nassau river (I think that was the name) that looked pretty good, but it?s a commercial shipping venue. Finally, there is a smallish (~ 6mi) area up around Brunswick that?s open water, but again there are those narrow dredged sailing canals to deal with. My sense is there is better sailing elsewhere. Our trip was interesting. I think our bottom line with PG/PC was there is good sailing, but it?s about 10 to 15 mi south of PG/PC around the Burnt Store Marina area, not immediately adjacent to PG/PC. Also, there is a lot of development going into the area - even as older buildings damaged in the last hurricane haven't been refurbished or torn down. Dave __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sun Mar 5 17:59:09 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 5 17:59:26 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sssh! (Lake Hartwell) Message-ID: <1fd.11d56b91.313cc73d@aol.com> PT, The Isotope races are an annual event and they sail out the Hartwell Marina, Hartwell, Georgia. Rummy From BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com Sun Mar 5 19:14:06 2006 From: BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com (Robert and Sandra Fuller) Date: Sun Mar 5 19:14:14 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R 22 Instrumentation(and other goodies), long Message-ID: <000501c640b2$e3b0a9c0$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Luis, sounds good to me. Bob F. From BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com Sun Mar 5 19:18:47 2006 From: BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com (Robert and Sandra Fuller) Date: Sun Mar 5 19:18:58 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte Message-ID: <000501c640b3$8c2cd5b0$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Dave, consider going to the Precision board & contacting Tom Scott. He is an expert sailor who lives/sails out of Charlotte. I have always found him very gracious in responding to any sailing question. Bob F. From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Sun Mar 5 19:53:28 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Sun Mar 5 19:53:47 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pat Maundrell - another question??? In-Reply-To: <000d01c64098$d2a938f0$0b00a8c0@mollycomputer> Message-ID: <034201c640b8$61adfb70$6401a8c0@mjm2> Well I am a computer consultant, so that means I will do anything for money, Like remove people from the list. To some extent consider this a boat lessen "as in what you can not do for yourself the yard will be happy to charge you for". I give you the list one hour rate(need to recover my marketing) payable to paypal. SO either read the email that you got when you got on the list and/or the help link at the bottom. Or like any 12 step program the first step is admitting that you have a reading and compression problem and pay the money. Their is a third way, something along the lines of returning the computer to the store. Which reminds me of a story: I hope this is not giving you a simplex. Now you might ask what is a simplex? My older sister keep telling my middle sister that she "had a simplex" and she would go on to explain "well most people would get a complex, but she is so simple that she could only get a simplex". Now You Might want to claim ADA, Your writing indicates an understand for the written word, so teasing you to read the directions seems like fun, but if you are truly disabled that puts an other spin on it, please inform. -mjm PS. Please let me know if you need wire instructions for payment. > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of molly p. maundrell > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 4:08 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pat Maundrell - another question??? > > I am new to sailing and only know Rhodes boat by reputation, which of > course is very good. > > I am looking for a traileable sailboat with a nice size cabin, in the 19- > 24 > foot range. During my search, which I also used to educating myself on > what > features/style and design I liked, I soon realized what turned me on. That > being a boat which character and charm! I was surprised to learn how hard > it > is to find these characteristics on most boat, especially the newer > models. > I When I found the Rhodes 22 boat on e bay, I thought it might be an > opportunity to have one of these classics. However, when I reviewed the > overall condition, (which I estimated to be a 3, on a 1-10 scale) , I > realized that the boat was going to need more work and dollars than it was > probably worth. It is for this reason that I decided not to go ahead and > bid > on this boat. The guy I talk to a the marina was very helpful and honest > in > telling me all he knew about the boat. > > Since this is my wife's e mail, and I am taking up to much space with all > the info I receive from various boat inquires, I must limit my sources. > Although I enjoy reading all your comments, I must ask to me removed from > your list. > > Thanks Pat > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tootle" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:21 PM > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pat Maundrell - another question??? > > > > > > Pat, > > You speak with so few words. The Rhodes 22 list is a unique place > on > > the internet. You have found a place where there are over a hundred > > people > > with experience with sailboats and especially sailboats referred to as > > pocket cruisers, specifically, the Rhodes 22. > > You stated that Rhodes told you that the boat is too old? Was > that > > Phil Rhodes who told you that? Phil Rhodes was the designer of the the > > Rhodes 22. > > If you are interested in sailing and sailboats, you miight just > want > > to stick around on this email list for a while. If you were interested > in > > bidding on a sailboat, you must have been interested in the boat? > > Have you heard the word "Blog"? This email list is a specialized > > blog about sailing and the Rhodes 22 in particular. Let the cat out of > > the > > bag and tell us why you asked in the first place. > > And which Rhodes told you the boat was too old? There are many > on > > this list with boats made in 1974, 1975, 1976, and up. Somebody > insulted > > them calling their boats "old". Who did this insult? Since you > repeated > > the insult, it is only fair that you tell us who did that dasterly deed. > > > > Ed K > > Greenville, SC, USA > > -- > > View this message in context: > > http://www.nabble.com/Punta-Gorda-Port-Charlotte-t1226835.html#a3250373 > > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Sun Mar 5 20:49:45 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (ed kroposki) Date: Sun Mar 5 20:50:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Upstate South Carolin Health Facilities Message-ID: <000001c640c0$4535a580$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Dave: Upstate South Carolina is not exactly back woods. I could go into the companies located between Anderson, Greenville and Spartanburg, called the I-85 corridor. Medical facilities are uptodate and quite aggressive in being recognized as top of line facilities. You can study the three major hospital conglomerations in the upstate and see their working relationships with other nationally recognized health care institutions. Let me start with what we call the Greenville Hospital System with its main campus called Greenville Memorial. It has other campuses called North Greenville, Patewood, Allen Bennett in Greer, and Hillcrest in Simpsonville. Read about it at: http://www.ghs.org/ and note the upper left corner of their home page. Then there is Rummy's group of facilities that serve Anderson and Hartwell, Ga. See: http://www.anmed.com/ . To the east is Spartanburg Regional: http://www.srhs.com/ Understand this does not include smaller county systems in the metropolitan area such as Cannon in Pickens, Oconee in Seneca, Laurens between Laurens and Clinton, Self Memorial in Greenwood. Then come the private and charitable hospitals such as my employer: http://www.stfrancishealth.com/ in Greenville, Mary Black Hospital in Spartanburg and Easley Baptist. Naturally this list did not include county health departments, free clinics and the enterprising doctors facilities that in some cases are little hospitals. Health care you said? Well I spent years working with a group of local oncologist who I know are able to give cancer care that is equal or better than the best in any other part of the country. In fact they often share studies and treatments with the best in the world. If you want me to go on in this discussion, I am knowledgeable in comparing local facilities with several other major American cities, Canada, England and Ukraine. The Doctor who lives across the street works in the Emergency Department of GMH. The Doctor whose backyard abuts mine is a nationally recognized endocrinologist. If you want me to go down the street and around the block, there are more. I suspect that the local health care facilities compare with or are better than 98% of the other places that you might consider. And you would have to include Duke in North Carolina and Anderson in Dallas, Texas. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA From czerwonky at earthlink.net Sun Mar 5 23:40:20 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Sun Mar 5 23:40:26 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sssh! (Lake Hartwell) Message-ID: <21048830.1141620020686.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Peter, I am convinced that Prof K did it all. We in Georgia would just not stoop to such levels... Art -----Original Message----- >From: Peter Thorn >Sent: Mar 5, 2006 12:50 PM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sssh! (Lake Hartwell) > >Ed, > >It looks like somebody spilled the Lake Hartwell beans in Raleigh/Durham. >The Isotope catamaran fleet from our club www.carolinasailingclub.org is >traveling there for a "Spring Fever" regatta over tax weekend 4/15-16. Do >you know about this race? They have it listed as "Lake Hartwell, GA". >Could this be a clever SC trick intended to confuse and disguise, or does GA >have some too? > >PT > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tootle" >To: >Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:06 PM >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte > > >> >> Dave, >> I guess you may have discovered that you went to the wrong state. >> You should try, hum, I better not say... but in that state there were >> sailboats sailing today..., hum, where could that be? That is if you can >> stand sailing in full sun and 55-58 degree temps..., hum, where could that >> be? Oh, only moderate winds at 5-8 ..., hum, where could that be? >> >> Ed K >> USA >> -- >> View this message in context: >http://www.nabble.com/Punta-Gorda-Port-Charlotte-t1226835.html#a3244873 >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Sun Mar 5 23:48:47 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Sun Mar 5 23:48:49 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlott ate Message-ID: <3505183.1141620528001.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Dave, Thoughts on lake sailing, very different from coastal with winds. We have Lake Lanier in Atlanta, actually Gainesville, 30 miles away. Hartwell is 60 miles from Lanier along I-85. Even though a more crowded venue, the level of sailing activity is higher at Lanier. Art -----Original Message----- >From: DCLewis1@aol.com >Sent: Mar 5, 2006 2:45 PM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte > > >Julie, Bob, and Ed, > >Thanks for your responses re the PG/PC sailing area. > >Julie: I think we?re in agreement. The area down by Burnt Stores Marina >seems to be an active sailing area. My focus was PG/PC per se and we didn?t see >anything there. Also, fwiw, as we drove down Burnt Store Road, to get to >Burnt Store Marina, we saw a huge amount of land clearing. I gather the plan >is to widen that road substantially ( I think the CoC lady said 4 lanes) and >build hotels, resorts, and condos on each side of the road. It?s going to get >very crowded. > >Bob: We did visit Punta Gorda Isle, that?s where we saw the one boat motor >out of a canal, appear to run aground, and return to the canal. Like you, we >saw bunches of sailboats, and power boats, behind a the houses on canals - >but we didn?t see any on the water. And we know the marina was closed. It >could be that the bigger boats are locked in until the harbor is dredged. >Clearly, we might have just hit a bad time - although I can?t imagine why late Fri >morning and Fri aft in Feb would be a bad time in PG/PC, but it could be. I? >m just curious, if that were a Fri aft on the Chesapeake in high summer >there would have been a small fleet out there. I may touch base with Tim Gower, >as you suggested, but clearly, the PG marina is closed, and if the PG CoC >lady is vectoring visitors out of town there?s a problem. > >Ed: I caught your drift. We plan to swing through the lakes. One problem >with the inland lake environment is that temperature is much more variable. >It can get cold. Also, some lake areas are sort of isolated, we'd like to >have easy access to Class A health care facilities, etc. But lakes are on our >list. > >Incidentally, you suggested Amelia Island in an earlier post. We checked >that out. My impression is that area is pretty much a delta. Often VERY >shallow water except for canals that boats use for ingress/egress. There is >likely good sailing off-shore, but it may take a couple miles passage through >canals to get there. Also, there is the Nassau river (I think that was the name) >that looked pretty good, but it?s a commercial shipping venue. Finally, >there is a smallish (~ 6mi) area up around Brunswick that?s open water, but >again there are those narrow dredged sailing canals to deal with. My sense is >there is better sailing elsewhere. > >Our trip was interesting. I think our bottom line with PG/PC was there is >good sailing, but it?s about 10 to 15 mi south of PG/PC around the Burnt Store >Marina area, not immediately adjacent to PG/PC. Also, there is a lot of >development going into the area - even as older buildings damaged in the last >hurricane haven't been refurbished or torn down. > >Dave >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Sun Mar 5 23:58:13 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Sun Mar 5 23:58:15 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pat Maundrell - another question??? Message-ID: <17866504.1141621093901.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Pat, If you are looking for quality I would hang in there. When an R22 becomes available, the word gets around on this source quickly. You'll get an excellent sense of the cohesion within this large fleet. Have you talked turkey with Stan at General Boats in Edenton? Don't compromise the enjoyment of your sailing. Most of the ISPs have provision for more than one email, just get your own address. Cheers, Art -----Original Message----- >From: "molly p. maundrell" >Sent: Mar 5, 2006 4:07 PM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pat Maundrell - another question??? > > I am new to sailing and only know Rhodes boat by reputation, which of >course is very good. > >I am looking for a traileable sailboat with a nice size cabin, in the 19-24 >foot range. During my search, which I also used to educating myself on what >features/style and design I liked, I soon realized what turned me on. That >being a boat which character and charm! I was surprised to learn how hard it >is to find these characteristics on most boat, especially the newer models. >I When I found the Rhodes 22 boat on e bay, I thought it might be an >opportunity to have one of these classics. However, when I reviewed the >overall condition, (which I estimated to be a 3, on a 1-10 scale) , I >realized that the boat was going to need more work and dollars than it was >probably worth. It is for this reason that I decided not to go ahead and bid >on this boat. The guy I talk to a the marina was very helpful and honest in >telling me all he knew about the boat. > >Since this is my wife's e mail, and I am taking up to much space with all >the info I receive from various boat inquires, I must limit my sources. >Although I enjoy reading all your comments, I must ask to me removed from >your list. > >Thanks Pat > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tootle" >To: >Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:21 PM >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pat Maundrell - another question??? > > >> >> Pat, >> You speak with so few words. The Rhodes 22 list is a unique place on >> the internet. You have found a place where there are over a hundred >> people >> with experience with sailboats and especially sailboats referred to as >> pocket cruisers, specifically, the Rhodes 22. >> You stated that Rhodes told you that the boat is too old? Was that >> Phil Rhodes who told you that? Phil Rhodes was the designer of the the >> Rhodes 22. >> If you are interested in sailing and sailboats, you miight just want >> to stick around on this email list for a while. If you were interested in >> bidding on a sailboat, you must have been interested in the boat? >> Have you heard the word "Blog"? This email list is a specialized >> blog about sailing and the Rhodes 22 in particular. Let the cat out of >> the >> bag and tell us why you asked in the first place. >> And which Rhodes told you the boat was too old? There are many on >> this list with boats made in 1974, 1975, 1976, and up. Somebody insulted >> them calling their boats "old". Who did this insult? Since you repeated >> the insult, it is only fair that you tell us who did that dasterly deed. >> >> Ed K >> Greenville, SC, USA >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Punta-Gorda-Port-Charlotte-t1226835.html#a3250373 >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From hnw555 at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 00:31:26 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Mon Mar 6 00:31:29 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Quote from the Oscars - Funny Political Message-ID: I found this quote from tonight's Oscar ceremony and I thought y'all might enjoy it. "I have to say it is a little shocking to see all these big names here, these huge stars. The Oscars is really I guess the one night of the year when you can see all your favorite stars without having to donate any money to the Democratic Party. And it's exciting for the stars as well because it's the first time many of you have ever voted for a winner." - Oscar host Jon Stewart during the opening monologue. Hank From tnrhodey at hotmail.com Mon Mar 6 08:01:01 2006 From: tnrhodey at hotmail.com (TN Rhodey) Date: Mon Mar 6 08:01:05 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte In-Reply-To: <000501c640b3$8c2cd5b0$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Message-ID: Bob F, I have exchanged a few emails with Tom off list. You are correct. I am sure he could answer any questions about sailing in the area. Wally >From: "Robert and Sandra Fuller" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte >Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:18:47 -0500 > >Dave, consider going to the Precision board & contacting Tom Scott. He is >an expert sailor who lives/sails out of Charlotte. I have always found him >very gracious in responding to any sailing question. >Bob F. >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From trpclman at yahoo.com Mon Mar 6 08:41:24 2006 From: trpclman at yahoo.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Mon Mar 6 11:41:27 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte In-Reply-To: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> Message-ID: <20060306164124.57119.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Dave, You should take a look at the Sarasota/Bradenton area. There are lots of Marinas, lots of sailboats, and lots of places to go without running aground. Luis DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: Folks, Back on Feb 9 I posted a request for input regarding sailing/retirement locales. A number of people responded. Several people suggested Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte (PG/PC). We visited PG/PC about 2 weeks ago on a swing down the east coast and I was surprised. - There was 1 power boat in the PG marina, no sail boats. For practical purposes it was empty. - I asked at the Chamber of Commerce (CoC) about the lack of boats and was told the marina had been closed for 2 years. It has to be dredged. I was told the plan was to open it next year - but the lady didn???t sound convinced of that. - We went to PG Isle to assess their beach and see the boating. The beach was minimal and clearly there was still a lot of debris from the hurricane that hit them 2 years ago. - While at the PG beach we saw one sail boat (~30') motor out of a canal, appear to run aground, turn around, and motor back into it???s canal. As I recall we saw no sail boats off shore out to the horizon. - We drove over to the PC beach. Same story. Somewhat bigger beach, but a lot of debris in the water. We saw 1 sail boat on the horizon. - We asked the PG CoC people about keeping a boat at PG. They said that if you wanted to do it NOW that you???d have to go out to the Burn???t Store Marina - which is about 15 to 20 minutes out of PG. The marina may be in the next county, it???s sure not in PG proper. - The Burnt Store Marina looked to be active, quite a number of boats and sailboats. But my problem is PG/PC. This is their high season, I???d expect to see a lot of boats. We saw basically none. The PG marina is closed and has been closed for a couple of years. Was the PG/PC sailing ground basically wiped out by the hurricane that hit them? It sure didn???t look active to me. What have I missed? Dave __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From rlowe at vt.edu Mon Mar 6 12:17:27 2006 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Rob Lowe) Date: Mon Mar 6 12:17:34 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Here pictures of Link 10 location on Fretless References: <2b6.58f32ff.31390f1b@aol.com> Message-ID: <01a501c64141$d964a810$58ac52c6@ehss.vt.edu> Rummy, I noticed that too. Actually using the peg board to stow stuff on. I always figured the material was peg board to allow for ventilation. But to the use the peg board as peg board? BRILLIANT. Off to buy some hooks. - rob > > Mary Lou, > One thing I liked that I saw in the picture was the way you used the peg > board to store your whisker pole. Why haven't I thought of that? BRILLIANT > > Rummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Mon Mar 6 12:45:58 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Mon Mar 6 13:03:17 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte Message-ID: <13795886.1141667158880.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Luis, Where would you suggest the best marina is for rates and ease of in and out. Will they let you park the trailer on site? Any dry storage with mast up? I agree with you on location, awesome. Are you getting serious calls about the rental? Art -----Original Message----- >From: Luis Guzman >Sent: Mar 6, 2006 11:41 AM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte > >Dave, > > You should take a look at the Sarasota/Bradenton area. There are lots of Marinas, lots of sailboats, and lots of places to go without running aground. > > Luis > >DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > >Folks, > >Back on Feb 9 I posted a request for input regarding sailing/retirement >locales. A number of people responded. Several people suggested Punta >Gorda/Port Charlotte (PG/PC). > >We visited PG/PC about 2 weeks ago on a swing down the east coast and I was >surprised. > >- There was 1 power boat in the PG marina, no sail boats. For practical >purposes it was empty. >- I asked at the Chamber of Commerce (CoC) about the lack of boats and was >told the marina had been closed for 2 years. It has to be dredged. I was >told the plan was to open it next year - but the lady didn???t sound convinced of >that. >- We went to PG Isle to assess their beach and see the boating. The beach >was minimal and clearly there was still a lot of debris from the hurricane >that hit them 2 years ago. >- While at the PG beach we saw one sail boat (~30') motor out of a canal, >appear to run aground, turn around, and motor back into it???s canal. As I >recall we saw no sail boats off shore out to the horizon. >- We drove over to the PC beach. Same story. Somewhat bigger beach, but a >lot of debris in the water. We saw 1 sail boat on the horizon. >- We asked the PG CoC people about keeping a boat at PG. They said that if >you wanted to do it NOW that you???d have to go out to the Burn???t Store Marina >- which is about 15 to 20 minutes out of PG. The marina may be in the next >county, it???s sure not in PG proper. >- The Burnt Store Marina looked to be active, quite a number of boats and >sailboats. > >But my problem is PG/PC. This is their high season, I???d expect to see a lot >of boats. We saw basically none. The PG marina is closed and has been >closed for a couple of years. > >Was the PG/PC sailing ground basically wiped out by the hurricane that hit >them? It sure didn???t look active to me. What have I missed? > >Dave >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > >--------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From DCLewis1 at aol.com Mon Mar 6 15:38:03 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 6 15:38:26 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte Message-ID: <25d.800193e.313df7ab@aol.com> Ed, Thanks for your post regarding healthcare facilities, it was helpful. Hartwell is on our list, as is Keowee. Bob, You suggested I contact Tom Scott on the Precision Board re Punta Gorda. Are you referring to the Precision Board on TrailerSailor, or another board? Art, Thanks for your input. Would you care to expand on the differences between lake and coastal sailing? I've only sailed on the Chesapeake, and with a much small boat, Kerr Lake and local ponds. Re Lanier, we?ve gotten mixed signals; it?s well located, but I gather its also very well developed. It?s proximity to Atlanta cuts both ways. Checking the www, Lanier gets 7.5 million visitors each year; sounds like a crowd, but I?ll check further. Luis, I think you?re right regarding Sarasota/Bradenton. As we traveled up the coast from PG/PC we heard that Sarasota Bay was really a great place to sail and keep a boat. We looked at Sarasota on our last trek and decided that it would be a great place to visit: the town is beautiful and there are a lot of things to do. However, we concluded there were a whole lot of visitors everywhere. It reminded us of an upscale and well kept beach resort, as opposed to a residential community. I think we?ll look forward to trailering in to Sarasota to sail, or perhaps renting your boat. Thanks to everyone for your input, it's helpful. Dave From BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com Mon Mar 6 19:49:01 2006 From: BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com (Robert and Sandra Fuller) Date: Mon Mar 6 19:49:11 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte Message-ID: <000501c64180$ed6eaab0$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Dave, Yes, the Precision board on TrailerSailor. Bob F. From ekroposki at charter.net Mon Mar 6 19:21:31 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Mon Mar 6 22:21:36 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Hey Dave, look here too... In-Reply-To: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> References: <1d6.4f88178f.313b9e50@aol.com> Message-ID: <3274520.post@talk.nabble.com> Dave, As long as you are looking around, check the size of this lake: http://www.sas.usace.army.mil/lakes/thurmond/ And there is a big 'Retirement' called Savannah Lakes: http://www.ahn9.com/savannahlakes/outside_frame.asp Contrary to the Corps of Engineers home page on this lake, it is not busy. If you want to stay on he lake during the off season, Hickory Knob State Park in South Carolina is near the Savannah Lakes place. Also, if you are a potential buyer, Savannah Lakes will wine and dine you in addition to putting you up for a night. Might be worth checking out. They have been known to fly serious prospects in. Those serious prospects are those whose net worth make the price of plane ticket seem like pocket change. I know of such a prospect they flew in and set up his tee time to boot. As to the sailing around Amelia Island, actually it is quite good for a Rhodes on the north side. Just have to watch out for Submarines. This place has a ramp:http://www.ameliaisland.com/attract.htm#HARBOR Have you been to Panama City, Florida. Port St. Joe has a nice marina. St. Joe Bay is a lot of water. Quite shallow for big boats, but sailable for a center board boat. And, the Gulf is generally quite nice in this area, not like the Atlantic. Check out this place: http://www.liveeyenet.com/lulus/ What is all this talk about the south? Go North to Lake Champlain. Just do not go on a cheap tour boat. And, know the rules for sailing to Canada. No crowds on this lake. http://www.windsofireland.net/rentals.htm Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Punta-Gorda-Port-Charlotte-t1226835.html#a3274520 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From trpclman at yahoo.com Tue Mar 7 04:55:17 2006 From: trpclman at yahoo.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Tue Mar 7 07:55:19 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte In-Reply-To: <25d.800193e.313df7ab@aol.com> Message-ID: <20060307125517.19575.qmail@web54510.mail.yahoo.com> Dave, Sarasota can be up-scale around the coast. There a lot of residential communities in ladn that are not far from the water. Bradenton is more residential and more afordable to be on the water. Both Bradenton and Sarasota seem like one city. If you don't know where the city limit is, you won't know if you are in Bradenton or Sarasota. Let me know when you are planning to be here. I'm pretty busy at the present time, but I should have more free time pretty soon. Let know ahead of time if you want to rent the boat. Luis DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: Ed, Thanks for your post regarding healthcare facilities, it was helpful. Hartwell is on our list, as is Keowee. Bob, You suggested I contact Tom Scott on the Precision Board re Punta Gorda. Are you referring to the Precision Board on TrailerSailor, or another board? Art, Thanks for your input. Would you care to expand on the differences between lake and coastal sailing? I've only sailed on the Chesapeake, and with a much small boat, Kerr Lake and local ponds. Re Lanier, we???ve gotten mixed signals; it???s well located, but I gather its also very well developed. It???s proximity to Atlanta cuts both ways. Checking the www, Lanier gets 7.5 million visitors each year; sounds like a crowd, but I???ll check further. Luis, I think you???re right regarding Sarasota/Bradenton. As we traveled up the coast from PG/PC we heard that Sarasota Bay was really a great place to sail and keep a boat. We looked at Sarasota on our last trek and decided that it would be a great place to visit: the town is beautiful and there are a lot of things to do. However, we concluded there were a whole lot of visitors everywhere. It reminded us of an upscale and well kept beach resort, as opposed to a residential community. I think we???ll look forward to trailering in to Sarasota to sail, or perhaps renting your boat. Thanks to everyone for your input, it's helpful. Dave __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From trpclman at yahoo.com Tue Mar 7 04:57:19 2006 From: trpclman at yahoo.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Tue Mar 7 07:57:25 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte In-Reply-To: <13795886.1141667158880.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20060307125719.49217.qmail@web54514.mail.yahoo.com> Art, The boat is rented right now, and I have 2 possible renters after the present one. I'll check on the marinas and the dry storage and I'll send you a report. Luis "Arthur H. Czerwonky" wrote: Luis, Where would you suggest the best marina is for rates and ease of in and out. Will they let you park the trailer on site? Any dry storage with mast up? I agree with you on location, awesome. Are you getting serious calls about the rental? Art -----Original Message----- >From: Luis Guzman >Sent: Mar 6, 2006 11:41 AM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Punta Gorda/Port Charlotte > >Dave, > > You should take a look at the Sarasota/Bradenton area. There are lots of Marinas, lots of sailboats, and lots of places to go without running aground. > > Luis > >DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > >Folks, > >Back on Feb 9 I posted a request for input regarding sailing/retirement >locales. A number of people responded. Several people suggested Punta >Gorda/Port Charlotte (PG/PC). > >We visited PG/PC about 2 weeks ago on a swing down the east coast and I was >surprised. > >- There was 1 power boat in the PG marina, no sail boats. For practical >purposes it was empty. >- I asked at the Chamber of Commerce (CoC) about the lack of boats and was >told the marina had been closed for 2 years. It has to be dredged. I was >told the plan was to open it next year - but the lady didn???t sound convinced of >that. >- We went to PG Isle to assess their beach and see the boating. The beach >was minimal and clearly there was still a lot of debris from the hurricane >that hit them 2 years ago. >- While at the PG beach we saw one sail boat (~30') motor out of a canal, >appear to run aground, turn around, and motor back into it???s canal. As I >recall we saw no sail boats off shore out to the horizon. >- We drove over to the PC beach. Same story. Somewhat bigger beach, but a >lot of debris in the water. We saw 1 sail boat on the horizon. >- We asked the PG CoC people about keeping a boat at PG. They said that if >you wanted to do it NOW that you???d have to go out to the Burn???t Store Marina >- which is about 15 to 20 minutes out of PG. The marina may be in the next >county, it???s sure not in PG proper. >- The Burnt Store Marina looked to be active, quite a number of boats and >sailboats. > >But my problem is PG/PC. This is their high season, I???d expect to see a lot >of boats. We saw basically none. The PG marina is closed and has been >closed for a couple of years. > >Was the PG/PC sailing ground basically wiped out by the hurricane that hit >them? It sure didn???t look active to me. What have I missed? > >Dave >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > >--------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From ekroposki at charter.net Tue Mar 7 05:25:57 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Tue Mar 7 08:26:01 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reply to Peter about batter charging In-Reply-To: <001901c63ee8$14e1b970$660fa8c0@dell330> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20060303120553.00c45288@incoming.verizon.net> <001901c63ee8$14e1b970$660fa8c0@dell330> Message-ID: <3280403.post@talk.nabble.com> Peter, There is a new technology in battery charging. Sending a pulse thru the system to prevent sulfur crystalization in the cells. Here is a reference to that technology:http://www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p=VDC-12117 Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Here-pictures-of-Link-10-location-on-Fretless-t1213302.html#a3280403 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From pthorn at nc.rr.com Tue Mar 7 13:00:45 2006 From: pthorn at nc.rr.com (Peter Thorn) Date: Tue Mar 7 13:01:43 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reply to Peter about batter charging References: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20060303120553.00c45288@incoming.verizon.net> <001901c63ee8$14e1b970$660fa8c0@dell330> <3280403.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <000601c64211$0f19e3b0$7e0fa8c0@dell330> Ed, Yup -- I'm hip. I first learned how quickly an unattended deep cycle can go bad with my Starwind 19. That type of stupid/expensive lesson is hopefully well learned. The product I use and like now is Battery Minder (about $50, cheaper than a good deep cycle). It puts a trickle charge and a desulphation signal into a deep cycle at rest. I haven't had a battery go bad since. The plans for Raven's "substation" include a battery of two parallel group 31 wet cells and a 40 amp Xantrex Tru Charge three stage charger, with an effective useful output of about 104 amp/hours. The charger has a 21 day top off feature to prevent the wet batteries from losing their charge to dangerously low levels, but this of course requires a shore power hook up. The Battery Minder company this year now offers a 5 watt solar cell powered trickle charger combined with desulphation features for under a $100. This looks like it would be great for boats on moorings or dry sailed w/o power nearby. PT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tootle" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:25 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reply to Peter about batter charging > > Peter, > There is a new technology in battery charging. Sending a pulse thru > the system to prevent sulfur crystalization in the cells. Here is a > reference to that > > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Here-pictures-of-Link-10-location-on-Fretless-t1213302.html#a3280403 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Tue Mar 7 11:47:40 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Tue Mar 7 14:47:46 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another reply to Peter about battery charging In-Reply-To: <000601c64211$0f19e3b0$7e0fa8c0@dell330> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20060303120553.00c45288@incoming.verizon.net> <001901c63ee8$14e1b970$660fa8c0@dell330> <3280403.post@talk.nabble.com> <000601c64211$0f19e3b0$7e0fa8c0@dell330> Message-ID: <3287895.post@talk.nabble.com> Peter, We are talking about the same product and the same company: http://www.vdcelectronics.com/batteryminder_12117.htm and :http://www.vdcelectronics.com/OnBoard_Desulphators.htm and : http://www.vdcelectronics.com/batteryminder_solar_15W.htm Before you commit to what you said read the last site posted above. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Here-pictures-of-Link-10-location-on-Fretless-t1213302.html#a3287895 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From pthorn at nc.rr.com Tue Mar 7 17:20:42 2006 From: pthorn at nc.rr.com (Peter Thorn) Date: Tue Mar 7 17:21:39 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Peter about battery charging References: <5.1.1.6.0.20060302133822.033f0398@incoming.verizon.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20060303120553.00c45288@incoming.verizon.net> <001901c63ee8$14e1b970$660fa8c0@dell330> <3280403.post@talk.nabble.com> <000601c64211$0f19e3b0$7e0fa8c0@dell330> <3287895.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <002201c64235$5f75e6a0$7e0fa8c0@dell330> Ed, It just depends on how you plan to use your boat. The VDC solar products look very good, but there is not a solar charger made that would fit on a Rhodes 22 and be capable of recharging 104 amp/hours in less than 12 hours. I want to have the capability to go on estuary excursions of several days, spending the night on the hook two or three times in a row, and then come into a marina to shower, dump p/p and recharge quickly for another 2-3 days -- all without running out of juice. A 40 amp charger is the only device I could find that would perform like that. The Xantrex charts show it could recharge in less than 6 hours. A solar charger would take weeks. VDC also makes a 5watt unit that was selling earlier for about $99 and backordered everywhere. These are good when you have lots of time away from your boat. They will keep the charge topped and desulphate too. No wonder they can't keep them on the shelves! PT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tootle" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another reply to Peter about battery charging > > Peter, > We are talking about the same product and the same company: > > http://www.vdcelectronics.com/batteryminder_12117.htm > > and :http://www.vdcelectronics.com/OnBoard_Desulphators.htm > > and : http://www.vdcelectronics.com/batteryminder_solar_15W.htm > > Before you commit to what you said read the last site posted above. > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Here-pictures-of-Link-10-location-on-Fretless-t1213302.html#a3287895 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From DCLewis1 at aol.com Tue Mar 7 20:54:21 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 7 20:54:32 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Luis - Locales Message-ID: <265.6fcac95.313f934d@aol.com> Ed, Thanks for the Lake Thurmond lead, I?ll probably pass on that though. Living on a lake named after old Strom could give me pause. Which raises an issue I?d overlooked: will eclectic Yankees fit in different parts of South Carolina? Could be interesting. Re sailing north of Amelia, the guy we spoke with about that (we were actually in Brunswick Ga at the time) showed us the area you might be referring to. The area he highlighted was approximately elliptical; with channels in and out. It looked more than wide enough to sail in, not just a channel. He said small boats did sail that area, as I recall. I measured off the long axis of the ellipse, it was about 6 mi. I think that area may be the Cumberland Sound, I?m looking at a different map now, the original is still with the guy in Brunswick. There may be another area you?re thinking of. Regarding the Amelia Island link in your post: I have to tell you we saw the public marina shown in your link, all the recreational boats in the water were literally sitting on mud - I?m not exaggerating. Not a lot of water, at least when the tides out. Larger commercial/tourist boats were docked at the end of piers that extended well off the shore, probably in a dredged area. There is also a private marina as you come on the island, the marina operator told me it was a dredged area (I have nothing against dredged areas, it just suggests the area is intrinsically shallow). Also, with the private marina, and probably the public marina, you?ve got to navigate what appeared to me to be a maze of channels to get to open water. Bob, I followed up on your suggestion and touched base with Tom Scott, thank you for that lead. His response was that PG/PC was indeed hit hard with the hurricane, that they are rebuilding (not yet rebuilt). The marina is closed, ramps aren?t great, and the best shot at sailing is to have waterfront/canal-back property. Tom said there is a lot of good sailing there. Luis, You likely hit the source of bias in our assessment of Sarasota/Bradenton, we tried to stay close to the coast. That?s pretty much what we saw. Dave From budconnor at earthlink.net Tue Mar 7 21:20:32 2006 From: budconnor at earthlink.net (Bud) Date: Tue Mar 7 21:19:39 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Luis - Locales In-Reply-To: <265.6fcac95.313f934d@aol.com> References: <265.6fcac95.313f934d@aol.com> Message-ID: <440E3F70.5010800@earthlink.net> Dave, you may also want to consider the Melbourne Florida area. You can easily sail 15 or 20 miles north or south of Melbourne on the ICW. Melbourne is a residential area that is not a tourist stop, if tourists do come to the area it is usually to go to Cocoa Beach or the space center. Two big pluses: the ICW is nice and wide here and there is not a lot of traffic to dodge in the channel. You will always have lots of room to yourself, and you can sail year-round. Though you will want to keep your trailer handy during hurricane season. There are several marinas and a few Yacht clubs, slip fees are typically in the $10/ft range. Florida is definitely a "Northern" state, so yankees will fit in just fine. Oh, I have been to Amelia Island and have seen the boats in the mud (I have also seen that near Hilton Head Island). I would not want my boat to sit in the mud each day. I have never noticed the tide here on the ICW. If the tide does rise and fall around here, it can't be more than an inch or two. -Bud Connor DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: >Ed, Thanks for the Lake Thurmond lead, I?ll probably pass on that though. >Living on a lake named after old Strom could give me pause. Which raises an >issue I?d overlooked: will eclectic Yankees fit in different parts of South >Carolina? Could be interesting. > >Re sailing north of Amelia, the guy we spoke with about that (we were >actually in Brunswick Ga at the time) showed us the area you might be referring to. > The area he highlighted was approximately elliptical; with channels in and >out. It looked more than wide enough to sail in, not just a channel. He >said small boats did sail that area, as I recall. I measured off the long axis >of the ellipse, it was about 6 mi. I think that area may be the Cumberland >Sound, I?m looking at a different map now, the original is still with the guy >in Brunswick. There may be another area you?re thinking of. > >Regarding the Amelia Island link in your post: I have to tell you we saw the >public marina shown in your link, all the recreational boats in the water >were literally sitting on mud - I?m not exaggerating. Not a lot of water, at >least when the tides out. Larger commercial/tourist boats were docked at the >end of piers that extended well off the shore, probably in a dredged area. >There is also a private marina as you come on the island, the marina operator >told me it was a dredged area (I have nothing against dredged areas, it just >suggests the area is intrinsically shallow). Also, with the private marina, >and probably the public marina, you?ve got to navigate what appeared to me >to be a maze of channels to get to open water. > >Bob, I followed up on your suggestion and touched base with Tom Scott, thank >you for that lead. His response was that PG/PC was indeed hit hard with the >hurricane, that they are rebuilding (not yet rebuilt). The marina is >closed, ramps aren?t great, and the best shot at sailing is to have >waterfront/canal-back property. Tom said there is a lot of good sailing there. > >Luis, You likely hit the source of bias in our assessment of >Sarasota/Bradenton, we tried to stay close to the coast. That?s pretty much what we saw. > >Dave > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > From ekroposki at charter.net Wed Mar 8 05:04:10 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Wed Mar 8 08:04:15 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond In-Reply-To: <265.6fcac95.313f934d@aol.com> References: <265.6fcac95.313f934d@aol.com> Message-ID: <3299842.post@talk.nabble.com> Dave said, "Living on a lake named after old Strom could give me pause. Which raises an issue I?d overlooked: will eclectic Yankees fit in different parts of South Carolina? Could be interesting." I had the experience of meeting Strom Thurm and assisting his him and his assisistances execute his method of politics. The man was honest, hard working and public minded. He honestly engaged his constituents for their feelings on issues. Unlike many political office holders, he worked hard for his constituents. The press paints a negative picture of him, which if you ever had met him, you would understand is all wrong, even if you are a liberal or E. C. Would a Yankee fit in on Lake Hartwell? I guess Rummy is not back in town, otherwise he would have vociferously emphasised the 'no'. I gather from his previous remarks, he thinks that there are already too many Yankees on the lake. It would be better to go over to the lake that is in the suburbs of Atlanta with Art. The sailing on the two lakes is very different. They play bumper cars(boats) over there. You can play with Art and Claude over there. Rummy only wants serious racers over here, but not too many. With all the comments trying to increase the real estate values in Florida, maybe that is the best place for you. Yes I was talking about Cumberland Sound. The Subs are supposed to be on the surface while tansiting it. However, if you read "Blind Man's Buff" by Sherry Sontag and Christopher Drew, you would watch out for periscopes. In dismissing Lake Thurmond, you are missing a very nice place. The population boom has not settled around the Lake yet, so there are miles of pristine shore. Like Lake Hartwell it is on the Savannah River, just below Lake Russell, named after another southern senator. You might remember he is the one who wore the overcoat with big pockets to collect contributions. Have you looked at a map? See: http://maps.google.com/?ll=33.698065,-82.229919&spn=0.166239,0.30899&t=h Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Ed%2C-Bob%2C-Luis---Locales-t1243818.html#a3299842 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From trpclwife at yahoo.com Wed Mar 8 05:38:52 2006 From: trpclwife at yahoo.com (Julia Guzman) Date: Wed Mar 8 08:38:58 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Luis - Locales In-Reply-To: <265.6fcac95.313f934d@aol.com> Message-ID: <20060308133852.92767.qmail@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Bob, The areas north of St Petersburg on this coast are also popular areas for retirement and for boating. Heading up the coast a bit sees a big drop in expense. Though the beaches are not as pleasant or as common, boating abounds. You probably will want to at least look at that area up north of and around the Tarpon Springs, Crystal River and Weekeewachi areas. In fact, you might find it to be a better area for investing in property as there are still good deals to be found and lower taxes. Sarasota is very nice of course, but extremely high end and seasonal. ~ Julia Guzman --- DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > > Ed, Thanks for the Lake Thurmond lead, I???ll > probably pass on that though. > Living on a lake named after old Strom could give me > pause. Which raises an > issue I???d overlooked: will eclectic Yankees fit in > different parts of South > Carolina? Could be interesting. > > Re sailing north of Amelia, the guy we spoke with > about that (we were > actually in Brunswick Ga at the time) showed us the > area you might be referring to. > The area he highlighted was approximately > elliptical; with channels in and > out. It looked more than wide enough to sail in, > not just a channel. He > said small boats did sail that area, as I recall. I > measured off the long axis > of the ellipse, it was about 6 mi. I think that > area may be the Cumberland > Sound, I???m looking at a different map now, the > original is still with the guy > in Brunswick. There may be another area you???re > thinking of. > > Regarding the Amelia Island link in your post: I > have to tell you we saw the > public marina shown in your link, all the > recreational boats in the water > were literally sitting on mud - I???m not > exaggerating. Not a lot of water, at > least when the tides out. Larger commercial/tourist > boats were docked at the > end of piers that extended well off the shore, > probably in a dredged area. > There is also a private marina as you come on the > island, the marina operator > told me it was a dredged area (I have nothing > against dredged areas, it just > suggests the area is intrinsically shallow). Also, > with the private marina, > and probably the public marina, you???ve got to > navigate what appeared to me > to be a maze of channels to get to open water. > > Bob, I followed up on your suggestion and touched > base with Tom Scott, thank > you for that lead. His response was that PG/PC was > indeed hit hard with the > hurricane, that they are rebuilding (not yet > rebuilt). The marina is > closed, ramps aren???t great, and the best shot at > sailing is to have > waterfront/canal-back property. Tom said there is a > lot of good sailing there. > > Luis, You likely hit the source of bias in our > assessment of > Sarasota/Bradenton, we tried to stay close to the > coast. That???s pretty much what we saw. > > Dave > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com Wed Mar 8 09:35:17 2006 From: BobandSandy at tampabay.rr.com (Robert and Sandra Fuller) Date: Wed Mar 8 09:35:35 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Luis - Locales Message-ID: <000501c642bd$856aa9d0$00b47c46@yourkf1y8xksrv> Dave, trust you also saw Tom's subsequet post on boat draft, low tides, etc. Bob F. From cccox at mindspring.com Wed Mar 8 12:11:55 2006 From: cccox at mindspring.com (Claude Cox) Date: Wed Mar 8 12:11:58 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond Message-ID: <380-22006338171155610@mindspring.com> I was on the lake Saturday, and had a blast, especially trying to stay out of the way of all the racers. The winds were fickle, though, and that made for some interesting moments when the gusts came. Claude > [Original Message] > From: Tootle > To: > Date: 3/8/2006 8:04:17 AM > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond > > > Dave said, "Living on a lake named after old Strom could give me pause. > Which raises an > issue I’d overlooked: will eclectic Yankees fit in different parts of South > Carolina? Could be interesting." > I had the experience of meeting Strom Thurm and assisting his him and > his assisistances execute his method of politics. The man was honest, hard > working and public minded. He honestly engaged his constituents for their > feelings on issues. Unlike many political office holders, he worked hard > for his constituents. The press paints a negative picture of him, which if > you ever had met him, you would understand is all wrong, even if you are a > liberal or E. C. > > Would a Yankee fit in on Lake Hartwell? I guess Rummy is not back in town, > otherwise he would have > vociferously emphasised the 'no'. I gather from his previous remarks, he > thinks that there are already too many Yankees on the lake. It would be > better to go over to the lake that is in the suburbs of Atlanta with Art. > The sailing on the two lakes is very different. They play bumper > cars(boats) over there. You can play with Art and Claude over there. Rummy > only wants serious racers over here, but not too many. > > With all the comments trying to increase the real estate values in Florida, > maybe that is the best place for you. Yes I was talking about Cumberland > Sound. The Subs are supposed to be on the surface while tansiting it. > However, if you read "Blind Man's Buff" by Sherry Sontag and Christopher > Drew, you would watch out for periscopes. > > In dismissing Lake Thurmond, you are missing a very nice place. The > population boom has not settled around the Lake yet, so there are miles of > pristine shore. Like Lake Hartwell it is on the Savannah River, just below > Lake Russell, named after another southern senator. You might remember he > is the one who wore the overcoat with big pockets to collect contributions. > Have you looked at a map? See: > http://maps.google.com/?ll=33.698065,-82.229919&spn=0.166239,0.30899&t=h > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Ed%2C-Bob%2C-Luis---Locales-t1243818.html#a3299842 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Wed Mar 8 12:55:01 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Wed Mar 8 12:55:06 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Luis - Locales Message-ID: <32163773.1141840501597.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Dave, With your sailing experience on the bay, you have a sense of coastal versus lake sailing, winds, tides, etc. Lanier can be crowded on holiday weekends, for retired folks with open agenda, not such a challenge. Winds nice, although not as consistant as a sea breeze. Amenities fine, property costs higher on the shoreline obviously. Access to major metro Atlanta benefits excellent. Not a bad choice as a hub, whether your boat is in the water (waterfront property at the marina) or kept on the trailer (with mast stepped, ready to go). I try to trail to Savannah/Brunswick as often as possible, actually keep a second boat there for convenience. What an excellent venue for sailing, all the way up and down the coast. Unlimited variety. West has a few excellent guides on the GA/SC Coast. It has been untouched by the storms that affected most coastal areas. Art -----Original Message----- >From: DCLewis1@aol.com >Sent: Mar 7, 2006 8:54 PM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Luis - Locales > > >Ed, Thanks for the Lake Thurmond lead, I?ll probably pass on that though. >Living on a lake named after old Strom could give me pause. Which raises an >issue I?d overlooked: will eclectic Yankees fit in different parts of South >Carolina? Could be interesting. > >Re sailing north of Amelia, the guy we spoke with about that (we were >actually in Brunswick Ga at the time) showed us the area you might be referring to. > The area he highlighted was approximately elliptical; with channels in and >out. It looked more than wide enough to sail in, not just a channel. He >said small boats did sail that area, as I recall. I measured off the long axis >of the ellipse, it was about 6 mi. I think that area may be the Cumberland >Sound, I?m looking at a different map now, the original is still with the guy >in Brunswick. There may be another area you?re thinking of. > >Regarding the Amelia Island link in your post: I have to tell you we saw the >public marina shown in your link, all the recreational boats in the water >were literally sitting on mud - I?m not exaggerating. Not a lot of water, at >least when the tides out. Larger commercial/tourist boats were docked at the >end of piers that extended well off the shore, probably in a dredged area. >There is also a private marina as you come on the island, the marina operator >told me it was a dredged area (I have nothing against dredged areas, it just >suggests the area is intrinsically shallow). Also, with the private marina, >and probably the public marina, you?ve got to navigate what appeared to me >to be a maze of channels to get to open water. > >Bob, I followed up on your suggestion and touched base with Tom Scott, thank >you for that lead. His response was that PG/PC was indeed hit hard with the >hurricane, that they are rebuilding (not yet rebuilt). The marina is >closed, ramps aren?t great, and the best shot at sailing is to have >waterfront/canal-back property. Tom said there is a lot of good sailing there. > >Luis, You likely hit the source of bias in our assessment of >Sarasota/Bradenton, we tried to stay close to the coast. That?s pretty much what we saw. > >Dave > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Wed Mar 8 13:03:34 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Wed Mar 8 13:03:38 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond Message-ID: <18988806.1141841014811.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Claude, Do you ever go up to Hartwell as a Georgia Ambassador? It is so easy to trail the Rhodes, I like the Atlanta hub and countless places to jump out to with the yacht, including the Boom Salon and wet bar. Where do you park the boat? I'm at Aqualand, near the offices. Art -----Original Message----- >From: Claude Cox >Sent: Mar 8, 2006 12:11 PM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond > >I was on the lake Saturday, and had a blast, especially trying to stay out >of the way of all the racers. The winds were fickle, though, and that made >for some interesting moments when the gusts came. > >Claude > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Tootle >> To: >> Date: 3/8/2006 8:04:17 AM >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond >> >> >> Dave said, "Living on a lake named after old Strom could give me pause. >> Which raises an >> issue I???d overlooked: will eclectic Yankees fit in different parts of >South >> Carolina? Could be interesting." >> I had the experience of meeting Strom Thurm and assisting his him >and >> his assisistances execute his method of politics. The man was honest, >hard >> working and public minded. He honestly engaged his constituents for their >> feelings on issues. Unlike many political office holders, he worked hard >> for his constituents. The press paints a negative picture of him, which >if >> you ever had met him, you would understand is all wrong, even if you are a >> liberal or E. C. >> >> Would a Yankee fit in on Lake Hartwell? I guess Rummy is not back in >town, >> otherwise he would have >> vociferously emphasised the 'no'. I gather from his previous remarks, he >> thinks that there are already too many Yankees on the lake. It would be >> better to go over to the lake that is in the suburbs of Atlanta with Art. >> The sailing on the two lakes is very different. They play bumper >> cars(boats) over there. You can play with Art and Claude over there. >Rummy >> only wants serious racers over here, but not too many. >> >> With all the comments trying to increase the real estate values in >Florida, >> maybe that is the best place for you. Yes I was talking about Cumberland >> Sound. The Subs are supposed to be on the surface while tansiting it. >> However, if you read "Blind Man's Buff" by Sherry Sontag and Christopher >> Drew, you would watch out for periscopes. >> >> In dismissing Lake Thurmond, you are missing a very nice place. The >> population boom has not settled around the Lake yet, so there are miles of >> pristine shore. Like Lake Hartwell it is on the Savannah River, just >below >> Lake Russell, named after another southern senator. You might remember he >> is the one who wore the overcoat with big pockets to collect >contributions. >> Have you looked at a map? See: >> http://maps.google.com/?ll=33.698065,-82.229919&spn=0.166239,0.30899&t=h >> >> Ed K >> Greenville, SC, USA >> -- >> View this message in context: >http://www.nabble.com/Ed%2C-Bob%2C-Luis---Locales-t1243818.html#a3299842 >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From cccox at mindspring.com Wed Mar 8 15:23:51 2006 From: cccox at mindspring.com (Claude Cox) Date: Wed Mar 8 15:23:53 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond Message-ID: <380-2200633820235148@mindspring.com> Art; I used to be at Hartwell, and injoyed it, even more than Lanier (bigger, and quieter--read no power boats). But the distance (2+ hrs) made it very difficult to get there, so I moved to Lanier a couple of years ago--Rummy and his friend, Roger, helped me move it. Presently, I'm on X dock, slip #14, but am going to move to a power slip--M 49. I have not had a trailer, but am in the market for one, preferably a used one I can try out to see if it's my game. If it is, then I'll invest in a new one. There are lots of places in the southeast I'd like to take a boat to, including Hartwell, so if it works out, I'll become a Rhodes "roady." Just remembered that I was out on Lanier several months ago, and met another Rhodes--blue hull, I think--I was startled to suddenly see a Rhodes; could that have been you? Claude > [Original Message] > From: Arthur H. Czerwonky > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Date: 3/8/2006 1:03:40 PM > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond > > Claude, > > Do you ever go up to Hartwell as a Georgia Ambassador? It is so easy to trail the Rhodes, I like the Atlanta hub and countless places to jump out to with the yacht, including the Boom Salon and wet bar. > > Where do you park the boat? I'm at Aqualand, near the offices. > > Art > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Claude Cox > >Sent: Mar 8, 2006 12:11 PM > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond > > > >I was on the lake Saturday, and had a blast, especially trying to stay out > >of the way of all the racers. The winds were fickle, though, and that made > >for some interesting moments when the gusts came. > > > >Claude > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Tootle > >> To: > >> Date: 3/8/2006 8:04:17 AM > >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond > >> > >> > >> Dave said, "Living on a lake named after old Strom could give me pause. > >> Which raises an > >> issue I’d overlooked: will eclectic Yankees fit in different parts of > >South > >> Carolina? Could be interesting." > >> I had the experience of meeting Strom Thurm and assisting his him > >and > >> his assisistances execute his method of politics. The man was honest, > >hard > >> working and public minded. He honestly engaged his constituents for their > >> feelings on issues. Unlike many political office holders, he worked hard > >> for his constituents. The press paints a negative picture of him, which > >if > >> you ever had met him, you would understand is all wrong, even if you are a > >> liberal or E. C. > >> > >> Would a Yankee fit in on Lake Hartwell? I guess Rummy is not back in > >town, > >> otherwise he would have > >> vociferously emphasised the 'no'. I gather from his previous remarks, he > >> thinks that there are already too many Yankees on the lake. It would be > >> better to go over to the lake that is in the suburbs of Atlanta with Art. > >> The sailing on the two lakes is very different. They play bumper > >> cars(boats) over there. You can play with Art and Claude over there. > >Rummy > >> only wants serious racers over here, but not too many. > >> > >> With all the comments trying to increase the real estate values in > >Florida, > >> maybe that is the best place for you. Yes I was talking about Cumberland > >> Sound. The Subs are supposed to be on the surface while tansiting it. > >> However, if you read "Blind Man's Buff" by Sherry Sontag and Christopher > >> Drew, you would watch out for periscopes. > >> > >> In dismissing Lake Thurmond, you are missing a very nice place. The > >> population boom has not settled around the Lake yet, so there are miles of > >> pristine shore. Like Lake Hartwell it is on the Savannah River, just > >below > >> Lake Russell, named after another southern senator. You might remember he > >> is the one who wore the overcoat with big pockets to collect > >contributions. > >> Have you looked at a map? See: > >> http://maps.google.com/?ll=33.698065,-82.229919&spn=0.166239,0.30899&t=h > >> > >> Ed K > >> Greenville, SC, USA > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >http://www.nabble.com/Ed%2C-Bob%2C-Luis---Locales-t1243818.html#a3299842 > >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Wed Mar 8 16:08:21 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Wed Mar 8 16:08:24 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond Message-ID: <5575584.1141852101519.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Claude, Nope. I'm a white hull in lot 4. The mobility of a trailer is nice. Just make sure you know what you are getting. Hope to see you out there in the next few months. I'll watch for a blue... Art -----Original Message----- >From: Claude Cox >Sent: Mar 8, 2006 3:23 PM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond > >Art; > >I used to be at Hartwell, and injoyed it, even more than Lanier (bigger, >and quieter--read no power boats). But the distance (2+ hrs) made it very >difficult to get there, so I moved to Lanier a couple of years ago--Rummy >and his friend, Roger, helped me move it. Presently, I'm on X dock, slip >#14, but am going to move to a power slip--M 49. > >I have not had a trailer, but am in the market for one, preferably a used >one I can try out to see if it's my game. If it is, then I'll invest in a >new one. There are lots of places in the southeast I'd like to take a boat >to, including Hartwell, so if it works out, I'll become a Rhodes "roady." > >Just remembered that I was out on Lanier several months ago, and met >another Rhodes--blue hull, I think--I was startled to suddenly see a >Rhodes; could that have been you? > >Claude > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Arthur H. Czerwonky >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >> Date: 3/8/2006 1:03:40 PM >> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond >> >> Claude, >> >> Do you ever go up to Hartwell as a Georgia Ambassador? It is so easy to >trail the Rhodes, I like the Atlanta hub and countless places to jump out >to with the yacht, including the Boom Salon and wet bar. >> >> Where do you park the boat? I'm at Aqualand, near the offices. >> >> Art >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: Claude Cox >> >Sent: Mar 8, 2006 12:11 PM >> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond >> > >> >I was on the lake Saturday, and had a blast, especially trying to stay >out >> >of the way of all the racers. The winds were fickle, though, and that >made >> >for some interesting moments when the gusts came. >> > >> >Claude >> > >> > >> >> [Original Message] >> >> From: Tootle >> >> To: >> >> Date: 3/8/2006 8:04:17 AM >> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond >> >> >> >> >> >> Dave said, "Living on a lake named after old Strom could give me >pause. >> >> Which raises an >> >> issue I???d overlooked: will eclectic Yankees fit in different parts >of >> >South >> >> Carolina? Could be interesting." >> >> I had the experience of meeting Strom Thurm and assisting his him >> >and >> >> his assisistances execute his method of politics. The man was honest, >> >hard >> >> working and public minded. He honestly engaged his constituents for >their >> >> feelings on issues. Unlike many political office holders, he worked >hard >> >> for his constituents. The press paints a negative picture of him, >which >> >if >> >> you ever had met him, you would understand is all wrong, even if you >are a >> >> liberal or E. C. >> >> >> >> Would a Yankee fit in on Lake Hartwell? I guess Rummy is not back in >> >town, >> >> otherwise he would have >> >> vociferously emphasised the 'no'. I gather from his previous remarks, >he >> >> thinks that there are already too many Yankees on the lake. It would >be >> >> better to go over to the lake that is in the suburbs of Atlanta with >Art. >> >> The sailing on the two lakes is very different. They play bumper >> >> cars(boats) over there. You can play with Art and Claude over there. >> >Rummy >> >> only wants serious racers over here, but not too many. >> >> >> >> With all the comments trying to increase the real estate values in >> >Florida, >> >> maybe that is the best place for you. Yes I was talking about >Cumberland >> >> Sound. The Subs are supposed to be on the surface while tansiting it. >> >> However, if you read "Blind Man's Buff" by Sherry Sontag and >Christopher >> >> Drew, you would watch out for periscopes. >> >> >> >> In dismissing Lake Thurmond, you are missing a very nice place. The >> >> population boom has not settled around the Lake yet, so there are >miles of >> >> pristine shore. Like Lake Hartwell it is on the Savannah River, just >> >below >> >> Lake Russell, named after another southern senator. You might >remember he >> >> is the one who wore the overcoat with big pockets to collect >> >contributions. >> >> Have you looked at a map? See: >> >> >http://maps.google.com/?ll=33.698065,-82.229919&spn=0.166239,0.30899&t=h >> >> >> >> Ed K >> >> Greenville, SC, USA >> >> -- >> >> View this message in context: >> >http://www.nabble.com/Ed%2C-Bob%2C-Luis---Locales-t1243818.html#a3299842 >> >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > >> > >> >__________________________________________________ >> >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From jfortune at knology.net Wed Mar 8 22:33:04 2006 From: jfortune at knology.net (jfortune@knology.net) Date: Wed Mar 8 17:33:06 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] list Message-ID: <20060308222524.26340.qmail@webmail1.knology.net> please remove me from the e-mail list. thank you! From rjquinn at bellsouth.net Wed Mar 8 17:39:51 2006 From: rjquinn at bellsouth.net (Robert Quinn) Date: Wed Mar 8 17:40:01 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] list References: <20060308222524.26340.qmail@webmail1.knology.net> Message-ID: <002c01c64301$36c4c010$6101a8c0@gatewaysystem> Please go to the "Help?" below for instructions. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] list > please remove me from the e-mail list. thank you! > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From ekroposki at charter.net Wed Mar 8 20:13:00 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (ed kroposki) Date: Wed Mar 8 20:13:22 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? Message-ID: <000a01c64316$9f426d30$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Art, What kind of boat are you Renting? Is that Savannah or Brunswick? Is that at a marina? Which marina? Ed K Greenville, SC, USa From DCLewis1 at aol.com Wed Mar 8 21:29:27 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Wed Mar 8 21:29:39 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales Message-ID: <235.83372e8.3140ed07@aol.com> Ed, We intend to look @ Hartwell and Keowee. I?m sure Rummy would welcome another Rhodes on his lake. At a minimum, it?s someone else he could beat - easily. Maybe he'd feel better about it if we arrived with a bottle of Mt Gay, or is it jar of Ben Gay? Regarding Sen Russell, you?re right, I?d forgotten. Regarding Strom, I?m sure he did work hard for, and represent, his constituents, he was re-elected many times. Art, Regarding Lanier, the Corps advertises 7.5M visitors/yr. Wow! Julia, I think you?re right, Hudson and Dunedin have survived on our list. To out knowledge, available marinas in that part of the world are at Tarpon Springs, we checked at Dunedin and Tarpon Springs, I don?t think Hudson is directly on the water. We were told that marinas in the area have been converted to waterfront condos or are wildly oversubscribed because of the conversion of so many other marinas to waterfront condos. As I recall, the guy running the Dunedin marina said it would take at least 2 years for a 22' sailboat to get a slip in their marina - if the boat were 30' or over he projected a 4+ year wait - and we?d have to be residents of Dunedin to even be put on the list. There are slips available at Tarpon Springs. One issue with that entire area is the water is shallow water. We were told by a marina operator @ Tarpon Springs that if you sailed a mile off shore, the depth would increase by about a foot - you could walk home if something happened to the boat. The charts show a very extended shelf in that part of the world. The mean depth around Dunedin is about 2 feet, as I recall (could be wrong about the 2', but it?s shallow). So thin water is an issue in that part of Fla - but it is warm, so it?s still on the list. BobF, Thanks for your post, I checked back and saw Tom?s subsequent post. It explains everything we saw. But his 2 posts also identify a substantial problem: marina?s are out, at least for the near term, because the Florida EPA won?t let them dredge, ramps are not great, so Tom recommends a waterfront or canal back home. Tom reports they start at about $1.2M - and we all know they can be blown or washed away by the next big storm. Actually, when we were there we saw several canal backed homes that were in the $700Ks, but they were older (I?d guess ?50s) and pretty small - PG/PC has been around for a while and the part near the water likely developed first. So its getting problematic given PG/PCs storm history, boating infrastructure (or lack of infrastructure), and very near term development. I?d thought PG/PC might be a good place for the snowbird trick, just get a condo/townhouse and rent a slip - limit hurricane risk by limiting investment. The problem is no slips, few ramps, and a tremendous amount of development that?s going to exacerbate the need for slips and ramps (as I recall there are at least 3 high rise condos going in on PG Isles in a relatively small area just outside the park entrance no direct water access with any of them - and that?s only one place in PG). I?m starting to think that making PG/PC work could be a challenge. Bud, Thanks for suggesting Melbourne. Can you really sail that part of the ICW? Except as the ICW transects various sounds, the parts of the ICW I?ve seen on the east coast have been relatively narrow. I concluded sailing the ICW entails some sailing and a lot of motoring unless the wind cooperates. I have no experience sailing the ICW, am I wrong? Also, I can report that in the Palm Coast area, and possibly other areas ( i.e. Southport NC), developers have negotiated cut-outs from the ICW where they ?ve built marinas for a hundred or so boats at a site. I can see real traffic jams developing in those areas when the multitude of local recreational boaters take to the relatively confined ICW ditch. Does Melbourne have that problem? I?m ambivalent about recreational sailing in the ICW, as opposed to using it as a passage from point A to point B, do people sail 22' boats recreationally in the ICW (this comment applies only to ?the big ditch? part of the ICW not the sounds, river mouths, behind keys, etc)? Our next trek is pseudo-local, Kilmarnock VA, Washington NC via Edenton (try to check on our boat), and New Bern NC (again). This is our 3rd trip to New Bern, it has a lot going for it (Neuse River & Pamlico Sound), but it can get cold. Not as cold as Northern Va, but a lot colder than Fla. Later this year it?ll be the lakes trek. Thanks again to everyone for your input. Your local knowledge is really helpful. Dave From cccox at mindspring.com Wed Mar 8 21:46:12 2006 From: cccox at mindspring.com (Claude Cox) Date: Wed Mar 8 21:46:17 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond Message-ID: <380-2200634924612773@mindspring.com> actually, my hull is white also. I'll watch for you. > [Original Message] > From: Arthur H. Czerwonky > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Date: 3/8/2006 4:08:26 PM > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond > > Claude, > Nope. I'm a white hull in lot 4. The mobility of a trailer is nice. Just make sure you know what you are getting. > Hope to see you out there in the next few months. I'll watch for a blue... > Art > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Claude Cox > >Sent: Mar 8, 2006 3:23 PM > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond > > > >Art; > > > >I used to be at Hartwell, and injoyed it, even more than Lanier (bigger, > >and quieter--read no power boats). But the distance (2+ hrs) made it very > >difficult to get there, so I moved to Lanier a couple of years ago--Rummy > >and his friend, Roger, helped me move it. Presently, I'm on X dock, slip > >#14, but am going to move to a power slip--M 49. > > > >I have not had a trailer, but am in the market for one, preferably a used > >one I can try out to see if it's my game. If it is, then I'll invest in a > >new one. There are lots of places in the southeast I'd like to take a boat > >to, including Hartwell, so if it works out, I'll become a Rhodes "roady." > > > >Just remembered that I was out on Lanier several months ago, and met > >another Rhodes--blue hull, I think--I was startled to suddenly see a > >Rhodes; could that have been you? > > > >Claude > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Arthur H. Czerwonky > >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >> Date: 3/8/2006 1:03:40 PM > >> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond > >> > >> Claude, > >> > >> Do you ever go up to Hartwell as a Georgia Ambassador? It is so easy to > >trail the Rhodes, I like the Atlanta hub and countless places to jump out > >to with the yacht, including the Boom Salon and wet bar. > >> > >> Where do you park the boat? I'm at Aqualand, near the offices. > >> > >> Art > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> >From: Claude Cox > >> >Sent: Mar 8, 2006 12:11 PM > >> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond > >> > > >> >I was on the lake Saturday, and had a blast, especially trying to stay > >out > >> >of the way of all the racers. The winds were fickle, though, and that > >made > >> >for some interesting moments when the gusts came. > >> > > >> >Claude > >> > > >> > > >> >> [Original Message] > >> >> From: Tootle > >> >> To: > >> >> Date: 3/8/2006 8:04:17 AM > >> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Dave said, "Living on a lake named after old Strom could give me > >pause. > >> >> Which raises an > >> >> issue I’d overlooked: will eclectic Yankees fit in different parts > >of > >> >South > >> >> Carolina? Could be interesting." > >> >> I had the experience of meeting Strom Thurm and assisting his him > >> >and > >> >> his assisistances execute his method of politics. The man was honest, > >> >hard > >> >> working and public minded. He honestly engaged his constituents for > >their > >> >> feelings on issues. Unlike many political office holders, he worked > >hard > >> >> for his constituents. The press paints a negative picture of him, > >which > >> >if > >> >> you ever had met him, you would understand is all wrong, even if you > >are a > >> >> liberal or E. C. > >> >> > >> >> Would a Yankee fit in on Lake Hartwell? I guess Rummy is not back in > >> >town, > >> >> otherwise he would have > >> >> vociferously emphasised the 'no'. I gather from his previous remarks, > >he > >> >> thinks that there are already too many Yankees on the lake. It would > >be > >> >> better to go over to the lake that is in the suburbs of Atlanta with > >Art. > >> >> The sailing on the two lakes is very different. They play bumper > >> >> cars(boats) over there. You can play with Art and Claude over there. > >> >Rummy > >> >> only wants serious racers over here, but not too many. > >> >> > >> >> With all the comments trying to increase the real estate values in > >> >Florida, > >> >> maybe that is the best place for you. Yes I was talking about > >Cumberland > >> >> Sound. The Subs are supposed to be on the surface while tansiting it. > >> >> However, if you read "Blind Man's Buff" by Sherry Sontag and > >Christopher > >> >> Drew, you would watch out for periscopes. > >> >> > >> >> In dismissing Lake Thurmond, you are missing a very nice place. The > >> >> population boom has not settled around the Lake yet, so there are > >miles of > >> >> pristine shore. Like Lake Hartwell it is on the Savannah River, just > >> >below > >> >> Lake Russell, named after another southern senator. You might > >remember he > >> >> is the one who wore the overcoat with big pockets to collect > >> >contributions. > >> >> Have you looked at a map? See: > >> >> > >http://maps.google.com/?ll=33.698065,-82.229919&spn=0.166239,0.30899&t=h > >> >> > >> >> Ed K > >> >> Greenville, SC, USA > >> >> -- > >> >> View this message in context: > >> >http://www.nabble.com/Ed%2C-Bob%2C-Luis---Locales-t1243818.html#a3299842 > >> >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >> >> > >> >> __________________________________________________ > >> >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > > >> > > >> >__________________________________________________ > >> >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Wed Mar 8 22:13:46 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Wed Mar 8 22:14:25 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? Message-ID: <8886343.1141874026419.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ed, I keep a boat in dry storage, just break it out when I go to the coast. It's an O'Day 222 which I tie up at Hilton Head (Palmetto Bay Marina, very highly recommended) or at Savannah (Sail Harbor, supposed to have a shower now). Our first trip to SH a few years ago, the shower was the carport with tarps and a garden hose. I am trying to learn more about the Brunswick area, very nice from the shore, especially the Cloister, which needed renovation like a hole in the head. Golden Isles Marina is supposed to be excellent. I have concluded that a one or two week live-aboard on the boat at a site like these can beat most other vacation spots with a big stick... and at about 30 bucks a night. I use a boom room on each, doubling the space for eat-sleep-shower routined nicely. BTW have you seen the Coleman water heater rig? It looks ideal for live aboard. I will use one this season for the first time from inside a boom suspended shower stall. I'll report the results on the list. Has anyone used a portable water heater like the Coleman. Having a portable waterfront lot seems alot more appealing to me than an expensive fixed site with maintenance and high overhead. One variation on this theme is something we should try - pick a number of destination sites like Sarasota, and all trail our boats to a surprise Birthday Party for Luis, and enjoy sailing together as much as we enjoy our vigorous email dialogue. Look at CFYC sometime. They plan one trip a month out of their Orlando home base. A joint trip to Edenton would be a hoooot. Art -----Original Message----- >From: ed kroposki >Sent: Mar 8, 2006 8:13 PM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? > >Art, > What kind of boat are you Renting? Is that Savannah or Brunswick? >Is that at a marina? Which marina? > >Ed K >Greenville, SC, USa > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Wed Mar 8 22:13:46 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Wed Mar 8 22:15:24 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? Message-ID: <1996078.1141874026498.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ed, I keep a boat in dry storage, just break it out when I go to the coast. It's an O'Day 222 which I tie up at Hilton Head (Palmetto Bay Marina, very highly recommended) or at Savannah (Sail Harbor, supposed to have a shower now). Our first trip to SH a few years ago, the shower was the carport with tarps and a garden hose. I am trying to learn more about the Brunswick area, very nice from the shore, especially the Cloister, which needed renovation like a hole in the head. Golden Isles Marina is supposed to be excellent. I have concluded that a one or two week live-aboard on the boat at a site like these can beat most other vacation spots with a big stick... and at about 30 bucks a night. I use a boom room on each, doubling the space for eat-sleep-shower routined nicely. BTW have you seen the Coleman water heater rig? It looks ideal for live aboard. I will use one this season for the first time from inside a boom suspended shower stall. I'll report the results on the list. Has anyone used a portable water heater like the Coleman. Having a portable waterfront lot seems alot more appealing to me than an expensive fixed site with maintenance and high overhead. One variation on this theme is something we should try - pick a number of destination sites like Sarasota, and all trail our boats to a surprise Birthday Party for Luis, and enjoy sailing together as much as we enjoy our vigorous email dialogue. Look at CFYC sometime. They plan one trip a month out of their Orlando home base. A joint trip to Edenton would be a hoooot. Art -----Original Message----- >From: ed kroposki >Sent: Mar 8, 2006 8:13 PM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? > >Art, > What kind of boat are you Renting? Is that Savannah or Brunswick? >Is that at a marina? Which marina? > >Ed K >Greenville, SC, USa > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From budconnor at earthlink.net Wed Mar 8 22:17:50 2006 From: budconnor at earthlink.net (Bud) Date: Wed Mar 8 22:17:04 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales In-Reply-To: <235.83372e8.3140ed07@aol.com> References: <235.83372e8.3140ed07@aol.com> Message-ID: <440F9E5E.8050904@earthlink.net> Dave, the ICW is at least a mile wide here, and is typically deep (8'-12') and is a great place to sail anything in our class. I occasionally crew on a Lindbergh '28 (at times we've had 7 people on the rail!) and we have no trouble maneuvering around the course. Take a quick look on mapquest and you will see wide water from Scottsmoor down to Stuart which is over a 100 miles, with Melbourne in the middle. You will be suprised how wide and un-crowded this area is. If you want to see a narrow ICW, take a look at Daytona on mapquest. If I lived in Daytona I would have taken up motorcycles instead of sailing. Oh, if you use GoogleEarth, you can see just how sparsely populated the water really is. -Bud DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: >Ed, We intend to look @ Hartwell and Keowee. I?m sure Rummy would welcome >another Rhodes on his lake. At a minimum, it?s someone else he could beat - >easily. Maybe he'd feel better about it if we arrived with a bottle of Mt >Gay, or is it jar of Ben Gay? > >Regarding Sen Russell, you?re right, I?d forgotten. Regarding Strom, I?m >sure he did work hard for, and represent, his constituents, he was re-elected >many times. > >Art, Regarding Lanier, the Corps advertises 7.5M visitors/yr. Wow! > >Julia, I think you?re right, Hudson and Dunedin have survived on our list. > To out knowledge, available marinas in that part of the world are at Tarpon >Springs, we checked at Dunedin and Tarpon Springs, I don?t think Hudson is >directly on the water. We were told that marinas in the area have been >converted to waterfront condos or are wildly oversubscribed because of the >conversion of so many other marinas to waterfront condos. As I recall, the guy >running the Dunedin marina said it would take at least 2 years for a 22' sailboat >to get a slip in their marina - if the boat were 30' or over he projected a >4+ year wait - and we?d have to be residents of Dunedin to even be put on the >list. There are slips available at Tarpon Springs. One issue with that >entire area is the water is shallow water. We were told by a marina operator @ >Tarpon Springs that if you sailed a mile off shore, the depth would increase >by about a foot - you could walk home if something happened to the boat. >The charts show a very extended shelf in that part of the world. The mean >depth around Dunedin is about 2 feet, as I recall (could be wrong about the 2', >but it?s shallow). So thin water is an issue in that part of Fla - but it is >warm, so it?s still on the list. > >BobF, Thanks for your post, I checked back and saw Tom?s subsequent post. >It explains everything we saw. But his 2 posts also identify a substantial >problem: marina?s are out, at least for the near term, because the Florida >EPA won?t let them dredge, ramps are not great, so Tom recommends a waterfront >or canal back home. Tom reports they start at about $1.2M - and we all know >they can be blown or washed away by the next big storm. Actually, when we >were there we saw several canal backed homes that were in the $700Ks, but they >were older (I?d guess ?50s) and pretty small - PG/PC has been around for a >while and the part near the water likely developed first. So its getting >problematic given PG/PCs storm history, boating infrastructure (or lack of >infrastructure), and very near term development. > >I?d thought PG/PC might be a good place for the snowbird trick, just get a >condo/townhouse and rent a slip - limit hurricane risk by limiting investment. > The problem is no slips, few ramps, and a tremendous amount of development >that?s going to exacerbate the need for slips and ramps (as I recall there >are at least 3 high rise condos going in on PG Isles in a relatively small area >just outside the park entrance no direct water access with any of them - and >that?s only one place in PG). I?m starting to think that making PG/PC work >could be a challenge. > >Bud, Thanks for suggesting Melbourne. Can you really sail that part of the >ICW? Except as the ICW transects various sounds, the parts of the ICW I?ve >seen on the east coast have been relatively narrow. I concluded sailing the >ICW entails some sailing and a lot of motoring unless the wind cooperates. I >have no experience sailing the ICW, am I wrong? > >Also, I can report that in the Palm Coast area, and possibly other areas ( >i.e. Southport NC), developers have negotiated cut-outs from the ICW where they >?ve built marinas for a hundred or so boats at a site. I can see real >traffic jams developing in those areas when the multitude of local recreational >boaters take to the relatively confined ICW ditch. Does Melbourne have that >problem? I?m ambivalent about recreational sailing in the ICW, as opposed to >using it as a passage from point A to point B, do people sail 22' boats >recreationally in the ICW (this comment applies only to ?the big ditch? part of >the ICW not the sounds, river mouths, behind keys, etc)? > >Our next trek is pseudo-local, Kilmarnock VA, Washington NC via Edenton (try >to check on our boat), and New Bern NC (again). This is our 3rd trip to New >Bern, it has a lot going for it (Neuse River & Pamlico Sound), but it can >get cold. Not as cold as Northern Va, but a lot colder than Fla. Later this > year it?ll be the lakes trek. > >Thanks again to everyone for your input. Your local knowledge is really >helpful. > >Dave > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > From bnoreau at msn.com Thu Mar 9 01:07:34 2006 From: bnoreau at msn.com (Robert Noreau) Date: Thu Mar 9 01:07:45 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Any past postings about repairing leak between the hulls? Where the miol meets together. Message-ID: I just got the boat this winter, looks like it had been leaking at that area in the cabin where the roof meets the wall, from the mast area forward? Others with this experience and solution?? please BNoreau@MSN.com From R22RumRunner at aol.com Thu Mar 9 06:54:04 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 9 06:54:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Any past postings about repairing leak between the hulls?... Message-ID: <249.8203468.3141715c@aol.com> How about a little introduction including your real name. This is not a severe problem and an easy fix that has been discussed many times and is available in the archives. However, going through the archives can be a pain and also time consuming. After a proper introduction, we will be glad to help you. Rummy From R22RumRunner at aol.com Thu Mar 9 07:01:11 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 9 07:01:20 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales Message-ID: <261.80fb77c.31417307@aol.com> Dave, Contrary to what Ed would have you believe, I am not a racer. I prefer to sit back, crank tunes and get really drunk while sailing. Hartwell is a terrible lake. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone wanting to move here from up north. It's dirty (polluted with PCB's) has many shallow areas called shoals and is very crowded on holiday weekends. I would recommend looking elsewhere. Rummy From R22RumRunner at aol.com Thu Mar 9 07:11:42 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 9 07:11:50 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond Message-ID: <2da.3db313e.3141757e@aol.com> Claude, Art purchased Rodger's R22. Good to see you still are on the list. Rummy From anima13 at bellsouth.net Thu Mar 9 06:17:18 2006 From: anima13 at bellsouth.net (anima13) Date: Thu Mar 9 07:17:30 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales In-Reply-To: <261.80fb77c.31417307@aol.com> Message-ID: AWW Rummy, You just want your lake all to yourself. I know that feeling! I would prefer that we never go wet here because that would bring too much development. We are racing in Nashville this weekend (goo thing we got rooms over 6 weeks ago with the SEC tournament!) Looks as though we will be out in the rain. Is warmer and that is good. On non-race days I do exactly as you described...crank the tunes and imbibe. However, we do drink beer while racing. This means you often baptize your boat! Anne -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of R22RumRunner@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:01 AM To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales Dave, Contrary to what Ed would have you believe, I am not a racer. I prefer to sit back, crank tunes and get really drunk while sailing. Hartwell is a terrible lake. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone wanting to move here from up north. It's dirty (polluted with PCB's) has many shallow areas called shoals and is very crowded on holiday weekends. I would recommend looking elsewhere. Rummy __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From anima13 at bellsouth.net Thu Mar 9 06:24:31 2006 From: anima13 at bellsouth.net (anima13) Date: Thu Mar 9 07:24:40 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond In-Reply-To: <2da.3db313e.3141757e@aol.com> Message-ID: Rodger or Roger..of the engineer fame? -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of R22RumRunner@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:12 AM To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond Claude, Art purchased Rodger's R22. Good to see you still are on the list. Rummy __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From tnrhodey at hotmail.com Thu Mar 9 07:35:40 2006 From: tnrhodey at hotmail.com (TN Rhodey) Date: Thu Mar 9 07:35:48 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond In-Reply-To: <2da.3db313e.3141757e@aol.com> Message-ID: Dynamic Equilibrium? >From: R22RumRunner@aol.com >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond >Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:11:42 EST > >Claude, >Art purchased Rodger's R22. Good to see you still are on the list. > >Rummy >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From tnrhodey at hotmail.com Thu Mar 9 07:38:33 2006 From: tnrhodey at hotmail.com (TN Rhodey) Date: Thu Mar 9 07:38:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Any past postings about repairing leak between thehulls? Where the miol meets together. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hard to tell from your description. Can you post a pic or maybe provide a better description. Wally >From: "Robert Noreau" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Any past postings about repairing leak between >thehulls? Where the miol meets together. >Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 01:07:34 -0500 > >I just got the boat this winter, looks like it had been leaking at that >area in the cabin where the roof meets the wall, from the mast area >forward? Others with this experience and solution?? please > >BNoreau@MSN.com >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Thu Mar 9 04:39:44 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Thu Mar 9 07:39:47 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] John Fortune follow instructions In-Reply-To: <20060308222524.26340.qmail@webmail1.knology.net> References: <20060308222524.26340.qmail@webmail1.knology.net> Message-ID: <28443109.2031141907984504.JavaMail.nabble@talk.nabble.com> John Fortune: 1. You need to contact Slim of this list for specific instruction on exit procedures. 2. You were selling a Rhodes 22 sailboat, you need to provide details of whom you sold the boat to so that we can inform the buyer of the Rhodes 22 List. 3. Also, provide a sailing report for Panama City, Florida. With specific retirement data for Dave. 4. Have you been to LuLu's? See: http://www.liveeyenet.com/lulus/ We need a current report. 5. You never told us why you sold the boat, details. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/list-t1249695.html#a3319071 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From tnrhodey at hotmail.com Thu Mar 9 07:54:29 2006 From: tnrhodey at hotmail.com (TN Rhodey) Date: Thu Mar 9 07:54:41 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales In-Reply-To: <440F9E5E.8050904@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Bud, I think this is the area my Uncle sails out of. He lives in Cocoa (not Cocoa Beach) right on the ICW. Isn't Melbourne near there. My Aunt and Uncle love the area. Stores, library, shops, marinas....all within walking distance. The sailing is quite nice and you can get outside pretty quick if you want to. The part of the ICW has very little tide fluctuation due to small locks. We saw Manatee and dolphins. This is also a great area for watching shuttle launchings by boat. >From what I remember it wasn't real deep but a R22 would do well. Wally >From: Bud >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales >Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:17:50 -0500 > >Dave, > the ICW is at least a mile wide here, and is typically deep (8'-12') and >is a great place to sail anything in >our class. I occasionally crew on a Lindbergh '28 (at times we've had 7 >people on the rail!) and we have no >trouble maneuvering around the course. Take a quick look on mapquest and >you will see wide water >from Scottsmoor down to Stuart which is over a 100 miles, with Melbourne in >the middle. You will be >suprised how wide and un-crowded this area is. If you want to see a narrow >ICW, take a look at Daytona >on mapquest. If I lived in Daytona I would have taken up motorcycles >instead of sailing. Oh, if you use >GoogleEarth, you can see just how sparsely populated the water really is. > >-Bud > > > >DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > >>Ed, We intend to look @ Hartwell and Keowee. I’m sure Rummy would >>welcome another Rhodes on his lake. At a minimum, it’s someone else he >>could beat - easily. Maybe he'd feel better about it if we arrived with >>a bottle of Mt Gay, or is it jar of Ben Gay? >> >>Regarding Sen Russell, you’re right, I’d forgotten. Regarding Strom, >>I’m sure he did work hard for, and represent, his constituents, he was >>re-elected many times. >> >>Art, Regarding Lanier, the Corps advertises 7.5M visitors/yr. Wow! >> >>Julia, I think you’re right, Hudson and Dunedin have survived on our >>list. To out knowledge, available marinas in that part of the world are >>at Tarpon Springs, we checked at Dunedin and Tarpon Springs, I don’t >>think Hudson is directly on the water. We were told that marinas in the >>area have been converted to waterfront condos or are wildly >>oversubscribed because of the conversion of so many other marinas to >>waterfront condos. As I recall, the guy running the Dunedin marina said >>it would take at least 2 years for a 22' sailboat to get a slip in their >>marina - if the boat were 30' or over he projected a 4+ year wait - and >>we’d have to be residents of Dunedin to even be put on the list. There >>are slips available at Tarpon Springs. One issue with that entire area >>is the water is shallow water. We were told by a marina operator @ >>Tarpon Springs that if you sailed a mile off shore, the depth would >>increase by about a foot - you could walk home if something happened to >>the boat. The charts show a very extended shelf in that part of the >>world. The mean depth around Dunedin is about 2 feet, as I recall (could >>be wrong about the 2', but it’s shallow). So thin water is an issue >>in that part of Fla - but it is warm, so it’s still on the list. >> >>BobF, Thanks for your post, I checked back and saw Tom’s subsequent >>post. It explains everything we saw. But his 2 posts also identify a >>substantial problem: marina’s are out, at least for the near term, >>because the Florida EPA won’t let them dredge, ramps are not great, so >>Tom recommends a waterfront or canal back home. Tom reports they start >>at about $1.2M - and we all know they can be blown or washed away by the >>next big storm. Actually, when we were there we saw several canal backed >>homes that were in the $700Ks, but they were older (I’d guess â€50s) >>and pretty small - PG/PC has been around for a while and the part near >>the water likely developed first. So its getting problematic given >>PG/PCs storm history, boating infrastructure (or lack of infrastructure), >>and very near term development. >> >>I’d thought PG/PC might be a good place for the snowbird trick, just get >>a condo/townhouse and rent a slip - limit hurricane risk by limiting >>investment. The problem is no slips, few ramps, and a tremendous amount of >> development that’s going to exacerbate the need for slips and ramps >>(as I recall there are at least 3 high rise condos going in on PG Isles >>in a relatively small area just outside the park entrance no direct water >>access with any of them - and that’s only one place in PG). I’m >>starting to think that making PG/PC work could be a challenge. >> >>Bud, Thanks for suggesting Melbourne. Can you really sail that part of >>the ICW? Except as the ICW transects various sounds, the parts of the >>ICW I’ve seen on the east coast have been relatively narrow. I >>concluded sailing the ICW entails some sailing and a lot of motoring >>unless the wind cooperates. I have no experience sailing the ICW, am I >>wrong? >> >>Also, I can report that in the Palm Coast area, and possibly other areas ( >> i.e. Southport NC), developers have negotiated cut-outs from the ICW >>where they >>’ve built marinas for a hundred or so boats at a site. I can see real >>traffic jams developing in those areas when the multitude of local >>recreational boaters take to the relatively confined ICW ditch. Does >>Melbourne have that problem? I’m ambivalent about recreational >>sailing in the ICW, as opposed to using it as a passage from point A to >>point B, do people sail 22' boats recreationally in the ICW (this comment >>applies only to “the big ditch” part of the ICW not the sounds, >>river mouths, behind keys, etc)? >> >>Our next trek is pseudo-local, Kilmarnock VA, Washington NC via Edenton >>(try to check on our boat), and New Bern NC (again). This is our 3rd >>trip to New Bern, it has a lot going for it (Neuse River & Pamlico >>Sound), but it can get cold. Not as cold as Northern Va, but a lot >>colder than Fla. Later this year it’ll be the lakes trek. >> >>Thanks again to everyone for your input. Your local knowledge is really >>helpful. >> >>Dave >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> >> >> >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Thu Mar 9 05:03:15 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Thu Mar 9 08:03:17 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Robert Noreau aka Bob Noreau In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3997721.2371141909395977.JavaMail.nabble@talk.nabble.com> Bob, You used a term, 'miol'. Some of use are not ancient yankee mariners and are not familiar with your terminology. Please define the term 'miol'. Captain Rummy made a request. See: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2006-March/029232.html You ask a question expecting replies. We southerners expect a degree of civility and decorum. Therefore, a reply to Captain Rummy is in order, would you not agree? We are waiting ... Ed Kroposki Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Any-past-postings-about-repairing-leak-between-the-hulls-Where-the-miol-meets-together.-t1251053.html#a3319436 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From tnrhodey at hotmail.com Thu Mar 9 08:07:04 2006 From: tnrhodey at hotmail.com (TN Rhodey) Date: Thu Mar 9 08:07:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? In-Reply-To: <1996078.1141874026498.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Art, One of my best sailing friends owns an O'Day 222. I liked the cabin layout but I do like the R22 cockpit much better. The 222 seemed to sail a little flatter than the R22. Not quite as tender, maybe due to extra weight of my 2 furlers. His 222 has hank on sails. Until last year I could sail past him on any point of sail. He purchased brand new main last year and now I have to work hard to stay ahead. I haven't used anything other than solar shower so I can't comment on the Coleman product. Wally >From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? >Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 22:13:46 -0500 (EST) > >Ed, > >I keep a boat in dry storage, just break it out when I go to the coast. >It's an O'Day 222 which I tie up at Hilton Head (Palmetto Bay Marina, very >highly recommended) or at Savannah (Sail Harbor, supposed to have a shower >now). Our first trip to SH a few years ago, the shower was the carport >with tarps and a garden hose. > >I am trying to learn more about the Brunswick area, very nice from the >shore, especially the Cloister, which needed renovation like a hole in the >head. Golden Isles Marina is supposed to be excellent. > >I have concluded that a one or two week live-aboard on the boat at a site >like these can beat most other vacation spots with a big stick... and at >about 30 bucks a night. I use a boom room on each, doubling the space for >eat-sleep-shower routined nicely. BTW have you seen the Coleman water >heater rig? It looks ideal for live aboard. I will use one this season >for the first time from inside a boom suspended shower stall. I'll report >the results on the list. Has anyone used a portable water heater like the >Coleman. > >Having a portable waterfront lot seems alot more appealing to me than an >expensive fixed site with maintenance and high overhead. One variation on >this theme is something we should try - pick a number of destination sites >like Sarasota, and all trail our boats to a surprise Birthday Party for >Luis, and enjoy sailing together as much as we enjoy our vigorous email >dialogue. Look at CFYC sometime. They plan one trip a month out of their >Orlando home base. > >A joint trip to Edenton would be a hoooot. > >Art > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: ed kroposki > >Sent: Mar 8, 2006 8:13 PM > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? > > > >Art, > > What kind of boat are you Renting? Is that Savannah or Brunswick? > >Is that at a marina? Which marina? > > > >Ed K > >Greenville, SC, USa > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From R22RumRunner at aol.com Thu Mar 9 08:44:03 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 9 08:44:14 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond Message-ID: <24.306403a.31418b23@aol.com> Nope, wrong Rodger. From R22RumRunner at aol.com Thu Mar 9 08:45:41 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 9 08:45:57 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales Message-ID: <1ac.49643b48.31418b85@aol.com> Anne, Looks like a wet weekend, but at least the temps will be warmer for you. WEe're in the mid 70's and looks like 80 by Monday. R From cccox at mindspring.com Thu Mar 9 08:56:00 2006 From: cccox at mindspring.com (Claude Cox) Date: Thu Mar 9 08:56:04 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond Message-ID: <380-2200634913560211@mindspring.com> Hey Rummy; Yeah, I've been off the list for several months due to other things interferring with playing (like life), but it's good to be back, listening to all the stuff fellow-Rhodies have to say. So, what is Rodger sailing now? Claude > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 3/9/2006 7:11:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dave - Locales and Strom Thurmond > > Claude, > Art purchased Rodger's R22. Good to see you still are on the list. > > Rummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Thu Mar 9 06:56:07 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Thu Mar 9 09:56:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1/2 reply to Claude In-Reply-To: <380-2200634913560211@mindspring.com> References: <265.6fcac95.313f934d@aol.com> <3299842.post@talk.nabble.com> <380-22006338171155610@mindspring.com> <18988806.1141841014811.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <380-2200633820235148@mindspring.com> <5575584.1141852101519.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <380-2200634924612773@mindspring.com> <2da.3db313e.3141757e@aol.com> <24.306403a.31418b23@aol.com> <380-2200634913560211@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <16923249.3611141916167863.JavaMail.nabble@talk.nabble.com> Claude: I will let Rummy reply on the big half. On the smaller side, Rodger and his wife were sailing what I think was a Potter 15 in 15-20 winds the other day. He was moving out. Are you listed on the Frappr? http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Ed%2C-Bob%2C-Luis---Locales-t1243818.html#a3321236 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From lemenagerie22 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 9 06:59:35 2006 From: lemenagerie22 at yahoo.com (Jim White) Date: Thu Mar 9 09:59:42 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Bud: ICW depth In-Reply-To: <440F9E5E.8050904@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20060309145935.37261.qmail@web30903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Bud: The GICWW (Gulf Intra Coastal Waterway) here is less than 100' wide (16' average depth) for over 50 miles....bordered on both sides by water averaging <3' in depth.... Now THATS narrow and shallow! jw Bud wrote: Dave, the ICW is at least a mile wide here, and is typically deep (8'-12') and is a great place to sail anything in our class. I occasionally crew on a Lindbergh '28 (at times we've had 7 people on the rail!) and we have no trouble maneuvering around the course. Take a quick look on mapquest and you will see wide water from Scottsmoor down to Stuart which is over a 100 miles, with Melbourne in the middle. You will be suprised how wide and un-crowded this area is. If you want to see a narrow ICW, take a look at Daytona on mapquest. If I lived in Daytona I would have taken up motorcycles instead of sailing. Oh, if you use GoogleEarth, you can see just how sparsely populated the water really is. -Bud DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: >Ed, We intend to look @ Hartwell and Keowee. I???m sure Rummy would welcome >another Rhodes on his lake. At a minimum, it???s someone else he could beat - >easily. Maybe he'd feel better about it if we arrived with a bottle of Mt >Gay, or is it jar of Ben Gay? > >Regarding Sen Russell, you???re right, I???d forgotten. Regarding Strom, I???m >sure he did work hard for, and represent, his constituents, he was re-elected >many times. > >Art, Regarding Lanier, the Corps advertises 7.5M visitors/yr. Wow! > >Julia, I think you???re right, Hudson and Dunedin have survived on our list. > To out knowledge, available marinas in that part of the world are at Tarpon >Springs, we checked at Dunedin and Tarpon Springs, I don???t think Hudson is >directly on the water. We were told that marinas in the area have been >converted to waterfront condos or are wildly oversubscribed because of the >conversion of so many other marinas to waterfront condos. As I recall, the guy >running the Dunedin marina said it would take at least 2 years for a 22' sailboat >to get a slip in their marina - if the boat were 30' or over he projected a >4+ year wait - and we???d have to be residents of Dunedin to even be put on the >list. There are slips available at Tarpon Springs. One issue with that >entire area is the water is shallow water. We were told by a marina operator @ >Tarpon Springs that if you sailed a mile off shore, the depth would increase >by about a foot - you could walk home if something happened to the boat. >The charts show a very extended shelf in that part of the world. The mean >depth around Dunedin is about 2 feet, as I recall (could be wrong about the 2', >but it???s shallow). So thin water is an issue in that part of Fla - but it is >warm, so it???s still on the list. > >BobF, Thanks for your post, I checked back and saw Tom???s subsequent post. >It explains everything we saw. But his 2 posts also identify a substantial >problem: marina???s are out, at least for the near term, because the Florida >EPA won???t let them dredge, ramps are not great, so Tom recommends a waterfront >or canal back home. Tom reports they start at about $1.2M - and we all know >they can be blown or washed away by the next big storm. Actually, when we >were there we saw several canal backed homes that were in the $700Ks, but they >were older (I???d guess ???50s) and pretty small - PG/PC has been around for a >while and the part near the water likely developed first. So its getting >problematic given PG/PCs storm history, boating infrastructure (or lack of >infrastructure), and very near term development. > >I???d thought PG/PC might be a good place for the snowbird trick, just get a >condo/townhouse and rent a slip - limit hurricane risk by limiting investment. > The problem is no slips, few ramps, and a tremendous amount of development >that???s going to exacerbate the need for slips and ramps (as I recall there >are at least 3 high rise condos going in on PG Isles in a relatively small area >just outside the park entrance no direct water access with any of them - and >that???s only one place in PG). I???m starting to think that making PG/PC work >could be a challenge. > >Bud, Thanks for suggesting Melbourne. Can you really sail that part of the >ICW? Except as the ICW transects various sounds, the parts of the ICW I???ve >seen on the east coast have been relatively narrow. I concluded sailing the >ICW entails some sailing and a lot of motoring unless the wind cooperates. I >have no experience sailing the ICW, am I wrong? > >Also, I can report that in the Palm Coast area, and possibly other areas ( >i.e. Southport NC), developers have negotiated cut-outs from the ICW where they >???ve built marinas for a hundred or so boats at a site. I can see real >traffic jams developing in those areas when the multitude of local recreational >boaters take to the relatively confined ICW ditch. Does Melbourne have that >problem? I???m ambivalent about recreational sailing in the ICW, as opposed to >using it as a passage from point A to point B, do people sail 22' boats >recreationally in the ICW (this comment applies only to ???the big ditch??? part of >the ICW not the sounds, river mouths, behind keys, etc)? > >Our next trek is pseudo-local, Kilmarnock VA, Washington NC via Edenton (try >to check on our boat), and New Bern NC (again). This is our 3rd trip to New >Bern, it has a lot going for it (Neuse River & Pamlico Sound), but it can >get cold. Not as cold as Northern Va, but a lot colder than Fla. Later this > year it???ll be the lakes trek. > >Thanks again to everyone for your input. Your local knowledge is really >helpful. > >Dave > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list Jim White Le Menagerie www.lemenagerie.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From R22RumRunner at aol.com Thu Mar 9 10:10:54 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 9 10:11:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Response to Claude Message-ID: <259.8320298.31419f7e@aol.com> Rodger and Betty have and live on their Hunter 37 which is at Big Water Marina. Rodger is working at the marina full time doing hull repairs, plumbing, rebuilding engines, just about anything they want him to do. It's a good fit for both of them. The marina is in the process of building a new 35 x 70 foot work building. It will be heated and cooled allowing them to do fiberglass work year round. I haven't done much sailing this winter due to having to deal with family problems. My sister died in a house fire in Washington DC in February and I've been going back and forth to DC dealing with the fire investigators, funeral home, church and all the other stuff involved with this sort of accident. I'll be going to Wisconsin for a memorial service with my Father and the rest of the family on the 18th. It will sure be nice when all of this is done and I can get back to a normal life which includes lots of sailing and massive quantities of rum. Rummy From robert at squirrelhaven.com Thu Mar 9 14:52:18 2006 From: robert at squirrelhaven.com (Robert Skinner) Date: Thu Mar 9 14:53:18 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan, resolving production issues Message-ID: <44108772.DC2309C7@squirrelhaven.com> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4776181634656145640 -- Robert Skinner From pthorn at nc.rr.com Thu Mar 9 15:53:14 2006 From: pthorn at nc.rr.com (Peter Thorn) Date: Thu Mar 9 15:54:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan, resolving production issues References: <44108772.DC2309C7@squirrelhaven.com> Message-ID: <000801c643bb$7c39dcb0$7e0fa8c0@dell330> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Skinner" To: "Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:52 PM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan, resolving production issues > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4776181634656145640 > -- > Robert Skinner > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From cccox at mindspring.com Thu Mar 9 17:00:47 2006 From: cccox at mindspring.com (Claude Cox) Date: Thu Mar 9 17:00:52 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1/2 reply to Claude Message-ID: <380-2200634922047461@mindspring.com> Ed; Good to hear from you; yes, I added my name to frappr a couple of weeks ago. Claude > [Original Message] > From: Tootle > To: > Date: 3/9/2006 9:56:49 AM > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1/2 reply to Claude > > > Claude: > I will let Rummy reply on the big half. On the smaller side, Rodger > and his wife were sailing what I think was a Potter 15 in 15-20 winds the > other day. He was moving out. > Are you listed on the Frappr? http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Ed%2C-Bob%2C-Luis---Locales-t1243818.html#a3321236 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From cccox at mindspring.com Thu Mar 9 17:03:57 2006 From: cccox at mindspring.com (Claude Cox) Date: Thu Mar 9 17:03:58 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Response to Claude Message-ID: <380-2200634922357273@mindspring.com> Rummy; I am so sorry to hear about your sister. That sort of situation is so disruptive of our lives. You are certainly in my thoughts as you grieve your loss, and try to deal with the aftermath. Hope you are back on the lake soon. Thanks for the update on Rodger. Sounds like a tough life, but someone has to do it, right? Mine and Nancy's regards to Kimberly. Claude > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 3/9/2006 10:11:09 AM > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Response to Claude > > Rodger and Betty have and live on their Hunter 37 which is at Big Water > Marina. Rodger is working at the marina full time doing hull repairs, plumbing, > rebuilding engines, just about anything they want him to do. It's a good fit > for both of them. The marina is in the process of building a new 35 x 70 foot > work building. It will be heated and cooled allowing them to do fiberglass > work year round. > I haven't done much sailing this winter due to having to deal with family > problems. My sister died in a house fire in Washington DC in February and I've > been going back and forth to DC dealing with the fire investigators, funeral > home, church and all the other stuff involved with this sort of accident. I'll > be going to Wisconsin for a memorial service with my Father and the rest of > the family on the 18th. It will sure be nice when all of this is done and I > can get back to a normal life which includes lots of sailing and massive > quantities of rum. > > Rummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Thu Mar 9 18:14:56 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Thu Mar 9 18:15:03 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales Message-ID: <16235429.1141946096647.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Rummy, You didn't even mention the fresh water sharks... Art -----Original Message----- >From: R22RumRunner@aol.com >Sent: Mar 9, 2006 7:01 AM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales > >Dave, >Contrary to what Ed would have you believe, I am not a racer. I prefer to >sit back, crank tunes and get really drunk while sailing. >Hartwell is a terrible lake. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone wanting to >move here from up north. It's dirty (polluted with PCB's) has many shallow areas > called shoals and is very crowded on holiday weekends. >I would recommend looking elsewhere. > >Rummy >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Thu Mar 9 18:32:18 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Thu Mar 9 18:32:22 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? Message-ID: <4144294.1141947139005.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Wally, Your sailing friend might like this mod - I took out the right backrest, put in a full table mounted in the same position to complement the cabinet/sink. I can fill him in more. The Coleman is very portable, uses a 1# gas bottle, and might supplement or further warm solar water. Interesting about the main. Did his old sail rip or just begin to sag? Art -----Original Message----- >From: TN Rhodey >Sent: Mar 9, 2006 8:07 AM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? > >Art, > >One of my best sailing friends owns an O'Day 222. I liked the cabin layout >but I do like the R22 cockpit much better. The 222 seemed to sail a little >flatter than the R22. Not quite as tender, maybe due to extra weight of my 2 >furlers. His 222 has hank on sails. Until last year I could sail past him on >any point of sail. He purchased brand new main last year and now I have to >work hard to stay ahead. > >I haven't used anything other than solar shower so I can't comment on the >Coleman product. > >Wally > > >>From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? >>Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 22:13:46 -0500 (EST) >> >>Ed, >> >>I keep a boat in dry storage, just break it out when I go to the coast. >>It's an O'Day 222 which I tie up at Hilton Head (Palmetto Bay Marina, very >>highly recommended) or at Savannah (Sail Harbor, supposed to have a shower >>now). Our first trip to SH a few years ago, the shower was the carport >>with tarps and a garden hose. >> >>I am trying to learn more about the Brunswick area, very nice from the >>shore, especially the Cloister, which needed renovation like a hole in the >>head. Golden Isles Marina is supposed to be excellent. >> >>I have concluded that a one or two week live-aboard on the boat at a site >>like these can beat most other vacation spots with a big stick... and at >>about 30 bucks a night. I use a boom room on each, doubling the space for >>eat-sleep-shower routined nicely. BTW have you seen the Coleman water >>heater rig? It looks ideal for live aboard. I will use one this season >>for the first time from inside a boom suspended shower stall. I'll report >>the results on the list. Has anyone used a portable water heater like the >>Coleman. >> >>Having a portable waterfront lot seems alot more appealing to me than an >>expensive fixed site with maintenance and high overhead. One variation on >>this theme is something we should try - pick a number of destination sites >>like Sarasota, and all trail our boats to a surprise Birthday Party for >>Luis, and enjoy sailing together as much as we enjoy our vigorous email >>dialogue. Look at CFYC sometime. They plan one trip a month out of their >>Orlando home base. >> >>A joint trip to Edenton would be a hoooot. >> >>Art >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >From: ed kroposki >> >Sent: Mar 8, 2006 8:13 PM >> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? >> > >> >Art, >> > What kind of boat are you Renting? Is that Savannah or Brunswick? >> >Is that at a marina? Which marina? >> > >> >Ed K >> >Greenville, SC, USa >> > >> >__________________________________________________ >> >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From budconnor at earthlink.net Thu Mar 9 19:22:20 2006 From: budconnor at earthlink.net (Bud) Date: Thu Mar 9 19:21:24 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4410C6BC.1010002@earthlink.net> Wally, you are right, Melbourne is just south of Cocoa, and yes Cocoa is a nice little town. You can sail/motor right up to the public docks, enjoy the town with dinner/shopping etc. And it is neat to be sailing with a family of dolphins swimming along side. -Bud TN Rhodey wrote: > Bud, > > I think this is the area my Uncle sails out of. He lives in Cocoa (not > Cocoa Beach) right on the ICW. Isn't Melbourne near there. My Aunt and > Uncle love the area. Stores, library, shops, marinas....all within > walking distance. > > The sailing is quite nice and you can get outside pretty quick if you > want to. The part of the ICW has very little tide fluctuation due to > small locks. We saw Manatee and dolphins. This is also a great area > for watching shuttle launchings by boat. > >> From what I remember it wasn't real deep but a R22 would do well. > > > Wally > > >> From: Bud >> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales >> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:17:50 -0500 >> >> Dave, >> the ICW is at least a mile wide here, and is typically deep (8'-12') >> and is a great place to sail anything in >> our class. I occasionally crew on a Lindbergh '28 (at times we've >> had 7 people on the rail!) and we have no >> trouble maneuvering around the course. Take a quick look on mapquest >> and you will see wide water >> from Scottsmoor down to Stuart which is over a 100 miles, with >> Melbourne in the middle. You will be >> suprised how wide and un-crowded this area is. If you want to see a >> narrow ICW, take a look at Daytona >> on mapquest. If I lived in Daytona I would have taken up motorcycles >> instead of sailing. Oh, if you use >> GoogleEarth, you can see just how sparsely populated the water really >> is. >> >> -Bud >> >> >> >> DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Ed, We intend to look @ Hartwell and Keowee. I?EUR^(TM)m sure >>> Rummy would welcome another Rhodes on his lake. At a minimum, >>> it?EUR^(TM)s someone else he could beat - easily. Maybe he'd feel >>> better about it if we arrived with a bottle of Mt Gay, or is it jar >>> of Ben Gay? >>> >>> Regarding Sen Russell, you?EUR^(TM)re right, I?EUR^(TM)d forgotten. >>> Regarding Strom, I?EUR^(TM)m sure he did work hard for, and >>> represent, his constituents, he was re-elected many times. >>> >>> Art, Regarding Lanier, the Corps advertises 7.5M visitors/yr. Wow! >>> >>> Julia, I think you?EUR^(TM)re right, Hudson and Dunedin have >>> survived on our list. To out knowledge, available marinas in that >>> part of the world are at Tarpon Springs, we checked at Dunedin and >>> Tarpon Springs, I don?EUR^(TM)t think Hudson is directly on the >>> water. We were told that marinas in the area have been converted >>> to waterfront condos or are wildly oversubscribed because of the >>> conversion of so many other marinas to waterfront condos. As I >>> recall, the guy running the Dunedin marina said it would take at >>> least 2 years for a 22' sailboat to get a slip in their marina - if >>> the boat were 30' or over he projected a 4+ year wait - and >>> we?EUR^(TM)d have to be residents of Dunedin to even be put on the >>> list. There are slips available at Tarpon Springs. One issue with >>> that entire area is the water is shallow water. We were told by a >>> marina operator @ Tarpon Springs that if you sailed a mile off >>> shore, the depth would increase by about a foot - you could walk >>> home if something happened to the boat. The charts show a very >>> extended shelf in that part of the world. The mean depth around >>> Dunedin is about 2 feet, as I recall (could be wrong about the 2', >>> but it?EUR^(TM)s shallow). So thin water is an issue in that part >>> of Fla - but it is warm, so it?EUR^(TM)s still on the list. >>> >>> BobF, Thanks for your post, I checked back and saw Tom?EUR^(TM)s >>> subsequent post. It explains everything we saw. But his 2 posts >>> also identify a substantial problem: marina?EUR^(TM)s are out, at >>> least for the near term, because the Florida EPA won?EUR^(TM)t let >>> them dredge, ramps are not great, so Tom recommends a waterfront or >>> canal back home. Tom reports they start at about $1.2M - and we >>> all know they can be blown or washed away by the next big storm. >>> Actually, when we were there we saw several canal backed homes that >>> were in the $700Ks, but they were older (I?EUR^(TM)d guess >>> ?EUR~50s) and pretty small - PG/PC has been around for a while and >>> the part near the water likely developed first. So its getting >>> problematic given PG/PCs storm history, boating infrastructure (or >>> lack of infrastructure), and very near term development. >>> >>> I?EUR^(TM)d thought PG/PC might be a good place for the snowbird >>> trick, just get a condo/townhouse and rent a slip - limit hurricane >>> risk by limiting investment. The problem is no slips, few ramps, >>> and a tremendous amount of development that?EUR^(TM)s going to >>> exacerbate the need for slips and ramps (as I recall there are at >>> least 3 high rise condos going in on PG Isles in a relatively small >>> area just outside the park entrance no direct water access with any >>> of them - and that?EUR^(TM)s only one place in PG). I?EUR^(TM)m >>> starting to think that making PG/PC work could be a challenge. >>> >>> Bud, Thanks for suggesting Melbourne. Can you really sail that >>> part of the ICW? Except as the ICW transects various sounds, the >>> parts of the ICW I?EUR^(TM)ve seen on the east coast have been >>> relatively narrow. I concluded sailing the ICW entails some >>> sailing and a lot of motoring unless the wind cooperates. I have >>> no experience sailing the ICW, am I wrong? >>> >>> Also, I can report that in the Palm Coast area, and possibly other >>> areas ( i.e. Southport NC), developers have negotiated cut-outs >>> from the ICW where they >>> ?EUR^(TM)ve built marinas for a hundred or so boats at a site. I >>> can see real traffic jams developing in those areas when the >>> multitude of local recreational boaters take to the relatively >>> confined ICW ditch. Does Melbourne have that problem? >>> I?EUR^(TM)m ambivalent about recreational sailing in the ICW, as >>> opposed to using it as a passage from point A to point B, do people >>> sail 22' boats recreationally in the ICW (this comment applies only >>> to ?EURoethe big ditch?EUR? part of the ICW not the sounds, river >>> mouths, behind keys, etc)? >>> >>> Our next trek is pseudo-local, Kilmarnock VA, Washington NC via >>> Edenton (try to check on our boat), and New Bern NC (again). This >>> is our 3rd trip to New Bern, it has a lot going for it (Neuse >>> River & Pamlico Sound), but it can get cold. Not as cold as >>> Northern Va, but a lot colder than Fla. Later this year >>> it?EUR^(TM)ll be the lakes trek. >>> >>> Thanks again to everyone for your input. Your local knowledge is >>> really helpful. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >>> >>> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From R22RumRunner at aol.com Thu Mar 9 19:36:31 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 9 19:36:40 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales Message-ID: <1e4.4d35937f.3142240f@aol.com> Art, Sorry, what was I thinking about? And, I also forgot to mention the gators. :) Rummy From ekroposki at charter.net Thu Mar 9 17:25:18 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Thu Mar 9 20:25:25 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - Sailing Locales In-Reply-To: <16235429.1141946096647.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <235.83372e8.3140ed07@aol.com> <440F9E5E.8050904@earthlink.net> <1ac.49643b48.31418b85@aol.com> <16235429.1141946096647.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3331914.post@talk.nabble.com> Art, We do have a lot of poker runs, do you mean card sharks? Rummy must be talking about that gator the wildlife guys caught up the Seneca River last year. But they are more common on the Chattahoochee. Both of you guys forgot about the summer cotton mouth infestations... Watch under your seats when you get in your boat. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Ed%2C-Bob%2C-Art%2C-Julia%2C-Bud---Sailing-Locales-t1250527.html#a3331914 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From R22RumRunner at aol.com Thu Mar 9 21:24:16 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 9 21:24:34 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - Sailing Locales Message-ID: <27d.6ea2d17.31423d50@aol.com> Ed, Cotton mouth? Isn't that what I have the morning after a long night of drinking? Rummy From czerwonky at earthlink.net Thu Mar 9 22:04:51 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Thu Mar 9 22:04:58 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Bud: ICW depth Message-ID: <32446295.1141959891118.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Jim, You mentioned the bay a while back, and I agree some kind of place for a sailboat. With the ICW so restricted, where do you take the boat, and do you keep it on the water. Do you have a problem with ramp access on Padre? Have you been by Snoopy's on the ICW - excellent dinner menu with dock as well as car access. I'm curious to ask the list also - has anyone found a really good bottom paint for in the water for a while, out for a while. The one part epoxy coatings are supposed to last 48-72 hours before peeling, VC Performance, a two part, is supposed to have unlimited endurance in or out, although no anti-fouling capability. There are excellent ideas hatching on the good areas to sail like St Joe and Cocoa. I wonder that no one has replied to the option of planning outings during the year, like CFYC. Art -----Original Message----- >From: Jim White >Sent: Mar 9, 2006 9:59 AM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Bud: ICW depth > >Bud: > The GICWW (Gulf Intra Coastal Waterway) here is less than 100' wide (16' average depth) for over 50 miles....bordered on both sides by water averaging <3' in depth.... > > Now THATS narrow and shallow! > > jw > >Bud wrote: > Dave, >the ICW is at least a mile wide here, and is typically deep (8'-12') >and is a great place to sail anything in >our class. I occasionally crew on a Lindbergh '28 (at times we've had 7 >people on the rail!) and we have no >trouble maneuvering around the course. Take a quick look on mapquest >and you will see wide water >from Scottsmoor down to Stuart which is over a 100 miles, with Melbourne >in the middle. You will be >suprised how wide and un-crowded this area is. If you want to see a >narrow ICW, take a look at Daytona >on mapquest. If I lived in Daytona I would have taken up motorcycles >instead of sailing. Oh, if you use >GoogleEarth, you can see just how sparsely populated the water really is. > >-Bud > > > >DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > >>Ed, We intend to look @ Hartwell and Keowee. I???m sure Rummy would welcome >>another Rhodes on his lake. At a minimum, it???s someone else he could beat - >>easily. Maybe he'd feel better about it if we arrived with a bottle of Mt >>Gay, or is it jar of Ben Gay? >> >>Regarding Sen Russell, you???re right, I???d forgotten. Regarding Strom, I???m >>sure he did work hard for, and represent, his constituents, he was re-elected >>many times. >> >>Art, Regarding Lanier, the Corps advertises 7.5M visitors/yr. Wow! >> >>Julia, I think you???re right, Hudson and Dunedin have survived on our list. >> To out knowledge, available marinas in that part of the world are at Tarpon >>Springs, we checked at Dunedin and Tarpon Springs, I don???t think Hudson is >>directly on the water. We were told that marinas in the area have been >>converted to waterfront condos or are wildly oversubscribed because of the >>conversion of so many other marinas to waterfront condos. As I recall, the guy >>running the Dunedin marina said it would take at least 2 years for a 22' sailboat >>to get a slip in their marina - if the boat were 30' or over he projected a >>4+ year wait - and we???d have to be residents of Dunedin to even be put on the >>list. There are slips available at Tarpon Springs. One issue with that >>entire area is the water is shallow water. We were told by a marina operator @ >>Tarpon Springs that if you sailed a mile off shore, the depth would increase >>by about a foot - you could walk home if something happened to the boat. >>The charts show a very extended shelf in that part of the world. The mean >>depth around Dunedin is about 2 feet, as I recall (could be wrong about the 2', >>but it???s shallow). So thin water is an issue in that part of Fla - but it is >>warm, so it???s still on the list. >> >>BobF, Thanks for your post, I checked back and saw Tom???s subsequent post. >>It explains everything we saw. But his 2 posts also identify a substantial >>problem: marina???s are out, at least for the near term, because the Florida >>EPA won???t let them dredge, ramps are not great, so Tom recommends a waterfront >>or canal back home. Tom reports they start at about $1.2M - and we all know >>they can be blown or washed away by the next big storm. Actually, when we >>were there we saw several canal backed homes that were in the $700Ks, but they >>were older (I???d guess ???50s) and pretty small - PG/PC has been around for a >>while and the part near the water likely developed first. So its getting >>problematic given PG/PCs storm history, boating infrastructure (or lack of >>infrastructure), and very near term development. >> >>I???d thought PG/PC might be a good place for the snowbird trick, just get a >>condo/townhouse and rent a slip - limit hurricane risk by limiting investment. >> The problem is no slips, few ramps, and a tremendous amount of development >>that???s going to exacerbate the need for slips and ramps (as I recall there >>are at least 3 high rise condos going in on PG Isles in a relatively small area >>just outside the park entrance no direct water access with any of them - and >>that???s only one place in PG). I???m starting to think that making PG/PC work >>could be a challenge. >> >>Bud, Thanks for suggesting Melbourne. Can you really sail that part of the >>ICW? Except as the ICW transects various sounds, the parts of the ICW I???ve >>seen on the east coast have been relatively narrow. I concluded sailing the >>ICW entails some sailing and a lot of motoring unless the wind cooperates. I >>have no experience sailing the ICW, am I wrong? >> >>Also, I can report that in the Palm Coast area, and possibly other areas ( >>i.e. Southport NC), developers have negotiated cut-outs from the ICW where they >>???ve built marinas for a hundred or so boats at a site. I can see real >>traffic jams developing in those areas when the multitude of local recreational >>boaters take to the relatively confined ICW ditch. Does Melbourne have that >>problem? I???m ambivalent about recreational sailing in the ICW, as opposed to >>using it as a passage from point A to point B, do people sail 22' boats >>recreationally in the ICW (this comment applies only to ???the big ditch??? part of >>the ICW not the sounds, river mouths, behind keys, etc)? >> >>Our next trek is pseudo-local, Kilmarnock VA, Washington NC via Edenton (try >>to check on our boat), and New Bern NC (again). This is our 3rd trip to New >>Bern, it has a lot going for it (Neuse River & Pamlico Sound), but it can >>get cold. Not as cold as Northern Va, but a lot colder than Fla. Later this >> year it???ll be the lakes trek. >> >>Thanks again to everyone for your input. Your local knowledge is really >>helpful. >> >>Dave >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> >> >> >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > >Jim White >Le Menagerie >www.lemenagerie.blogspot.com > >--------------------------------- >Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From tnrhodey at hotmail.com Fri Mar 10 07:20:19 2006 From: tnrhodey at hotmail.com (TN Rhodey) Date: Fri Mar 10 07:20:24 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? In-Reply-To: <4144294.1141947139005.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Art, His O'Day 222 is an 84, just like my R22. His main was original and just flat blown out. Brand new sails make a big differnce! Wally >From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? >Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:32:18 -0500 (GMT-05:00) > >Wally, > >Your sailing friend might like this mod - I took out the right backrest, >put in a full table mounted in the same position to complement the >cabinet/sink. I can fill him in more. > >The Coleman is very portable, uses a 1# gas bottle, and might supplement or >further warm solar water. > >Interesting about the main. Did his old sail rip or just begin to sag? > >Art > >-----Original Message----- > >From: TN Rhodey > >Sent: Mar 9, 2006 8:07 AM > >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? > > > >Art, > > > >One of my best sailing friends owns an O'Day 222. I liked the cabin >layout > >but I do like the R22 cockpit much better. The 222 seemed to sail a >little > >flatter than the R22. Not quite as tender, maybe due to extra weight of >my 2 > >furlers. His 222 has hank on sails. Until last year I could sail past him >on > >any point of sail. He purchased brand new main last year and now I have >to > >work hard to stay ahead. > > > >I haven't used anything other than solar shower so I can't comment on the > >Coleman product. > > > >Wally > > > > > >>From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? > >>Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 22:13:46 -0500 (EST) > >> > >>Ed, > >> > >>I keep a boat in dry storage, just break it out when I go to the coast. > >>It's an O'Day 222 which I tie up at Hilton Head (Palmetto Bay Marina, >very > >>highly recommended) or at Savannah (Sail Harbor, supposed to have a >shower > >>now). Our first trip to SH a few years ago, the shower was the carport > >>with tarps and a garden hose. > >> > >>I am trying to learn more about the Brunswick area, very nice from the > >>shore, especially the Cloister, which needed renovation like a hole in >the > >>head. Golden Isles Marina is supposed to be excellent. > >> > >>I have concluded that a one or two week live-aboard on the boat at a >site > >>like these can beat most other vacation spots with a big stick... and >at > >>about 30 bucks a night. I use a boom room on each, doubling the space >for > >>eat-sleep-shower routined nicely. BTW have you seen the Coleman water > >>heater rig? It looks ideal for live aboard. I will use one this season > >>for the first time from inside a boom suspended shower stall. I'll >report > >>the results on the list. Has anyone used a portable water heater like >the > >>Coleman. > >> > >>Having a portable waterfront lot seems alot more appealing to me than an > >>expensive fixed site with maintenance and high overhead. One variation >on > >>this theme is something we should try - pick a number of destination >sites > >>like Sarasota, and all trail our boats to a surprise Birthday Party for > >>Luis, and enjoy sailing together as much as we enjoy our vigorous email > >>dialogue. Look at CFYC sometime. They plan one trip a month out of >their > >>Orlando home base. > >> > >>A joint trip to Edenton would be a hoooot. > >> > >>Art > >> > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >> >From: ed kroposki > >> >Sent: Mar 8, 2006 8:13 PM > >> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - 2nd Boat - Renting? > >> > > >> >Art, > >> > What kind of boat are you Renting? Is that Savannah or Brunswick? > >> >Is that at a marina? Which marina? > >> > > >> >Ed K > >> >Greenville, SC, USa > >> > > >> >__________________________________________________ > >> >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > >>__________________________________________________ > >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Fri Mar 10 07:41:55 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (ed kroposki) Date: Fri Mar 10 07:42:40 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - bottom paints revisited Message-ID: <000201c64440$06c27200$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Art: This list has been around a number of years, unlike you. You need to request that Bill Effros give you special instructions on past discussions. And it would be appropriate to learn by what ever means how to research the archives. We are waiting for you to become the resident guru on sailboat bottom paints... However, since we cannot get you to even routinely change the subject line, I guess we will have to spoon feed you. On Lake Hartwell we use a Micron product that is bug killing and ablative. It works reasonably well for boats like mine and Rummy's that stay in the water most of the time. As for dry sailing, I think that you need to study all the alternatives and report your findings to the list. In the past this subject has gotten good discussion. The products, companies, and our uses change so now is a good time for you to present a summary of the current information. Have at it... Here is some WEB information for you to start with: http://www.nationalpaintsupply.com/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,468 2-123267-124574-nav-list,00.html and make your own here: http://www.epoxyproducts.com/2_fillers.html and an alternative product distributor: http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/to;ID;,Paints or look thru Todd's favorite: http://www.mcmaster.com/ and a Florida source: http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/categories.php?id=3 Since you are a prolific poster, we can expect an initial summary by Sunday, right? Ed K Greenville, SC, USA From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Fri Mar 10 07:49:42 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Fri Mar 10 07:50:30 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - bottom paints revisited In-Reply-To: <000201c64440$06c27200$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: <0d1d01c64441$19e13370$6401a8c0@mjm2> Ed, you are not play this smart, hint, what are the search features of niddle.com? second question, problem, the question need to be answered to get into nidbble -mjm > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of ed kroposki > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:42 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - bottom paints revisited > > Art: > This list has been around a number of years, unlike you. You need to > request that Bill Effros give you special instructions on past > discussions. > And it would be appropriate to learn by what ever means how to research > the > archives. We are waiting for you to become the resident guru on sailboat > bottom paints... > However, since we cannot get you to even routinely change the > subject line, I guess we will have to spoon feed you. On Lake Hartwell we > use a Micron product that is bug killing and ablative. It works > reasonably > well for boats like mine and Rummy's that stay in the water most of the > time. As for dry sailing, I think that you need to study all the > alternatives and report your findings to the list. > In the past this subject has gotten good discussion. The products, > companies, and our uses change so now is a good time for you to present a > summary of the current information. Have at it... > Here is some WEB information for you to start with: > http://www.nationalpaintsupply.com/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853 ,4 > 68 > 2-123267-124574-nav-list,00.html > and make your own here: > http://www.epoxyproducts.com/2_fillers.html > and an alternative product distributor: > http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/to;ID;,Paints > or look thru Todd's favorite: > http://www.mcmaster.com/ > and a Florida source: > http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/categories.php?id=3 > > Since you are a prolific poster, we can expect an initial summary by > Sunday, right? > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Fri Mar 10 05:25:52 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Fri Mar 10 08:25:58 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Nibble versus Nabble In-Reply-To: <0d1d01c64441$19e13370$6401a8c0@mjm2> References: <000201c64440$06c27200$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> <0d1d01c64441$19e13370$6401a8c0@mjm2> Message-ID: <3338807.post@talk.nabble.com> Michael, All right great computer lizard, explain how to use www.nabble.com to search? Also, how do you find subject matter when experienced and knowledgeable computer email users refuse to change the subject line? I use an older and smaller and slower computer for email. Do to program size I cannot keep the Google desktop on the computer. Is your boat in the water? What do you use for bottom paint? I will be back in a couple of hours. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Art---bottom-paints-revisited-t1258705.html#a3338807 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From czerwonky at earthlink.net Fri Mar 10 11:12:55 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Fri Mar 10 12:22:08 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - bottom paints revisited Message-ID: <11047113.1142007175871.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ed, I have researched this over many months, content in my post, which you did not keep attached to your reply. I am really looking for unique owner experience. Who fully utilizes the portability of the R22, like keeping in the lake for a spell, trail or store on shore for another few months, put in at the coast, etc. The only manufacturer opinion I have had is for VC two part. Maximum 'in the water' resistance in salt water is about seven days to avoid buildup, much better than the 2-3 days of one part epoxy. The surface stays hard, even with repeated in and out of water cycles. This is from a manufacturer - anyone to refute this? Thx, Art -----Original Message----- >From: ed kroposki >Sent: Mar 10, 2006 7:41 AM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - bottom paints revisited > >Art: > This list has been around a number of years, unlike you. You need to >request that Bill Effros give you special instructions on past discussions. >And it would be appropriate to learn by what ever means how to research the >archives. We are waiting for you to become the resident guru on sailboat >bottom paints... > However, since we cannot get you to even routinely change the >subject line, I guess we will have to spoon feed you. On Lake Hartwell we >use a Micron product that is bug killing and ablative. It works reasonably >well for boats like mine and Rummy's that stay in the water most of the >time. As for dry sailing, I think that you need to study all the >alternatives and report your findings to the list. > In the past this subject has gotten good discussion. The products, >companies, and our uses change so now is a good time for you to present a >summary of the current information. Have at it... > Here is some WEB information for you to start with: >http://www.nationalpaintsupply.com/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,468 >2-123267-124574-nav-list,00.html >and make your own here: >http://www.epoxyproducts.com/2_fillers.html >and an alternative product distributor: >http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/to;ID;,Paints >or look thru Todd's favorite: >http://www.mcmaster.com/ >and a Florida source: >http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/categories.php?id=3 > > Since you are a prolific poster, we can expect an initial summary by >Sunday, right? > >Ed K >Greenville, SC, USA > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From lemenagerie22 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 10 09:33:05 2006 From: lemenagerie22 at yahoo.com (Jim White) Date: Fri Mar 10 12:33:17 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Bud: ICW depth In-Reply-To: <32446295.1141959891118.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20060310173305.7598.qmail@web30905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Art: We pretty much sail in the south end of the Laguna Madre, as far south as one can go....it averages about 4-6 feet deep with some deeper areas. Of course there are lots of spoil banks and shoaly areas. We also sail in the open Gulf, out Brazos Santiago Pass. We keep Menagerie in the water year round. Last year we hauled her out during an impending hurricane, and bottom painted at that time. Ramps are a real PITA, with few public ramps available. Most of the public ramps are shallow, silted, and dangerous, as they termiate in deep water and driving the trailer wheels off can be a nightmare.... I am currently overseeing the implementation of a new ramp here on the extreme south end of the island which will give access to the Laguna Madre (deep area) and the Brazos Pass, it has been a permitting nightmare! I believe that Snoopys might be up in the Aransas / Corpus area...We have Louies, Palm Street Pier, Amberjacks, Wahoos and Tequila Sunset and others all along the "strip", an area called "Thompkins Channel" which borders the quiet back side of the island. We'll often sail over there from Port Isabel, eat and drink, then sail back. It's a fun trip. Spring Break (Texas week) begins today. Oh joy. A week of madness, traffic jams and trash.... Cheers "Arthur H. Czerwonky" wrote: Jim, You mentioned the bay a while back, and I agree some kind of place for a sailboat. With the ICW so restricted, where do you take the boat, and do you keep it on the water. Do you have a problem with ramp access on Padre? Have you been by Snoopy's on the ICW - excellent dinner menu with dock as well as car access. I'm curious to ask the list also - has anyone found a really good bottom paint for in the water for a while, out for a while. The one part epoxy coatings are supposed to last 48-72 hours before peeling, VC Performance, a two part, is supposed to have unlimited endurance in or out, although no anti-fouling capability. There are excellent ideas hatching on the good areas to sail like St Joe and Cocoa. I wonder that no one has replied to the option of planning outings during the year, like CFYC. Art -----Original Message----- >From: Jim White >Sent: Mar 9, 2006 9:59 AM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Bud: ICW depth > >Bud: > The GICWW (Gulf Intra Coastal Waterway) here is less than 100' wide (16' average depth) for over 50 miles....bordered on both sides by water averaging <3' in depth.... > > Now THATS narrow and shallow! > > jw > >Bud wrote: > Dave, >the ICW is at least a mile wide here, and is typically deep (8'-12') >and is a great place to sail anything in >our class. I occasionally crew on a Lindbergh '28 (at times we've had 7 >people on the rail!) and we have no >trouble maneuvering around the course. Take a quick look on mapquest >and you will see wide water >from Scottsmoor down to Stuart which is over a 100 miles, with Melbourne >in the middle. You will be >suprised how wide and un-crowded this area is. If you want to see a >narrow ICW, take a look at Daytona >on mapquest. If I lived in Daytona I would have taken up motorcycles >instead of sailing. Oh, if you use >GoogleEarth, you can see just how sparsely populated the water really is. > >-Bud > > > >DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > >>Ed, We intend to look @ Hartwell and Keowee. I???m sure Rummy would welcome >>another Rhodes on his lake. At a minimum, it???s someone else he could beat - >>easily. Maybe he'd feel better about it if we arrived with a bottle of Mt >>Gay, or is it jar of Ben Gay? >> >>Regarding Sen Russell, you???re right, I???d forgotten. Regarding Strom, I???m >>sure he did work hard for, and represent, his constituents, he was re-elected >>many times. >> >>Art, Regarding Lanier, the Corps advertises 7.5M visitors/yr. Wow! >> >>Julia, I think you???re right, Hudson and Dunedin have survived on our list. >> To out knowledge, available marinas in that part of the world are at Tarpon >>Springs, we checked at Dunedin and Tarpon Springs, I don???t think Hudson is >>directly on the water. We were told that marinas in the area have been >>converted to waterfront condos or are wildly oversubscribed because of the >>conversion of so many other marinas to waterfront condos. As I recall, the guy >>running the Dunedin marina said it would take at least 2 years for a 22' sailboat >>to get a slip in their marina - if the boat were 30' or over he projected a >>4+ year wait - and we???d have to be residents of Dunedin to even be put on the >>list. There are slips available at Tarpon Springs. One issue with that >>entire area is the water is shallow water. We were told by a marina operator @ >>Tarpon Springs that if you sailed a mile off shore, the depth would increase >>by about a foot - you could walk home if something happened to the boat. >>The charts show a very extended shelf in that part of the world. The mean >>depth around Dunedin is about 2 feet, as I recall (could be wrong about the 2', >>but it???s shallow). So thin water is an issue in that part of Fla - but it is >>warm, so it???s still on the list. >> >>BobF, Thanks for your post, I checked back and saw Tom???s subsequent post. >>It explains everything we saw. But his 2 posts also identify a substantial >>problem: marina???s are out, at least for the near term, because the Florida >>EPA won???t let them dredge, ramps are not great, so Tom recommends a waterfront >>or canal back home. Tom reports they start at about $1.2M - and we all know >>they can be blown or washed away by the next big storm. Actually, when we >>were there we saw several canal backed homes that were in the $700Ks, but they >>were older (I???d guess ???50s) and pretty small - PG/PC has been around for a >>while and the part near the water likely developed first. So its getting >>problematic given PG/PCs storm history, boating infrastructure (or lack of >>infrastructure), and very near term development. >> >>I???d thought PG/PC might be a good place for the snowbird trick, just get a >>condo/townhouse and rent a slip - limit hurricane risk by limiting investment. >> The problem is no slips, few ramps, and a tremendous amount of development >>that???s going to exacerbate the need for slips and ramps (as I recall there >>are at least 3 high rise condos going in on PG Isles in a relatively small area >>just outside the park entrance no direct water access with any of them - and >>that???s only one place in PG). I???m starting to think that making PG/PC work >>could be a challenge. >> >>Bud, Thanks for suggesting Melbourne. Can you really sail that part of the >>ICW? Except as the ICW transects various sounds, the parts of the ICW I???ve >>seen on the east coast have been relatively narrow. I concluded sailing the >>ICW entails some sailing and a lot of motoring unless the wind cooperates. I >>have no experience sailing the ICW, am I wrong? >> >>Also, I can report that in the Palm Coast area, and possibly other areas ( >>i.e. Southport NC), developers have negotiated cut-outs from the ICW where they >>???ve built marinas for a hundred or so boats at a site. I can see real >>traffic jams developing in those areas when the multitude of local recreational >>boaters take to the relatively confined ICW ditch. Does Melbourne have that >>problem? I???m ambivalent about recreational sailing in the ICW, as opposed to >>using it as a passage from point A to point B, do people sail 22' boats >>recreationally in the ICW (this comment applies only to ???the big ditch??? part of >>the ICW not the sounds, river mouths, behind keys, etc)? >> >>Our next trek is pseudo-local, Kilmarnock VA, Washington NC via Edenton (try >>to check on our boat), and New Bern NC (again). This is our 3rd trip to New >>Bern, it has a lot going for it (Neuse River & Pamlico Sound), but it can >>get cold. Not as cold as Northern Va, but a lot colder than Fla. Later this >> year it???ll be the lakes trek. >> >>Thanks again to everyone for your input. Your local knowledge is really >>helpful. >> >>Dave >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> >> >> >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > >Jim White >Le Menagerie >www.lemenagerie.blogspot.com > >--------------------------------- >Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list Jim White Le Menagerie www.lemenagerie.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 10 11:34:52 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Fri Mar 10 12:34:59 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - bottom paints revisited In-Reply-To: <11047113.1142007175871.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Art, I went with epoxy + vc17 hard last year because of trialering. The ablative paint would rub off on the bunks of the trailer. I could not get to that area to reapply and therefor I had furry racing stripes down the bottom of my boat. Stripped it down last winter and went with a hard paint. There is some growth but nothing a scotch bright can't handle. I have been on and off the trailer 6 times since with no wear. Going out tomarrow to start the 5 or so hours of chores to get the boat ready to launch for the season. Ya Hooooo. Bob Weber >From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Art - bottom paints revisited >Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:12:55 -0500 (EST) > >Ed, >I have researched this over many months, content in my post, which you did >not keep attached to your reply. I am really looking for unique owner >experience. Who fully utilizes the portability of the R22, like keeping in >the lake for a spell, trail or store on shore for another few months, put >in at the coast, etc. The only manufacturer opinion I have had is for VC >two part. Maximum 'in the water' resistance in salt water is about seven >days to avoid buildup, much better than the 2-3 days of one part epoxy. >The surface stays hard, even with repeated in and out of water cycles. >This is from a manufacturer - anyone to refute this? >Thx, >Art > >-----Original Message----- > >From: ed kroposki > >Sent: Mar 10, 2006 7:41 AM > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - bottom paints revisited > > > >Art: > > This list has been around a number of years, unlike you. You need >to > >request that Bill Effros give you special instructions on past >discussions. > >And it would be appropriate to learn by what ever means how to research >the > >archives. We are waiting for you to become the resident guru on sailboat > >bottom paints... > > However, since we cannot get you to even routinely change the > >subject line, I guess we will have to spoon feed you. On Lake Hartwell >we > >use a Micron product that is bug killing and ablative. It works >reasonably > >well for boats like mine and Rummy's that stay in the water most of the > >time. As for dry sailing, I think that you need to study all the > >alternatives and report your findings to the list. > > In the past this subject has gotten good discussion. The products, > >companies, and our uses change so now is a good time for you to present a > >summary of the current information. Have at it... > > Here is some WEB information for you to start with: > >http://www.nationalpaintsupply.com/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,468 > >2-123267-124574-nav-list,00.html > >and make your own here: > >http://www.epoxyproducts.com/2_fillers.html > >and an alternative product distributor: > >http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/to;ID;,Paints > >or look thru Todd's favorite: > >http://www.mcmaster.com/ > >and a Florida source: > >http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/categories.php?id=3 > > > > Since you are a prolific poster, we can expect an initial summary by > >Sunday, right? > > > >Ed K > >Greenville, SC, USA > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From bill at effros.com Fri Mar 10 12:40:52 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Fri Mar 10 12:40:56 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - bottom paints revisited In-Reply-To: <11047113.1142007175871.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <11047113.1142007175871.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4411BA24.5070609@effros.com> Art, The short answer is "local knowledge". The problem is that no local has tried enough different products to truly be able to tell you which one works better than the others. They can only tell you which doesn't work at all. Practical Sailor is even worse. They recommend one paint one year, and another the next. Up here in salt water, we have been very successful using Petit (no time to check the spelling) ablative slime resistance (SR) products. I slap on (and I do mean slap on) a new coat every year. Some of it ablates off, but there's still plenty left in most places. The boat comes out totally clean in waters notorious for quick and aggressive growth both hard and soft. I recommend the Black bottom paint because the pigment must hide the greenish algaecide that is exposed as the paint sloughs off. You can take the boat out of the water as often as you like, and leave it out for as long as you like. In theory, the rain may cause some of the paint to ablate, but in practice, I've never seen that happen. The paint is very expensive. But it works. Bill Effros Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > Ed, > I have researched this over many months, content in my post, which you did not keep attached to your reply. I am really looking for unique owner experience. Who fully utilizes the portability of the R22, like keeping in the lake for a spell, trail or store on shore for another few months, put in at the coast, etc. The only manufacturer opinion I have had is for VC two part. Maximum 'in the water' resistance in salt water is about seven days to avoid buildup, much better than the 2-3 days of one part epoxy. The surface stays hard, even with repeated in and out of water cycles. This is from a manufacturer - anyone to refute this? > Thx, > Art > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: ed kroposki >> Sent: Mar 10, 2006 7:41 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art - bottom paints revisited >> >> Art: >> This list has been around a number of years, unlike you. You need to >> request that Bill Effros give you special instructions on past discussions. >> And it would be appropriate to learn by what ever means how to research the >> archives. We are waiting for you to become the resident guru on sailboat >> bottom paints... >> However, since we cannot get you to even routinely change the >> subject line, I guess we will have to spoon feed you. On Lake Hartwell we >> use a Micron product that is bug killing and ablative. It works reasonably >> well for boats like mine and Rummy's that stay in the water most of the >> time. As for dry sailing, I think that you need to study all the >> alternatives and report your findings to the list. >> In the past this subject has gotten good discussion. The products, >> companies, and our uses change so now is a good time for you to present a >> summary of the current information. Have at it... >> Here is some WEB information for you to start with: >> http://www.nationalpaintsupply.com/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,468 >> 2-123267-124574-nav-list,00.html >> and make your own here: >> http://www.epoxyproducts.com/2_fillers.html >> and an alternative product distributor: >> http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/to;ID;,Paints >> or look thru Todd's favorite: >> http://www.mcmaster.com/ >> and a Florida source: >> http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/categories.php?id=3 >> >> Since you are a prolific poster, we can expect an initial summary by >> Sunday, right? >> >> Ed K >> Greenville, SC, USA >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From ekroposki at charter.net Fri Mar 10 12:10:08 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Fri Mar 10 15:10:15 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art, Bob, Bill - bottom paints revisited In-Reply-To: <000201c64440$06c27200$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> References: <000201c64440$06c27200$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: <3346027.post@talk.nabble.com> Art, Your post was available in your original and in Jim's reply. How many copies does the sender need to reread? If you have done all this research, how about a summary? Did you look at http://www.epoxyproducts.com ? They sell the ingredients to make your own epoxy paint and they sell additives such as teflon and copper. Make your own two part epoxy paint with teflon and copper. You da man, do it. Look at http://www.nationalpaintsupply.com/ and consider using their Blue Water marine paints. You can match either Micron or Pettit, just look at the different marine paints. Of course this site is if you are going to do it yourself. This company is being used by many independent shops because the products are equivalent to the high dollar stuff. It is being currently recommended by Rummy's painter friend, Dockside Canvas, if you want to have it done with Blue Water, here is a guy that will do it for you ... I liked Bob's comment on VC 17. I believe that Bill is using the same stuff that Stan uses, but it is what is called ablative or soft paint. If you are going to be trailering a lot, I have turned my opinion to use a hard paint. VC 17 qualifies as a hard paint. There are other hard finish paints. Apparently, from the sites that I have mentioned, you can mix your own. If you use a hard bottom paint, there are other products that can be applied on a hard finish that also fight growth, but are not considered as toxic as the ablative products. This would be a consideration for those who race. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Art---bottom-paints-revisited-t1258705.html#a3346027 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From R22RumRunner at aol.com Fri Mar 10 19:49:14 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Fri Mar 10 19:49:22 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Scientifi proof....I knew it all along. Message-ID: <68.6739f083.3143788a@aol.com> It has been scientifically proven that if we drink one liter of water each day, at the end of the year we would have absorbed more than one kilo of Escherichia Coli Bacteria found in water that have contained feces. In other words, we are consuming one kilo of shit. However, we do not run that risk when drinking rum, gin, whiskey, beer, wine or other liquors because alcohol has to go through a distillation process of boiling, filtering and fermentation. It is my duty to communicate to all of you people who are drinking water, to stop doing so. It has been scientifically proven that it is unhealthy and bad for you. THEREFORE - It is better to drink beer and talk shit than to drink water and be full of it !! Rummy From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Fri Mar 10 20:03:06 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Fri Mar 10 20:03:07 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Nibble versus Nabble In-Reply-To: <3338807.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <0de101c644a7$8eae1b80$6401a8c0@mjm2> >From the search tips page(looks better in html, I set up this nabble just for this, that way now pwoplw could really search the archive.... Not let, about april 1 and micro extra with biox(PS TOP pick, but I still like petti with antislim) Your search What will search results show hello world Messages with both hello and world "hello world" Messages with the phrase hello world hello OR world Messages with either hello or world hello AND world Messages with hello and world; same as entering hello world "hello world" lucene Messages with both the phrase hello world and lucene hello NOT world Messages that have hello, but do not have world ("hello world" lucene) OR apache Messages with either both hello world and lucene, or apache lucene NOT "hello world" Messages with lucene, but not the phrase hello world hello* Messages that have words that begin with hello. For example, hello, helloworld, and hellooooooo. * is a wildcard and matches 0 or more characters. par? Messages that have words such as park, part, para, and so forth. ? is a 1-character wildcard and matches 1 and only 1 character. subject:"hello world" Messages with the phrase hello world in its subject only. subject:(hello world) Messages with hello and world in its subject only. Note the use of () to groups words together, rather than "" which denote a phrase. message:"hello world" Messages with the phrase hello world in its message body only. topic:(hello OR world) Messages in threads with either hello or world in its topic only. forum:Apache Messages in the Apache forum only. roam~ Messages with foam, roam, and so forth. In essence, messages that match or sound like roam. > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Tootle > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:26 AM > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Nibble versus Nabble > > > Michael, > All right great computer lizard, explain how to use www.nabble.com > to > search? Also, how do you find subject matter when experienced and > knowledgeable computer email users refuse to change the subject line? > I use an older and smaller and slower computer for email. Do to > program size I cannot keep the Google desktop on the computer. > Is your boat in the water? What do you use for bottom paint? > I will be back in a couple of hours. > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Art---bottom-paints- > revisited-t1258705.html#a3338807 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Fri Mar 10 17:50:54 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Fri Mar 10 20:51:00 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Nabble and Computer Help Desk... In-Reply-To: <0de101c644a7$8eae1b80$6401a8c0@mjm2> References: <000201c64440$06c27200$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> <0d1d01c64441$19e13370$6401a8c0@mjm2> <3338807.post@talk.nabble.com> <0de101c644a7$8eae1b80$6401a8c0@mjm2> Message-ID: <3350179.post@talk.nabble.com> Michael, Your post reminded of this exchange: This is a true story from the WordPerfect helpline. Needless to say, the help desk employee was fired; however, he/she is currently suing the Word Perfect organization for "Termination without Cause." Actual dialogue of a former WordPerfect Customer Support employee with a caller: Customer Support: "Ridge Hall computer assistant; may I help you?" Caller: "Yes, well, I'm having trouble with WordPerfect." CS: "What sort of trouble?" C: "Well, I was just typing along, and all of a sudden the words went away." CS: "Went away?" C: "They disappeared." CS: "Hmm. So what does your screen look like now?" C: "Nothing." CS: "Nothing?" C: "It's blank; it won't accept anything when I type." CS: "Are you still in WordPerfect, or did you get out?" C: "How do I tell?" CS: "Can you see the C: prompt on the screen?" C: "What's a sea-prompt?" CS: "Never mind. Can you move the cursor around on the screen?" C: "There isn't any cursor, I told you, it won't accept anything I type." CS: "Does your monitor have a power indicator?" C: "What's a monitor?" CS: "It's the thing with the screen on it that looks like a TV. Does it have a little light that tells you when it's on?" C: "I don't know." CS: "Well, then look on the back of the monitor and find where the power cord goes into it. Can you see that?" C: "Yes, I think so." CS: "Great. Follow the cord to the plug, and tell me if it's plugged into the wall." C: ".......Yes, it is." CS: "When you were behind the monitor, did you notice that there were two cables plugged into the back of it, not just one?" C: "No." CS: "Well, there are. I need you to look back there again and find the other cable." C: ".......Okay, here it is." CS: "Follow it for me, and tell me if it's plugged securely into the back of your computer." "I can't reach." CS: "Uh huh. Well, can you see if it is?" C: "No." CS: "Even if you maybe put your knee on something and lean way over?" C: "Oh, it's not because I don't have the right angle - it's because it's dark." CS: "Dark?" C: "Yes - the office light is off, and the only light I have is coming in from the window." CS: "Well, turn on the office light then." C: "I can't." CS: "No? Why not?" C: "Because there's a power outage." CS: "A power... A power outage? Ah, Okay, we've got it licked now. Do you still have the boxes and manuals and packing stuff your computer came in?" C: "Well, yes, I keep them in the closet." CS: "Good. Go get them, and unplug your system and pack it up just like it was when you got it. Then take it back to the store you bought it from." C: "Really? Is it that bad?" CS: "Yes, I'm afraid it is." C: "Well, all right then, I suppose. What do I tell them?" CS: "Tell them you're too stupid to own a computer." Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Art---bottom-paints-revisited-t1258705.html#a3350179 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From salm at mn.rr.com Fri Mar 10 21:52:51 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (salm@mn.rr.com) Date: Fri Mar 10 21:52:26 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Scientifi proof....I knew it all along. Message-ID: <380-22006361125251125@M2W126.mail2web.com> Professor Rummy, Greetings from California. Thanks for that scientific info. Speaking as one who talks shit with the best of 'em--and full of it as well--I'll take your advice to heart. Slim Original Message: ----------------- From: R22RumRunner@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:49:14 -0500 (EST) To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Scientifi proof....I knew it all along. It has been scientifically proven that if we drink one liter of water each day, at the end of the year we would have absorbed more than one kilo of Escherichia Coli Bacteria found in water that have contained feces. In other words, we are consuming one kilo of shit. However, we do not run that risk when drinking rum, gin, whiskey, beer, wine or other liquors because alcohol has to go through a distillation process of boiling, filtering and fermentation. It is my duty to communicate to all of you people who are drinking water, to stop doing so. It has been scientifically proven that it is unhealthy and bad for you. THEREFORE - It is better to drink beer and talk shit than to drink water and be full of it !! Rummy __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From bnoreau at msn.com Fri Mar 10 23:40:08 2006 From: bnoreau at msn.com (Robert Noreau) Date: Fri Mar 10 23:40:17 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] intro form the guy with the leaky boat, thank for reminding me of my mannors (or lack of them) Rummy! Message-ID: Hello, My name is Bob Noreau, I answer to "Capt'n Bob", or "1 Eye Bob", yes, I wear an eye patch. Have for 20+ years. Thought it would fit me better if I got a sailboat under my butt. I did. Yes, "Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" is my favorite letter. That a clear enough into as for the shmuck with the leaky boat??? Joking aside, I have owned several smaller sailboats of all types. Mostly all have been handy man specials. I am just a plain blue-collar guy. I have dreamed about a 22' foot sailboat for years. I stumbled into 1 at and auction in midwinter (in Cold New England) She is in my back yard waiting for warm weather to get started the several repairs needing to be repaired. I must admit, some of the task at hand are a bit over my head but the budget only allows for me to do my own repairs. Your kind advice would be greatly appreciated. To be honest with you I seldom read this daily e-posting, as much of this is out of my grasp until I have the chance to launch this boat and gain knowledge of the lifestyle. I am certain the obsession will take hold of me once I begin sailing it. Thanks Bob listed below are the original postings Message: 11 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 01:07:34 -0500 From: "Robert Noreau" > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Any past postings about repairing leak between the hulls? Where the miol meets together. To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I just got the boat this winter, looks like it had been leaking at that area in the cabin where the roof meets the wall, from the mast area forward? Others with this experience and solution?? please BNoreau@MSN.com> From R22RumRunner@aol.com Thu Mar 9 06:54:09 2006 Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > How about a little introduction including your real name. This is not a severe problem and an easy fix that has been discussed many times and is available in the archives. However, going through the archives can be a pain and also time consuming. After a proper introduction, we will be glad to help you. Rummy -------------- next part -------------- Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 6983 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/10/attachment.jpg From eroncol at aol.com Sat Mar 11 00:41:11 2006 From: eroncol at aol.com (eroncol@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 00:41:18 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] marinas in roclk hall Message-ID: <8C812E589A7BB13-1EFC-6028@FWM-M43.sysops.aol.com> Hello, I'm a new owner of an '87 refurbished boat. I purchased Tim Toth's boat. it is sitting in my backyard in Wynnewood, PA. but, want like to leave it in a marina for the season. I've read your chapter, Mary Lou, about your dry sailing and then leaving your boat in the water. I think I want to start out the easy way and leave it in the water to begin with. Any recommendations from any and all for marinas in the Rock Hall/Swan Creek area? Economical and good services? Thanks Ron Coleman From salm at mn.rr.com Sat Mar 11 04:02:49 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (salm@mn.rr.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 04:02:54 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] intro form the guy with the leaky boat, thank for reminding me of my mannors (or lack of them) Rummy! Message-ID: <380-2200636119249659@M2W042.mail2web.com> Well sir, we already have a Capn' Bob here on the lost so we'll call ya 1 Eye Bob.... and if Rrrrrrrrrrrrrr is your favorite letter, then I supose your favorite subject in school was Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrithmatic or Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrchiology and your favorite vegetable is Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrugula and a lot of pirates had Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrthritis! Wait, I have more--your favorite movie is Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrthur Ever been to Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrkansas? They have so many spiders down there you could get Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrachnophobia. Ever been to Paris and seen the Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrc de Triumphe? Somebody stop me..... ever been to Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgentina? If you go there, don't get into an Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgument with any Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrristocrats or they might Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrest you and poisen your food with Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsenic! Slim Original Message: ----------------- From: Robert Noreau bnoreau@msn.com Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:40:08 -0500 To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] intro form the guy with the leaky boat,thank for reminding me of my mannors (or lack of them) Rummy! Hello, My name is Bob Noreau, I answer to "Capt'n Bob", or "1 Eye Bob", yes, I wear an eye patch. Have for 20+ years. Thought it would fit me better if I got a sailboat under my butt. I did. Yes, "Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" is my favorite letter. That a clear enough into as for the shmuck with the leaky boat??? Joking aside, I have owned several smaller sailboats of all types. Mostly all have been handy man specials. I am just a plain blue-collar guy. I have dreamed about a 22' foot sailboat for years. I stumbled into 1 at and auction in midwinter (in Cold New England) She is in my back yard waiting for warm weather to get started the several repairs needing to be repaired. I must admit, some of the task at hand are a bit over my head but the budget only allows for me to do my own repairs. Your kind advice would be greatly appreciated. To be honest with you I seldom read this daily e-posting, as much of this is out of my grasp until I have the chance to launch this boat and gain knowledge of the lifestyle. I am certain the obsession will take hold of me once I begin sailing it. Thanks Bob listed below are the original postings Message: 11 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 01:07:34 -0500 From: "Robert Noreau" > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Any past postings about repairing leak between the hulls? Where the miol meets together. To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I just got the boat this winter, looks like it had been leaking at that area in the cabin where the roof meets the wall, from the mast area forward? Others with this experience and solution?? please BNoreau@MSN.com> From R22RumRunner@aol.com Thu Mar 9 06:54:09 2006 Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > How about a little introduction including your real name. This is not a severe problem and an easy fix that has been discussed many times and is available in the archives. However, going through the archives can be a pain and also time consuming. After a proper introduction, we will be glad to help you. Rummy -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From salm at mn.rr.com Sat Mar 11 06:35:48 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (salm@mn.rr.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 06:33:21 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC Message-ID: <380-220063611113548609@M2W110.mail2web.com> I have a chance to take a gig at a new lakeside club on Lake Norman just north of Charlotte. Anybody been there? I've heard it's big money, big NASCAR and big power boats. Slim -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From ekroposki at charter.net Sat Mar 11 08:00:56 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (ed kroposki) Date: Sat Mar 11 08:01:18 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] MOMENTOUS OCCASION Message-ID: <000f01c6450b$d67e5c40$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> ATTENTION ALL RHODIES!!! Today is a momentous occasion, Saturday, March 11th. Today is Stan Spitzer's birthday. Since he should not be working today, just celebrating, call, email, or send flowers. Happy Birthday, Stan. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -------------- next part -------------- Name: JBsailboat.gif Type: image/gif Size: 24835 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/11/JBsailboat.gif From bill at effros.com Sat Mar 11 08:17:45 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Sat Mar 11 08:17:51 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Happy Birthday Stan! In-Reply-To: <000f01c6450b$d67e5c40$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> References: <000f01c6450b$d67e5c40$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: <4412CDF9.60908@effros.com> With Love, Bill Effros From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sat Mar 11 08:24:57 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 08:25:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] intro form the guy with the leaky boat, thank for remindi... Message-ID: <1fa.1b94b1d1.314429a9@aol.com> Slim, I had the check the time of your post to see how much alcohol was involved in your post. My guess is that you were only half full. Rrrrrrrrrummy From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sat Mar 11 08:25:46 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 08:25:54 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC Message-ID: <2d7.404a137.314429da@aol.com> Slimmy, You have all the information correct. What time of year is the gig? Rrrrrrrrrrummy From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sat Mar 11 08:26:27 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 08:26:35 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] MOMENTOUS OCCASION Message-ID: <20d.13fcdd13.31442a03@aol.com> Stan, How old are you? Rrrrrrrrrummy From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sat Mar 11 08:49:28 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 08:49:43 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] intro form the guy with the leaky boat, thank for remindi... Message-ID: <2c8.4fa1b42.31442f68@aol.com> Great introduction, now for the fix. The top deck and hull come together beneath the rub rail. The fix is to remove the rubber part of the rub rail. This will expose either the plastic or aluminum (depending on year) base of the rub rail. It is most likely pop riveted in place. Drill out the heads of the rivets and you will be able to remove the base. You will notice the base piece has a lip which curls under the joint. Clean the area of any old sealant and dirt and I would recommend a final cleaning with a good solvent. Once the area is clean and dry, I would recommend sealing it with a one part polyurethane sealant like a product called NP1. It is available at most roofing supply company's and Sherwin William stores have their own brand. If you can't find it, anything that is a one part polyurethane will suffice. It is sticky like nothing else and remains pliable for twelve years in extreme weather conditions. Great for using on boats. Instead of applying it to the seam with a trailing motion, you will apply it with the nozzle facing forward, forcing sealant into the joint. I found cutting the tip off flat further down and then notching it with a V was an easy way to apply it. Place a small bead on the lip of the base and reinstall with pop rivets. You will find the old pop rivets inside the cabin for some time to come. Now for the real question. I am going to assume that you have actually sailed the boat and buried the rail enough to force water in the hull in this manner. Rain water is not likely to enter the boat through this joint. If it is, then you have a problem with a completely different fix. I hope this helps. If you need further assistance, please ask. Rrrrrrrrrrummy From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Sat Mar 11 09:39:22 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Sat Mar 11 09:39:23 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] intro form the guy with the leaky boat, thank for remindi... In-Reply-To: <2c8.4fa1b42.31442f68@aol.com> Message-ID: <0eaa01c64519$9617a9f0$6401a8c0@mjm2> Rummy is right if it the deck/hull joint, but It did not sound like the boat has been in that water yet. Water can travel in very strange ways; I would subjects the hose test. Put someone in the boat with a flashlight and paper towels, close it up, and starting from the top down go from fitting to fitting with a garden hose holding it on each location for about a minute, see what leacks. The chain plates(the stainless that the stays attach to) and port light are the high odd's, but you really need to take the time and do it systematic, it could be coming from any hardware/fastener going thought the deck. The boat is old enough that the "bedding" has dryied out and cracked on anything and everything. -mjm > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of R22RumRunner@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:49 AM > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] intro form the guy with the leaky boat,thank > for remindi... > > Great introduction, now for the fix. The top deck and hull come together > beneath the rub rail. The fix is to remove the rubber part of the rub > rail. This > will expose either the plastic or aluminum (depending on year) base of the > rub rail. It is most likely pop riveted in place. Drill out the heads of > the > rivets and you will be able to remove the base. > You will notice the base piece has a lip which curls under the joint. > Clean > the area of any old sealant and dirt and I would recommend a final > cleaning > with a good solvent. Once the area is clean and dry, I would recommend > sealing > it with a one part polyurethane sealant like a product called NP1. It is > available at most roofing supply company's and Sherwin William stores > have their > own brand. If you can't find it, anything that is a one part polyurethane > will suffice. It is sticky like nothing else and remains pliable for > twelve > years in extreme weather conditions. Great for using on boats. > Instead of applying it to the seam with a trailing motion, you will apply > it > with the nozzle facing forward, forcing sealant into the joint. I found > cutting the tip off flat further down and then notching it with a V was an > easy > way to apply it. Place a small bead on the lip of the base and reinstall > with > pop rivets. You will find the old pop rivets inside the cabin for some > time > to come. > Now for the real question. I am going to assume that you have actually > sailed the boat and buried the rail enough to force water in the hull in > this > manner. Rain water is not likely to enter the boat through this joint. If > it is, > then you have a problem with a completely different fix. > I hope this helps. If you need further assistance, please ask. > > Rrrrrrrrrrummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ellner at pressenter.com Sat Mar 11 08:55:13 2006 From: ellner at pressenter.com (Ellner) Date: Sat Mar 11 09:55:23 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] MOMENTOUS OCCASION In-Reply-To: <000f01c6450b$d67e5c40$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20060311085447.023f6c70@pop.pressenter.com> > Happy Birthday, Stan! > >Name: JBsailboat.gif Type: image/gif Size: 24835 bytes Desc: not available >Url: >http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/11/JBsailboat.gif >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From robert at squirrelhaven.com Sat Mar 11 10:28:04 2006 From: robert at squirrelhaven.com (Robert Skinner) Date: Sat Mar 11 10:29:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day References: <000f01c6450b$d67e5c40$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: <4412EC84.7C3BD090@squirrelhaven.com> On the assumption that Ed has his facts straight: Stan - may you live long and well, be surrounded by friends, and enjoy the respect of your peers, few as they may be. Jai bhagwan, /Robert Skinner http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jai+Bhagwan&defid=1146387 ------------------------------------------------------------ ed kroposki wrote: > ... Today is Stan Spitzer's birthday... From julie at circle7.net Sat Mar 11 10:08:02 2006 From: julie at circle7.net (Julie Thorndycraft) Date: Sat Mar 11 11:07:05 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Happy Birthday to Stan and my Mom References: <000f01c6450b$d67e5c40$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> <4412CDF9.60908@effros.com> Message-ID: <001101c64525$f9290780$6701a8c0@DJC3YR81> Happy Birthday, Stan - I hope you have a wonderful day! You share it with my Mom, who is 86 and still smiling. Julie and Dan and of course, Blue Loon From jbconnolly at comcast.net Sat Mar 11 14:16:00 2006 From: jbconnolly at comcast.net (jbconnolly@comcast.net) Date: Sat Mar 11 14:16:30 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Happy Birthday Stan Message-ID: <20060311191629.06DA47C001@web4.thecenturiongroup.com> Stan, Happy birthday. Hope you are having a great day. Jim Connolly From mltroy at verizon.net Sat Mar 11 16:22:26 2006 From: mltroy at verizon.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Sat Mar 11 17:22:32 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day Message-ID: <16923390.1142115746157.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net> Stan, Let me add all my best wishes for a very happy birthday and for many many more! Hope your day andyour year are very fine indeed! Mary Lou 1991 22 Fretless >From: Robert Skinner >Date: Sat Mar 11 09:28:04 CST 2006 >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day >On the assumption that Ed has his facts straight: > >Stan - may you live long and well, be surrounded by friends, >and enjoy the respect of your peers, few as they may be. >Jai bhagwan, >/Robert Skinner >http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jai+Bhagwan&defid=1146387 > >------------------------------------------------------------ >ed kroposki wrote: >> ... Today is Stan Spitzer's birthday... >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From re.miller at att.net Sat Mar 11 17:51:18 2006 From: re.miller at att.net (Russell Miller) Date: Sat Mar 11 17:51:28 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] marinas in roclk hall References: <8C812E589A7BB13-1EFC-6028@FWM-M43.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <002e01c6455e$55986190$2f01a8c0@rmiller> We keep ours at Sping Cove Marina in Rock Hall. Nice, Clean nice pool, dingy rack (no charge), friendly people. If interested call Madelyn Reni (Owner) at 410.639.2110. The address is - 21035 Spring Cove Rd PO Box 659 Rock Hall, MD 21661 Russ Miller s/v Bulldog ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 12:41 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] marinas in roclk hall > Hello, > I'm a new owner of an '87 refurbished boat. I purchased Tim Toth's boat. it is sitting in my backyard in Wynnewood, PA. but, want like to leave it in a marina for the season. I've read your chapter, Mary Lou, about your dry sailing and then leaving your boat in the water. I think I want to start out the easy way and leave it in the water to begin with. Any recommendations from any and all for marinas in the Rock Hall/Swan Creek area? Economical and good services? > Thanks > Ron Coleman > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From re.miller at att.net Sat Mar 11 17:54:35 2006 From: re.miller at att.net (Russell Miller) Date: Sat Mar 11 17:54:45 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] marinas in roclk hall References: <8C812E589A7BB13-1EFC-6028@FWM-M43.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <003501c6455e$cb0f55a0$2f01a8c0@rmiller> Ron - In addition, none in Rock Hall are economical, we are paying $3000 for a 32' slip, the smaller onesare somewhat less, but ask Madelyn. In the way of services,we use Haven Harbor which is just a short way across the water. They also have a very nice Marina. Ruu=ss s/v Bulldog ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 12:41 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] marinas in roclk hall > Hello, > I'm a new owner of an '87 refurbished boat. I purchased Tim Toth's boat. it is sitting in my backyard in Wynnewood, PA. but, want like to leave it in a marina for the season. I've read your chapter, Mary Lou, about your dry sailing and then leaving your boat in the water. I think I want to start out the easy way and leave it in the water to begin with. Any recommendations from any and all for marinas in the Rock Hall/Swan Creek area? Economical and good services? > Thanks > Ron Coleman > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sat Mar 11 17:59:59 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 18:00:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day Message-ID: <1de.4dc8e325.3144b06f@aol.com> Mary Lou, I still want to know how old he is. :) Ed claimed at one time that Stan was older than dirt. I just want something to compare it to. Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy From re.miller at verizon.net Sat Mar 11 18:02:31 2006 From: re.miller at verizon.net (RUSSELL E MILLER) Date: Sat Mar 11 18:02:42 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan Message-ID: <00a301c6455f$e0896c30$2f01a8c0@rmiller> Let us also wish you a Happy Birthday, also hope you are feeling better. Russ, Shirlee & Will The Bulldoggers From salm at mn.rr.com Sat Mar 11 19:00:45 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (salm@mn.rr.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 19:00:52 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC Message-ID: <380-2200630120045831@M2W070.mail2web.com> Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy, The club hasn't opened yet. It's scheduled to open in May. From the description it sounds a little like that place you took me to for lunch when I was down there. Docks right at the club, outdoor deck seating, etc. I'm working this week in California with the very guy who's opening it so I'm really sucking up. 8-) He lives on Lake Norman and is excited that he'll actually be able to drive his boat to work. How cool is that? He hasn't booked any players yet but I'm hoping for a May or June booking. Maybe I'd even haul the boat down. Slim Original Message: ----------------- From: R22RumRunner@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:25:46 -0500 (EST) To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC Slimmy, You have all the information correct. What time of year is the gig? Rrrrrrrrrrummy __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sat Mar 11 19:46:17 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 19:46:25 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC Message-ID: <284.6f9019e.3144c959@aol.com> Slim, Do you know anything about NASCAR? Hope so, because it's close to being religion in the south. Let me know when you'll be there. Kim and I have already talked about coming up and spending the night. Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy From salm at mn.rr.com Sat Mar 11 20:14:16 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (salm@mn.rr.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 20:14:22 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC Message-ID: <380-22006301211416304@M2W027.mail2web.com> NASCAR... Hmmmm, lemme think... car races, right? IIRC they go counter clockwise. Original Message: ----------------- From: R22RumRunner@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:46:17 -0500 (EST) To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC Slim, Do you know anything about NASCAR? Hope so, because it's close to being religion in the south. Let me know when you'll be there. Kim and I have already talked about coming up and spending the night. Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From czerwonky at earthlink.net Sat Mar 11 20:46:55 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Sat Mar 11 20:47:01 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day Message-ID: <24304323.1142128016118.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Rummy, Think of 80. Definite for a bottle of Mt. Gay, wouldn't you say? Art -----Original Message----- >From: R22RumRunner@aol.com >Sent: Mar 11, 2006 5:59 PM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day > >Mary Lou, >I still want to know how old he is. :) Ed claimed at one time that Stan was >older than dirt. I just want something to compare it to. > >Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sat Mar 11 21:05:39 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 21:05:47 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day Message-ID: <2db.40e8b38.3144dbf3@aol.com> Art, There is no way that Sir Stanley is 80, 72 at the most. Rrrrrrrrrrrummy From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sat Mar 11 21:09:21 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 21:09:28 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC Message-ID: <25a.864b91f.3144dcd1@aol.com> Good grief. You have a lot to learn before you could ever live, let alone work in the south. You think pro football fans are rambunctious in the north, you ain't seen nothing like two opposing NASCAR fans getting into it. Kinda like your nights in Minneapolis when the Badger or Packer fans come to town. Can you say "Ka Ching"? The sound of money in the cup. Just wear a #8 shirt and see what happens. Rummy From hnw555 at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 21:16:59 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Sat Mar 11 21:17:04 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC In-Reply-To: <25a.864b91f.3144dcd1@aol.com> References: <25a.864b91f.3144dcd1@aol.com> Message-ID: #8!!! Forget the Earnhardts and Chevy. The smart race fan follows Roush Racing, #6 Mark Martin and Ford! GO NASCAR!!! Hank On 3/11/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com wrote: > > Good grief. You have a lot to learn before you could ever live, let alone > work in the south. You think pro football fans are rambunctious in the > north, > you ain't seen nothing like two opposing NASCAR fans getting into it. > Kinda > like your nights in Minneapolis when the Badger or Packer fans come to > town. Can > you say "Ka Ching"? The sound of money in the cup. > Just wear a #8 shirt and see what happens. > > Rummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sat Mar 11 21:32:05 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 21:32:16 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC Message-ID: <2f3.cf8373.3144e225@aol.com> Hank, You have got to be kidding me. #6 has to take one of his sponsors (Viagra for the uninformed) pills just to finish the race. He should have retired last year as planned. Personally I'm a 24 fan. :) Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy From hnw555 at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 21:36:09 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Sat Mar 11 21:36:13 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC In-Reply-To: <2f3.cf8373.3144e225@aol.com> References: <2f3.cf8373.3144e225@aol.com> Message-ID: Rummy, Thems fightin' words! The only one worse than Little E is Gordon. Except for Kurt Busch, EVERYONE hates him! Let's see, after the first two races, #6 is in 6th place and #24 in 15th. I think Mark deserves to stick around another year. Hank On 3/11/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com wrote: > > Hank, > You have got to be kidding me. #6 has to take one of his sponsors (Viagra > for the uninformed) pills just to finish the race. He should have retired > last > year as planned. Personally I'm a 24 fan. :) > > Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sat Mar 11 21:49:13 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 21:49:19 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC Message-ID: <2e1.3d1237e.3144e629@aol.com> Mark Martin should have retired last season and gone to watching his son race. Seriously, I have always liked Mark Martin, just couldn't get on board with his sponsor. :) Until this year I have always been a Rusty Wallace fan. No need to punish me any more than what I have already gone through. Any one that can race through the streets of Charlotte (100 mph +) at 1:00 a.m. and outrun the local cops will get my vote every day of the week. They did have a conversation with him the next day, but no arrests were made. Rummy From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sat Mar 11 21:50:54 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 21:50:58 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC Message-ID: <2cc.4cc5343.3144e68e@aol.com> Hank, I thought this was a sailing site?????? Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy........... From hnw555 at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 21:53:18 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Sat Mar 11 21:53:20 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC In-Reply-To: <2e1.3d1237e.3144e629@aol.com> References: <2e1.3d1237e.3144e629@aol.com> Message-ID: I remember back in the '80s, I think, Rusty was bithing and moaning about Elliot driving conservatively in the last race to ensure a high enough position to win the championship. Rusty said that you should always race to win. Lo and behold, the next year, Rusty was in the exact same position and his tune changed when the championship was on the line. Mark's sponsor this year is AAA. So he should be able to find his way without any problems. ;-) Hank On 3/11/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com wrote: > > Mark Martin should have retired last season and gone to watching his son > race. Seriously, I have always liked Mark Martin, just couldn't get on > board > with his sponsor. :) > Until this year I have always been a Rusty Wallace fan. No need to > punish me > any more than what I have already gone through. Any one that can race > through > the streets of Charlotte (100 mph +) at 1:00 a.m. and outrun the local > cops > will get my vote every day of the week. > They did have a conversation with him the next day, but no arrests were > made. > > Rummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From hnw555 at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 21:53:55 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Sat Mar 11 21:53:59 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC In-Reply-To: <2cc.4cc5343.3144e68e@aol.com> References: <2cc.4cc5343.3144e68e@aol.com> Message-ID: Sailboats Race, too! On 3/11/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com wrote: > > Hank, > I thought this was a sailing site?????? > > Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy........... > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Sat Mar 11 21:54:25 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Sat Mar 11 21:55:43 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC In-Reply-To: <2cc.4cc5343.3144e68e@aol.com> Message-ID: <0f3b01c64580$45f03b60$6401a8c0@mjm2> If it makes you feel any better, I have no clue what you and hank talking about and I ever fit doing my taxes more interesting -mjm > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of R22RumRunner@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:51 PM > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > Hank, > I thought this was a sailing site?????? > > Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy........... > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From hnw555 at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 21:57:27 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Sat Mar 11 21:57:31 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC In-Reply-To: <0f3b01c64580$45f03b60$6401a8c0@mjm2> References: <2cc.4cc5343.3144e68e@aol.com> <0f3b01c64580$45f03b60$6401a8c0@mjm2> Message-ID: Okay, I'm currently taking a class on cryptography and actually doing my Mid-term right now, but for the life of me I can't decrypt "I ever fit doing my taxes more interesting" Hank On 3/11/06, Michel Meltzer wrote: > > If it makes you feel any better, I have no clue what you and hank > talking about and I ever fit doing my taxes more interesting > > -mjm > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of R22RumRunner@aol.com > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:51 PM > > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > > > Hank, > > I thought this was a sailing site?????? > > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy........... > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From dwbrad at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 19:37:19 2006 From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley) Date: Sat Mar 11 22:37:23 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Happy Birthday Stan Message-ID: <5c154df70603111937v2e7a2098x35a725699072bf76@mail.gmail.com> Stan, let me add my best wishes to the others. Happy birthday and good health. Dave -- David Bradley 203.253.9973 dwbrad@gmail.com From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Sat Mar 11 22:53:08 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Sat Mar 11 22:53:07 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0f4a01c64588$79caa3f0$6401a8c0@mjm2> Ok, ok, ever->even fit->find, it a simply substitution code . I got taxes due on Wednesday. My next trick will be to use one time pad :-)-mjm > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:57 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > Okay, I'm currently taking a class on cryptography and actually doing my > Mid-term right now, but for the life of me I can't decrypt "I ever fit > doing > my taxes more interesting" > > Hank > > > On 3/11/06, Michel Meltzer wrote: > > > > If it makes you feel any better, I have no clue what you and hank > > talking about and I ever fit doing my taxes more interesting > > > > -mjm > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of R22RumRunner@aol.com > > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:51 PM > > > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > > > > > Hank, > > > I thought this was a sailing site?????? > > > > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy........... > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From salm at mn.rr.com Sat Mar 11 23:10:31 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (salm@mn.rr.com) Date: Sat Mar 11 23:10:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] NASCAR Message-ID: <380-22006301241031846@M2W092.mail2web.com> OK, I'll bite. What exactly is NASCAR? Does it include Stock cars, formula, Indy cars, funny cars, sprint cars (that's what Rik races, right?) drag races, grand prix? Slim -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dwbrad at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 20:20:28 2006 From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley) Date: Sat Mar 11 23:20:32 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] NASCAR In-Reply-To: <380-22006301241031846@M2W092.mail2web.com> References: <380-22006301241031846@M2W092.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <5c154df70603112020u18db2f94s932ebebab54d1df9@mail.gmail.com> Slim, I think it stands for Noisy and Smoky Cars and Rednecks. : -) Dave On 3/11/06, salm@mn.rr.com wrote: > > OK, I'll bite. What exactly is NASCAR? Does it include Stock cars, > formula, Indy cars, funny cars, sprint cars (that's > what Rik races, right?) drag races, grand prix? > > Slim > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- David Bradley 203.253.9973 dwbrad@gmail.com From hnw555 at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 23:38:59 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Sat Mar 11 23:39:03 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] NASCAR In-Reply-To: <380-22006301241031846@M2W092.mail2web.com> References: <380-22006301241031846@M2W092.mail2web.com> Message-ID: NASCAR stands for National Association For Stock Car Auto Racing The cars are theoretically modeled after late model american made cars, although the body shape is the only simularity. The cars cost about $500,000 each and each team probably has a dozen or more cars to get through the season. Currently, the cars are the Chevy Monte Carle, Ford Fusion and Dodge Intreped. Next year, the Toyota Camry will join NASCAR as they are made hear in the US. If you want to get a good idea about NASCAR, rent the movie, "Days of Thunder" with Tom Cruise. Hank On 3/11/06, salm@mn.rr.com wrote: > > OK, I'll bite. What exactly is NASCAR? Does it include Stock cars, > formula, Indy cars, funny cars, sprint cars (that's > what Rik races, right?) drag races, grand prix? > > Slim > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From hnw555 at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 23:40:38 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Sat Mar 11 23:40:47 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC In-Reply-To: <0f4a01c64588$79caa3f0$6401a8c0@mjm2> References: <0f4a01c64588$79caa3f0$6401a8c0@mjm2> Message-ID: Both of those were on my mid-term, substitution and one-time pad. Hank On 3/11/06, Michel Meltzer wrote: > > Ok, ok, ever->even fit->find, it a simply substitution code . I got > taxes due on Wednesday. My next trick will be to use one time pad > :-)-mjm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:57 PM > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > > > Okay, I'm currently taking a class on cryptography and actually doing > my > > Mid-term right now, but for the life of me I can't decrypt "I ever fit > > doing > > my taxes more interesting" > > > > Hank > > > > > > On 3/11/06, Michel Meltzer wrote: > > > > > > If it makes you feel any better, I have no clue what you and hank > > > talking about and I ever fit doing my taxes more interesting > > > > > > -mjm > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of R22RumRunner@aol.com > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:51 PM > > > > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > > > > > > > Hank, > > > > I thought this was a sailing site?????? > > > > > > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy........... > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Sun Mar 12 00:09:22 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Sun Mar 12 00:09:22 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0f5901c64593$1fe72970$6401a8c0@mjm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ok, my writing has been reduced to entropy :-) -mjm > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:41 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > Both of those were on my mid-term, substitution and one-time pad. > Hank > > > On 3/11/06, Michel Meltzer wrote: > > > > Ok, ok, ever->even fit->find, it a simply substitution code . I got > > taxes due on Wednesday. My next trick will be to use one time pad > > :-)-mjm > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank > > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:57 PM > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > > > > > Okay, I'm currently taking a class on cryptography and actually doing > > my > > > Mid-term right now, but for the life of me I can't decrypt "I ever fit > > > doing > > > my taxes more interesting" > > > > > > Hank > > > > > > > > > On 3/11/06, Michel Meltzer wrote: > > > > > > > > If it makes you feel any better, I have no clue what you and hank > > > > talking about and I ever fit doing my taxes more interesting > > > > > > > > -mjm > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > > > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of R22RumRunner@aol.com > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:51 PM > > > > > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > > > > > > > > > Hank, > > > > > I thought this was a sailing site?????? > > > > > > > > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy........... > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From eroncol at aol.com Sun Mar 12 00:14:17 2006 From: eroncol at aol.com (eroncol@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 12 00:14:32 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day In-Reply-To: <16923390.1142115746157.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net> References: <16923390.1142115746157.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <8C813AAF26E94C0-AE0-155D@mblk-r26.sysops.aol.com> Stan, I wish you a hearty happy birthday, too. Wishing you the best. Ron Coleman -----Original Message----- From: Mary Lou Troy To: The Rhodes 22 mail list Sent: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:22:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day Stan, Let me add all my best wishes for a very happy birthday and for many many more! Hope your day andyour year are very fine indeed! Mary Lou 1991 22 Fretless >From: Robert Skinner >Date: Sat Mar 11 09:28:04 CST 2006 >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day >On the assumption that Ed has his facts straight: > >Stan - may you live long and well, be surrounded by friends, >and enjoy the respect of your peers, few as they may be. >Jai bhagwan, >/Robert Skinner >http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jai+Bhagwan&defid=1146387 > >------------------------------------------------------------ >ed kroposki wrote: >> ... Today is Stan Spitzer's birthday... >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From eroncol at aol.com Sun Mar 12 00:19:30 2006 From: eroncol at aol.com (eroncol@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 12 00:19:38 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] marinas in roclk hall In-Reply-To: <002e01c6455e$55986190$2f01a8c0@rmiller> References: <8C812E589A7BB13-1EFC-6028@FWM-M43.sysops.aol.com> <002e01c6455e$55986190$2f01a8c0@rmiller> Message-ID: <8C813ABAD0EF96F-AE0-1570@mblk-r26.sysops.aol.com> Thanks Russ. I'll be travelling down to Rock Hall Sunday (today, at this point) to get the lay of the land and will call Madeline. Ron Coleman -----Original Message----- From: Russell Miller To: The Rhodes 22 mail list Sent: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 17:51:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] marinas in roclk hall We keep ours at Sping Cove Marina in Rock Hall. Nice, Clean nice pool, dingy rack (no charge), friendly people. If interested call Madelyn Reni (Owner) at 410.639.2110. The address is - 21035 Spring Cove Rd PO Box 659 Rock Hall, MD 21661 Russ Miller s/v Bulldog ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 12:41 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] marinas in roclk hall > Hello, > I'm a new owner of an '87 refurbished boat. I purchased Tim Toth's boat. it is sitting in my backyard in Wynnewood, PA. but, want like to leave it in a marina for the season. I've read your chapter, Mary Lou, about your dry sailing and then leaving your boat in the water. I think I want to start out the easy way and leave it in the water to begin with. Any recommendations from any and all for marinas in the Rock Hall/Swan Creek area? Economical and good services? > Thanks > Ron Coleman > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From hnw555 at gmail.com Sun Mar 12 00:23:15 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Sun Mar 12 00:23:18 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC In-Reply-To: <0f5901c64593$1fe72970$6401a8c0@mjm2> References: <0f5901c64593$1fe72970$6401a8c0@mjm2> Message-ID: You win. No way am I trying to figure that one out! On 3/12/06, Michel Meltzer wrote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ok, my writing has been reduced to entropy :-) > > -mjm > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:41 PM > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > > > Both of those were on my mid-term, substitution and one-time pad. > > Hank > > > > > > On 3/11/06, Michel Meltzer wrote: > > > > > > Ok, ok, ever->even fit->find, it a simply substitution code . I got > > > taxes due on Wednesday. My next trick will be to use one time pad > > > :-)-mjm > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:57 PM > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > > > > > > > Okay, I'm currently taking a class on cryptography and actually > doing > > > my > > > > Mid-term right now, but for the life of me I can't decrypt "I ever > fit > > > > doing > > > > my taxes more interesting" > > > > > > > > Hank > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/11/06, Michel Meltzer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If it makes you feel any better, I have no clue what you and > hank > > > > > talking about and I ever fit doing my taxes more interesting > > > > > > > > > > -mjm > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org > [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > > > > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of R22RumRunner@aol.com > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:51 PM > > > > > > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > > > > > > > > > > > Hank, > > > > > > I thought this was a sailing site?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy........... > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From tnrhodey at hotmail.com Sun Mar 12 07:14:51 2006 From: tnrhodey at hotmail.com (TN Rhodey) Date: Sun Mar 12 07:14:57 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] intro form the guy with the leaky boat, thank for remindi... In-Reply-To: <2c8.4fa1b42.31442f68@aol.com> Message-ID: Rummy, Did you get rub rail from GB? At some point I need to do this. I know mine leaks when underwater. Wally >From: R22RumRunner@aol.com >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] intro form the guy with the leaky boat,thank >for remindi... >Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:49:28 EST > >Great introduction, now for the fix. The top deck and hull come together >beneath the rub rail. The fix is to remove the rubber part of the rub rail. >This >will expose either the plastic or aluminum (depending on year) base of the >rub rail. It is most likely pop riveted in place. Drill out the heads of >the >rivets and you will be able to remove the base. >You will notice the base piece has a lip which curls under the joint. Clean >the area of any old sealant and dirt and I would recommend a final cleaning >with a good solvent. Once the area is clean and dry, I would recommend >sealing >it with a one part polyurethane sealant like a product called NP1. It is >available at most roofing supply company's and Sherwin William stores have >their >own brand. If you can't find it, anything that is a one part polyurethane >will suffice. It is sticky like nothing else and remains pliable for >twelve >years in extreme weather conditions. Great for using on boats. >Instead of applying it to the seam with a trailing motion, you will apply >it >with the nozzle facing forward, forcing sealant into the joint. I found >cutting the tip off flat further down and then notching it with a V was an >easy >way to apply it. Place a small bead on the lip of the base and reinstall >with >pop rivets. You will find the old pop rivets inside the cabin for some time >to come. >Now for the real question. I am going to assume that you have actually >sailed the boat and buried the rail enough to force water in the hull in >this >manner. Rain water is not likely to enter the boat through this joint. If >it is, >then you have a problem with a completely different fix. >I hope this helps. If you need further assistance, please ask. > >Rrrrrrrrrrummy >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sun Mar 12 07:44:49 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 12 07:45:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] intro form the guy with the leaky boat, thank for remindi... Message-ID: <1ab.496dc005.314571c1@aol.com> Wally. Yep. Got it direct from the birthday boy. I took my truck with the ladder rack so I wouldn't have to coil it. Rrrrrrrrrrrummy From ekroposki at charter.net Sun Mar 12 06:03:53 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sun Mar 12 09:03:58 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Birthday Boy? In-Reply-To: <2db.40e8b38.3144dbf3@aol.com> References: <000f01c6450b$d67e5c40$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> <4412EC84.7C3BD090@squirrelhaven.com> <16923390.1142115746157.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net> <1de.4dc8e325.3144b06f@aol.com> <24304323.1142128016118.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <2db.40e8b38.3144dbf3@aol.com> Message-ID: <3364339.post@talk.nabble.com> Has anybody talked to the 'birthday boy' lately? About this flurry of email posts? Is his computer working? Or does his computer need therapy? Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/MOMENTOUS-OCCASION-t1264032.html#a3364339 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 12 06:06:04 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Sun Mar 12 09:06:07 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member Message-ID: <20060312140604.86106.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello, all Rhodes owners, I am seriously interested in becoming a Rhodes owner. I would like to know if there are any owners in the Chesapeake Bay area (including tributaries). Thank you. watermusic38@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From sanderico at earthlink.net Sun Mar 12 08:37:10 2006 From: sanderico at earthlink.net (Rik Sandberg) Date: Sun Mar 12 09:37:16 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] NASCAR In-Reply-To: <380-22006301241031846@M2W092.mail2web.com> References: <380-22006301241031846@M2W092.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <44143216.10707@earthlink.net> Slim, Yep, NASCAR is stock car racing, but the "stock" part has kinda gone out the window. And yep, they mostly turn left, except on a couple of road courses. I think NASCAR came into the big-time after Bill France must have attended a wrestling match and turned his mostly bootlegger, red-neck, grass-roots country boy racing league into the WWF (World Wacing Federation). I used to really like NASCAR 'til they made such a circus of it. 'Course most of those guys are getting rich now and that wasn't happening before. :) I guess a lot people like that stuff. Sandy and I went to Daytona once back in the 90s. It's a 2 1/2 mile track. The speeds are pretty awesome, but you really can't see the race. In fact it's hard to even keep track of what's going on unless you bring along a radio. Soon as the green flag drops the whole damned crowd stands up and they don't sit down again 'til there's a stoppage for an accident or something, so you mostly stand up on a perfectly good seat ....... all afternoon. Oh, and did I mention crowds?? I'd way rather watch a race on tv. For me a much better in person racing experience can be had going down to a local dirt track on a Friday or Saturday night and watching the local motorheads duke it out. I used to race sprint cars. Whole different kind of car then a NASCAR type stock car. Actually, on a 3/8 or 1/2 mile dirt track, a car like a NASCAR stock car, but set up for dirt, wouldn't stand a chance in a race against a sprint car. This is what a sprint car looks like. http://www.signsbyrik.net/rik/71%20cedar%20lake.jpg If you want to be really amazed sometime, go down to a local track when the sprint car racers are in town. Rik salm@mn.rr.com wrote: > OK, I'll bite. What exactly is NASCAR? Does it include Stock cars, > formula, Indy cars, funny cars, sprint cars (that's > what Rik races, right?) drag races, grand prix? > > Slim > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From bill at effros.com Sun Mar 12 09:43:31 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Sun Mar 12 09:43:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <20060312140604.86106.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060312140604.86106.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44143393.8020206@effros.com> Is watermusic38 your given name? Bill Effros L. Sailor wrote: > Hello, all Rhodes owners, > > I am seriously interested in becoming a Rhodes owner. > I would like to know if there are any owners in the > Chesapeake Bay area (including tributaries). > > Thank you. > watermusic38@yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Sun Mar 12 10:27:12 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Sun Mar 12 10:27:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0fc201c645e9$6fb07690$6401a8c0@mjm2> That goods, they were just "hot bits" :-) -mjm > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 12:23 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > You win. No way am I trying to figure that one out! > > On 3/12/06, Michel Meltzer wrote: > > > > A82DAD35D5D25E75F22D7FDB56E5046291C73A53375395A436A10175BA06831B > > D445DCCA3ABD06F65264879993098FE1F80BB917077DF3C0E9FF0E71DCE5217D > > 10B34E34C190D49D27216594060E8FE17E1CE62A8B0EADFE01212E2422D2A432 > > 5CD4DDBAC4DAFC05F5BDB342EAA4BAB007801752EE10FC09EEF4D27A40ABD8C3 > > 6161F56B70414C450C52396B28F1E3E8351D30714D3A8C8253D5A9DAD336D8E8 > > 82334453E6D045C7C0C4A6E6A29AA28E4994608AB78D07AE71D880EF466FBA04 > > E388121D012F4EF78BC0D85E3E8EDE427B0A5A1B9FF0FBCDAFDDC872CABC8AB6 > > C28E8B5BE3830F7F909B56906995908A4777DCB9864420109FEA2AB955EC3204 > > 8C15B94E8B2F5F762C6E65EB57E9B581C039A93ACFC02D850940C4BEA5094B3E > > 17E11BF456AD84CAFC4132E11478848A04C3DB8D7E13B77DF3EFF7A26ED6BA94 > > 24460534634DC3FEE82F5449975BF81E8CC9324251A967FA755F70C7F71C2562 > > 2F8A1B30A2F803217C1F31C7453120530CFFDE0B827D6E5093D8DDC906C7950F > > 0ECC30F0DB63F0CAE5EC09C1B69E00F36854AC206F628E2B9CEA3D6719627C28 > > A71C5BC284071BDDFFB5BFC0525F5A1AF8A31F585AAA5803068F08B71834CC5B > > 91BF9A7FB3871B043C9EF93F990D542913D103336EE7C29DE85AFBF0E2233D9F > > 30BEF2B7424FA99BA655A37493DAA2BC835FD4D993A3E11E2EE13D284592B68A > > > > ok, my writing has been reduced to entropy :-) > > > > -mjm > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank > > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:41 PM > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > > > > > Both of those were on my mid-term, substitution and one-time pad. > > > Hank > > > > > > > > > On 3/11/06, Michel Meltzer wrote: > > > > > > > > Ok, ok, ever->even fit->find, it a simply substitution code . I got > > > > taxes due on Wednesday. My next trick will be to use one time pad > > > > :-)-mjm > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > > > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:57 PM > > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > > > > > > > > > Okay, I'm currently taking a class on cryptography and actually > > doing > > > > my > > > > > Mid-term right now, but for the life of me I can't decrypt "I ever > > fit > > > > > doing > > > > > my taxes more interesting" > > > > > > > > > > Hank > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/11/06, Michel Meltzer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > If it makes you feel any better, I have no clue what you and > > hank > > > > > > talking about and I ever fit doing my taxes more interesting > > > > > > > > > > > > -mjm > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org > > [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > > > > > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of R22RumRunner@aol.com > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:51 PM > > > > > > > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lake Norman, NC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hank, > > > > > > > I thought this was a sailing site?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrrummy........... > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Sun Mar 12 07:33:41 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sun Mar 12 10:33:47 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <44143393.8020206@effros.com> References: <20060312140604.86106.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44143393.8020206@effros.com> Message-ID: <3365065.post@talk.nabble.com> Is that a mr or ms new member? As Bill has indicated, more details... some of us are more persnictity than others. However, the details help answer your questions. Little things mean a lot. Would you consider the Savannah River a tributary of the Chesapeake? Have you looked at the third party web site: http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 ??? Spill the Boston beans, tell us in detail, why are you here, what you already know, what your budget is, and all the rest of the pertinent details. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-member-t1267726.html#a3365065 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 12 14:34:05 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Sun Mar 12 17:34:08 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <3365065.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20060312223405.12296.qmail@web36406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ed. K. & all, It is Mrs. new member....altho' my Mr. recently passed away.... I had to sell our larger boat as it was too big for me to singlehand and the learning curve for all the systems was too steep.... I hope eventually (within two years) to have a Rhodes 22, which we had researched when we began sailing. My 'interval' boat is a rather decrepit (but sound) pocket cruiser, which a friend wants to give me just to get rid of it. (He'll keep another of his boats at my dock...so it's a trade!) As I work at a marina, I can have any work of consequence (read; safety) done very reasonably, and the other cosmetic and lifestyle stuff I can do. So my purpose in joining the group was to become better informed about the newer Rhodes 22's to see if this is really the boat for me, see what gear I will need (want!) when it comes time to bite the bullet...as I intend to sail far & wide when I get it....meet other owners and hopefully profit from their experiences. I am not sure what the budget is, as I am paying off the funeral and other expenses (anyone who has been there knows what a morass it is right now), help #2 daughter graduate from college, recover a bit from these past few months, and with luck, make a bit from the little boat I fix up....and after looking at the Rhodes website, I think in two years it will be doable. I would absolutely love to have a new Rhodes...and from what I have been able to gather, there are not many used ones out there...... In answer to your other question...No, I would not consider the Savannah a tributary.. ;^)...a bit far... I am on the VA side of the Potomac..... You asked for details....maybe too much information... L. Sailor --- Tootle wrote: > > Is that a mr or ms new member? As Bill has > indicated, more details... some > of us are more persnictity than others. However, > the details help answer > your questions. Little things mean a lot. > > Would you consider the Savannah River a tributary of > the Chesapeake? > > Have you looked at the third party web site: > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > ??? > > Spill the Boston beans, tell us in detail, why are > you here, what you > already know, what your budget is, and all the rest > of the pertinent > details. > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/New-member-t1267726.html#a3365065 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sun Mar 12 17:47:04 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 12 17:47:20 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Not enough information. Message-ID: <29f.6f81e94.3145fee8@aol.com> Nope sorry, not enough information. You will be black listed until you cough up a real name. Most of us on the list have been here for years and know each other well enough to use first names. Mines Rummy, what's yours? Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy From czerwonky at earthlink.net Sun Mar 12 18:05:02 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Sun Mar 12 18:05:05 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day Message-ID: <16775232.1142204702794.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy, That's what he told me. He also is quite down with shingles. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt -----Original Message----- >From: R22RumRunner@aol.com >Sent: Mar 11, 2006 9:05 PM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day > >Art, >There is no way that Sir Stanley is 80, 72 at the most. > >Rrrrrrrrrrrummy >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sun Mar 12 18:13:23 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 12 18:13:34 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Day Message-ID: <218.149346ab.31460513@aol.com> Art, I thought he was a boat builder, not a roofer? Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 12 15:28:06 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Sun Mar 12 18:28:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Not enough information. In-Reply-To: <29f.6f81e94.3145fee8@aol.com> Message-ID: <20060312232806.69761.qmail@web36402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> man,..youse guys are a tough bunch.....maybe later...mother always said "not on the first email".... ;^) --- R22RumRunner@aol.com wrote: > Nope sorry, not enough information. You will be > black listed until you cough > up a real name. Most of us on the list have been > here for years and know > each other well enough to use first names. Mines > Rummy, what's yours? > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From robert at squirrelhaven.com Sun Mar 12 19:48:37 2006 From: robert at squirrelhaven.com (Robert Skinner) Date: Sun Mar 12 19:49:41 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member References: <20060312223405.12296.qmail@web36406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4414C165.D0F24B30@squirrelhaven.com> Hello, L. Sailor! Now, y'all be kind to the old relic. Seriously, if you have been used to a larger boat, the Rhodes will suit you well. /Robert Skinner ------------------------------------------------------ "L. Sailor" wrote: > > Ed. K. & all, > > It is Mrs. new member....altho' my Mr. recently passed > away.... > > I had to sell our larger boat as it was too big for me > to singlehand and the learning curve for all the > systems was too steep.... I hope eventually (within > two years) to have a Rhodes 22, which we had > researched when we began sailing. My 'interval' boat > is a rather decrepit (but sound) pocket cruiser, which > a friend wants to give me just to get rid of it. > (He'll keep another of his boats at my dock...so it's > a trade!) As I work at a marina, I can have any work > of consequence (read; safety) done very reasonably, > and the other cosmetic and lifestyle stuff I can do. > > So my purpose in joining the group was to become > better informed about the newer Rhodes 22's to see if > this is really the boat for me, see what gear I will > need (want!) when it comes time to bite the > bullet...as I intend to sail far & wide when I get > it....meet other owners and hopefully profit from > their experiences. > > I am not sure what the budget is, as I am paying off > the funeral and other expenses (anyone who has been > there knows what a morass it is right now), help #2 > daughter graduate from college, recover a bit from > these past few months, and with luck, make a bit from > the little boat I fix up....and after looking at the > Rhodes website, I think in two years it will be > doable. I would absolutely love to have a new > Rhodes...and from what I have been able to gather, > there are not many used ones out there...... > > In answer to your other question...No, I would not > consider the Savannah a tributary.. ;^)...a bit far... > I am on the VA side of the Potomac..... > > You asked for details....maybe too much information... > > L. Sailor From salm at mn.rr.com Sun Mar 12 19:55:26 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (salm@mn.rr.com) Date: Sun Mar 12 19:55:40 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] NASCAR Message-ID: <380-22006311305526437@M2W146.mail2web.com> Rik, Hank, Rrrrrrrrrrrrrummy, Thanks for the overview. I watched some of the race today in Vegas with Jimmy Johnson's exciting finish. I better start paying attention if I'm gonna spend any time in Charlotte. Slim Original Message: ----------------- From: Rik Sandberg sanderico@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:37:10 -0600 To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] NASCAR Slim, Yep, NASCAR is stock car racing, but the "stock" part has kinda gone out the window. And yep, they mostly turn left, except on a couple of road courses. I think NASCAR came into the big-time after Bill France must have attended a wrestling match and turned his mostly bootlegger, red-neck, grass-roots country boy racing league into the WWF (World Wacing Federation). I used to really like NASCAR 'til they made such a circus of it. 'Course most of those guys are getting rich now and that wasn't happening before. :) I guess a lot people like that stuff. Sandy and I went to Daytona once back in the 90s. It's a 2 1/2 mile track. The speeds are pretty awesome, but you really can't see the race. In fact it's hard to even keep track of what's going on unless you bring along a radio. Soon as the green flag drops the whole damned crowd stands up and they don't sit down again 'til there's a stoppage for an accident or something, so you mostly stand up on a perfectly good seat ....... all afternoon. Oh, and did I mention crowds?? I'd way rather watch a race on tv. For me a much better in person racing experience can be had going down to a local dirt track on a Friday or Saturday night and watching the local motorheads duke it out. I used to race sprint cars. Whole different kind of car then a NASCAR type stock car. Actually, on a 3/8 or 1/2 mile dirt track, a car like a NASCAR stock car, but set up for dirt, wouldn't stand a chance in a race against a sprint car. This is what a sprint car looks like. http://www.signsbyrik.net/rik/71%20cedar%20lake.jpg If you want to be really amazed sometime, go down to a local track when the sprint car racers are in town. Rik salm@mn.rr.com wrote: > OK, I'll bite. What exactly is NASCAR? Does it include Stock cars, > formula, Indy cars, funny cars, sprint cars (that's > what Rik races, right?) drag races, grand prix? > > Slim > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From robert at squirrelhaven.com Sun Mar 12 19:55:28 2006 From: robert at squirrelhaven.com (Robert Skinner) Date: Sun Mar 12 19:56:32 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Not enough information. References: <29f.6f81e94.3145fee8@aol.com> Message-ID: <4414C300.803EF73@squirrelhaven.com> Rummy, et al. I'll vouch for L. Sailor. Please give her a bit of slack. /Robert Skinner Coordinates N43? 41.330', W70? 24.889' ------------------------------------------------------------------ R22RumRunner@aol.com wrote: > Nope sorry, not enough information. You will be black listed until you cough > up a real name. Most of us on the list have been here for years and know > each other well enough to use first names. Mines Rummy, what's yours? > Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 12 16:59:24 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Sun Mar 12 19:59:27 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Not enough information. In-Reply-To: <4414C300.803EF73@squirrelhaven.com> Message-ID: <20060313005924.89863.qmail@web36409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, Robert, Nice to see you on the Rhodes site. Thanks for the support. L. --- Robert Skinner wrote: > Rummy, et al. > > I'll vouch for L. Sailor. Please give her a bit of > slack. > > /Robert Skinner Coordinates N43? 41.330', > W70? 24.889' > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > R22RumRunner@aol.com wrote: > > Nope sorry, not enough information. You will be > black listed until you cough > > up a real name. Most of us on the list have been > here for years and know > > each other well enough to use first names. Mines > Rummy, what's yours? > > Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 12 17:20:51 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Sun Mar 12 20:20:54 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <4414C165.D0F24B30@squirrelhaven.com> Message-ID: <20060313012051.36458.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The OLD relic? Moi? Gee, thanks, Robert..... L. --- Robert Skinner wrote: > Hello, L. Sailor! > > Now, y'all be kind to the old relic. Seriously, if > you have been used to a larger boat, the Rhodes will > suit you well. > > /Robert Skinner > ------------------------------------------------------ > "L. Sailor" wrote: > > > > Ed. K. & all, > > > > It is Mrs. new member....altho' my Mr. recently > passed > > away.... > > > > I had to sell our larger boat as it was too big > for me > > to singlehand and the learning curve for all the > > systems was too steep.... I hope eventually > (within > > two years) to have a Rhodes 22, which we had > > researched when we began sailing. My 'interval' > boat > > is a rather decrepit (but sound) pocket cruiser, > which > > a friend wants to give me just to get rid of it. > > (He'll keep another of his boats at my dock...so > it's > > a trade!) As I work at a marina, I can have any > work > > of consequence (read; safety) done very > reasonably, > > and the other cosmetic and lifestyle stuff I can > do. > > > > So my purpose in joining the group was to become > > better informed about the newer Rhodes 22's to see > if > > this is really the boat for me, see what gear I > will > > need (want!) when it comes time to bite the > > bullet...as I intend to sail far & wide when I get > > it....meet other owners and hopefully profit from > > their experiences. > > > > I am not sure what the budget is, as I am paying > off > > the funeral and other expenses (anyone who has > been > > there knows what a morass it is right now), help > #2 > > daughter graduate from college, recover a bit from > > these past few months, and with luck, make a bit > from > > the little boat I fix up....and after looking at > the > > Rhodes website, I think in two years it will be > > doable. I would absolutely love to have a new > > Rhodes...and from what I have been able to gather, > > there are not many used ones out there...... > > > > In answer to your other question...No, I would not > > consider the Savannah a tributary.. ;^)...a bit > far... > > I am on the VA side of the Potomac..... > > > > You asked for details....maybe too much > information... > > > > L. Sailor > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ekroposki at charter.net Sun Mar 12 18:06:49 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sun Mar 12 21:06:55 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <20060313012051.36458.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060312140604.86106.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44143393.8020206@effros.com> <3365065.post@talk.nabble.com> <20060312223405.12296.qmail@web36406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4414C165.D0F24B30@squirrelhaven.com> <20060313012051.36458.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3371251.post@talk.nabble.com> Rummy, Now I get the signature, it stands for leaky sailor. Can you imagine waiting for two years to get a Rhodes 22? Has anyone told her that it is taking Stan two years to build one? As for used Rhodes 22's they come on the market once in a while, however, if they are in reasonable shape they do not stay on the market long, just ask Todd. The ocean is full of sharks. Does she understand the builder of the Rhodes 22 just had his 80th birthday Saturday. Shingles is a recurring viral infection that once you get them then for no apparent reason they can recur. Usually painful and putting one in bed for a week... Ed K Greenville, SC, USA Addendum: ?Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.? Thomas Alva Edison -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-member-t1267726.html#a3371251 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sun Mar 12 21:11:29 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 12 21:11:39 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Not enough information. Message-ID: <2e1.3e3a28b.31462ed1@aol.com> Nope, no slack until we get a real name. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy From czerwonky at earthlink.net Sun Mar 12 21:31:09 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Sun Mar 12 21:31:27 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy Message-ID: <4927384.1142217070287.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> L, Seconded. No better boat for light cruising, very forgiving, can be very fast and fun, and can be a mite expensive. Truly a case of 'you get what you pay for. Think of this - a boat manufacturer who will upgrade entirely to your wishes, with good advise on what would fit your wants the best, with foreknowledge of the budget limitations. You don't find manufacturers doing this anymore, expecially directly with the customer. So you want an in-furling Main this year, and a furling Genny next? I'd suggest the opposite order, actually. Make a menu, bounce it around the list a little, visit Stan just down the road in Edenton and see it - you have the time now more than ever. No one is in a hurry, except maybe you, because everyone on the list wants you to be a happy camper like them. Speaking of camping, many, many on the list camp on their boats. I can't say enough nice things about this boat, L. Have a nice w and call S sometime, although he is under the weather with s. BTW, E and R will trrrrry to lure you to a place called H. Be carrreful of them cause they are a couple of slick b's. We'll watch closely for your progress with the R. R, A -----Original Message----- >From: Robert Skinner >Sent: Mar 12, 2006 7:48 PM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member > >Hello, L. Sailor! > >Now, y'all be kind to the old relic. Seriously, if >you have been used to a larger boat, the Rhodes will >suit you well. > >/Robert Skinner >------------------------------------------------------ >"L. Sailor" wrote: >> >> Ed. K. & all, >> >> It is Mrs. new member....altho' my Mr. recently passed >> away.... >> >> I had to sell our larger boat as it was too big for me >> to singlehand and the learning curve for all the >> systems was too steep.... I hope eventually (within >> two years) to have a Rhodes 22, which we had >> researched when we began sailing. My 'interval' boat >> is a rather decrepit (but sound) pocket cruiser, which >> a friend wants to give me just to get rid of it. >> (He'll keep another of his boats at my dock...so it's >> a trade!) As I work at a marina, I can have any work >> of consequence (read; safety) done very reasonably, >> and the other cosmetic and lifestyle stuff I can do. >> >> So my purpose in joining the group was to become >> better informed about the newer Rhodes 22's to see if >> this is really the boat for me, see what gear I will >> need (want!) when it comes time to bite the >> bullet...as I intend to sail far & wide when I get >> it....meet other owners and hopefully profit from >> their experiences. >> >> I am not sure what the budget is, as I am paying off >> the funeral and other expenses (anyone who has been >> there knows what a morass it is right now), help #2 >> daughter graduate from college, recover a bit from >> these past few months, and with luck, make a bit from >> the little boat I fix up....and after looking at the >> Rhodes website, I think in two years it will be >> doable. I would absolutely love to have a new >> Rhodes...and from what I have been able to gather, >> there are not many used ones out there...... >> >> In answer to your other question...No, I would not >> consider the Savannah a tributary.. ;^)...a bit far... >> I am on the VA side of the Potomac..... >> >> You asked for details....maybe too much information... >> >> L. Sailor >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list -------------- next part -------------- Name: DSC00499.JPG Type: image/pjpeg Size: 1884660 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/12/DSC00499.bin From czerwonky at earthlink.net Sun Mar 12 21:32:30 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Sun Mar 12 21:32:34 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member Message-ID: <19225721.1142217150868.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ed, How do you get shingles? Art -----Original Message----- >From: Tootle >Sent: Mar 12, 2006 9:06 PM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > >Rummy, > Now I get the signature, it stands for leaky sailor. Can you imagine >waiting for two years to get a Rhodes 22? Has anyone told her that it is >taking Stan two years to build one? As for used Rhodes 22's they come on >the market once in a while, however, if they are in reasonable shape they do >not stay on the market long, just ask Todd. The ocean is full of sharks. >Does she understand the builder of the Rhodes 22 just had his 80th birthday >Saturday. Shingles is a recurring viral infection that once you get them >then for no apparent reason they can recur. Usually painful and putting one >in bed for a week... > >Ed K >Greenville, SC, USA >Addendum: ?Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in >overalls and looks like work.? Thomas Alva Edison >-- >View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-member-t1267726.html#a3371251 >Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Sun Mar 12 18:51:09 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sun Mar 12 21:51:15 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <19225721.1142217150868.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <20060312140604.86106.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44143393.8020206@effros.com> <3365065.post@talk.nabble.com> <20060312223405.12296.qmail@web36406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4414C165.D0F24B30@squirrelhaven.com> <20060313012051.36458.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <19225721.1142217150868.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3371557.post@talk.nabble.com> Art, Rummy told you once already, at the roofing supply place... ~~~_/)~~~ or try searching the WEB, you might start here: http://familydoctor.org/574.xml Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-member-t1267726.html#a3371557 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From robert at squirrelhaven.com Sun Mar 12 22:16:48 2006 From: robert at squirrelhaven.com (Robert Skinner) Date: Sun Mar 12 22:17:56 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member References: <20060313012051.36458.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4414E420.1ECB955B@squirrelhaven.com> Pas vous. C'est the P19 que je parle. /Robert "L. Sailor" wrote: > > The OLD relic? Moi? > > Gee, thanks, Robert..... > L. From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 12 19:28:27 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Sun Mar 12 22:28:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <4414E420.1ECB955B@squirrelhaven.com> Message-ID: <20060313032827.56865.qmail@web36410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> AH! Cos? tanto il migliore! L. --- Robert Skinner wrote: > Pas vous. C'est the P19 que je parle. > /Robert > > "L. Sailor" wrote: > > > > The OLD relic? Moi? > > > > Gee, thanks, Robert..... > > L. > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 12 19:35:11 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Sun Mar 12 22:35:14 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <3371251.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20060313033511.51433.qmail@web36403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Excuse me, but I don't understand the attitude. I would like to place an order for a Rhodes tomorrow if it were possible...however, I have other financial responsibilities which will take me about two years to deal with. I am an experienced sailor who 1) doesn't particularly need this site to get the information I need, and 2)will give my name when I am good and ready, if ever. Lose the sarcasm, folks. BTW...if you'd like to know what I understand, why not ask? L. --- Tootle wrote: > > Rummy, > Now I get the signature, it stands for leaky > sailor. Can you imagine > waiting for two years to get a Rhodes 22? Has > anyone told her that it is > taking Stan two years to build one? As for used > Rhodes 22's they come on > the market once in a while, however, if they are in > reasonable shape they do > not stay on the market long, just ask Todd. The > ocean is full of sharks. > Does she understand the builder of the Rhodes 22 > just had his 80th birthday > Saturday. Shingles is a recurring viral infection > that once you get them > then for no apparent reason they can recur. Usually > painful and putting one > in bed for a week... > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > Addendum: ???Opportunity is missed by most people > because it is dressed in > overalls and looks like work.??? Thomas Alva > Edison > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/New-member-t1267726.html#a3371251 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 12 19:53:12 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Sun Mar 12 22:53:18 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: <4927384.1142217070287.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20060313035312.93357.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey, A, Thanks for the info. I certainly agree with you about the builder after reading the entire General Boats site last night....and the board seems to regard him with true affection. To clarify: the $$ is not an issue as far as the quality of the boat is concerned; just right now it is not possible. As we had a 34' cruiser with some amenities, the Rhodes appears to have the quality, seaworthyness, and amenities in a boat that I can handle by myself..... I have already made plans to go to Edenton within the next two weeks to see for myself.... L. --- "Arthur H. Czerwonky" wrote: > L, > > Seconded. No better boat for light cruising, very > forgiving, can be very fast and fun, and can be a > mite expensive. Truly a case of 'you get what you > pay for. Think of this - a boat manufacturer who > will upgrade entirely to your wishes, with good > advise on what would fit your wants the best, with > foreknowledge of the budget limitations. You don't > find manufacturers doing this anymore, expecially > directly with the customer. > > So you want an in-furling Main this year, and a > furling Genny next? I'd suggest the opposite order, > actually. Make a menu, bounce it around the list a > little, visit Stan just down the road in Edenton and > see it - you have the time now more than ever. > > No one is in a hurry, except maybe you, because > everyone on the list wants you to be a happy camper > like them. Speaking of camping, many, many on the > list camp on their boats. > > I can't say enough nice things about this boat, L. > > Have a nice w and call S sometime, although he is > under the weather with s. BTW, E and R will trrrrry > to lure you to a place called H. Be carrreful of > them cause they are a couple of slick b's. We'll > watch closely for your progress with the R. > > R, > > A > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Robert Skinner > >Sent: Mar 12, 2006 7:48 PM > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > > >Hello, L. Sailor! > > > >Now, y'all be kind to the old relic. Seriously, if > >you have been used to a larger boat, the Rhodes > will > >suit you well. > > > >/Robert Skinner > >------------------------------------------------------ > >"L. Sailor" wrote: > >> > >> Ed. K. & all, > >> > >> It is Mrs. new member....altho' my Mr. recently > passed > >> away.... > >> > >> I had to sell our larger boat as it was too big > for me > >> to singlehand and the learning curve for all the > >> systems was too steep.... I hope eventually > (within > >> two years) to have a Rhodes 22, which we had > >> researched when we began sailing. My 'interval' > boat > >> is a rather decrepit (but sound) pocket cruiser, > which > >> a friend wants to give me just to get rid of it. > >> (He'll keep another of his boats at my dock...so > it's > >> a trade!) As I work at a marina, I can have any > work > >> of consequence (read; safety) done very > reasonably, > >> and the other cosmetic and lifestyle stuff I can > do. > >> > >> So my purpose in joining the group was to become > >> better informed about the newer Rhodes 22's to > see if > >> this is really the boat for me, see what gear I > will > >> need (want!) when it comes time to bite the > >> bullet...as I intend to sail far & wide when I > get > >> it....meet other owners and hopefully profit from > >> their experiences. > >> > >> I am not sure what the budget is, as I am paying > off > >> the funeral and other expenses (anyone who has > been > >> there knows what a morass it is right now), help > #2 > >> daughter graduate from college, recover a bit > from > >> these past few months, and with luck, make a bit > from > >> the little boat I fix up....and after looking at > the > >> Rhodes website, I think in two years it will be > >> doable. I would absolutely love to have a new > >> Rhodes...and from what I have been able to > gather, > >> there are not many used ones out there...... > >> > >> In answer to your other question...No, I would > not > >> consider the Savannah a tributary.. ;^)...a bit > far... > >> I am on the VA side of the Potomac..... > >> > >> You asked for details....maybe too much > information... > >> > >> L. Sailor > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > > Name: DSC00499.JPG Type: image/pjpeg Size: 1884660 > bytes Desc: not available > Url: > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/12/DSC00499.bin > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Sun Mar 12 23:43:40 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Sun Mar 12 23:43:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: <20060313035312.93357.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003001c64658$b35c8810$6401a8c0@mjm2> For what it worth. Remember the list is like a people hanging out at the bar, drinking and talking for the last 10 years. So there is a collective memory of the people who have come before you. So some insight. We are a small boat with a low entry point, so at times people jump on the list who are new to the sport, think sailing is cool, is a sport that they can do alone, and that good for them because they anti social, kind of strange, generally paranoid. Now you mention that you are in the marine business I sure you seen the type. I going to take you at your word that you are a sailor, and I assuming you are a nice person, and I betting that you have the ability for self refection (otherwise I just wasted my time with this email) The nominal course of event is a new member introduces themselves, and people do the "welcome aboard name", but with out that(and first would have been fine) you just managed to come off paranoid, it that what you wanted? The people love to take about their boats, but in the last few months do you want to guess how many people got on here kinda passing thought(i.e. I buy a boat in a few years), generally they drop off in a few weeks, I sure that not you but " collective memory" thing again, it no fun being rejected. The experience thing, did you notice no one is paying "I have more experience than you game", it is a little tacky, you would have been better off telling a nice sailing story that show the experience instead of the 2x4 across the head approach. Remember most of the member of the list are boat owners. The players, you do not know them let, you both over reacting and under reacting. I subject you find a name, come off as a reasonable sailor, an someone people want to be around, get to know group and be an active member. But at this point, you have gotten off to a bad start, an are like a airplane in a drive, you know it going to crash. I your case you are going to delist in days within a statement pretty close "how dare these people" when all that happened is that you never pulled out of drive. > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of L. Sailor > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:53 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy > > Hey, A, > > Thanks for the info. I certainly agree with you about > the builder after reading the entire General Boats > site last night....and the board seems to regard him > with true affection. > > To clarify: the $$ is not an issue as far as the > quality of the boat is concerned; just right now it is > not possible. As we had a 34' cruiser with some > amenities, the Rhodes appears to have the quality, > seaworthyness, and amenities in a boat that I can > handle by myself..... > > I have already made plans to go to Edenton within the > next two weeks to see for myself.... > > L. > > --- "Arthur H. Czerwonky" > wrote: > > > L, > > > > Seconded. No better boat for light cruising, very > > forgiving, can be very fast and fun, and can be a > > mite expensive. Truly a case of 'you get what you > > pay for. Think of this - a boat manufacturer who > > will upgrade entirely to your wishes, with good > > advise on what would fit your wants the best, with > > foreknowledge of the budget limitations. You don't > > find manufacturers doing this anymore, expecially > > directly with the customer. > > > > So you want an in-furling Main this year, and a > > furling Genny next? I'd suggest the opposite order, > > actually. Make a menu, bounce it around the list a > > little, visit Stan just down the road in Edenton and > > see it - you have the time now more than ever. > > > > No one is in a hurry, except maybe you, because > > everyone on the list wants you to be a happy camper > > like them. Speaking of camping, many, many on the > > list camp on their boats. > > > > I can't say enough nice things about this boat, L. > > > > Have a nice w and call S sometime, although he is > > under the weather with s. BTW, E and R will trrrrry > > to lure you to a place called H. Be carrreful of > > them cause they are a couple of slick b's. We'll > > watch closely for your progress with the R. > > > > R, > > > > A > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: Robert Skinner > > >Sent: Mar 12, 2006 7:48 PM > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > > > > >Hello, L. Sailor! > > > > > >Now, y'all be kind to the old relic. Seriously, if > > >you have been used to a larger boat, the Rhodes > > will > > >suit you well. > > > > > >/Robert Skinner > > > >------------------------------------------------------ > > >"L. Sailor" wrote: > > >> > > >> Ed. K. & all, > > >> > > >> It is Mrs. new member....altho' my Mr. recently > > passed > > >> away.... > > >> > > >> I had to sell our larger boat as it was too big > > for me > > >> to singlehand and the learning curve for all the > > >> systems was too steep.... I hope eventually > > (within > > >> two years) to have a Rhodes 22, which we had > > >> researched when we began sailing. My 'interval' > > boat > > >> is a rather decrepit (but sound) pocket cruiser, > > which > > >> a friend wants to give me just to get rid of it. > > >> (He'll keep another of his boats at my dock...so > > it's > > >> a trade!) As I work at a marina, I can have any > > work > > >> of consequence (read; safety) done very > > reasonably, > > >> and the other cosmetic and lifestyle stuff I can > > do. > > >> > > >> So my purpose in joining the group was to become > > >> better informed about the newer Rhodes 22's to > > see if > > >> this is really the boat for me, see what gear I > > will > > >> need (want!) when it comes time to bite the > > >> bullet...as I intend to sail far & wide when I > > get > > >> it....meet other owners and hopefully profit from > > >> their experiences. > > >> > > >> I am not sure what the budget is, as I am paying > > off > > >> the funeral and other expenses (anyone who has > > been > > >> there knows what a morass it is right now), help > > #2 > > >> daughter graduate from college, recover a bit > > from > > >> these past few months, and with luck, make a bit > > from > > >> the little boat I fix up....and after looking at > > the > > >> Rhodes website, I think in two years it will be > > >> doable. I would absolutely love to have a new > > >> Rhodes...and from what I have been able to > > gather, > > >> there are not many used ones out there...... > > >> > > >> In answer to your other question...No, I would > > not > > >> consider the Savannah a tributary.. ;^)...a bit > > far... > > >> I am on the VA side of the Potomac..... > > >> > > >> You asked for details....maybe too much > > information... > > >> > > >> L. Sailor > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > Name: DSC00499.JPG Type: image/pjpeg Size: 1884660 > > bytes Desc: not available > > Url: > > > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22- > list/attch/200603/12/DSC00499.bin > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From napoli68 at charter.net Sun Mar 12 21:50:34 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon Mar 13 00:30:13 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 owner in Puget Sound ? References: <009c01c637ff$6f734010$5cfc1618@main> Message-ID: <002f01c64662$0c9b9520$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Dear Dennis, Sorry for the delay in responding, my hard drive packed up and I've been too busy to get it fixed. Here is the best people to talk to: This is a quote from an email they sent me a year or two ago: "We have a Rhodes 22 at Orcas Island Washington. We used to live in Sacramento, California but moved up here about 2 years ago. Julia Turney and Jay Lucas" Chris Geankoplis S/V Enosis Medford OR luketurn@orcasonline.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Gregoire" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:29 PM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 owner in Puget Sound ? To any rhodes owner. I live in puget sound, Washington State. and am looking for a Rhodes 22 owner who can give me some info on the boat and how it performs in Puget Sound. Thanks. Dennis Gregoire Whidbey Island, Wa __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From napoli68 at charter.net Sun Mar 12 22:17:24 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon Mar 13 00:57:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip Message-ID: <00fd01c64665$cc211840$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Bill, I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. Your Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to Bimini then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and south again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands including Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. Chris Geankoplis S/V Enosis Medford, OR From sprocket80 at mail.com Mon Mar 13 01:40:56 2006 From: sprocket80 at mail.com (Todd Tavares) Date: Mon Mar 13 01:39:51 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Not enough information. Message-ID: <20060313064056.D18571F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> It's a walk on the plank for these new listers.... with their secrets and questions and all.........AAARRRRRRRRGGGH!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. Sailor" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Not enough information. Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:28:06 -0800 (PST) man,..youse guys are a tough bunch.....maybe later...mother always said "not on the first email".... ;^) --- R22RumRunner@aol.com wrote: > Nope sorry, not enough information. You will be > black listed until you cough up a real name. Most of us on the > list have been > here for years and know each other well enough to use first names. Mines > Rummy, what's yours? > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > ____________________________ ______________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ -------------- next part -------------- Name: Arrrgh.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 33050 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/13/Arrrgh.jpg From napoli68 at charter.net Sun Mar 12 23:17:34 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon Mar 13 01:57:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy References: <20060313035312.93357.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <033501c6466e$35a524c0$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Cara L,. Finalmente abbiamo un' paisana propria sulla lista. And don't worry about the name, most of these guys and gals use weird nome de plumes anyway. C(hris) G M(edford) OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. Sailor" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy > Hey, A, > > Thanks for the info. I certainly agree with you about > the builder after reading the entire General Boats > site last night....and the board seems to regard him > with true affection. > > To clarify: the $$ is not an issue as far as the > quality of the boat is concerned; just right now it is > not possible. As we had a 34' cruiser with some > amenities, the Rhodes appears to have the quality, > seaworthyness, and amenities in a boat that I can > handle by myself..... > > I have already made plans to go to Edenton within the > next two weeks to see for myself.... > > L. > > --- "Arthur H. Czerwonky" > wrote: > > > L, > > > > Seconded. No better boat for light cruising, very > > forgiving, can be very fast and fun, and can be a > > mite expensive. Truly a case of 'you get what you > > pay for. Think of this - a boat manufacturer who > > will upgrade entirely to your wishes, with good > > advise on what would fit your wants the best, with > > foreknowledge of the budget limitations. You don't > > find manufacturers doing this anymore, expecially > > directly with the customer. > > > > So you want an in-furling Main this year, and a > > furling Genny next? I'd suggest the opposite order, > > actually. Make a menu, bounce it around the list a > > little, visit Stan just down the road in Edenton and > > see it - you have the time now more than ever. > > > > No one is in a hurry, except maybe you, because > > everyone on the list wants you to be a happy camper > > like them. Speaking of camping, many, many on the > > list camp on their boats. > > > > I can't say enough nice things about this boat, L. > > > > Have a nice w and call S sometime, although he is > > under the weather with s. BTW, E and R will trrrrry > > to lure you to a place called H. Be carrreful of > > them cause they are a couple of slick b's. We'll > > watch closely for your progress with the R. > > > > R, > > > > A > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: Robert Skinner > > >Sent: Mar 12, 2006 7:48 PM > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > > > > >Hello, L. Sailor! > > > > > >Now, y'all be kind to the old relic. Seriously, if > > >you have been used to a larger boat, the Rhodes > > will > > >suit you well. > > > > > >/Robert Skinner > > > >------------------------------------------------------ > > >"L. Sailor" wrote: > > >> > > >> Ed. K. & all, > > >> > > >> It is Mrs. new member....altho' my Mr. recently > > passed > > >> away.... > > >> > > >> I had to sell our larger boat as it was too big > > for me > > >> to singlehand and the learning curve for all the > > >> systems was too steep.... I hope eventually > > (within > > >> two years) to have a Rhodes 22, which we had > > >> researched when we began sailing. My 'interval' > > boat > > >> is a rather decrepit (but sound) pocket cruiser, > > which > > >> a friend wants to give me just to get rid of it. > > >> (He'll keep another of his boats at my dock...so > > it's > > >> a trade!) As I work at a marina, I can have any > > work > > >> of consequence (read; safety) done very > > reasonably, > > >> and the other cosmetic and lifestyle stuff I can > > do. > > >> > > >> So my purpose in joining the group was to become > > >> better informed about the newer Rhodes 22's to > > see if > > >> this is really the boat for me, see what gear I > > will > > >> need (want!) when it comes time to bite the > > >> bullet...as I intend to sail far & wide when I > > get > > >> it....meet other owners and hopefully profit from > > >> their experiences. > > >> > > >> I am not sure what the budget is, as I am paying > > off > > >> the funeral and other expenses (anyone who has > > been > > >> there knows what a morass it is right now), help > > #2 > > >> daughter graduate from college, recover a bit > > from > > >> these past few months, and with luck, make a bit > > from > > >> the little boat I fix up....and after looking at > > the > > >> Rhodes website, I think in two years it will be > > >> doable. I would absolutely love to have a new > > >> Rhodes...and from what I have been able to > > gather, > > >> there are not many used ones out there...... > > >> > > >> In answer to your other question...No, I would > > not > > >> consider the Savannah a tributary.. ;^)...a bit > > far... > > >> I am on the VA side of the Potomac..... > > >> > > >> You asked for details....maybe too much > > information... > > >> > > >> L. Sailor > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > Name: DSC00499.JPG Type: image/pjpeg Size: 1884660 > > bytes Desc: not available > > Url: > > > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/12/DSC00499.bin > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From salm at mn.rr.com Mon Mar 13 04:56:02 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (salm@mn.rr.com) Date: Mon Mar 13 04:56:08 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member Message-ID: <380-2200631139562412@M2W079.mail2web.com> Dear L., You say you don't understand the attitude so let me help you understand. First, if you think we're going to lose the sarcasm, you're in the wrong place, dear. And you say you don't need this site... Guess what? That goes both ways for sure. You might not need this but it IS the definitive place for R22 info and lots of other fun and interesting stuff too. We'd be more than happy to take you into our fold--and you seem like the intelligent, live-wire type that we'd like to have onboard-- but you're going to have to play it our way. We like to know a liitle more about you so we can tease, badger, cajole at will, so you might as well get over yourself. This is as much a social group as it is a sailing forum. Would you walk into a house party and refuse to give your name for Pete's sake? Slim Yes, it's a nickname but most everyone here knows why I use it and they all know my real name too. Original Message: ----------------- From: L. Sailor watermusic38@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:35:11 -0800 (PST) To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member Excuse me, but I don't understand the attitude. I would like to place an order for a Rhodes tomorrow if it were possible...however, I have other financial responsibilities which will take me about two years to deal with. I am an experienced sailor who 1) doesn't particularly need this site to get the information I need, and 2)will give my name when I am good and ready, if ever. Lose the sarcasm, folks. BTW...if you'd like to know what I understand, why not ask? L. --- Tootle wrote: > > Rummy, > Now I get the signature, it stands for leaky > sailor. Can you imagine > waiting for two years to get a Rhodes 22? Has > anyone told her that it is > taking Stan two years to build one? As for used > Rhodes 22's they come on > the market once in a while, however, if they are in > reasonable shape they do > not stay on the market long, just ask Todd. The > ocean is full of sharks. > Does she understand the builder of the Rhodes 22 > just had his 80th birthday > Saturday. Shingles is a recurring viral infection > that once you get them > then for no apparent reason they can recur. Usually > painful and putting one > in bed for a week... > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > Addendum: ???Opportunity is missed by most people > because it is dressed in > overalls and looks like work.??? Thomas Alva > Edison > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/New-member-t1267726.html#a3371251 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From R22RumRunner at aol.com Mon Mar 13 06:57:11 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 13 06:57:21 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member Message-ID: <22f.8075202.3146b817@aol.com> Art, The shingles are a ticking time bomb that rests in your body from child hood. It comes from having had the chicken pox in your youth. Rrrrrrrrrrummy From tnrhodey at hotmail.com Mon Mar 13 07:30:16 2006 From: tnrhodey at hotmail.com (TN Rhodey) Date: Mon Mar 13 07:30:26 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <20060312223405.12296.qmail@web36406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Welcome L Sailor! We really are a harmless bunch. What pocket cruiser are you being given? Keeping close to this list is a good way to keep an eye out for a used R22. Fair Winds! Wally, Knoxville TN >From: "L. Sailor" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member >Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:34:05 -0800 (PST) > >Ed. K. & all, > >It is Mrs. new member....altho' my Mr. recently passed >away.... > >I had to sell our larger boat as it was too big for me >to singlehand and the learning curve for all the >systems was too steep.... I hope eventually (within >two years) to have a Rhodes 22, which we had >researched when we began sailing. My 'interval' boat >is a rather decrepit (but sound) pocket cruiser, which >a friend wants to give me just to get rid of it. >(He'll keep another of his boats at my dock...so it's >a trade!) As I work at a marina, I can have any work >of consequence (read; safety) done very reasonably, >and the other cosmetic and lifestyle stuff I can do. > >So my purpose in joining the group was to become >better informed about the newer Rhodes 22's to see if >this is really the boat for me, see what gear I will >need (want!) when it comes time to bite the >bullet...as I intend to sail far & wide when I get >it....meet other owners and hopefully profit from >their experiences. > >I am not sure what the budget is, as I am paying off >the funeral and other expenses (anyone who has been >there knows what a morass it is right now), help #2 >daughter graduate from college, recover a bit from >these past few months, and with luck, make a bit from >the little boat I fix up....and after looking at the >Rhodes website, I think in two years it will be >doable. I would absolutely love to have a new >Rhodes...and from what I have been able to gather, >there are not many used ones out there...... > >In answer to your other question...No, I would not >consider the Savannah a tributary.. ;^)...a bit far... >I am on the VA side of the Potomac..... > >You asked for details....maybe too much information... > >L. Sailor > >--- Tootle wrote: > > > > > Is that a mr or ms new member? As Bill has > > indicated, more details... some > > of us are more persnictity than others. However, > > the details help answer > > your questions. Little things mean a lot. > > > > Would you consider the Savannah River a tributary of > > the Chesapeake? > > > > Have you looked at the third party web site: > > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > > ??? > > > > Spill the Boston beans, tell us in detail, why are > > you here, what you > > already know, what your budget is, and all the rest > > of the pertinent > > details. > > > > Ed K > > Greenville, SC, USA > > -- > > View this message in context: > > >http://www.nabble.com/New-member-t1267726.html#a3365065 > > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Mon Mar 13 07:41:57 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Mon Mar 13 07:42:04 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip Message-ID: <18995193.1142253717224.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Chris, That sounds nice. I have heard of so many crossing the stream that get roughed up when their boat did not perform well. Did you encounter much wave action, and how did the boat handle? Cheers, Art -----Original Message----- >From: Chris Geankoplis >Sent: Mar 13, 2006 1:17 AM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > >Bill, > I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. Your Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to Bimini then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and south again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands including Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. > >Chris Geankoplis >S/V Enosis >Medford, OR >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From tnrhodey at hotmail.com Mon Mar 13 07:48:27 2006 From: tnrhodey at hotmail.com (TN Rhodey) Date: Mon Mar 13 07:48:38 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] NASCAR In-Reply-To: <44143216.10707@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Slim & Rik, I have lived in the South since 1972 and have never been a NASCAR fan but I have attended a couple of races. Bristol TN has a short track so you can see most of the race. You are packed in with 150,000 screaming fans. They have a night race so the fans have all day to drink in the parking lot. We sat in an area known as the "Chicken Bone" section. In the old days the fans would eat fried chicken and thow bones at the drivers. The parling lot has areas for camping and folks start showing up days in advance to get primed. NFL and UT tailgating is pretty tame compared to the NASCAR crowd. I wore ear plugs pretty much the whole race; conversation is impossible. We were almost to close to the action. I went to a race in NC once and we sat in a sky box. A little bit different atmosphere. Rik, Atomic Speedway is right off I40 just west of Knoxville. It is a short dirt track; just your style! http://www.atomicmotorspeedway.com/ Wally >From: Rik Sandberg >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] NASCAR >Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 08:37:10 -0600 > >Slim, > >Yep, NASCAR is stock car racing, but the "stock" part has kinda gone out >the window. And yep, they mostly turn left, except on a couple of road >courses. I think NASCAR came into the big-time after Bill France must have >attended a wrestling match and turned his mostly bootlegger, red-neck, >grass-roots country boy racing league into the WWF (World Wacing >Federation). I used to really like NASCAR 'til they made such a circus of >it. 'Course most of those guys are getting rich now and that wasn't >happening before. :) I guess a lot people like that stuff. > >Sandy and I went to Daytona once back in the 90s. It's a 2 1/2 mile track. >The speeds are pretty awesome, but you really can't see the race. In fact >it's hard to even keep track of what's going on unless you bring along a >radio. Soon as the green flag drops the whole damned crowd stands up and >they don't sit down again 'til there's a stoppage for an accident or >something, so you mostly stand up on a perfectly good seat ....... all >afternoon. Oh, and did I mention crowds?? I'd way rather watch a race on >tv. > >For me a much better in person racing experience can be had going down to a >local dirt track on a Friday or Saturday night and watching the local >motorheads duke it out. > >I used to race sprint cars. Whole different kind of car then a NASCAR type >stock car. Actually, on a 3/8 or 1/2 mile dirt track, a car like a NASCAR >stock car, but set up for dirt, wouldn't stand a chance in a race against a >sprint car. This is what a sprint car looks like. > >http://www.signsbyrik.net/rik/71%20cedar%20lake.jpg > >If you want to be really amazed sometime, go down to a local track when the >sprint car racers are in town. > >Rik > >salm@mn.rr.com wrote: >>OK, I'll bite. What exactly is NASCAR? Does it include Stock cars, >>formula, Indy cars, funny cars, sprint cars (that's what Rik races, >>right?) drag races, grand prix? >> >>Slim >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------- >>mail2web - Check your email from the web at >>http://mail2web.com/ . >> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Mon Mar 13 08:43:35 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (ed kroposki) Date: Mon Mar 13 08:44:49 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sunday, March 12, 2006 Message-ID: <000801c646a4$20e2c070$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> See attached sailing report for Lake Hartwell, on Sunday afternoon, March 12, 2006. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -------------- next part -------------- Name: Sunday March 12 06.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 122678 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/13/SundayMarch1206.jpg From wewickman at duke-energy.com Mon Mar 13 09:04:22 2006 From: wewickman at duke-energy.com (William E. Wickman) Date: Mon Mar 13 09:04:43 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip In-Reply-To: <00fd01c64665$cc211840$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Message-ID: Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This trip is doubly special for me because it is the last bonding experience with my son before he goes off to college. I will probably not have as much time with him collectively for the next 4 years as I will have on this one trip. I was hoping to stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 months) but alas, my son has a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away camp so I'll be limited to two weeks; besides the fact that I would probably lose my job if I took longer. I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then on to the Berry Islands. If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may sail over to Providence to visit my wife and two daughters who will be there for a week while one of my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin Encounters. A story, and the genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not bore you with. One cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not have a scheduled itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. Since you have been there, done that, I have a few of questions for you: What things did you not take that you wish you had? What things did you take that you found you did not need? Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus a small one for my dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or did you find need for a plow type? Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece of equipment? I have read that they are, but most of the people that say so were large boats with deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. Thanks, Bill W. "Chris Geankoplis" "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent by: rhodes22-list-bou cc nces@rhodes22.org Subject [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip 03/13/2006 01:17 AM Please respond to The Rhodes 22 mail list Bill, I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. Your Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to Bimini then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and south again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands including Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. Chris Geankoplis S/V Enosis Medford, OR __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 06:06:57 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Mon Mar 13 09:07:07 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060313140657.66632.qmail@web36414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you, Wally. I am being given a WWPotter 19 that unfortunately has had all manner of creatures (not human!) living inside for the past few years. But her hull appears sound, running rigging needs replacement but the standing rigging (on a brief inspection) looks good, with no fishhooks, etc.,cam cleats and fairleads look good but the turning blocks need replacement. Working at the marina will help me defray the costs of repairing & adding a few things. She & I will relearn some skills while I can find a way to go to the next step up. BTW..my daughter is in school not far from Knoxville...I was just there not long ago moving her & all her stuff with truck & trailer.......altho' it is @ a 15 hr drive from here to there....gottta do what you gotta do... Elle (looks like a name, doesn't it ;^) --- TN Rhodey wrote: > Welcome L Sailor! We really are a harmless bunch. > What pocket cruiser are > you being given? > > Keeping close to this list is a good way to keep an > eye out for a used R22. > > Fair Winds! > > Wally, Knoxville TN > > > >From: "L. Sailor" > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member > >Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:34:05 -0800 (PST) > > > >Ed. K. & all, > > > >It is Mrs. new member....altho' my Mr. recently > passed > >away.... > > > >I had to sell our larger boat as it was too big for > me > >to singlehand and the learning curve for all the > >systems was too steep.... I hope eventually (within > >two years) to have a Rhodes 22, which we had > >researched when we began sailing. My 'interval' > boat > >is a rather decrepit (but sound) pocket cruiser, > which > >a friend wants to give me just to get rid of it. > >(He'll keep another of his boats at my dock...so > it's > >a trade!) As I work at a marina, I can have any > work > >of consequence (read; safety) done very reasonably, > >and the other cosmetic and lifestyle stuff I can > do. > > > >So my purpose in joining the group was to become > >better informed about the newer Rhodes 22's to see > if > >this is really the boat for me, see what gear I > will > >need (want!) when it comes time to bite the > >bullet...as I intend to sail far & wide when I get > >it....meet other owners and hopefully profit from > >their experiences. > > > >I am not sure what the budget is, as I am paying > off > >the funeral and other expenses (anyone who has been > >there knows what a morass it is right now), help #2 > >daughter graduate from college, recover a bit from > >these past few months, and with luck, make a bit > from > >the little boat I fix up....and after looking at > the > >Rhodes website, I think in two years it will be > >doable. I would absolutely love to have a new > >Rhodes...and from what I have been able to gather, > >there are not many used ones out there...... > > > >In answer to your other question...No, I would not > >consider the Savannah a tributary.. ;^)...a bit > far... > >I am on the VA side of the Potomac..... > > > >You asked for details....maybe too much > information... > > > >L. Sailor > > > >--- Tootle wrote: > > > > > > > > Is that a mr or ms new member? As Bill has > > > indicated, more details... some > > > of us are more persnictity than others. > However, > > > the details help answer > > > your questions. Little things mean a lot. > > > > > > Would you consider the Savannah River a > tributary of > > > the Chesapeake? > > > > > > Have you looked at the third party web site: > > > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > > > ??? > > > > > > Spill the Boston beans, tell us in detail, why > are > > > you here, what you > > > already know, what your budget is, and all the > rest > > > of the pertinent > > > details. > > > > > > Ed K > > > Greenville, SC, USA > > > -- > > > View this message in context: > > > > >http://www.nabble.com/New-member-t1267726.html#a3365065 > > > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From R22RumRunner at aol.com Mon Mar 13 09:10:46 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 13 09:11:01 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member Message-ID: <266.75f7dc8.3146d766@aol.com> Elle, Now see, that wasn't so hard. Now we're on a first name basis. Rrrrrrrrrrrummy From R22RumRunner at aol.com Mon Mar 13 09:13:21 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 13 09:13:29 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sunday, March 12, 2006 Message-ID: <200.12883e1c.3146d801@aol.com> In a message dated 3/13/2006 8:45:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ekroposki@charter.net writes: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/13/SundayMarch120 6.jpg Ed, The picture is to small. What are we looking at? Rummy From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 06:44:53 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Mon Mar 13 09:45:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: <003001c64658$b35c8810$6401a8c0@mjm2> Message-ID: <20060313144453.82623.qmail@web36412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> HI, Michael, I mulled over whether to reply to you but as you took the time to write & appear to be a reasonable fellow, I thought you deserved the courtesy of a reply. I appreciate your comments, altho' the bar analogy brought up no memories, I do have vague recollections of dancing on a few tables at some owners' Rendezvous held in the past. Unfortunately, collective memory tends to become distorted over time, (that fish gets longer & longer with each telling) and the holders of those memories tend to become a bit possessive of them. I was not playing the 'I have more experience' game.....just stating a fact...it might be more correct to say that I spent ten years on the water, pulling lines,sheets & ropes at the behest of my best bud. I do not have the knowledge of many things that I will need for my future forays, as that info was in my hubby's head (we were a team & he did the technical & let me do all the other). He's not with me now, gone far too soon, and I have 'way much to learn to survive both on & off the water after almost 40 years with him. So I am here to learn but not to be bullied. It is too bad that judgements are made so swiftly (paranoid, newbie) before getting to know someone throught their postings. I can see why people would drop off after being on briefly if their 'welcome' was similar to mine. I do not believe that I necessrily got off to a wrong start....I was flamed for not doing things the way some people want them done. I have already divulged 'way too much information that is not germane to my reason for joining the list, which I have already given in a previous post. So, for now, I am la ragazza italiana del marinaio senza una barca, or Elle for short. --- Michel Meltzer wrote: > For what it worth. > > Remember the list is like a people hanging out at > the bar, drinking and > talking for the last 10 years. So there is a > collective memory of the > people who have come before you. So some insight. > > > We are a small boat with a low entry point, so at > times people jump on > the list who are new to the sport, think sailing is > cool, is a sport > that they can do alone, and that good for them > because they anti social, > kind of strange, generally paranoid. > > Now you mention that you are in the marine business > I sure you seen the > type. > > I going to take you at your word that you are a > sailor, and I assuming > you are a nice person, and I betting that you have > the ability for self > refection (otherwise I just wasted my time with this > email) > > The nominal course of event is a new member > introduces themselves, and > people do the "welcome aboard name", but with out > that(and first would > have been fine) you just managed to come off > paranoid, it that what you > wanted? > > The people love to take about their boats, but in > the last few months do > you want to guess how many people got on here kinda > passing thought(i.e. > I buy a boat in a few years), generally they drop > off in a few weeks, I > sure that not you but " collective memory" thing > again, it no fun being > rejected. > > > The experience thing, did you notice no one is > paying "I have more > experience than you game", it is a little tacky, you > would have been > better off telling a nice sailing story that show > the experience instead > of the 2x4 across the head approach. > > Remember most of the member of the list are boat > owners. > > The players, you do not know them let, you both over > reacting and under > reacting. > > > I subject you find a name, come off as a reasonable > sailor, an someone > people want to be around, get to know group and be > an active member. But > at this point, you have gotten off to a bad start, > an are like a > airplane in a drive, you know it going to crash. I > your case you are > going to delist in days within a statement pretty > close "how dare these > people" when all that happened is that you never > pulled out of drive. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org > [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of L. Sailor > > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:53 PM > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 > interest, but very coy > > > > Hey, A, > > > > Thanks for the info. I certainly agree with you > about > > the builder after reading the entire General Boats > > site last night....and the board seems to regard > him > > with true affection. > > > > To clarify: the $$ is not an issue as far as the > > quality of the boat is concerned; just right now > it is > > not possible. As we had a 34' cruiser with some > > amenities, the Rhodes appears to have the quality, > > seaworthyness, and amenities in a boat that I can > > handle by myself..... > > > > I have already made plans to go to Edenton within > the > > next two weeks to see for myself.... > > > > L. > > > > --- "Arthur H. Czerwonky" > > > wrote: > > > > > L, > > > > > > Seconded. No better boat for light cruising, > very > > > forgiving, can be very fast and fun, and can be > a > > > mite expensive. Truly a case of 'you get what > you > > > pay for. Think of this - a boat manufacturer > who > > > will upgrade entirely to your wishes, with good > > > advise on what would fit your wants the best, > with > > > foreknowledge of the budget limitations. You > don't > > > find manufacturers doing this anymore, > expecially > > > directly with the customer. > > > > > > So you want an in-furling Main this year, and a > > > furling Genny next? I'd suggest the opposite > order, > > > actually. Make a menu, bounce it around the > list a > > > little, visit Stan just down the road in Edenton > and > > > see it - you have the time now more than ever. > > > > > > No one is in a hurry, except maybe you, because > > > everyone on the list wants you to be a happy > camper > > > like them. Speaking of camping, many, many on > the > > > list camp on their boats. > > > > > > I can't say enough nice things about this boat, > L. > > > > > > Have a nice w and call S sometime, although he > is > > > under the weather with s. BTW, E and R will > trrrrry > > > to lure you to a place called H. Be carrreful > of > > > them cause they are a couple of slick b's. > We'll > > > watch closely for your progress with the R. > > > > > > R, > > > > > > A > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >From: Robert Skinner > > > >Sent: Mar 12, 2006 7:48 PM > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > > > > > > >Hello, L. Sailor! > > > > > > > >Now, y'all be kind to the old relic. > Seriously, if > > > >you have been used to a larger boat, the Rhodes > > > will > > > >suit you well. > > > > > > > >/Robert Skinner > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------ > > > >"L. Sailor" wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Ed. K. & all, > > > >> > > > >> It is Mrs. new member....altho' my Mr. > recently > > > passed > > > >> away.... > > > >> > > > >> I had to sell our larger boat as it was too > big > > > for me > > > >> to singlehand and the learning curve for all > the > > > >> systems was too steep.... I hope eventually > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 06:46:01 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Mon Mar 13 09:46:03 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <266.75f7dc8.3146d766@aol.com> Message-ID: <20060313144601.22026.qmail@web36411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ;^) --- R22RumRunner@aol.com wrote: > Elle, > Now see, that wasn't so hard. Now we're on a first > name basis. > > Rrrrrrrrrrrummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 06:52:01 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Mon Mar 13 09:52:07 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <22f.8075202.3146b817@aol.com> Message-ID: <20060313145201.33642.qmail@web36415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It follows a nerve and is EXTREMELY painful. It is the Herpes Zoster virus (not the same as the other 'herpes'...Herpes simplex, which is the one that produces cold sores and other things I am not willing to discuss here.) Elle --- R22RumRunner@aol.com wrote: > Art, > The shingles are a ticking time bomb that rests in > your body from child > hood. It comes from having had the chicken pox in > your youth. > > Rrrrrrrrrrummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 07:00:20 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Mon Mar 13 10:00:25 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: <033501c6466e$35a524c0$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Message-ID: <20060313150020.37096.qmail@web36415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Grazie, Chris... S? e le sue estremit? nome in una vocale......so cos? selo guardi da... hanno amici ;^) Elle --- Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Cara L,. > Finalmente abbiamo un' paisana propria sulla > lista. And don't worry > about the name, most of these guys and gals use > weird nome de plumes anyway. > C(hris) G > M(edford) OR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L. Sailor" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 > interest, but very coy > > > > Hey, A, > > > > Thanks for the info. I certainly agree with you > about > > the builder after reading the entire General Boats > > site last night....and the board seems to regard > him > > with true affection. > > > > To clarify: the $$ is not an issue as far as the > > quality of the boat is concerned; just right now > it is > > not possible. As we had a 34' cruiser with some > > amenities, the Rhodes appears to have the quality, > > seaworthyness, and amenities in a boat that I can > > handle by myself..... > > > > I have already made plans to go to Edenton within > the > > next two weeks to see for myself.... > > > > L. > > > > --- "Arthur H. Czerwonky" > > > wrote: > > > > > L, > > > > > > Seconded. No better boat for light cruising, > very > > > forgiving, can be very fast and fun, and can be > a > > > mite expensive. Truly a case of 'you get what > you > > > pay for. Think of this - a boat manufacturer > who > > > will upgrade entirely to your wishes, with good > > > advise on what would fit your wants the best, > with > > > foreknowledge of the budget limitations. You > don't > > > find manufacturers doing this anymore, > expecially > > > directly with the customer. > > > > > > So you want an in-furling Main this year, and a > > > furling Genny next? I'd suggest the opposite > order, > > > actually. Make a menu, bounce it around the > list a > > > little, visit Stan just down the road in Edenton > and > > > see it - you have the time now more than ever. > > > > > > No one is in a hurry, except maybe you, because > > > everyone on the list wants you to be a happy > camper > > > like them. Speaking of camping, many, many on > the > > > list camp on their boats. > > > > > > I can't say enough nice things about this boat, > L. > > > > > > Have a nice w and call S sometime, although he > is > > > under the weather with s. BTW, E and R will > trrrrry > > > to lure you to a place called H. Be carrreful > of > > > them cause they are a couple of slick b's. > We'll > > > watch closely for your progress with the R. > > > > > > R, > > > > > > A > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >From: Robert Skinner > > > >Sent: Mar 12, 2006 7:48 PM > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > > > > > > >Hello, L. Sailor! > > > > > > > >Now, y'all be kind to the old relic. > Seriously, if > > > >you have been used to a larger boat, the Rhodes > > > will > > > >suit you well. > > > > > > > >/Robert Skinner > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------ > > > >"L. Sailor" wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Ed. K. & all, > > > >> > > > >> It is Mrs. new member....altho' my Mr. > recently > > > passed > > > >> away.... > > > >> > > > >> I had to sell our larger boat as it was too > big > > > for me > > > >> to singlehand and the learning curve for all > the > > > >> systems was too steep.... I hope eventually > > > (within > > > >> two years) to have a Rhodes 22, which we had > > > >> researched when we began sailing. My > 'interval' > > > boat > > > >> is a rather decrepit (but sound) pocket > cruiser, > > > which > > > >> a friend wants to give me just to get rid of > it. > > > >> (He'll keep another of his boats at my > dock...so > > > it's > > > >> a trade!) As I work at a marina, I can have > any > > > work > > > >> of consequence (read; safety) done very > > > reasonably, > > > >> and the other cosmetic and lifestyle stuff I > can > > > do. > > > >> > > > >> So my purpose in joining the group was to > become > > > >> better informed about the newer Rhodes 22's > to > > > see if > > > >> this is really the boat for me, see what gear > I > > > will > > > >> need (want!) when it comes time to bite the > > > >> bullet...as I intend to sail far & wide when > I > > > get > > > >> it....meet other owners and hopefully profit > from > > > >> their experiences. > > > >> > > > >> I am not sure what the budget is, as I am > paying > > > off > > > >> the funeral and other expenses (anyone who > has > > > been > > > >> there knows what a morass it is right now), > help > > > #2 > > > >> daughter graduate from college, recover a bit > > > from > > > >> these past few months, and with luck, make a > bit > > > from > > > >> the little boat I fix up....and after looking > at > > > the > > > >> Rhodes website, I think in two years it will > be > > > >> doable. I would absolutely love to have a new > > > >> Rhodes...and from what I have been able to > > > gather, > > > >> there are not many used ones out there...... > > > >> > > > >> In answer to your other question...No, I > would > > > not > > > >> consider the Savannah a tributary.. ;^)...a > bit > > > far... > > > >> I am on the VA side of the Potomac..... > > > >> > > > >> You asked for details....maybe too much > > > information... > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From R22RumRunner at aol.com Mon Mar 13 10:09:44 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 13 10:09:55 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy Message-ID: <2fa.75d175.3146e538@aol.com> Elle, This list is more like a family than any other sailing forum you will experience. Since the list is actually supported (Michael owns and operates the list) by the owners, not the factory or Sailnet or anyone else, we tend to be more friendly than other lists. We do not bully newbies, but try to get enough information so that we can be on a first name basis. Welcome to the family. Rrrrrrrrrrrummy From R22RumRunner at aol.com Mon Mar 13 10:11:58 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 13 10:12:07 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Addendul to original post. Message-ID: <92.362c1638.3146e5be@aol.com> Elle, Don't mind Ed, he tends to be an ass from time to time and works very hard at it. Rrrrrrrrrummy From hnw555 at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 10:27:27 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Mon Mar 13 10:27:33 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: <2fa.75d175.3146e538@aol.com> References: <2fa.75d175.3146e538@aol.com> Message-ID: Elle, I second Rummy's comments below and add, like any family, you get all types. There's always the uncle (or cousin or brother or whatever) who, at times can be a royal PITA, but in the end we wouldn't go on without him (or her). Welcome aboard! Hank On 3/13/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com wrote: > > Elle, > This list is more like a family than any other sailing forum you will > experience. Since the list is actually supported (Michael owns and > operates the > list) by the owners, not the factory or Sailnet or anyone else, we tend to > be > more friendly than other lists. We do not bully newbies, but try to get > enough > information so that we can be on a first name basis. > Welcome to the family. > > Rrrrrrrrrrrummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From ralphzeto at msn.com Mon Mar 13 10:27:28 2006 From: ralphzeto at msn.com (Ralph Zeto) Date: Mon Mar 13 10:27:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy References: <20060313144453.82623.qmail@web36412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Elle "There ain't no surer way to find out whether you like people or dislike them than to travel with them" ---Mark Twain--- Ralf ----- Original Message ----- From: L. Sailor To: The Rhodes 22 mail list Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 9:44 AM Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy HI, Michael, I mulled over whether to reply to you but as you took the time to write & appear to be a reasonable fellow, I thought you deserved the courtesy of a reply. I appreciate your comments, altho' the bar analogy brought up no memories, I do have vague recollections of dancing on a few tables at some owners' Rendezvous held in the past. Unfortunately, collective memory tends to become distorted over time, (that fish gets longer & longer with each telling) and the holders of those memories tend to become a bit possessive of them. I was not playing the 'I have more experience' game.....just stating a fact...it might be more correct to say that I spent ten years on the water, pulling lines,sheets & ropes at the behest of my best bud. I do not have the knowledge of many things that I will need for my future forays, as that info was in my hubby's head (we were a team & he did the technical & let me do all the other). He's not with me now, gone far too soon, and I have 'way much to learn to survive both on & off the water after almost 40 years with him. So I am here to learn but not to be bullied. It is too bad that judgements are made so swiftly (paranoid, newbie) before getting to know someone throught their postings. I can see why people would drop off after being on briefly if their 'welcome' was similar to mine. I do not believe that I necessrily got off to a wrong start....I was flamed for not doing things the way some people want them done. I have already divulged 'way too much information that is not germane to my reason for joining the list, which I have already given in a previous post. So, for now, I am la ragazza italiana del marinaio senza una barca, or Elle for short. --- Michel Meltzer > wrote: > For what it worth. > > Remember the list is like a people hanging out at > the bar, drinking and > talking for the last 10 years. So there is a > collective memory of the > people who have come before you. So some insight. > > > We are a small boat with a low entry point, so at > times people jump on > the list who are new to the sport, think sailing is > cool, is a sport > that they can do alone, and that good for them > because they anti social, > kind of strange, generally paranoid. > > Now you mention that you are in the marine business > I sure you seen the > type. > > I going to take you at your word that you are a > sailor, and I assuming > you are a nice person, and I betting that you have > the ability for self > refection (otherwise I just wasted my time with this > email) > > The nominal course of event is a new member > introduces themselves, and > people do the "welcome aboard name", but with out > that(and first would > have been fine) you just managed to come off > paranoid, it that what you > wanted? > > The people love to take about their boats, but in > the last few months do > you want to guess how many people got on here kinda > passing thought(i.e. > I buy a boat in a few years), generally they drop > off in a few weeks, I > sure that not you but " collective memory" thing > again, it no fun being > rejected. > > > The experience thing, did you notice no one is > paying "I have more > experience than you game", it is a little tacky, you > would have been > better off telling a nice sailing story that show > the experience instead > of the 2x4 across the head approach. > > Remember most of the member of the list are boat > owners. > > The players, you do not know them let, you both over > reacting and under > reacting. > > > I subject you find a name, come off as a reasonable > sailor, an someone > people want to be around, get to know group and be > an active member. But > at this point, you have gotten off to a bad start, > an are like a > airplane in a drive, you know it going to crash. I > your case you are > going to delist in days within a statement pretty > close "how dare these > people" when all that happened is that you never > pulled out of drive. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org > [mailto:rhodes22-list- > > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of L. Sailor > > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:53 PM > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 > interest, but very coy > > > > Hey, A, > > > > Thanks for the info. I certainly agree with you > about > > the builder after reading the entire General Boats > > site last night....and the board seems to regard > him > > with true affection. > > > > To clarify: the $$ is not an issue as far as the > > quality of the boat is concerned; just right now > it is > > not possible. As we had a 34' cruiser with some > > amenities, the Rhodes appears to have the quality, > > seaworthyness, and amenities in a boat that I can > > handle by myself..... > > > > I have already made plans to go to Edenton within > the > > next two weeks to see for myself.... > > > > L. > > > > --- "Arthur H. Czerwonky" > > > > wrote: > > > > > L, > > > > > > Seconded. No better boat for light cruising, > very > > > forgiving, can be very fast and fun, and can be > a > > > mite expensive. Truly a case of 'you get what > you > > > pay for. Think of this - a boat manufacturer > who > > > will upgrade entirely to your wishes, with good > > > advise on what would fit your wants the best, > with > > > foreknowledge of the budget limitations. You > don't > > > find manufacturers doing this anymore, > expecially > > > directly with the customer. > > > > > > So you want an in-furling Main this year, and a > > > furling Genny next? I'd suggest the opposite > order, > > > actually. Make a menu, bounce it around the > list a > > > little, visit Stan just down the road in Edenton > and > > > see it - you have the time now more than ever. > > > > > > No one is in a hurry, except maybe you, because > > > everyone on the list wants you to be a happy > camper > > > like them. Speaking of camping, many, many on > the > > > list camp on their boats. > > > > > > I can't say enough nice things about this boat, > L. > > > > > > Have a nice w and call S sometime, although he > is > > > under the weather with s. BTW, E and R will > trrrrry > > > to lure you to a place called H. Be carrreful > of > > > them cause they are a couple of slick b's. > We'll > > > watch closely for your progress with the R. > > > > > > R, > > > > > > A > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >From: Robert Skinner > > > > >Sent: Mar 12, 2006 7:48 PM > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > > > > > > >Hello, L. Sailor! > > > > > > > >Now, y'all be kind to the old relic. > Seriously, if > > > >you have been used to a larger boat, the Rhodes > > > will > > > >suit you well. > > > > > > > >/Robert Skinner > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------ > > > >"L. Sailor" wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Ed. K. & all, > > > >> > > > >> It is Mrs. new member....altho' my Mr. > recently > > > passed > > > >> away.... > > > >> > > > >> I had to sell our larger boat as it was too > big > > > for me > > > >> to singlehand and the learning curve for all > the > > > >> systems was too steep.... I hope eventually > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 13 09:30:06 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Mon Mar 13 10:30:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question Message-ID: Hi All, I am happy to say after a case of beer, wicked sun burn, more than a few curse words, RUBA is in her slip. Only a couple of set backs - mostly beer induced. One unexpected problem has to do with the water tank. It was empty on my last sail and I was on my ear most of the day. When I saw it unseated I was not suprised. Then I noticed the hose to the faucet was disconnected. It was conneceted to a nipple which broke off in the hose I guess when the tank came unseated. Now I have a flush hole and a hose. I am sure there is a plumbing solution, anyone have any Ideas. Thanks in advance. Bob Weber From R22RumRunner at aol.com Mon Mar 13 10:37:13 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 13 10:37:33 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question Message-ID: <300.6c5dce.3146eba9@aol.com> Bob, Are you saying the threads from the came off with the nipple? Rummy From hnw555 at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 10:41:41 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Mon Mar 13 10:41:44 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question In-Reply-To: <300.6c5dce.3146eba9@aol.com> References: <300.6c5dce.3146eba9@aol.com> Message-ID: Rummy, You forgot a word. Threads from the what? On 3/13/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com wrote: > > Bob, > Are you saying the threads from the came off with the nipple? > > Rummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 13 10:02:34 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Mon Mar 13 11:02:40 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question In-Reply-To: <300.6c5dce.3146eba9@aol.com> Message-ID: R, I wish I had taken a picture. There was a plastic nipple that was molded on the tank right at the pump. The nipple broke off completely in the hose going to the faucet. Now the tank has a hole where the nipple used to be. Clear as mud? Bob >From: R22RumRunner@aol.com >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:37:13 EST > >Bob, >Are you saying the threads from the came off with the nipple? > >Rummy >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From hnw555 at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 11:11:32 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Mon Mar 13 11:11:36 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question In-Reply-To: References: <300.6c5dce.3146eba9@aol.com> Message-ID: Bob, Not a 100% sure on this, but I think you can get with a plumbing supply house and find nipples or fitting that may be able to fit inside a hole, kind of like a through hull, if yu get my meaning. I briefly looked here http://www.plumbingsupply.com/pvc.html, but I bet if you called these guys or went to s store, you could find a solution. Hank On 3/13/06, Bob Weber wrote: > > R, I wish I had taken a picture. There was a plastic nipple that was > molded > on the tank right at the pump. The nipple broke off completely in the > hose > going to the faucet. Now the tank has a hole where the nipple used to be. > Clear as mud? Bob > > > >From: R22RumRunner@aol.com > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question > >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:37:13 EST > > > >Bob, > >Are you saying the threads from the came off with the nipple? > > > >Rummy > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From R22RumRunner at aol.com Mon Mar 13 11:14:43 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 13 11:14:54 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question Message-ID: <2c4.517ab7e.3146f473@aol.com> Threads from the water tank? R From R22RumRunner at aol.com Mon Mar 13 11:16:45 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 13 11:17:00 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question Message-ID: <200.128a0d35.3146f4ed@aol.com> Bob, On my boat, the pump screws into the tank. Then there is a hose connection on the other side for the water line going to the faucet. R From tnrhodey at hotmail.com Mon Mar 13 12:50:28 2006 From: tnrhodey at hotmail.com (TN Rhodey) Date: Mon Mar 13 12:50:35 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question In-Reply-To: <200.128a0d35.3146f4ed@aol.com> Message-ID: Mine is set up like Rummy's. I replaced my pump with a cheap self priming pump. Wally >From: R22RumRunner@aol.com >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:16:45 EST > >Bob, >On my boat, the pump screws into the tank. Then there is a hose connection >on the other side for the water line going to the faucet. > >R >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 13 13:05:19 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Mon Mar 13 14:05:27 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question In-Reply-To: <2c4.517ab7e.3146f473@aol.com> Message-ID: Rummy, Ok I guess I don't know what the word Threads means. Or at least my understanding of the word doesnt make sense. If you had to connect a hose to a hole in a tank how would you go about it. Kind of a female to female connection. There must be a male adapter that would work but the one on the tamk side would have to be self sealing. I have never seen such a thing. Bob >From: R22RumRunner@aol.com >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:14:43 EST > >Threads from the water tank? > >R >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 13 13:08:50 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Mon Mar 13 14:08:55 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question In-Reply-To: <200.128a0d35.3146f4ed@aol.com> Message-ID: R, that might be the case on my boat as well. I ran out of time and patience. If it were a matter of buying a new pump and screwing it into the tank that would be a simple job. I will look next time out. Stan if you are catching this and you have only used one type of tank/pump setup, you can jump in anytime. Bob >From: R22RumRunner@aol.com >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:16:45 EST > >Bob, >On my boat, the pump screws into the tank. Then there is a hose connection >on the other side for the water line going to the faucet. > >R >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From julie at circle7.net Mon Mar 13 13:07:02 2006 From: julie at circle7.net (Julie Thorndycraft) Date: Mon Mar 13 14:17:42 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest Message-ID: <380-2200631131972362@circle7.net> Elle, Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list/party/dialog/brawl. The list is made up of some very charming, unique individuals who all have a couple things in common - we all love to sail, love our Rhodes, and have absolute devotion to Stan. It is a great source of information both before you own a Rhodes and afterwards when you run into the usual repairs. The list will go on tirades with bad jokes, politics on both sides of the fence, and many other conversations that are not generally associated with a sailing list. It's what makes this group unique. So, stay with us - from what I've read, you're fiesty enough to put up with the occassional BS that the list generates. Julie s/v Blue Loon Excelsior, MN From ekroposki at charter.net Mon Mar 13 11:25:54 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Mon Mar 13 14:25:58 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question et al. In-Reply-To: References: <300.6c5dce.3146eba9@aol.com> <2c4.517ab7e.3146f473@aol.com> Message-ID: <3383902.post@talk.nabble.com> Bob: Someone already said consider a thru hull. Look at page 545 in the 2006 West Marine catalog. See items C thru J. All you need to do is ream out the exsisting hole to correct size and install. Oh, and they have threads, imagine that. Would any of those things get the job done? http://www.westmarine.com/ Rummy: As to the picture, there are sailboats having a good sail since it was a R22 taking the picture, there is no other rhodes in the picture. If you need magnification, use your image viewer and magnify. Is your Drill press and router over in Rodger's workshop? Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Plumbing-Question-t1273061.html#a3383902 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From hnw555 at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 14:45:03 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Mon Mar 13 14:45:35 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question In-Reply-To: References: <2c4.517ab7e.3146f473@aol.com> Message-ID: Bob, I'm pretty confident that you can buy some kind of fitting that would fit through the hole you now have in your tank and mount on with a backing nut, pretty much the same as a through hull or seacock does on the boat. The part the sticks out of the tank would have the nipple for the hose or connect to something that ends up in a nipple for the hose. Hank On 3/13/06, Bob Weber wrote: > > Rummy, Ok I guess I don't know what the word Threads means. Or at least > my > understanding of the word doesnt make sense. If you had to connect a hose > to a hole in a tank how would you go about it. Kind of a female to female > connection. There must be a male adapter that would work but the one on > the > tamk side would have to be self sealing. I have never seen such a thing. > Bob > > > >From: R22RumRunner@aol.com > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question > >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:14:43 EST > > > >Threads from the water tank? > > > >R > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From hnw555 at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 14:45:03 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Mon Mar 13 14:48:18 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question In-Reply-To: References: <2c4.517ab7e.3146f473@aol.com> Message-ID: Bob, I'm pretty confident that you can buy some kind of fitting that would fit through the hole you now have in your tank and mount on with a backing nut, pretty much the same as a through hull or seacock does on the boat. The part the sticks out of the tank would have the nipple for the hose or connect to something that ends up in a nipple for the hose. Hank On 3/13/06, Bob Weber wrote: > > Rummy, Ok I guess I don't know what the word Threads means. Or at least > my > understanding of the word doesnt make sense. If you had to connect a hose > to a hole in a tank how would you go about it. Kind of a female to female > connection. There must be a male adapter that would work but the one on > the > tamk side would have to be self sealing. I have never seen such a thing. > Bob > > > >From: R22RumRunner@aol.com > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question > >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:14:43 EST > > > >Threads from the water tank? > > > >R > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From rlipton at earthlink.net Mon Mar 13 13:38:27 2006 From: rlipton at earthlink.net (Ronald Lipton) Date: Mon Mar 13 14:49:01 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question References: Message-ID: <001c01c646d5$b39829b0$b8a3e183@liptonlaptop2> Could you be talking about the barb? Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Weber" To: Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question > Rummy, Ok I guess I don't know what the word Threads means. Or at least > my understanding of the word doesnt make sense. If you had to connect a > hose to a hole in a tank how would you go about it. Kind of a female to > female connection. There must be a male adapter that would work but the > one on the tamk side would have to be self sealing. I have never seen > such a thing. Bob > > >>From: R22RumRunner@aol.com >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >>To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question >>Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:14:43 EST >> >>Threads from the water tank? >> >>R >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From R22RumRunner at aol.com Mon Mar 13 14:49:34 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 13 14:49:57 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question et al. Message-ID: <9a.37e74f3d.314726ce@aol.com> Ed, My drill press and router are where they are supposed to, in my garage. Rodger has is own. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy From hnw555 at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 14:50:08 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Mon Mar 13 14:50:15 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question et al. In-Reply-To: <3383902.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <300.6c5dce.3146eba9@aol.com> <2c4.517ab7e.3146f473@aol.com> <3383902.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: Bob, The marelon mushroom head, barbed, goes down to a 1/2" barb. Is that small enough for the hose? If not, buy the treaded and use reducers to get to a smaller size. Should work just fine. Hank On 3/13/06, Tootle wrote: > > > Bob: > Someone already said consider a thru hull. Look at page 545 in the > 2006 West Marine catalog. See items C thru J. All you need to do is ream > out the exsisting hole to correct size and install. Oh, and they have > threads, imagine that. Would any of those things get the job done? > http://www.westmarine.com/ > > Rummy: > As to the picture, there are sailboats having a good sail since it > was a R22 taking the picture, there is no other rhodes in the picture. If > you need magnification, use your image viewer and magnify. > Is your Drill press and router over in Rodger's workshop? > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Plumbing-Question-t1273061.html#a3383902 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 13 14:05:27 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Mon Mar 13 15:05:33 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question et al. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hank, Ed, Rummy, Thanks I think the thru hull kind of thing would work but I may have to cut a access hole in the water tank inorder to put on the backing plate. I am now hoping that it is a matter of buying an new pump which will be perfectly threaded to fit the tank. Stan - anytime. Bob >From: Hank >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question et al. >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:50:08 -0500 > >Bob, > >The marelon mushroom head, barbed, goes down to a 1/2" barb. Is that small >enough for the hose? If not, buy the treaded and use reducers to get to a >smaller size. Should work just fine. > >Hank > > >On 3/13/06, Tootle wrote: > > > > > > Bob: > > Someone already said consider a thru hull. Look at page 545 in the > > 2006 West Marine catalog. See items C thru J. All you need to do is >ream > > out the exsisting hole to correct size and install. Oh, and they have > > threads, imagine that. Would any of those things get the job done? > > http://www.westmarine.com/ > > > > Rummy: > > As to the picture, there are sailboats having a good sail since it > > was a R22 taking the picture, there is no other rhodes in the picture. >If > > you need magnification, use your image viewer and magnify. > > Is your Drill press and router over in Rodger's workshop? > > > > Ed K > > Greenville, SC, USA > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > http://www.nabble.com/Plumbing-Question-t1273061.html#a3383902 > > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From R22RumRunner at aol.com Mon Mar 13 15:14:18 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 13 15:14:29 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question et al. Message-ID: <2c1.691fe6d.31472c9a@aol.com> Bob, W.M. has the perfect replacement. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy From jbunnell at mac.com Mon Mar 13 09:54:19 2006 From: jbunnell at mac.com (Jim Bunnell) Date: Mon Mar 13 16:04:28 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] NASCAR In-Reply-To: References: <380-22006301241031846@M2W092.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <63F5967A-7FCB-4DF0-B0C6-ECD5BA812EFF@mac.com> For what it's worth, the movie was filmed around Mooresville, which is by the upper part of Lake Norman. Had the whole area in a stir while the stars were there. The old barn has become a condo site, however. The area is really building up. On Mar 11, 2006, at 11:38 PM, Hank wrote: > > If you want to get a good idea about NASCAR, rent the movie, "Days of > Thunder" with Tom Cruise. > From bill at effros.com Mon Mar 13 17:05:54 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Mon Mar 13 17:06:01 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <19225721.1142217150868.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <19225721.1142217150868.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4415ECC2.7000003@effros.com> Call Rummy. Bill Effros Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > Ed, > How do you get shingles? > Art > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Tootle >> Sent: Mar 12, 2006 9:06 PM >> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member >> >> >> Rummy, >> Now I get the signature, it stands for leaky sailor. Can you imagine >> waiting for two years to get a Rhodes 22? Has anyone told her that it is >> taking Stan two years to build one? As for used Rhodes 22's they come on >> the market once in a while, however, if they are in reasonable shape they do >> not stay on the market long, just ask Todd. The ocean is full of sharks. >> Does she understand the builder of the Rhodes 22 just had his 80th birthday >> Saturday. Shingles is a recurring viral infection that once you get them >> then for no apparent reason they can recur. Usually painful and putting one >> in bed for a week... >> >> Ed K >> Greenville, SC, USA >> Addendum: ?Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in >> overalls and looks like work.? Thomas Alva Edison >> -- >> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-member-t1267726.html#a3371251 >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 14:48:04 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Mon Mar 13 17:48:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest In-Reply-To: <380-2200631131972362@circle7.net> Message-ID: <20060313224804.63379.qmail@web36413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you, Julie. I think I will learn more than I thought when I signed on...;^) Elle --- Julie Thorndycraft wrote: > > > Elle, > Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list/party/dialog/brawl. > The list is made up > of some very charming, unique individuals who all > have a couple > things in common - we all love to sail, love our > Rhodes, and have > absolute devotion to Stan. > > It is a great source of information both before you > own a Rhodes and > afterwards when you run into the usual repairs. The > list will go on > tirades with bad jokes, politics on both sides of > the fence, and many > other conversations that are not generally > associated with a sailing > list. It's what makes this group unique. > > So, stay with us - from what I've read, you're > fiesty enough to put > up with the occassional BS that the list generates. > > Julie > s/v Blue Loon > Excelsior, MN > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From thescubatank at cox.net Mon Mar 13 17:56:04 2006 From: thescubatank at cox.net (thescubatank@cox.net) Date: Mon Mar 13 17:56:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member Message-ID: <20060313225629.APM9108.eastrmmtao06.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> I live in Chesapeake, sail the bay by the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel. Steve Hemphill S/V Ad Astra > > From: "L. Sailor" > Date: 2006/03/12 Sun AM 09:06:04 EST > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > Hello, all Rhodes owners, > > I am seriously interested in becoming a Rhodes owner. > I would like to know if there are any owners in the > Chesapeake Bay area (including tributaries). > > Thank you. > watermusic38@yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From re.miller at verizon.net Mon Mar 13 19:25:11 2006 From: re.miller at verizon.net (RUSSELL E MILLER) Date: Mon Mar 13 19:25:11 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbies Message-ID: <013a01c646fd$c2343770$2f01a8c0@rmiller> Elle- There are also a few of us that are former Rhodes but have gravitated to the Seaward 26RK which we purchased from GBI. We maintain our allegiance to Stan, Elton and Rose and take our Seawards to them for TLC. This group is more like a cult i.e.. Rhodes Groupies all 100 +/- of us. Some of us are more vociferous/ boisterous than others but we all love and support GBI. Also consider that they (GBI) pays nothing for our support but we intern constantly badger them with - can you help? Stan most generously replies with his superb knowledge and guidance. Hope you enjoy our diatribe, however pointed it may become especially when we discuss???? POLITICS. To say the least we are NOT OPINIONATED, just set in our ways Russ s/v Bulldog From re.miller at att.net Mon Mar 13 19:28:13 2006 From: re.miller at att.net (Russell Miller) Date: Mon Mar 13 19:28:22 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member References: <20060313225629.APM9108.eastrmmtao06.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> Message-ID: <018001c646fe$36a2e340$2f01a8c0@rmiller> Elle- We kepp our Bulldog at Spring Cove Marina in Rock Hall, MDE. Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member > I live in Chesapeake, sail the bay by the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel. > > Steve Hemphill > S/V Ad Astra > > > > From: "L. Sailor" > > Date: 2006/03/12 Sun AM 09:06:04 EST > > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > > > Hello, all Rhodes owners, > > > > I am seriously interested in becoming a Rhodes owner. > > I would like to know if there are any owners in the > > Chesapeake Bay area (including tributaries). > > > > Thank you. > > watermusic38@yahoo.com > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 17:03:12 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Mon Mar 13 20:03:17 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <20060313225629.APM9108.eastrmmtao06.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> Message-ID: <20060314010312.86413.qmail@web36411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, Steve, I'm up on the Potomac, a great location for going north, south or east... Elle --- thescubatank@cox.net wrote: > I live in Chesapeake, sail the bay by the Chesapeake > Bay Bridge Tunnel. > > Steve Hemphill > S/V Ad Astra > > > > From: "L. Sailor" > > Date: 2006/03/12 Sun AM 09:06:04 EST > > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > > > Hello, all Rhodes owners, > > > > I am seriously interested in becoming a Rhodes > owner. > > I would like to know if there are any owners in > the > > Chesapeake Bay area (including tributaries). > > > > Thank you. > > watermusic38@yahoo.com > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 17:12:59 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Mon Mar 13 20:13:03 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbies In-Reply-To: <013a01c646fd$c2343770$2f01a8c0@rmiller> Message-ID: <20060314011259.22814.qmail@web36406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, Russ, I had the pleasure of recently talking to both Rose & Stan & have made plans to venture down there to see the plant and hulls in progress. After talking to them i can understand the allegiance felt by the group. They are very outgoing and friendly, altho' he was feeling a bit puny when we spoke. Stan also expects me to bring my '80 pound stomach with teeth' (my yellow lab) and have offered a room to stay. That is quite unexpected. Opinionated was not necessarily the word that comes to mind.... :^) ;^) Elle --- RUSSELL E MILLER wrote: > Elle- > > There are also a few of us that are former Rhodes > but have gravitated to the Seaward 26RK which we > purchased from GBI. We maintain our allegiance to > Stan, Elton and Rose and take our Seawards to them > for TLC. This group is more like a cult i.e.. > Rhodes Groupies all 100 +/- of us. Some of us are > more vociferous/ boisterous than others but we all > love and support GBI. Also consider that they (GBI) > pays nothing for our support but we intern > constantly badger them with - can you help? Stan > most generously replies with his superb knowledge > and guidance. > > Hope you enjoy our diatribe, however pointed it may > become especially when we discuss???? POLITICS. To > say the least we are NOT OPINIONATED, just set in > our ways > > Russ > > s/v Bulldog > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 17:21:34 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Mon Mar 13 20:21:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <018001c646fe$36a2e340$2f01a8c0@rmiller> Message-ID: <20060314012134.81657.qmail@web36403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That is quite a busy place in the summer...We've been to Rock Hall,(but not to the marina) Whorton Creek, Still Pond, and Fairlee Creek.....Isn't that quite a trek from Chesapeake? Do you take the bridge-tunnel & go up the Eastern Shore? Elle --- Russell Miller wrote: > Elle- > > We kepp our Bulldog at Spring Cove Marina in Rock > Hall, MDE. > > Russ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > > > I live in Chesapeake, sail the bay by the > Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel. > > > > Steve Hemphill > > S/V Ad Astra > > > > > > From: "L. Sailor" > > > Date: 2006/03/12 Sun AM 09:06:04 EST > > > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > > > > > Hello, all Rhodes owners, > > > > > > I am seriously interested in becoming a Rhodes > owner. > > > I would like to know if there are any owners in > the > > > Chesapeake Bay area (including tributaries). > > > > > > Thank you. > > > watermusic38@yahoo.com > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 13 17:29:34 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Mon Mar 13 20:29:38 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060314012934.70403.qmail@web36409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank you, thank you. Nothing like a little initiation... Elle --- Hank wrote: > Elle, > > I second Rummy's comments below and add, like any > family, you get all > types. There's always the uncle (or cousin or > brother or whatever) who, at > times can be a royal PITA, but in the end we > wouldn't go on without him (or > her). > > Welcome aboard! > > Hank > > On 3/13/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com > wrote: > > > > Elle, > > This list is more like a family than any other > sailing forum you will > > experience. Since the list is actually supported > (Michael owns and > > operates the > > list) by the owners, not the factory or Sailnet or > anyone else, we tend to > > be > > more friendly than other lists. We do not bully > newbies, but try to get > > enough > > information so that we can be on a first name > basis. > > Welcome to the family. > > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrummy > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From thescubatank at cox.net Mon Mar 13 21:05:30 2006 From: thescubatank at cox.net (thescubatank@cox.net) Date: Mon Mar 13 21:06:03 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member Message-ID: <20060314020554.QTIN19943.eastrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> > I pulled Ad Astra out off the water this last weekend, we are doing a bottom job and redoing the interior before the season gets into full swing. We have talked about sailing up the chesapeake to the potomac and into the capital. Maybe next summer. Need to get the kids well versed by doing day trips and overnighters to the eastern shore first. Steve & Annette S/V Ad Astra > From: "L. Sailor" > Date: 2006/03/13 Mon PM 08:03:12 EST > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > Hi, Steve, > I'm up on the Potomac, a great location for going > north, south or east... > > Elle > > > --- thescubatank@cox.net wrote: > > > I live in Chesapeake, sail the bay by the Chesapeake > > Bay Bridge Tunnel. > > > > Steve Hemphill > > S/V Ad Astra > > > > > > From: "L. Sailor" > > > Date: 2006/03/12 Sun AM 09:06:04 EST > > > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > > > > > Hello, all Rhodes owners, > > > > > > I am seriously interested in becoming a Rhodes > > owner. > > > I would like to know if there are any owners in > > the > > > Chesapeake Bay area (including tributaries). > > > > > > Thank you. > > > watermusic38@yahoo.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From wp.barry at att.net Mon Mar 13 21:22:29 2006 From: wp.barry at att.net (William P. Barry, III) Date: Mon Mar 13 21:22:19 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] rhodes22.org UPDATE Message-ID: <002201c6470e$2ea35c50$0200a8c0@xp958> Find on the "tech" page of the rhodes22.org site a file on Centerboard and Trunk Restoration. Will Barry wp.barry@att.net From R22RumRunner at aol.com Mon Mar 13 21:22:04 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 13 21:22:23 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member Message-ID: <2da.434c1d4.314782cc@aol.com> The Capital? Make sure you get clearance from Homeland security. I don't think our bank account has enough dollars in it to bail you out. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrummy.........damn, I like typing that. It has a great sound to it. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrummy From zoomerzx at gmail.com Mon Mar 13 20:49:35 2006 From: zoomerzx at gmail.com (Todd Zumach) Date: Mon Mar 13 21:49:44 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: <20060314012934.70403.qmail@web36409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060314012934.70403.qmail@web36409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <39c52f6f0603131849w466b7281xe3f28b17cbc9cbc@mail.gmail.com> Elle, I just thought I would provide my two cents worth. First, welcome aboard! As a seasoned newbie (I joined this rag tag group last summer just before I purchased a used boat that I was fortunate enough to snap up two days after it became available), I have started to become immune to some of the sarcasm of the elders on the list. In spite of the gruff manner of these guys, I have learned a lot from them. The best advice I got from the all knowing ones is to search the archives for information covered in the past. I still haven't figured out the best way to search them, but I have enjoyed the reading. I do know you can use Google.com to search within the archives by using the following syntax: site:rhodes22.org XXXXXXX where the XXs represent the word or phrase you are searching for. Also, one of the other senior members who happens to not be as grumpy as some of the others and also happens to be a women (coincidence?) wrote about this boat we all love in the book Sailing Small: Inspiration and Instruction for the Pocket Cruiser. You may want to check it out. I don't think anyone has mentioned *http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 *in replies to your posts yet. It is a great place to identify where fellow rhodies have announced their presence. Some members have posted pictures of their boats too. Other than that, I will tell you that I am one of the unfortunate few that live in the land of the frozen tundra, where we got eight inches of fresh snow today. The good news is that Spring is in the air and the Madeline Island ferry is back in service after only three weeks off for ice in the Apostle Islands on Lake Superior. I am hopeful that I can hook the boat up to the truck and run up the road for a sail sooner than I had expected. I hope you stick around. Todd Z. Phillips, WI 1986 R22 (still haven't come up with a name yet that meets with the approval of my wife and two daughters yet). On 3/13/06, L. Sailor wrote: > > Thank you, thank you. Nothing like a little > initiation... > > Elle > > --- Hank wrote: > > > Elle, > > > > I second Rummy's comments below and add, like any > > family, you get all > > types. There's always the uncle (or cousin or > > brother or whatever) who, at > > times can be a royal PITA, but in the end we > > wouldn't go on without him (or > > her). > > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > Hank > > > > On 3/13/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com > > wrote: > > > > > > Elle, > > > This list is more like a family than any other > > sailing forum you will > > > experience. Since the list is actually supported > > (Michael owns and > > > operates the > > > list) by the owners, not the factory or Sailnet or > > anyone else, we tend to > > > be > > > more friendly than other lists. We do not bully > > newbies, but try to get > > > enough > > > information so that we can be on a first name > > basis. > > > Welcome to the family. > > > > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrummy > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From julie at circle7.net Mon Mar 13 21:26:45 2006 From: julie at circle7.net (Julie Thorndycraft) Date: Mon Mar 13 22:26:38 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy References: <20060314012934.70403.qmail@web36409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <39c52f6f0603131849w466b7281xe3f28b17cbc9cbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001b01c64717$1f52ae50$6701a8c0@DJC3YR81> Todd, A sailing friend suggested a name for a boat when he was over at our house. Oui Si Ya Yes yes yes in three languages - if you're sailing with three women, what could be more appropriate! Julie s/v Blue Loon Excelsior, MN - we got eight inches of the heavy white stuff, turned my morning commute into a two hour event. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Zumach" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy Elle, I just thought I would provide my two cents worth. First, welcome aboard! As a seasoned newbie (I joined this rag tag group last summer just before I purchased a used boat that I was fortunate enough to snap up two days after it became available), I have started to become immune to some of the sarcasm of the elders on the list. In spite of the gruff manner of these guys, I have learned a lot from them. The best advice I got from the all knowing ones is to search the archives for information covered in the past. I still haven't figured out the best way to search them, but I have enjoyed the reading. I do know you can use Google.com to search within the archives by using the following syntax: site:rhodes22.org XXXXXXX where the XXs represent the word or phrase you are searching for. Also, one of the other senior members who happens to not be as grumpy as some of the others and also happens to be a women (coincidence?) wrote about this boat we all love in the book Sailing Small: Inspiration and Instruction for the Pocket Cruiser. You may want to check it out. I don't think anyone has mentioned *http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 *in replies to your posts yet. It is a great place to identify where fellow rhodies have announced their presence. Some members have posted pictures of their boats too. Other than that, I will tell you that I am one of the unfortunate few that live in the land of the frozen tundra, where we got eight inches of fresh snow today. The good news is that Spring is in the air and the Madeline Island ferry is back in service after only three weeks off for ice in the Apostle Islands on Lake Superior. I am hopeful that I can hook the boat up to the truck and run up the road for a sail sooner than I had expected. I hope you stick around. Todd Z. Phillips, WI 1986 R22 (still haven't come up with a name yet that meets with the approval of my wife and two daughters yet). On 3/13/06, L. Sailor wrote: > > Thank you, thank you. Nothing like a little > initiation... > > Elle > > --- Hank wrote: > > > Elle, > > > > I second Rummy's comments below and add, like any > > family, you get all > > types. There's always the uncle (or cousin or > > brother or whatever) who, at > > times can be a royal PITA, but in the end we > > wouldn't go on without him (or > > her). > > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > Hank > > > > On 3/13/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com > > wrote: > > > > > > Elle, > > > This list is more like a family than any other > > sailing forum you will > > > experience. Since the list is actually supported > > (Michael owns and > > > operates the > > > list) by the owners, not the factory or Sailnet or > > anyone else, we tend to > > > be > > > more friendly than other lists. We do not bully > > newbies, but try to get > > > enough > > > information so that we can be on a first name > > basis. > > > Welcome to the family. > > > > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrummy > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From salm at mn.rr.com Tue Mar 14 00:09:30 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (Slim) Date: Tue Mar 14 01:01:04 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: <20060314012934.70403.qmail@web36409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Elle, Now that you've passed the initiation with flying colors, welcome! 8-) It won't be long before you, yourself are initiating the uninitiated. Just wait until some newbie comes onboard and asks us to remove her/him from the list. We (at least I) always have fun with that! Hope you enjoy your visit to GBI with your canine pal! I, myself, have never made the pilgrimage to Mecca but I hope to in the near future. BTW, How did you come to know Italian? Just got home (Minneapolis) from my California trip, spending the night and heading to Indiana tomorrow. 11" of fresh snow here--hope the roads are OK. Check out http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 Slim S/V Fandango P.S. None of us pay any attention to Ed. On 3/13/06 7:29 PM, "L. Sailor" wrote: > Thank you, thank you. Nothing like a little > initiation... > > Elle > > --- Hank wrote: > >> Elle, >> >> I second Rummy's comments below and add, like any >> family, you get all >> types. There's always the uncle (or cousin or >> brother or whatever) who, at >> times can be a royal PITA, but in the end we >> wouldn't go on without him (or >> her). >> >> Welcome aboard! >> >> Hank >> >> On 3/13/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com >> wrote: >>> >>> Elle, >>> This list is more like a family than any other >> sailing forum you will >>> experience. Since the list is actually supported >> (Michael owns and >>> operates the >>> list) by the owners, not the factory or Sailnet or >> anyone else, we tend to >>> be >>> more friendly than other lists. We do not bully >> newbies, but try to get >>> enough >>> information so that we can be on a first name >> basis. >>> Welcome to the family. >>> >>> Rrrrrrrrrrrummy >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? >> www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? >> www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From salm at mn.rr.com Tue Mar 14 00:22:31 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (Slim) Date: Tue Mar 14 01:14:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Elle, I forgot to ask about your address--I take it you like Baroque music. Care to share any details? Slim (Professional musician) On 3/14/06 12:09 AM, "Slim" wrote: > Elle, > > Now that you've passed the initiation with flying colors, welcome! 8-) > It won't be long before you, yourself are initiating the uninitiated. Just > wait until some newbie comes onboard and asks us to remove her/him from the > list. We (at least I) always have fun with that! > > Hope you enjoy your visit to GBI with your canine pal! I, myself, have > never made the pilgrimage to Mecca but I hope to in the near future. > > BTW, How did you come to know Italian? > > Just got home (Minneapolis) from my California trip, spending the night and > heading to Indiana tomorrow. 11" of fresh snow here--hope the roads are OK. > > Check out http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > > Slim > S/V Fandango > > P.S. None of us pay any attention to Ed. > > On 3/13/06 7:29 PM, "L. Sailor" wrote: > >> Thank you, thank you. Nothing like a little >> initiation... >> >> Elle >> >> --- Hank wrote: >> >>> Elle, >>> >>> I second Rummy's comments below and add, like any >>> family, you get all >>> types. There's always the uncle (or cousin or >>> brother or whatever) who, at >>> times can be a royal PITA, but in the end we >>> wouldn't go on without him (or >>> her). >>> >>> Welcome aboard! >>> >>> Hank >>> >>> On 3/13/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Elle, >>>> This list is more like a family than any other >>> sailing forum you will >>>> experience. Since the list is actually supported >>> (Michael owns and >>>> operates the >>>> list) by the owners, not the factory or Sailnet or >>> anyone else, we tend to >>>> be >>>> more friendly than other lists. We do not bully >>> newbies, but try to get >>>> enough >>>> information so that we can be on a first name >>> basis. >>>> Welcome to the family. >>>> >>>> Rrrrrrrrrrrummy >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? >>> www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? >>> www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From salm at mn.rr.com Tue Mar 14 01:02:01 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (Slim) Date: Tue Mar 14 01:53:28 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Member Message-ID: Todd T., "Walk the plank" is it ol' buddy? Remember when you were the new guy? IIRC You were baptized by fire! LOL 8-) Slim From steadilsr at verizon.net Tue Mar 14 07:57:52 2006 From: steadilsr at verizon.net (Lou Rosenberg) Date: Tue Mar 14 07:59:29 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] rhodes22.org UPDATE In-Reply-To: <002201c6470e$2ea35c50$0200a8c0@xp958> References: <002201c6470e$2ea35c50$0200a8c0@xp958> Message-ID: <487A0E29-57CA-4EC3-AF7F-3C5EFC5E4BE6@verizon.net> William when you get a chance .. I spell my last name ROSENBERG.. hey but any chance I can get to not be called a communist is a good day! :) no rush the link is GREAT much THANKS!!! btw: as long as Pihlaja is spelled right I am OK!! I kept on misspelling his last name on drafts. peace Lou On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:22 PM, William P. Barry, III wrote: > Find on the "tech" page of the rhodes22.org site a file on > Centerboard and Trunk Restoration. > > Will Barry > wp.barry@att.net > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From mltroy at verizon.net Tue Mar 14 08:49:41 2006 From: mltroy at verizon.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Tue Mar 14 08:49:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd, What's all this about a "senior" member? In-Reply-To: <39c52f6f0603131849w466b7281xe3f28b17cbc9cbc@mail.gmail.com > References: <20060314012934.70403.qmail@web36409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060314012934.70403.qmail@web36409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20060314084001.01de4980@incoming.verizon.net> I guess you've seen the pictures, oh well. In any event thanks for the plug - I take great pride in being "not as grumpy as some of the others". ;-) Speaking of Frappr, I refused to "join" and give them my contact info so I have been unable to move my pushpin from the slightly inland spot where it landed. While it's a couple of miles from where we keep the boat it's only about 1/2 a mile from the new house. Surprise, surprise. Mary Lou 1991 R22 Fretless Ft. Washington, PA / Rock Hall (Swan Creek), MD At 08:49 PM 3/13/2006 -0600, you wrote: >Elle, > >I just thought I would provide my two cents worth. First, welcome aboard! >As a seasoned newbie (I joined this rag tag group last summer just before I >purchased a used boat that I was fortunate enough to snap up two days after >it became available), I have started to become immune to some of the sarcasm >of the elders on the list. In spite of the gruff manner of these guys, I >have learned a lot from them. The best advice I got from the all knowing >ones is to search the archives for information covered in the past. I still >haven't figured out the best way to search them, but I have enjoyed the >reading. I do know you can use Google.com to search within the archives by >using the following syntax: site:rhodes22.org XXXXXXX where the XXs >represent the word or phrase you are searching for. > >Also, one of the other senior members who happens to not be as grumpy as >some of the others and also happens to be a women (coincidence?) wrote about >this boat we all love in the book Sailing Small: Inspiration and Instruction >for the Pocket >Cruiser. > You may want to check it out. > >I don't think anyone has mentioned *http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 *in >replies to your posts yet. It is a great place to identify where fellow >rhodies have announced their presence. Some members have posted pictures of >their boats too. > >Other than that, I will tell you that I am one of the unfortunate few that >live in the land of the frozen tundra, where we got eight inches of fresh >snow today. The good news is that Spring is in the air and the Madeline >Island ferry is back in service after only three weeks off for ice in the >Apostle Islands on Lake Superior. I am hopeful that I can hook the boat up >to the truck and run up the road for a sail sooner than I had expected. > >I hope you stick around. > >Todd Z. >Phillips, WI >1986 R22 (still haven't come up with a name yet that meets with the approval >of my wife and two daughters yet). > >On 3/13/06, L. Sailor wrote: > > > > Thank you, thank you. Nothing like a little > > initiation... > > > > Elle > > > > --- Hank wrote: > > > > > Elle, > > > > > > I second Rummy's comments below and add, like any > > > family, you get all > > > types. There's always the uncle (or cousin or > > > brother or whatever) who, at > > > times can be a royal PITA, but in the end we > > > wouldn't go on without him (or > > > her). > > > > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > Hank > > > > > > On 3/13/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Elle, > > > > This list is more like a family than any other > > > sailing forum you will > > > > experience. Since the list is actually supported > > > (Michael owns and > > > > operates the > > > > list) by the owners, not the factory or Sailnet or > > > anyone else, we tend to > > > > be > > > > more friendly than other lists. We do not bully > > > newbies, but try to get > > > > enough > > > > information so that we can be on a first name > > > basis. > > > > Welcome to the family. > > > > > > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrummy > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From wp.barry at att.net Tue Mar 14 10:57:39 2006 From: wp.barry at att.net (William P. Barry, III) Date: Tue Mar 14 10:57:23 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] rhodes22.org UPDATE References: <002201c6470e$2ea35c50$0200a8c0@xp958> <487A0E29-57CA-4EC3-AF7F-3C5EFC5E4BE6@verizon.net> Message-ID: <001101c64780$0b48bc60$0200a8c0@xp958> Consider it done... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Rosenberg" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] rhodes22.org UPDATE > William when you get a chance .. I spell my last name ROSENBERG.. hey > but any chance I can get to not be called a communist is a good day! :) > no rush the link is GREAT much THANKS!!! > btw: as long as Pihlaja is spelled right I am OK!! I kept on > misspelling his last name on drafts. > peace > Lou > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 9:22 PM, William P. Barry, III wrote: > >> Find on the "tech" page of the rhodes22.org site a file on >> Centerboard and Trunk Restoration. >> >> Will Barry >> wp.barry@att.net >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Tue Mar 14 08:07:56 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Tue Mar 14 11:08:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Will since your are doing rhodes22.org UPDATEs In-Reply-To: <001101c64780$0b48bc60$0200a8c0@xp958> References: <002201c6470e$2ea35c50$0200a8c0@xp958> <487A0E29-57CA-4EC3-AF7F-3C5EFC5E4BE6@verizon.net> <001101c64780$0b48bc60$0200a8c0@xp958> Message-ID: <3399372.post@talk.nabble.com> Will: 1. On the document page it still list Mark K as contact, I think he is bye bye. 2. On the RAC page it shows Plan Jam 2004 as a current event? 3. You might find a place to mention the Frappr site so that newbies like Elle can figure out they are in the center of Rhodes 22 waters. 4. On the document page is still says that Capt Robert Quinn is going to do something on sailing tips. You might ask him if this is true. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/rhodes22.org-UPDATE-t1276424.html#a3399372 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu Tue Mar 14 12:43:32 2006 From: lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu (Lou Rosenberg) Date: Tue Mar 14 12:47:06 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info In-Reply-To: <3399372.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <002201c6470e$2ea35c50$0200a8c0@xp958> <487A0E29-57CA-4EC3-AF7F-3C5EFC5E4BE6@verizon.net> <001101c64780$0b48bc60$0200a8c0@xp958> <3399372.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: > >Ed K/ Tootle, Rhodies, Well thanks to Will P. Barry and Roger Pihlaja I finally got around to listing my work online. The board is not quite finished as I need to shave it down a bit to make it totally retract for trailering, but that is minor compared to what has been done. All the drawings are mine and if you look VERY CAREFULLY, I refer to the L shaped patch in the trunk as being on the Port side, its actually Stb and my little 3D sketch is wrong! Not a big deal, but I am a Stanley Kubrick fan for details. Roger also helped me with an article I sent to Good Old Boat Magazine as a technical article but the editor turned it away because it deals with only one boat design. I am rewiring the boat and still waiting for warmer temps so I can glass in my new stringers and put my galley back together. Lou Rosenberg s/v (project boat) " Miracles " > >-- >View this message in context: >http://www.nabble.com/rhodes22.org-UPDATE-t1276424.html#a3399372 >Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From rlowe at vt.edu Tue Mar 14 13:27:54 2006 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Rob Lowe) Date: Tue Mar 14 13:27:56 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info References: <002201c6470e$2ea35c50$0200a8c0@xp958> <487A0E29-57CA-4EC3-AF7F-3C5EFC5E4BE6@verizon.net> <001101c64780$0b48bc60$0200a8c0@xp958> <3399372.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <013901c64795$02809c00$58ac52c6@ehss.vt.edu> Lou, Great article. Learned more about concrete than I ever knew before. I noticed the diagram on page 9 is pretty hard to read. don't know if you can do anything about it or not. - rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Rosenberg" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info > > > >Ed K/ Tootle, Rhodies, > > > Well thanks to Will P. Barry and Roger Pihlaja I finally got around > to listing my > work online. The board is not quite finished as I need to shave it > down a bit to make it totally retract for trailering, but that is > minor compared to what has been done. > > All the drawings are mine and if you look VERY CAREFULLY, I refer to > the L shaped patch in the trunk as being on the Port side, its > actually Stb and my little 3D sketch is wrong! > Not a big deal, but I am a Stanley Kubrick fan for details. > > Roger also helped me with an article I sent to Good Old Boat Magazine > as a technical article but the editor turned it away because it deals > with only one boat design. > > I am rewiring the boat and still waiting for warmer temps so I can > glass in my new stringers and put my galley back together. > > Lou Rosenberg > s/v (project boat) " Miracles " > > > > > > > > > >-- > >View this message in context: > >http://www.nabble.com/rhodes22.org-UPDATE-t1276424.html#a3399372 > >Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From wp.barry at att.net Tue Mar 14 18:34:44 2006 From: wp.barry at att.net (wp.barry@att.net) Date: Tue Mar 14 13:34:47 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info Message-ID: <031420061834.4568.44170CC40004AEFC000011D82158766755979D9D0E0DD29F99@att.net> That would be a technical error on my part. The conversion to PDF somehow went sour. I'll have to make another attempt at it later. Will Barry wp.barry@att.net -------------- Original message from "Rob Lowe" : -------------- > Lou, > Great article. Learned more about concrete than I ever knew before. I > noticed the diagram on page 9 is pretty hard to read. don't know if you can > do anything about it or not. - rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lou Rosenberg" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info > > > > > > > >Ed K/ Tootle, Rhodies, > > > > > > Well thanks to Will P. Barry and Roger Pihlaja I finally got around > > to listing my > > work online. The board is not quite finished as I need to shave it > > down a bit to make it totally retract for trailering, but that is > > minor compared to what has been done. > > > > All the drawings are mine and if you look VERY CAREFULLY, I refer to > > the L shaped patch in the trunk as being on the Port side, its > > actually Stb and my little 3D sketch is wrong! > > Not a big deal, but I am a Stanley Kubrick fan for details. > > > > Roger also helped me with an article I sent to Good Old Boat Magazine > > as a technical article but the editor turned it away because it deals > > with only one boat design. > > > > I am rewiring the boat and still waiting for warmer temps so I can > > glass in my new stringers and put my galley back together. > > > > Lou Rosenberg > > s/v (project boat) " Miracles " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >View this message in context: > > >http://www.nabble.com/rhodes22.org-UPDATE-t1276424.html#a3399372 > > >Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From bill at effros.com Tue Mar 14 20:40:40 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Tue Mar 14 20:40:25 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info In-Reply-To: <031420061834.4568.44170CC40004AEFC000011D82158766755979D9D0E0DD29F99@att.net> References: <031420061834.4568.44170CC40004AEFC000011D82158766755979D9D0E0DD29F99@att.net> Message-ID: <44177098.8040109@effros.com> Will, What are you converting with? Bill Effros wp.barry@att.net wrote: > That would be a technical error on my part. The conversion to PDF somehow went sour. I'll have to make another attempt at it later. > > Will Barry > wp.barry@att.net > > > > > -------------- Original message from "Rob Lowe" : -------------- > > > >> Lou, >> Great article. Learned more about concrete than I ever knew before. I >> noticed the diagram on page 9 is pretty hard to read. don't know if you can >> do anything about it or not. - rob >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lou Rosenberg" >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:43 PM >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info >> >> >> >>>> Ed K/ Tootle, Rhodies, >>>> >>> Well thanks to Will P. Barry and Roger Pihlaja I finally got around >>> to listing my >>> work online. The board is not quite finished as I need to shave it >>> down a bit to make it totally retract for trailering, but that is >>> minor compared to what has been done. >>> >>> All the drawings are mine and if you look VERY CAREFULLY, I refer to >>> the L shaped patch in the trunk as being on the Port side, its >>> actually Stb and my little 3D sketch is wrong! >>> Not a big deal, but I am a Stanley Kubrick fan for details. >>> >>> Roger also helped me with an article I sent to Good Old Boat Magazine >>> as a technical article but the editor turned it away because it deals >>> with only one boat design. >>> >>> I am rewiring the boat and still waiting for warmer temps so I can >>> glass in my new stringers and put my galley back together. >>> >>> Lou Rosenberg >>> s/v (project boat) " Miracles " >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://www.nabble.com/rhodes22.org-UPDATE-t1276424.html#a3399372 >>>> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From wp.barry at att.net Tue Mar 14 20:55:29 2006 From: wp.barry at att.net (William P. Barry, III) Date: Tue Mar 14 20:54:59 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info References: <031420061834.4568.44170CC40004AEFC000011D82158766755979D9D0E0DD29F99@att.net> <44177098.8040109@effros.com> Message-ID: <000801c647d3$89959130$0200a8c0@xp958> PrimoPDF...let me know if you know of something better thats free??? Will Barry wp.barry@att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info > Will, > > What are you converting with? > > Bill Effros > > wp.barry@att.net wrote: >> That would be a technical error on my part. The conversion to PDF somehow >> went sour. I'll have to make another attempt at it later. >> Will Barry >> wp.barry@att.net >> >> >> >> >> -------------- Original message from "Rob Lowe" >> : -------------- >> >> >> >>> Lou, Great article. Learned more about concrete than I ever knew before. >>> I noticed the diagram on page 9 is pretty hard to read. don't know if >>> you can do anything about it or not. - rob >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Lou Rosenberg" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Tuesday, March >>> 14, 2006 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration >>> info >>> >>> >>>>> Ed K/ Tootle, Rhodies, >>>> Well thanks to Will P. Barry and Roger Pihlaja I finally got around to >>>> listing my work online. The board is not quite finished as I need to >>>> shave it down a bit to make it totally retract for trailering, but that >>>> is minor compared to what has been done. >>>> All the drawings are mine and if you look VERY CAREFULLY, I refer to >>>> the L shaped patch in the trunk as being on the Port side, its actually >>>> Stb and my little 3D sketch is wrong! Not a big deal, but I am a >>>> Stanley Kubrick fan for details. >>>> Roger also helped me with an article I sent to Good Old Boat Magazine >>>> as a technical article but the editor turned it away because it deals >>>> with only one boat design. >>>> I am rewiring the boat and still waiting for warmer temps so I can >>>> glass in my new stringers and put my galley back together. >>>> Lou Rosenberg s/v (project boat) " Miracles " >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> http://www.nabble.com/rhodes22.org-UPDATE-t1276424.html#a3399372 Sent >>>>> from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >>>>> __________________________________________________ Use >>>>> Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ Use >>>> Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ Use >>> Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Tue Mar 14 18:01:02 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Tue Mar 14 21:01:08 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd Z's inappropriate remark In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20060314084001.01de4980@incoming.verizon.net> References: <4927384.1142217070287.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <20060313035312.93357.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <033501c6466e$35a524c0$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> <20060313150020.37096.qmail@web36415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2fa.75d175.3146e538@aol.com> <20060314012934.70403.qmail@web36409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <39c52f6f0603131849w466b7281xe3f28b17cbc9cbc@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20060314084001.01de4980@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <3408957.post@talk.nabble.com> Todd Z, It was very inappropriate to refer to Mary Lou's age... You should get your fingers slapped... Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-New-member%2C-R22-interest%2C-but-very-coy-t1270268.html#a3408957 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From bill at effros.com Tue Mar 14 21:12:45 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Tue Mar 14 21:12:27 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info In-Reply-To: <000801c647d3$89959130$0200a8c0@xp958> References: <031420061834.4568.44170CC40004AEFC000011D82158766755979D9D0E0DD29F99@att.net> <44177098.8040109@effros.com> <000801c647d3$89959130$0200a8c0@xp958> Message-ID: <4417781D.9030104@effros.com> Nuance makes a product for $79 that works very well. It is also sold as part of PaprPort, so it's free if you buy PaprPort. My guess is that list members would be willing to spot you the $79 if you would like to own this program. Before that I used something else, but I'll have to look to figure out what it was. I own several PDF converters, but the Nuance product (PDF Create or something like that) works best. Bill Effros William P. Barry, III wrote: > PrimoPDF...let me know if you know of something better thats free??? > > Will Barry > wp.barry@att.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info > > >> Will, >> >> What are you converting with? >> >> Bill Effros >> >> wp.barry@att.net wrote: >>> That would be a technical error on my part. The conversion to PDF >>> somehow went sour. I'll have to make another attempt at it later. >>> Will Barry >>> wp.barry@att.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------- Original message from "Rob Lowe" : >>> -------------- >>> >>> >>>> Lou, Great article. Learned more about concrete than I ever knew >>>> before. I noticed the diagram on page 9 is pretty hard to read. >>>> don't know if you can do anything about it or not. - rob >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Rosenberg" To: "The Rhodes >>>> 22 mail list" Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:43 PM Subject: Re: >>>> [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Ed K/ Tootle, Rhodies, >>>>> Well thanks to Will P. Barry and Roger Pihlaja I finally got >>>>> around to listing my work online. The board is not quite finished >>>>> as I need to shave it down a bit to make it totally retract for >>>>> trailering, but that is minor compared to what has been done. >>>>> All the drawings are mine and if you look VERY CAREFULLY, I refer >>>>> to the L shaped patch in the trunk as being on the Port side, its >>>>> actually Stb and my little 3D sketch is wrong! Not a big deal, but >>>>> I am a Stanley Kubrick fan for details. >>>>> Roger also helped me with an article I sent to Good Old Boat >>>>> Magazine as a technical article but the editor turned it away >>>>> because it deals with only one boat design. >>>>> I am rewiring the boat and still waiting for warmer temps so I can >>>>> glass in my new stringers and put my galley back together. >>>>> Lou Rosenberg s/v (project boat) " Miracles " >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/rhodes22.org-UPDATE-t1276424.html#a3399372 >>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >>>>>> __________________________________________________ Use >>>>>> Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ Use >>>>> Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ Use >>>> Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From wp.barry at att.net Tue Mar 14 21:16:38 2006 From: wp.barry at att.net (William P. Barry, III) Date: Tue Mar 14 21:16:07 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info References: <031420061834.4568.44170CC40004AEFC000011D82158766755979D9D0E0DD29F99@att.net> <44177098.8040109@effros.com><000801c647d3$89959130$0200a8c0@xp958> <4417781D.9030104@effros.com> Message-ID: <000601c647d6$7dc0d240$0200a8c0@xp958> I would just hate for people to go in on the product when i don't have all that much time to put into the project. It's usually very random but i can never guarantee anything. The only time i usually get thigns done right away is when someone submits a piece of info, and than i randomly place it on the r22 site. I just don't have the money myself to put in right now. Will Barry wp.barry@att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info > Nuance makes a product for $79 that works very well. It is also sold as > part of PaprPort, so it's free if you buy PaprPort. My guess is that list > members would be willing to spot you the $79 if you would like to own this > program. > > Before that I used something else, but I'll have to look to figure out > what it was. I own several PDF converters, but the Nuance product (PDF > Create or something like that) works best. > > Bill Effros > > William P. Barry, III wrote: >> PrimoPDF...let me know if you know of something better thats free??? >> >> Will Barry >> wp.barry@att.net >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:40 PM >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info >> >> >>> Will, >>> >>> What are you converting with? >>> >>> Bill Effros >>> >>> wp.barry@att.net wrote: >>>> That would be a technical error on my part. The conversion to PDF >>>> somehow went sour. I'll have to make another attempt at it later. >>>> Will Barry >>>> wp.barry@att.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------- Original message from "Rob Lowe" >>>> : -------------- >>>> >>>> >>>>> Lou, Great article. Learned more about concrete than I ever knew >>>>> before. I noticed the diagram on page 9 is pretty hard to read. don't >>>>> know if you can do anything about it or not. - rob >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Rosenberg" To: "The Rhodes 22 >>>>> mail list" Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:43 PM Subject: Re: >>>>> [Rhodes22-list] CB Trunk & CB restoration info >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Ed K/ Tootle, Rhodies, >>>>>> Well thanks to Will P. Barry and Roger Pihlaja I finally got around >>>>>> to listing my work online. The board is not quite finished as I need >>>>>> to shave it down a bit to make it totally retract for trailering, but >>>>>> that is minor compared to what has been done. >>>>>> All the drawings are mine and if you look VERY CAREFULLY, I refer to >>>>>> the L shaped patch in the trunk as being on the Port side, its >>>>>> actually Stb and my little 3D sketch is wrong! Not a big deal, but I >>>>>> am a Stanley Kubrick fan for details. >>>>>> Roger also helped me with an article I sent to Good Old Boat Magazine >>>>>> as a technical article but the editor turned it away because it deals >>>>>> with only one boat design. >>>>>> I am rewiring the boat and still waiting for warmer temps so I can >>>>>> glass in my new stringers and put my galley back together. >>>>>> Lou Rosenberg s/v (project boat) " Miracles " >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/rhodes22.org-UPDATE-t1276424.html#a3399372 >>>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >>>>>>> __________________________________________________ Use >>>>>>> Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> __________________________________________________ Use >>>>>> Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ Use >>>>> Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From dennis.gregoire at comcast.net Tue Mar 14 19:55:33 2006 From: dennis.gregoire at comcast.net (Dennis Gregoire) Date: Tue Mar 14 22:55:47 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member References: <20060312140604.86106.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com><44143393.8020206@effros.com> <3365065.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <003601c647e4$4fd8c640$5cfc1618@main> To Whom it may concern. Please remove me from your Rhodes 22 mailing list. I got the info I needed. Thanks. Dennis at dennis.gregoire@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tootle" To: Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:33 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member > > Is that a mr or ms new member? As Bill has indicated, more details... > some > of us are more persnictity than others. However, the details help answer > your questions. Little things mean a lot. > > Would you consider the Savannah River a tributary of the Chesapeake? > > Have you looked at the third party web site: > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > ??? > > Spill the Boston beans, tell us in detail, why are you here, what you > already know, what your budget is, and all the rest of the pertinent > details. > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/New-member-t1267726.html#a3365065 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From fredkaiser at verizon.net Tue Mar 14 23:03:37 2006 From: fredkaiser at verizon.net (Fred Kaiser) Date: Tue Mar 14 23:03:51 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member In-Reply-To: <003601c647e4$4fd8c640$5cfc1618@main> References: <20060312140604.86106.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44143393.8020206@effros.com> <3365065.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20060314230004.02c09350@incoming.verizon.net> At 07:55 PM 3/14/2006 -0800, you wrote: >To Whom it may concern. Please remove me from your Rhodes 22 mailing >list. I got the info I needed. Thanks. >Dennis at dennis.gregoire@comcast.net >----- Original Message ----- From: "Tootle" >To: >Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:33 AM >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member Dennis, no you didn't get all the info you needed, check the bottom of this message for instructions. Fred Kaiser Ft. Washington PA, Rock Hall MD 1991 R22 Fretless Swan Creek From zoomerzx at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 22:04:44 2006 From: zoomerzx at gmail.com (Todd Zumach) Date: Tue Mar 14 23:04:49 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd Z's Suplication Message-ID: <39c52f6f0603142004q420089ccwe3d5353a051282e@mail.gmail.com> Mary Lou, Truly there was no insult intended by my comment. I am just a young pup (at the age of 44) and look up to and respect those who have gone before me and parted seas of knowledge to make my path easier and more enjoyable. You have extensive experience and vast knowledge that I can only humbly hope you will share with those of us unworthy of your time. Ed, I would like to say thanks for setting me straight, but I won't ;-) Beware the ides of March (they killed one of them elder/leader types a couple of thousand years ago (and its my wife's birthday too). I am going to bed now, I am getting a little punchy... Capn Zzzzzz. On 3/14/06, Tootle wrote: > > > Todd Z, > It was very inappropriate to refer to Mary Lou's age... You should > get your fingers slapped... > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-New-member%2C-R22-interest%2C-but-very-coy-t1270268.html#a3408957 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 14 21:02:58 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Wed Mar 15 00:03:01 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: <39c52f6f0603131849w466b7281xe3f28b17cbc9cbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060315050258.96433.qmail@web36412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the tips, Todd, esp. on how to access the archive. As a long-time member of another sailing site, I know how annoying it is (and it really shouldn't be...there's that collective thing again...) to have the same questions over & over again. Often it is a lack of awareness of the archives & how to access them. Thanks again...anything to keep my b**t out of the line of fire...;^) PS ...why not use zoomerz as your boat name.... Elle --- Todd Zumach wrote: > Elle, > > I just thought I would provide my two cents worth. > First, welcome aboard! > As a seasoned newbie (I joined this rag tag group > last summer just before I > purchased a used boat that I was fortunate enough to > snap up two days after > it became available), I have started to become > immune to some of the sarcasm > of the elders on the list. In spite of the gruff > manner of these guys, I > have learned a lot from them. The best advice I got > from the all knowing > ones is to search the archives for information > covered in the past. I still > haven't figured out the best way to search them, but > I have enjoyed the > reading. I do know you can use Google.com to search > within the archives by > using the following syntax: site:rhodes22.org > XXXXXXX where the XXs > represent the word or phrase you are searching for. > > Also, one of the other senior members who happens to > not be as grumpy as > some of the others and also happens to be a women > (coincidence?) wrote about > this boat we all love in the book Sailing Small: > Inspiration and Instruction > for the Pocket > Cruiser. > You may want to check it out. > > I don't think anyone has mentioned > *http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 *in > replies to your posts yet. It is a great place to > identify where fellow > rhodies have announced their presence. Some members > have posted pictures of > their boats too. > > Other than that, I will tell you that I am one of > the unfortunate few that > live in the land of the frozen tundra, where we got > eight inches of fresh > snow today. The good news is that Spring is in the > air and the Madeline > Island ferry is back in service after only three > weeks off for ice in the > Apostle Islands on Lake Superior. I am hopeful that > I can hook the boat up > to the truck and run up the road for a sail sooner > than I had expected. > > I hope you stick around. > > Todd Z. > Phillips, WI > 1986 R22 (still haven't come up with a name yet that > meets with the approval > of my wife and two daughters yet). > > On 3/13/06, L. Sailor > wrote: > > > > Thank you, thank you. Nothing like a little > > initiation... > > > > Elle > > > > --- Hank wrote: > > > > > Elle, > > > > > > I second Rummy's comments below and add, like > any > > > family, you get all > > > types. There's always the uncle (or cousin or > > > brother or whatever) who, at > > > times can be a royal PITA, but in the end we > > > wouldn't go on without him (or > > > her). > > > > > > Welcome aboard! > > > > > > Hank > > > > > > On 3/13/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Elle, > > > > This list is more like a family than any other > > > sailing forum you will > > > > experience. Since the list is actually > supported > > > (Michael owns and > > > > operates the > > > > list) by the owners, not the factory or > Sailnet or > > > anyone else, we tend to > > > > be > > > > more friendly than other lists. We do not > bully > > > newbies, but try to get > > > > enough > > > > information so that we can be on a first name > > > basis. > > > > Welcome to the family. > > > > > > > > Rrrrrrrrrrrummy > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 14 21:15:18 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Wed Mar 15 00:15:21 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060315051518.77218.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> OK, Slim,..more nonessential info..my hubby was a trumpeter (ah..the embouchure)..nothing like a horn player ;^).....and a band director for 35 years. He also had a wonderful light baritone singing voice. We enjoyed all genre of music...I'd just hear a snippet of something & he'd know what it was. Baroque was one of our favorites, with everything else (except rap) running a close second. There's more, but that's enuf for now. Elle --- Slim wrote: > Elle, > > I forgot to ask about your address--I take it you > like Baroque music. Care > to share any details? > > Slim (Professional musician) > > On 3/14/06 12:09 AM, "Slim" wrote: > > > Elle, > > > > Now that you've passed the initiation with flying > colors, welcome! 8-) > > It won't be long before you, yourself are > initiating the uninitiated. Just > > wait until some newbie comes onboard and asks us > to remove her/him from the > > list. We (at least I) always have fun with that! > > > > Hope you enjoy your visit to GBI with your canine > pal! I, myself, have > > never made the pilgrimage to Mecca but I hope to > in the near future. > > > > BTW, How did you come to know Italian? > > > > Just got home (Minneapolis) from my California > trip, spending the night and > > heading to Indiana tomorrow. 11" of fresh snow > here--hope the roads are OK. > > > > Check out http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > > > > Slim > > S/V Fandango > > > > P.S. None of us pay any attention to Ed. > > > > On 3/13/06 7:29 PM, "L. Sailor" > wrote: > > > >> Thank you, thank you. Nothing like a little > >> initiation... > >> > >> Elle > >> > >> --- Hank wrote: > >> > >>> Elle, > >>> > >>> I second Rummy's comments below and add, like > any > >>> family, you get all > >>> types. There's always the uncle (or cousin or > >>> brother or whatever) who, at > >>> times can be a royal PITA, but in the end we > >>> wouldn't go on without him (or > >>> her). > >>> > >>> Welcome aboard! > >>> > >>> Hank > >>> > >>> On 3/13/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Elle, > >>>> This list is more like a family than any other > >>> sailing forum you will > >>>> experience. Since the list is actually > supported > >>> (Michael owns and > >>>> operates the > >>>> list) by the owners, not the factory or Sailnet > or > >>> anyone else, we tend to > >>>> be > >>>> more friendly than other lists. We do not bully > >>> newbies, but try to get > >>>> enough > >>>> information so that we can be on a first name > >>> basis. > >>>> Welcome to the family. > >>>> > >>>> Rrrrrrrrrrrummy > >>>> > __________________________________________________ > >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > >>> www.rhodes22.org/list > >>>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ > >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > >>> www.rhodes22.org/list > >>> > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From napoli68 at charter.net Tue Mar 14 23:39:51 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Wed Mar 15 02:19:21 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip References: <18995193.1142253717224.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <004201c64803$a55a5420$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Dear Art, We just waited for a couple of days of southerlies and a good weather window. The crossing was "uneventful" from a technical standpoint, 4-6' seas SSE winds about 15 knots, scattered thunderheads. It was however, one of the most beautiful night sails I'v done; a full moon and great light show from the T-storms which were widly scattered and easy to avoid. Not to mentioned the sense of satisfaction (and relief) of making the successful passage. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:41 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > Chris, > That sounds nice. I have heard of so many crossing the stream that get roughed up when their boat did not perform well. Did you encounter much wave action, and how did the boat handle? > Cheers, > Art > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Chris Geankoplis > >Sent: Mar 13, 2006 1:17 AM > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > > >Bill, > > I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. Your Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to Bimini then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and south again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands including Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. > > > >Chris Geankoplis > >S/V Enosis > >Medford, OR > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From napoli68 at charter.net Wed Mar 15 00:11:41 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Wed Mar 15 02:51:13 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip References: Message-ID: <005601c64808$1919d760$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Dear Bill, I've lost a lot of info because of the dead hardrive, however I'll do my best. We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) and gave them to a returning powerboater and picked them up later in Ft. Lauderdale. Boy was I glad I had: 45watt solar panel A good sunshade and side panels Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything there) Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and salt filled, it really fouled the plugs) Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come by) A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a handheld to talk to the boat from shore. A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The Island" to read out loud and scare the hell out of the listeners! I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which was the old yachtsman foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on Pop-Eye's arm). All the anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 strand. I also always anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost always dove down to hand set if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong and switch back and forth) also expect a large and very territorial baraccuda to check you out as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja and it worked fine also. I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 person max inflatable that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would have been nice to have had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. (not sure where I would have put it). It might be of help if you check out the "Baja Prelim" in the archives. The trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep and type of equipment I used for the Bahamas trip. Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. Anchor on the south side and then hike north, but dress up as if you were a tourist off a cruise boat. If you time it right on the north side of the island is a big beach owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have big BBQ's on the beach (free of course to the guest on the ships) Just exit the scrub jungle as yo u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots of BBQ and food and charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding about charging the drinks). My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank ourselvs full. Then the local serving lady filled a bag with left over food and Ice for our boat. We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and pointed out that "Dem cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of de island. Chris G ----- Original Message ----- From: "William E. Wickman" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This trip is doubly special for > me because it is the last bonding experience with my son before he goes off > to college. I will probably not have as much time with him collectively > for the next 4 years as I will have on this one trip. I was hoping to > stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 months) but alas, my son has > a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away camp so I'll be limited > to two weeks; besides the fact that I would probably lose my job if I took > longer. > > I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then on to the Berry Islands. > If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may sail over to Providence to > visit my wife and two daughters who will be there for a week while one of > my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin Encounters. A story, and the > genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not bore you with. One > cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not have a scheduled > itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. > > Since you have been there, done that, I have a few of questions for you: > > What things did you not take that you wish you had? > > What things did you take that you found you did not need? > > Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus a small one for my > dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or did you find need for a > plow type? > > Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece of equipment? I have read > that they are, but most of the people that say so were large boats with > deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. > > Thanks, > Bill W. > > > > > > > "Chris > Geankoplis" > .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent by: > rhodes22-list-bou cc > nces@rhodes22.org > Subject > [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > 03/13/2006 01:17 > AM > > > Please respond to > The Rhodes 22 > mail list > odes22.org> > > > > > > > Bill, > I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. Your > Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and > liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to Bimini > then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to > Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and south > again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands including > Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return > trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. > > Chris Geankoplis > S/V Enosis > Medford, OR > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From trpclman at yahoo.com Wed Mar 15 04:25:24 2006 From: trpclman at yahoo.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Wed Mar 15 07:25:28 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip In-Reply-To: <005601c64808$1919d760$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Message-ID: <20060315122525.16388.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Chris, I love your stories. I think that you should write a guide to cruising the Bahamas in a small (but confortable) boat. I'll interested in getting more tips as I'm planning in doing so in the near future. It's more, I would love go go island hoping all the way down to Venezuela. Luis S/V Miracle Chris Geankoplis wrote: Dear Bill, I've lost a lot of info because of the dead hardrive, however I'll do my best. We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) and gave them to a returning powerboater and picked them up later in Ft. Lauderdale. Boy was I glad I had: 45watt solar panel A good sunshade and side panels Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything there) Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and salt filled, it really fouled the plugs) Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come by) A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a handheld to talk to the boat from shore. A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The Island" to read out loud and scare the hell out of the listeners! I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which was the old yachtsman foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on Pop-Eye's arm). All the anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 strand. I also always anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost always dove down to hand set if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong and switch back and forth) also expect a large and very territorial baraccuda to check you out as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja and it worked fine also. I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 person max inflatable that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would have been nice to have had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. (not sure where I would have put it). It might be of help if you check out the "Baja Prelim" in the archives. The trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep and type of equipment I used for the Bahamas trip. Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. Anchor on the south side and then hike north, but dress up as if you were a tourist off a cruise boat. If you time it right on the north side of the island is a big beach owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have big BBQ's on the beach (free of course to the guest on the ships) Just exit the scrub jungle as yo u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots of BBQ and food and charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding about charging the drinks). My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank ourselvs full. Then the local serving lady filled a bag with left over food and Ice for our boat. We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and pointed out that "Dem cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of de island. Chris G ----- Original Message ----- From: "William E. Wickman" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This trip is doubly special for > me because it is the last bonding experience with my son before he goes off > to college. I will probably not have as much time with him collectively > for the next 4 years as I will have on this one trip. I was hoping to > stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 months) but alas, my son has > a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away camp so I'll be limited > to two weeks; besides the fact that I would probably lose my job if I took > longer. > > I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then on to the Berry Islands. > If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may sail over to Providence to > visit my wife and two daughters who will be there for a week while one of > my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin Encounters. A story, and the > genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not bore you with. One > cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not have a scheduled > itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. > > Since you have been there, done that, I have a few of questions for you: > > What things did you not take that you wish you had? > > What things did you take that you found you did not need? > > Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus a small one for my > dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or did you find need for a > plow type? > > Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece of equipment? I have read > that they are, but most of the people that say so were large boats with > deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. > > Thanks, > Bill W. > > > > > > > "Chris > Geankoplis" > > .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent by: > rhodes22-list-bou cc > nces@rhodes22.org > Subject > [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > 03/13/2006 01:17 > AM > > > Please respond to > The Rhodes 22 > mail list > > odes22.org> > > > > > > > Bill, > I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. Your > Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and > liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to Bimini > then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to > Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and south > again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands including > Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return > trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. > > Chris Geankoplis > S/V Enosis > Medford, OR > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list --------------------------------- Yahoo! Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! From bill at effros.com Wed Mar 15 08:40:12 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Wed Mar 15 08:39:55 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Dinghy Motor In-Reply-To: <005601c64808$1919d760$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> References: <005601c64808$1919d760$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Message-ID: <4418193C.10707@effros.com> Chris, Small electric trolling motors can push around dinghys very easily and fit in the laz. Small gel cell or agm bats can be stowed on board and recharged either on board or on shore. The motors are very efficient, and as the batteries drain they just go slower, but you stop using them long before they completely drain the bats. You go at roughly the same speed you would go if you were rowing. Bill Effros Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Dear Bill, > I've lost a lot of info because of the dead hardrive, however > I'll do my best. > > We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) and gave them to a > returning powerboater and picked them up later in Ft. Lauderdale. > > Boy was I glad I had: > 45watt solar panel > A good sunshade and side panels > Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything there) > Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and salt filled, it really > fouled the plugs) > Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come by) > A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a handheld to talk to the > boat from shore. > A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The Island" to read out loud and > scare the hell out of the listeners! > > I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which was the old yachtsman > foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on Pop-Eye's arm). All the > anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 strand. I also always > anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost always dove down to hand set > if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong and switch back and > forth) also expect a large and very territorial baraccuda to check you out > as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja and it worked fine also. > > I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 person max inflatable > that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would have been nice to have > had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. (not sure where I would > have put it). > > It might be of help if you check out the "Baja Prelim" in the archives. The > trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep and type of equipment I > used for the Bahamas trip. > > Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. Anchor on the south > side and then hike north, but dress up as if you were a tourist off a cruise > boat. If you time it right on the north side of the island is a big beach > owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have big BBQ's on the beach > (free of course to the guest on the ships) Just exit the scrub jungle as yo > u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots of BBQ and food and > charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding about charging the drinks). > My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank ourselvs full. Then the > local serving lady filled a bag with left over food and Ice for our boat. > We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and pointed out that "Dem > cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of de island. > > Chris G > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William E. Wickman" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > > >> Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This trip is doubly special for >> me because it is the last bonding experience with my son before he goes >> > off > >> to college. I will probably not have as much time with him collectively >> for the next 4 years as I will have on this one trip. I was hoping to >> stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 months) but alas, my son >> > has > >> a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away camp so I'll be limited >> to two weeks; besides the fact that I would probably lose my job if I took >> longer. >> >> I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then on to the Berry >> > Islands. > >> If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may sail over to Providence >> > to > >> visit my wife and two daughters who will be there for a week while one of >> my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin Encounters. A story, and the >> genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not bore you with. One >> cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not have a scheduled >> itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. >> >> Since you have been there, done that, I have a few of questions for you: >> >> What things did you not take that you wish you had? >> >> What things did you take that you found you did not need? >> >> Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus a small one for my >> dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or did you find need for a >> plow type? >> >> Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece of equipment? I have >> > read > >> that they are, but most of the people that say so were large boats with >> deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. >> >> Thanks, >> Bill W. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Chris >> Geankoplis" >> > .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >> Sent by: >> rhodes22-list-bou cc >> nces@rhodes22.org >> Subject >> [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip >> 03/13/2006 01:17 >> AM >> >> >> Please respond to >> The Rhodes 22 >> mail list >> > odes22.org> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bill, >> I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. Your >> Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and >> liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to Bimini >> then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to >> Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and south >> again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands including >> Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return >> trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. >> >> Chris Geankoplis >> S/V Enosis >> Medford, OR >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From wewickman at duke-energy.com Wed Mar 15 09:24:09 2006 From: wewickman at duke-energy.com (William E. Wickman) Date: Wed Mar 15 09:24:32 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip In-Reply-To: <005601c64808$1919d760$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Message-ID: Thanks Chris. I'll echo the prior comment that you have great gift for writing. I really enjoyed your Baja log. I'll go back and re-read the intro. Two more questions just popped in my head. Did you have a depth sounder, and did you find that you wanted/needed one? Did you ever find it buggy (ie. would no-seeum netting be of any use)? Bill W. "Chris Geankoplis" "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent by: rhodes22-list-bou cc nces@rhodes22.org Subject Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama 03/15/2006 03:11 Trip AM Please respond to The Rhodes 22 mail list Dear Bill, I've lost a lot of info because of the dead hardrive, however I'll do my best. We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) and gave them to a returning powerboater and picked them up later in Ft. Lauderdale. Boy was I glad I had: 45watt solar panel A good sunshade and side panels Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything there) Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and salt filled, it really fouled the plugs) Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come by) A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a handheld to talk to the boat from shore. A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The Island" to read out loud and scare the hell out of the listeners! I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which was the old yachtsman foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on Pop-Eye's arm). All the anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 strand. I also always anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost always dove down to hand set if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong and switch back and forth) also expect a large and very territorial baraccuda to check you out as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja and it worked fine also. I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 person max inflatable that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would have been nice to have had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. (not sure where I would have put it). It might be of help if you check out the "Baja Prelim" in the archives. The trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep and type of equipment I used for the Bahamas trip. Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. Anchor on the south side and then hike north, but dress up as if you were a tourist off a cruise boat. If you time it right on the north side of the island is a big beach owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have big BBQ's on the beach (free of course to the guest on the ships) Just exit the scrub jungle as yo u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots of BBQ and food and charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding about charging the drinks). My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank ourselvs full. Then the local serving lady filled a bag with left over food and Ice for our boat. We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and pointed out that "Dem cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of de island. Chris G ----- Original Message ----- From: "William E. Wickman" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This trip is doubly special for > me because it is the last bonding experience with my son before he goes off > to college. I will probably not have as much time with him collectively > for the next 4 years as I will have on this one trip. I was hoping to > stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 months) but alas, my son has > a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away camp so I'll be limited > to two weeks; besides the fact that I would probably lose my job if I took > longer. > > I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then on to the Berry Islands. > If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may sail over to Providence to > visit my wife and two daughters who will be there for a week while one of > my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin Encounters. A story, and the > genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not bore you with. One > cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not have a scheduled > itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. > > Since you have been there, done that, I have a few of questions for you: > > What things did you not take that you wish you had? > > What things did you take that you found you did not need? > > Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus a small one for my > dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or did you find need for a > plow type? > > Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece of equipment? I have read > that they are, but most of the people that say so were large boats with > deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. > > Thanks, > Bill W. > > > > > > > "Chris > Geankoplis" > .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent by: > rhodes22-list-bou cc > nces@rhodes22.org > Subject > [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > 03/13/2006 01:17 > AM > > > Please respond to > The Rhodes 22 > mail list > odes22.org> > > > > > > > Bill, > I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. Your > Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and > liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to Bimini > then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to > Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and south > again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands including > Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return > trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. > > Chris Geankoplis > S/V Enosis > Medford, OR > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From trpclwife at yahoo.com Wed Mar 15 08:08:54 2006 From: trpclwife at yahoo.com (Julia Guzman) Date: Wed Mar 15 11:09:00 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip In-Reply-To: <005601c64808$1919d760$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Message-ID: <20060315160855.58616.qmail@web33504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Chris, Sounds like you are a very experienced sailor and able to find adventure every day. You also seem to know how to plan well for these trips. Both are key to the success you experience I am sure. I agree that you should be writing a guide. I am a writer and a publicist, and would be happy to work with you if you ever decide to do so. Until then, I will continue to enjoy your stories on the list. My personal goal is to first learn to sail well enough to get from Sarasota Bay to the Keys. After that, we shall see. Kindly, Julia G. --- Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Dear Bill, > I've lost a lot of info because of the > dead hardrive, however > I'll do my best. > > We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) > and gave them to a > returning powerboater and picked them up later in > Ft. Lauderdale. > > Boy was I glad I had: > 45watt solar panel > A good sunshade and side panels > Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything > there) > Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and > salt filled, it really > fouled the plugs) > Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come > by) > A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a > handheld to talk to the > boat from shore. > A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The > Island" to read out loud and > scare the hell out of the listeners! > > I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which > was the old yachtsman > foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on > Pop-Eye's arm). All the > anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 > strand. I also always > anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost > always dove down to hand set > if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong > and switch back and > forth) also expect a large and very territorial > baraccuda to check you out > as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja > and it worked fine also. > > I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 > person max inflatable > that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would > have been nice to have > had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. > (not sure where I would > have put it). > > It might be of help if you check out the "Baja > Prelim" in the archives. The > trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep > and type of equipment I > used for the Bahamas trip. > > Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. > Anchor on the south > side and then hike north, but dress up as if you > were a tourist off a cruise > boat. If you time it right on the north side of the > island is a big beach > owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have > big BBQ's on the beach > (free of course to the guest on the ships) Just > exit the scrub jungle as yo > u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots > of BBQ and food and > charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding > about charging the drinks). > My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank > ourselvs full. Then the > local serving lady filled a bag with left over food > and Ice for our boat. > We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and > pointed out that "Dem > cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of > de island. > > Chris G > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William E. Wickman" > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > > > > > Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This > trip is doubly special for > > me because it is the last bonding experience with > my son before he goes > off > > to college. I will probably not have as much time > with him collectively > > for the next 4 years as I will have on this one > trip. I was hoping to > > stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 > months) but alas, my son > has > > a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away > camp so I'll be limited > > to two weeks; besides the fact that I would > probably lose my job if I took > > longer. > > > > I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then > on to the Berry > Islands. > > If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may > sail over to Providence > to > > visit my wife and two daughters who will be there > for a week while one of > > my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin > Encounters. A story, and the > > genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not > bore you with. One > > cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not > have a scheduled > > itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. > > > > Since you have been there, done that, I have a few > of questions for you: > > > > What things did you not take that you wish you > had? > > > > What things did you take that you found you did > not need? > > > > Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus > a small one for my > > dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or > did you find need for a > > plow type? > > > > Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece > of equipment? I have > read > > that they are, but most of the people that say so > were large boats with > > deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. > > > > Thanks, > > Bill W. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Chris > > Geankoplis" > > To > > .net> "The Rhodes > 22 mail list" > > Sent by: > > > rhodes22-list-bou > cc > > nces@rhodes22.org > > > Subject > > > [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > 03/13/2006 01:17 > > AM > > > > > > Please respond to > > The Rhodes 22 > > mail list > > > odes22.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > I missed your original statement about a > trip to the Bahamas. Your > > Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on > my previous Rhodes and > > liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 > months. I Sailed to Bimini > > then Berry islands (some cool stuff > there)-Providence to Eluthra back to > > Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back > to Providence and south > > again to Georgetown then Back north to the > northernmost islands including > > Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to > Gun Cay for the return > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Wed Mar 15 10:39:48 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Wed Mar 15 11:39:56 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Chris, your not getting off the hook that easy. Inquiring / dreaming / freezing minds want to know. My first question is where did you depart from? Bob W. >From: "William E. Wickman" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:24:09 -0500 > > >Thanks Chris. I'll echo the prior comment that you have great gift for >writing. I really enjoyed your Baja log. I'll go back and re-read the >intro. > >Two more questions just popped in my head. Did you have a depth sounder, >and did you find that you wanted/needed one? Did you ever find it buggy >(ie. would no-seeum netting be of any use)? > >Bill W. > > > > > > "Chris > Geankoplis" > .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent by: > rhodes22-list-bou cc > nces@rhodes22.org > Subject > Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama > 03/15/2006 03:11 Trip > AM > > > Please respond to > The Rhodes 22 > mail list > odes22.org> > > > > > > >Dear Bill, > I've lost a lot of info because of the dead hardrive, however >I'll do my best. > >We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) and gave them to a >returning powerboater and picked them up later in Ft. Lauderdale. > >Boy was I glad I had: >45watt solar panel >A good sunshade and side panels >Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything there) >Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and salt filled, it really >fouled the plugs) >Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come by) >A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a handheld to talk to the >boat from shore. >A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The Island" to read out loud and >scare the hell out of the listeners! > >I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which was the old yachtsman >foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on Pop-Eye's arm). All the >anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 strand. I also always >anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost always dove down to hand >set >if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong and switch back and >forth) also expect a large and very territorial baraccuda to check you out >as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja and it worked fine >also. > >I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 person max inflatable >that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would have been nice to have >had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. (not sure where I would >have put it). > >It might be of help if you check out the "Baja Prelim" in the archives. >The >trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep and type of equipment I >used for the Bahamas trip. > >Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. Anchor on the south >side and then hike north, but dress up as if you were a tourist off a >cruise >boat. If you time it right on the north side of the island is a big beach >owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have big BBQ's on the beach >(free of course to the guest on the ships) Just exit the scrub jungle as >yo >u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots of BBQ and food and >charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding about charging the >drinks). >My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank ourselvs full. Then >the >local serving lady filled a bag with left over food and Ice for our boat. >We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and pointed out that "Dem >cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of de island. > >Chris G > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "William E. Wickman" >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > > > > > Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This trip is doubly special >for > > me because it is the last bonding experience with my son before he goes >off > > to college. I will probably not have as much time with him collectively > > for the next 4 years as I will have on this one trip. I was hoping to > > stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 months) but alas, my son >has > > a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away camp so I'll be >limited > > to two weeks; besides the fact that I would probably lose my job if I >took > > longer. > > > > I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then on to the Berry >Islands. > > If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may sail over to Providence >to > > visit my wife and two daughters who will be there for a week while one >of > > my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin Encounters. A story, and the > > genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not bore you with. One > > cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not have a scheduled > > itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. > > > > Since you have been there, done that, I have a few of questions for you: > > > > What things did you not take that you wish you had? > > > > What things did you take that you found you did not need? > > > > Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus a small one for my > > dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or did you find need for >a > > plow type? > > > > Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece of equipment? I have >read > > that they are, but most of the people that say so were large boats with > > deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. > > > > Thanks, > > Bill W. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Chris > > Geankoplis" > > To > > .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Sent by: > > rhodes22-list-bou >cc > > nces@rhodes22.org > > >Subject > > [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama >Trip > > 03/13/2006 01:17 > > AM > > > > > > Please respond to > > The Rhodes 22 > > mail list > > > odes22.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. >Your > > Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and > > liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to >Bimini > > then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to > > Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and >south > > again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands >including > > Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return > > trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > S/V Enosis > > Medford, OR > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From zoomerzx at gmail.com Wed Mar 15 19:01:37 2006 From: zoomerzx at gmail.com (Todd Zumach) Date: Wed Mar 15 20:01:42 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: <20060315051518.77218.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060315051518.77218.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <39c52f6f0603151701t64cccd46v616f0ced99807863@mail.gmail.com> Elle, Good idea for the boat name. However, I think it will get vetoed by the Admiral. I got to name the last boat (a 1975 South Coast 22) "Z Breeze". I thought it was a great name, the women of the house disagreed. Then, last Father's Day went we went out to sail and found the boat sunk at the dock, my wife took it as an omen. So now, I have to get unanimous consent. I do like Oui Si Ya that Julie suggested on another thread. Capn Z Phillips, WI On 3/14/06, L. Sailor wrote: > > > OK, Slim,..more nonessential info..my hubby was a > trumpeter (ah..the embouchure)..nothing like a horn > player ;^).....and a band director for 35 years. He > also had a wonderful light baritone singing voice. We > enjoyed all genre of music...I'd just hear a snippet > of something & he'd know what it was. Baroque was one > of our favorites, with everything else (except rap) > running a close second. There's more, but that's enuf > for now. > > Elle > --- Slim wrote: > > > Elle, > > > > I forgot to ask about your address--I take it you > > like Baroque music. Care > > to share any details? > > > > Slim (Professional musician) > > > > On 3/14/06 12:09 AM, "Slim" wrote: > > > > > Elle, > > > > > > Now that you've passed the initiation with flying > > colors, welcome! 8-) > > > It won't be long before you, yourself are > > initiating the uninitiated. Just > > > wait until some newbie comes onboard and asks us > > to remove her/him from the > > > list. We (at least I) always have fun with that! > > > > > > Hope you enjoy your visit to GBI with your canine > > pal! I, myself, have > > > never made the pilgrimage to Mecca but I hope to > > in the near future. > > > > > > BTW, How did you come to know Italian? > > > > > > Just got home (Minneapolis) from my California > > trip, spending the night and > > > heading to Indiana tomorrow. 11" of fresh snow > > here--hope the roads are OK. > > > > > > Check out http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > > > > > > Slim > > > S/V Fandango > > > > > > P.S. None of us pay any attention to Ed. > > > > > > On 3/13/06 7:29 PM, "L. Sailor" > > wrote: > > > > > >> Thank you, thank you. Nothing like a little > > >> initiation... > > >> > > >> Elle > > >> > > >> --- Hank wrote: > > >> > > >>> Elle, > > >>> > > >>> I second Rummy's comments below and add, like > > any > > >>> family, you get all > > >>> types. There's always the uncle (or cousin or > > >>> brother or whatever) who, at > > >>> times can be a royal PITA, but in the end we > > >>> wouldn't go on without him (or > > >>> her). > > >>> > > >>> Welcome aboard! > > >>> > > >>> Hank > > >>> > > >>> On 3/13/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Elle, > > >>>> This list is more like a family than any other > > >>> sailing forum you will > > >>>> experience. Since the list is actually > > supported > > >>> (Michael owns and > > >>>> operates the > > >>>> list) by the owners, not the factory or Sailnet > > or > > >>> anyone else, we tend to > > >>>> be > > >>>> more friendly than other lists. 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Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From napoli68 at charter.net Wed Mar 15 19:15:51 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Wed Mar 15 21:55:21 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Dinghy Motor References: <005601c64808$1919d760$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> <4418193C.10707@effros.com> Message-ID: <001301c648a7$eea3fa60$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Hey Bill, I wonder why I didn't think of that. Shoot, my current 55w panel would take care of all my boat needs and dingy needs too! I'll look into it. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:40 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Dinghy Motor > Chris, > > Small electric trolling motors can push around dinghys very easily and > fit in the laz. Small gel cell or agm bats can be stowed on board and > recharged either on board or on shore. The motors are very efficient, > and as the batteries drain they just go slower, but you stop using them > long before they completely drain the bats. > > You go at roughly the same speed you would go if you were rowing. > > Bill Effros > > Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > Dear Bill, > > I've lost a lot of info because of the dead hardrive, however > > I'll do my best. > > > > We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) and gave them to a > > returning powerboater and picked them up later in Ft. Lauderdale. > > > > Boy was I glad I had: > > 45watt solar panel > > A good sunshade and side panels > > Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything there) > > Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and salt filled, it really > > fouled the plugs) > > Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come by) > > A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a handheld to talk to the > > boat from shore. > > A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The Island" to read out loud and > > scare the hell out of the listeners! > > > > I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which was the old yachtsman > > foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on Pop-Eye's arm). All the > > anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 strand. I also always > > anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost always dove down to hand set > > if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong and switch back and > > forth) also expect a large and very territorial baraccuda to check you out > > as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja and it worked fine also. > > > > I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 person max inflatable > > that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would have been nice to have > > had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. (not sure where I would > > have put it). > > > > It might be of help if you check out the "Baja Prelim" in the archives. The > > trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep and type of equipment I > > used for the Bahamas trip. > > > > Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. Anchor on the south > > side and then hike north, but dress up as if you were a tourist off a cruise > > boat. If you time it right on the north side of the island is a big beach > > owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have big BBQ's on the beach > > (free of course to the guest on the ships) Just exit the scrub jungle as yo > > u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots of BBQ and food and > > charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding about charging the drinks). > > My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank ourselvs full. Then the > > local serving lady filled a bag with left over food and Ice for our boat. > > We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and pointed out that "Dem > > cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of de island. > > > > Chris G > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William E. Wickman" > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > > > > > > >> Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This trip is doubly special for > >> me because it is the last bonding experience with my son before he goes > >> > > off > > > >> to college. I will probably not have as much time with him collectively > >> for the next 4 years as I will have on this one trip. I was hoping to > >> stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 months) but alas, my son > >> > > has > > > >> a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away camp so I'll be limited > >> to two weeks; besides the fact that I would probably lose my job if I took > >> longer. > >> > >> I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then on to the Berry > >> > > Islands. > > > >> If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may sail over to Providence > >> > > to > > > >> visit my wife and two daughters who will be there for a week while one of > >> my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin Encounters. A story, and the > >> genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not bore you with. One > >> cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not have a scheduled > >> itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. > >> > >> Since you have been there, done that, I have a few of questions for you: > >> > >> What things did you not take that you wish you had? > >> > >> What things did you take that you found you did not need? > >> > >> Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus a small one for my > >> dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or did you find need for a > >> plow type? > >> > >> Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece of equipment? I have > >> > > read > > > >> that they are, but most of the people that say so were large boats with > >> deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Bill W. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "Chris > >> Geankoplis" > >> >> .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >> Sent by: > >> rhodes22-list-bou cc > >> nces@rhodes22.org > >> Subject > >> [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > >> 03/13/2006 01:17 > >> AM > >> > >> > >> Please respond to > >> The Rhodes 22 > >> mail list > >> >> odes22.org> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Bill, > >> I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. Your > >> Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and > >> liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to Bimini > >> then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to > >> Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and south > >> again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands including > >> Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return > >> trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. > >> > >> Chris Geankoplis > >> S/V Enosis > >> Medford, OR > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > >> > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From napoli68 at charter.net Wed Mar 15 19:14:16 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Wed Mar 15 21:56:29 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip References: <20060315122525.16388.qmail@web54504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000d01c648a7$b5f97280$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Louis, Let me know when you go I'll crew for you. Also we can stay with my sister in Granada, she has a couple of businesses there! G-dog ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luis Guzman" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > Chris, > > I love your stories. > > I think that you should write a guide to cruising the Bahamas in a small (but confortable) boat. I'll interested in getting more tips as I'm planning in doing so in the near future. It's more, I would love go go island hoping all the way down to Venezuela. > > Luis > > S/V Miracle > > Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Dear Bill, > I've lost a lot of info because of the dead hardrive, however > I'll do my best. > > We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) and gave them to a > returning powerboater and picked them up later in Ft. Lauderdale. > > Boy was I glad I had: > 45watt solar panel > A good sunshade and side panels > Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything there) > Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and salt filled, it really > fouled the plugs) > Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come by) > A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a handheld to talk to the > boat from shore. > A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The Island" to read out loud and > scare the hell out of the listeners! > > I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which was the old yachtsman > foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on Pop-Eye's arm). All the > anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 strand. I also always > anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost always dove down to hand set > if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong and switch back and > forth) also expect a large and very territorial baraccuda to check you out > as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja and it worked fine also. > > I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 person max inflatable > that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would have been nice to have > had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. (not sure where I would > have put it). > > It might be of help if you check out the "Baja Prelim" in the archives. The > trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep and type of equipment I > used for the Bahamas trip. > > Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. Anchor on the south > side and then hike north, but dress up as if you were a tourist off a cruise > boat. If you time it right on the north side of the island is a big beach > owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have big BBQ's on the beach > (free of course to the guest on the ships) Just exit the scrub jungle as yo > u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots of BBQ and food and > charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding about charging the drinks). > My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank ourselvs full. Then the > local serving lady filled a bag with left over food and Ice for our boat. > We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and pointed out that "Dem > cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of de island. > > Chris G > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William E. Wickman" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > > > > > Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This trip is doubly special for > > me because it is the last bonding experience with my son before he goes > off > > to college. I will probably not have as much time with him collectively > > for the next 4 years as I will have on this one trip. I was hoping to > > stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 months) but alas, my son > has > > a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away camp so I'll be limited > > to two weeks; besides the fact that I would probably lose my job if I took > > longer. > > > > I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then on to the Berry > Islands. > > If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may sail over to Providence > to > > visit my wife and two daughters who will be there for a week while one of > > my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin Encounters. A story, and the > > genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not bore you with. One > > cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not have a scheduled > > itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. > > > > Since you have been there, done that, I have a few of questions for you: > > > > What things did you not take that you wish you had? > > > > What things did you take that you found you did not need? > > > > Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus a small one for my > > dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or did you find need for a > > plow type? > > > > Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece of equipment? I have > read > > that they are, but most of the people that say so were large boats with > > deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. > > > > Thanks, > > Bill W. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Chris > > Geankoplis" > > > .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Sent by: > > rhodes22-list-bou cc > > nces@rhodes22.org > > Subject > > [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > 03/13/2006 01:17 > > AM > > > > > > Please respond to > > The Rhodes 22 > > mail list > > > odes22.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. Your > > Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and > > liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to Bimini > > then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to > > Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and south > > again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands including > > Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return > > trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > S/V Enosis > > Medford, OR > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Travel > Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From napoli68 at charter.net Wed Mar 15 19:24:01 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Wed Mar 15 22:05:31 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip References: Message-ID: <001901c648a9$12bbac80$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Dear Bill, Depth Sounder? Depth Sounder? We don't need no stinkin' depth sounder! I didn't have one and just relied on water color and centerboard touch. However I've got one on my current boat and found it very useful in Baja. The color reading works great except in early morning or very late afternoon light (and useless at night). The sounders are so cheap, easy to install and very entertaining...gee is that a coral head or treasure chest, I wonder. No seeums and mosquetos were not usually a problem if you anchored out a 100 yds and were on the lee of the island with nothing down wind of you. This was the case most of the time but a couple cans of deep woods and some mosquito netting was vital when the bugs ignored logic. One other thing, Kalik beer is not bad but keeping it cold was mostly impossible, bummer. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "William E. Wickman" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:24 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > Thanks Chris. I'll echo the prior comment that you have great gift for > writing. I really enjoyed your Baja log. I'll go back and re-read the > intro. > > Two more questions just popped in my head. Did you have a depth sounder, > and did you find that you wanted/needed one? Did you ever find it buggy > (ie. would no-seeum netting be of any use)? > > Bill W. > > > > > > "Chris > Geankoplis" > .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent by: > rhodes22-list-bou cc > nces@rhodes22.org > Subject > Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama > 03/15/2006 03:11 Trip > AM > > > Please respond to > The Rhodes 22 > mail list > odes22.org> > > > > > > > Dear Bill, > I've lost a lot of info because of the dead hardrive, however > I'll do my best. > > We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) and gave them to a > returning powerboater and picked them up later in Ft. Lauderdale. > > Boy was I glad I had: > 45watt solar panel > A good sunshade and side panels > Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything there) > Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and salt filled, it really > fouled the plugs) > Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come by) > A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a handheld to talk to the > boat from shore. > A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The Island" to read out loud and > scare the hell out of the listeners! > > I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which was the old yachtsman > foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on Pop-Eye's arm). All the > anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 strand. I also always > anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost always dove down to hand > set > if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong and switch back and > forth) also expect a large and very territorial baraccuda to check you out > as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja and it worked fine > also. > > I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 person max inflatable > that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would have been nice to have > had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. (not sure where I would > have put it). > > It might be of help if you check out the "Baja Prelim" in the archives. > The > trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep and type of equipment I > used for the Bahamas trip. > > Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. Anchor on the south > side and then hike north, but dress up as if you were a tourist off a > cruise > boat. If you time it right on the north side of the island is a big beach > owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have big BBQ's on the beach > (free of course to the guest on the ships) Just exit the scrub jungle as > yo > u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots of BBQ and food and > charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding about charging the > drinks). > My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank ourselvs full. Then > the > local serving lady filled a bag with left over food and Ice for our boat. > We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and pointed out that "Dem > cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of de island. > > Chris G > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William E. Wickman" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > > > > > Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This trip is doubly special for > > me because it is the last bonding experience with my son before he goes > off > > to college. I will probably not have as much time with him collectively > > for the next 4 years as I will have on this one trip. I was hoping to > > stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 months) but alas, my son > has > > a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away camp so I'll be limited > > to two weeks; besides the fact that I would probably lose my job if I > took > > longer. > > > > I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then on to the Berry > Islands. > > If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may sail over to Providence > to > > visit my wife and two daughters who will be there for a week while one of > > my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin Encounters. A story, and the > > genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not bore you with. One > > cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not have a scheduled > > itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. > > > > Since you have been there, done that, I have a few of questions for you: > > > > What things did you not take that you wish you had? > > > > What things did you take that you found you did not need? > > > > Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus a small one for my > > dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or did you find need for a > > plow type? > > > > Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece of equipment? I have > read > > that they are, but most of the people that say so were large boats with > > deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. > > > > Thanks, > > Bill W. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Chris > > Geankoplis" > > To > > .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Sent by: > > rhodes22-list-bou > cc > > nces@rhodes22.org > > > Subject > > [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > 03/13/2006 01:17 > > AM > > > > > > Please respond to > > The Rhodes 22 > > mail list > > > odes22.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. > Your > > Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and > > liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to > Bimini > > then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to > > Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and south > > again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands including > > Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return > > trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > S/V Enosis > > Medford, OR > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From napoli68 at charter.net Wed Mar 15 19:28:08 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Wed Mar 15 22:07:50 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip References: <20060315160855.58616.qmail@web33504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002301c648a9$acdd6060$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Gee, Julia, You are too kind! I shall keep you in mind if the bug bites. It is always encouraging to get the supportive response when I put some things on the list. So Julia, when are you and Louis going to Venezuela? Chris G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia Guzman" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > Chris, > > Sounds like you are a very experienced sailor and able > to find adventure every day. You also seem to know how > to plan well for these trips. Both are key to the > success you experience I am sure. > > I agree that you should be writing a guide. I am a > writer and a publicist, and would be happy to work > with you if you ever decide to do so. Until then, I > will continue to enjoy your stories on the list. > > My personal goal is to first learn to sail well enough > to get from Sarasota Bay to the Keys. After that, we > shall see. > > Kindly, > Julia G. > > --- Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > > Dear Bill, > > I've lost a lot of info because of the > > dead hardrive, however > > I'll do my best. > > > > We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) > > and gave them to a > > returning powerboater and picked them up later in > > Ft. Lauderdale. > > > > Boy was I glad I had: > > 45watt solar panel > > A good sunshade and side panels > > Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything > > there) > > Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and > > salt filled, it really > > fouled the plugs) > > Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come > > by) > > A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a > > handheld to talk to the > > boat from shore. > > A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The > > Island" to read out loud and > > scare the hell out of the listeners! > > > > I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which > > was the old yachtsman > > foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on > > Pop-Eye's arm). All the > > anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 > > strand. I also always > > anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost > > always dove down to hand set > > if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong > > and switch back and > > forth) also expect a large and very territorial > > baraccuda to check you out > > as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja > > and it worked fine also. > > > > I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 > > person max inflatable > > that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would > > have been nice to have > > had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. > > (not sure where I would > > have put it). > > > > It might be of help if you check out the "Baja > > Prelim" in the archives. The > > trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep > > and type of equipment I > > used for the Bahamas trip. > > > > Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. > > Anchor on the south > > side and then hike north, but dress up as if you > > were a tourist off a cruise > > boat. If you time it right on the north side of the > > island is a big beach > > owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have > > big BBQ's on the beach > > (free of course to the guest on the ships) Just > > exit the scrub jungle as yo > > u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots > > of BBQ and food and > > charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding > > about charging the drinks). > > My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank > > ourselvs full. Then the > > local serving lady filled a bag with left over food > > and Ice for our boat. > > We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and > > pointed out that "Dem > > cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of > > de island. > > > > Chris G > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William E. Wickman" > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > > > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > > > > > > > > > Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This > > trip is doubly special for > > > me because it is the last bonding experience with > > my son before he goes > > off > > > to college. I will probably not have as much time > > with him collectively > > > for the next 4 years as I will have on this one > > trip. I was hoping to > > > stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 > > months) but alas, my son > > has > > > a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away > > camp so I'll be limited > > > to two weeks; besides the fact that I would > > probably lose my job if I took > > > longer. > > > > > > I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then > > on to the Berry > > Islands. > > > If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may > > sail over to Providence > > to > > > visit my wife and two daughters who will be there > > for a week while one of > > > my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin > > Encounters. A story, and the > > > genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not > > bore you with. One > > > cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not > > have a scheduled > > > itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. > > > > > > Since you have been there, done that, I have a few > > of questions for you: > > > > > > What things did you not take that you wish you > > had? > > > > > > What things did you take that you found you did > > not need? > > > > > > Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus > > a small one for my > > > dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or > > did you find need for a > > > plow type? > > > > > > Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece > > of equipment? I have > > read > > > that they are, but most of the people that say so > > were large boats with > > > deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bill W. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Chris > > > Geankoplis" > > > > To > > > .net> "The Rhodes > > 22 mail list" > > > Sent by: > > > > > rhodes22-list-bou > > cc > > > nces@rhodes22.org > > > > > Subject > > > > > [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > > 03/13/2006 01:17 > > > AM > > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > The Rhodes 22 > > > mail list > > > > > odes22.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > I missed your original statement about a > > trip to the Bahamas. Your > > > Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on > > my previous Rhodes and > > > liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 > > months. I Sailed to Bimini > > > then Berry islands (some cool stuff > > there)-Providence to Eluthra back to > > > Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back > > to Providence and south > > > again to Georgetown then Back north to the > > northernmost islands including > > > Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to > > Gun Cay for the return > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From napoli68 at charter.net Wed Mar 15 19:35:30 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Wed Mar 15 22:14:57 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip References: Message-ID: <003101c648aa$ad2bb200$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Bob wrote: " My first question is where did you depart from? Bob W." Are you familiar with the Florida state hospital for the humor impaired? Actually I left from Ft. Lauderdale which was just a bit too far north. Next time I would leave from Miami area a bit further south. We raised Great Isacc light about 20 miles north of Bimini due to the current and a desire to be certain which way to go when we hit the Bahama banks since we were dead reckoning. With GPS I would make it a straight shot to Bimini. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Weber" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > Chris, your not getting off the hook that easy. Inquiring / dreaming / > freezing minds want to know. My first question is where did you depart > from? Bob W. > > > >From: "William E. Wickman" > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:24:09 -0500 > > > > > >Thanks Chris. I'll echo the prior comment that you have great gift for > >writing. I really enjoyed your Baja log. I'll go back and re-read the > >intro. > > > >Two more questions just popped in my head. Did you have a depth sounder, > >and did you find that you wanted/needed one? Did you ever find it buggy > >(ie. would no-seeum netting be of any use)? > > > >Bill W. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Chris > > Geankoplis" > > > .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Sent by: > > rhodes22-list-bou cc > > nces@rhodes22.org > > Subject > > Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama > > 03/15/2006 03:11 Trip > > AM > > > > > > Please respond to > > The Rhodes 22 > > mail list > > > odes22.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Bill, > > I've lost a lot of info because of the dead hardrive, however > >I'll do my best. > > > >We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) and gave them to a > >returning powerboater and picked them up later in Ft. Lauderdale. > > > >Boy was I glad I had: > >45watt solar panel > >A good sunshade and side panels > >Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything there) > >Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and salt filled, it really > >fouled the plugs) > >Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come by) > >A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a handheld to talk to the > >boat from shore. > >A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The Island" to read out loud and > >scare the hell out of the listeners! > > > >I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which was the old yachtsman > >foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on Pop-Eye's arm). All the > >anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 strand. I also always > >anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost always dove down to hand > >set > >if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong and switch back and > >forth) also expect a large and very territorial baraccuda to check you out > >as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja and it worked fine > >also. > > > >I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 person max inflatable > >that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would have been nice to have > >had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. (not sure where I would > >have put it). > > > >It might be of help if you check out the "Baja Prelim" in the archives. > >The > >trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep and type of equipment I > >used for the Bahamas trip. > > > >Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. Anchor on the south > >side and then hike north, but dress up as if you were a tourist off a > >cruise > >boat. If you time it right on the north side of the island is a big beach > >owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have big BBQ's on the beach > >(free of course to the guest on the ships) Just exit the scrub jungle as > >yo > >u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots of BBQ and food and > >charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding about charging the > >drinks). > >My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank ourselvs full. Then > >the > >local serving lady filled a bag with left over food and Ice for our boat. > >We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and pointed out that "Dem > >cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of de island. > > > >Chris G > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "William E. Wickman" > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > > > > > > > > > Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This trip is doubly special > >for > > > me because it is the last bonding experience with my son before he goes > >off > > > to college. I will probably not have as much time with him collectively > > > for the next 4 years as I will have on this one trip. I was hoping to > > > stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 months) but alas, my son > >has > > > a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away camp so I'll be > >limited > > > to two weeks; besides the fact that I would probably lose my job if I > >took > > > longer. > > > > > > I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then on to the Berry > >Islands. > > > If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may sail over to Providence > >to > > > visit my wife and two daughters who will be there for a week while one > >of > > > my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin Encounters. A story, and the > > > genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not bore you with. One > > > cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not have a scheduled > > > itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. > > > > > > Since you have been there, done that, I have a few of questions for you: > > > > > > What things did you not take that you wish you had? > > > > > > What things did you take that you found you did not need? > > > > > > Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus a small one for my > > > dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or did you find need for > >a > > > plow type? > > > > > > Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece of equipment? I have > >read > > > that they are, but most of the people that say so were large boats with > > > deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Bill W. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Chris > > > Geankoplis" > > > >To > > > .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > > Sent by: > > > rhodes22-list-bou > >cc > > > nces@rhodes22.org > > > > >Subject > > > [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama > >Trip > > > 03/13/2006 01:17 > > > AM > > > > > > > > > Please respond to > > > The Rhodes 22 > > > mail list > > > > > odes22.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. > >Your > > > Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and > > > liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to > >Bimini > > > then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to > > > Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and > >south > > > again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands > >including > > > Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return > > > trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. > > > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > > S/V Enosis > > > Medford, OR > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 16 05:04:31 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Thu Mar 16 08:04:50 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New member, R22 interest, but very coy In-Reply-To: <39c52f6f0603151701t64cccd46v616f0ced99807863@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060316130431.80162.qmail@web36406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Todd.. In light of the sinking, I think karma lies with your wife. I also like Oui Si Ya..it will be easy to understand over VHF... Elle --- Todd Zumach wrote: > Elle, > > Good idea for the boat name. However, I think it > will get vetoed by the > Admiral. I got to name the last boat (a 1975 South > Coast 22) "Z Breeze". I > thought it was a great name, the women of the house > disagreed. Then, last > Father's Day went we went out to sail and found the > boat sunk at the dock, > my wife took it as an omen. So now, I have to get > unanimous consent. I do > like Oui Si Ya that Julie suggested on another > thread. > > Capn Z > Phillips, WI > > On 3/14/06, L. Sailor > wrote: > > > > > > OK, Slim,..more nonessential info..my hubby was a > > trumpeter (ah..the embouchure)..nothing like a > horn > > player ;^).....and a band director for 35 years. > He > > also had a wonderful light baritone singing voice. > We > > enjoyed all genre of music...I'd just hear a > snippet > > of something & he'd know what it was. Baroque was > one > > of our favorites, with everything else (except > rap) > > running a close second. There's more, but that's > enuf > > for now. > > > > Elle > > --- Slim wrote: > > > > > Elle, > > > > > > I forgot to ask about your address--I take it > you > > > like Baroque music. Care > > > to share any details? > > > > > > Slim (Professional musician) > > > > > > On 3/14/06 12:09 AM, "Slim" > wrote: > > > > > > > Elle, > > > > > > > > Now that you've passed the initiation with > flying > > > colors, welcome! 8-) > > > > It won't be long before you, yourself are > > > initiating the uninitiated. Just > > > > wait until some newbie comes onboard and asks > us > > > to remove her/him from the > > > > list. We (at least I) always have fun with > that! > > > > > > > > Hope you enjoy your visit to GBI with your > canine > > > pal! I, myself, have > > > > never made the pilgrimage to Mecca but I hope > to > > > in the near future. > > > > > > > > BTW, How did you come to know Italian? > > > > > > > > Just got home (Minneapolis) from my California > > > trip, spending the night and > > > > heading to Indiana tomorrow. 11" of fresh > snow > > > here--hope the roads are OK. > > > > > > > > Check out http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > > > > > > > > Slim > > > > S/V Fandango > > > > > > > > P.S. None of us pay any attention to Ed. > > > > > > > > On 3/13/06 7:29 PM, "L. Sailor" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Thank you, thank you. Nothing like a little > > > >> initiation... > > > >> > > > >> Elle > > > >> > > > >> --- Hank wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Elle, > > > >>> > > > >>> I second Rummy's comments below and add, > like > > > any > > > >>> family, you get all > > > >>> types. There's always the uncle (or cousin > or > > > >>> brother or whatever) who, at > > > >>> times can be a royal PITA, but in the end we > > > >>> wouldn't go on without him (or > > > >>> her). > > > >>> > > > >>> Welcome aboard! > > > >>> > > > >>> Hank > > > >>> > > > >>> On 3/13/06, R22RumRunner@aol.com > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Elle, > > > >>>> This list is more like a family than any > other > > > >>> sailing forum you will > > > >>>> experience. Since the list is actually > > > supported > > > >>> (Michael owns and > > > >>>> operates the > > > >>>> list) by the owners, not the factory or > Sailnet > > > or > > > >>> anyone else, we tend to > > > >>>> be > > > >>>> more friendly than other lists. We do not > bully > > > >>> newbies, but try to get > > > >>>> enough > > > >>>> information so that we can be on a first > name > > > >>> basis. > > > >>>> Welcome to the family. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Rrrrrrrrrrrummy > > > >>>> > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > > >>> www.rhodes22.org/list > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > > > >>> www.rhodes22.org/list > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > >> Do You Yahoo!? > > > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From wewickman at duke-energy.com Thu Mar 16 08:57:43 2006 From: wewickman at duke-energy.com (William E. Wickman) Date: Thu Mar 16 09:00:34 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Dinghy Motor In-Reply-To: <001301c648a7$eea3fa60$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Message-ID: I like the idea of electric as well, but what about wind and current? Would a trolling motor be able to overcome if it only has enough power to push at rowing speed? "Chris Geankoplis" "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent by: rhodes22-list-bou cc nces@rhodes22.org Subject Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Dinghy 03/15/2006 10:15 Motor PM Please respond to The Rhodes 22 mail list Hey Bill, I wonder why I didn't think of that. Shoot, my current 55w panel would take care of all my boat needs and dingy needs too! I'll look into it. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:40 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Dinghy Motor > Chris, > > Small electric trolling motors can push around dinghys very easily and > fit in the laz. Small gel cell or agm bats can be stowed on board and > recharged either on board or on shore. The motors are very efficient, > and as the batteries drain they just go slower, but you stop using them > long before they completely drain the bats. > > You go at roughly the same speed you would go if you were rowing. > > Bill Effros > > Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > Dear Bill, > > I've lost a lot of info because of the dead hardrive, however > > I'll do my best. > > > > We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) and gave them to a > > returning powerboater and picked them up later in Ft. Lauderdale. > > > > Boy was I glad I had: > > 45watt solar panel > > A good sunshade and side panels > > Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything there) > > Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and salt filled, it really > > fouled the plugs) > > Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come by) > > A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a handheld to talk to the > > boat from shore. > > A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The Island" to read out loud and > > scare the hell out of the listeners! > > > > I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which was the old yachtsman > > foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on Pop-Eye's arm). All the > > anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 strand. I also always > > anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost always dove down to hand set > > if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong and switch back and > > forth) also expect a large and very territorial baraccuda to check you out > > as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja and it worked fine also. > > > > I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 person max inflatable > > that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would have been nice to have > > had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. (not sure where I would > > have put it). > > > > It might be of help if you check out the "Baja Prelim" in the archives. The > > trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep and type of equipment I > > used for the Bahamas trip. > > > > Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. Anchor on the south > > side and then hike north, but dress up as if you were a tourist off a cruise > > boat. If you time it right on the north side of the island is a big beach > > owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have big BBQ's on the beach > > (free of course to the guest on the ships) Just exit the scrub jungle as yo > > u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots of BBQ and food and > > charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding about charging the drinks). > > My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank ourselvs full. Then the > > local serving lady filled a bag with left over food and Ice for our boat. > > We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and pointed out that "Dem > > cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of de island. > > > > Chris G > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William E. Wickman" > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > > > > > > > >> Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This trip is doubly special for > >> me because it is the last bonding experience with my son before he goes > >> > > off > > > >> to college. I will probably not have as much time with him collectively > >> for the next 4 years as I will have on this one trip. I was hoping to > >> stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 months) but alas, my son > >> > > has > > > >> a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away camp so I'll be limited > >> to two weeks; besides the fact that I would probably lose my job if I took > >> longer. > >> > >> I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then on to the Berry > >> > > Islands. > > > >> If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may sail over to Providence > >> > > to > > > >> visit my wife and two daughters who will be there for a week while one of > >> my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin Encounters. A story, and the > >> genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not bore you with. One > >> cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not have a scheduled > >> itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. > >> > >> Since you have been there, done that, I have a few of questions for you: > >> > >> What things did you not take that you wish you had? > >> > >> What things did you take that you found you did not need? > >> > >> Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus a small one for my > >> dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or did you find need for a > >> plow type? > >> > >> Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece of equipment? I have > >> > > read > > > >> that they are, but most of the people that say so were large boats with > >> deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Bill W. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "Chris > >> Geankoplis" > >> >> .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >> Sent by: > >> rhodes22-list-bou cc > >> nces@rhodes22.org > >> Subject > >> [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip > >> 03/13/2006 01:17 > >> AM > >> > >> > >> Please respond to > >> The Rhodes 22 > >> mail list > >> >> odes22.org> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Bill, > >> I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. Your > >> Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes and > >> liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to Bimini > >> then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back to > >> Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and south > >> again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands including > >> Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return > >> trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. > >> > >> Chris Geankoplis > >> S/V Enosis > >> Medford, OR > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > >> > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From bill at effros.com Thu Mar 16 09:16:21 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Thu Mar 16 09:16:04 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Dinghy Motor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44197335.70208@effros.com> Bill, I always carry oars as well. (I have 2-piece oars that snap together--very convenient.) I have a rule of thumb. If I can't row through the wind and current I shouldn't be on the water. The electric motor will move the dinghy whenever the oars will move the dinghy--but it will drain the batteries much faster than I will become exhausted. The electric motor will spin at near 100% of its capacity as long as it gets full current. As the battery drains the need for the oars becomes apparent. Bill Effros William E. Wickman wrote: > I like the idea of electric as well, but what about wind and current? > Would a trolling motor be able to overcome if it only has enough power to > push at rowing speed? > > > > > > "Chris > Geankoplis" > .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent by: > rhodes22-list-bou cc > nces@rhodes22.org > Subject > Re: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Dinghy > 03/15/2006 10:15 Motor > PM > > > Please respond to > The Rhodes 22 > mail list > odes22.org> > > > > > > > Hey Bill, > I wonder why I didn't think of that. Shoot, my current 55w > panel > would take care of all my boat needs and dingy needs too! I'll look into > it. > > Chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Effros" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:40 AM > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Dinghy Motor > > > >> Chris, >> >> Small electric trolling motors can push around dinghys very easily and >> fit in the laz. Small gel cell or agm bats can be stowed on board and >> recharged either on board or on shore. The motors are very efficient, >> and as the batteries drain they just go slower, but you stop using them >> long before they completely drain the bats. >> >> You go at roughly the same speed you would go if you were rowing. >> >> Bill Effros >> >> Chris Geankoplis wrote: >> >>> Dear Bill, >>> I've lost a lot of info because of the dead hardrive, >>> > however > >>> I'll do my best. >>> >>> We did not need the sleeping bags (summer weight) and gave them to a >>> returning powerboater and picked them up later in Ft. Lauderdale. >>> >>> Boy was I glad I had: >>> 45watt solar panel >>> A good sunshade and side panels >>> Lots of food (it cost a fortune to buy anything there) >>> Several spare sparkplugs (the fuel was dirty and salt filled, it really >>> fouled the plugs) >>> Plenty of water containers (water is hard to come by) >>> A fixed VHF with a masthead mounted antenna and a handheld to talk to >>> > the > >>> boat from shore. >>> A copy (out of print) of Peter Benchley's "The Island" to read out loud >>> > and > >>> scare the hell out of the listeners! >>> >>> I had two danforths and a great rock anchor which was the old yachtsman >>> foldable anchor (you know the one tatooed on Pop-Eye's arm). All the >>> anchors had 10 feet of chain and 150 of 1/2 inch 3 strand. I also >>> > always > >>> anchored with a minimum of 2 anchors and almost always dove down to >>> > hand > set > >>> if necessary. (watch the currents they are strong and switch back and >>> forth) also expect a large and very territorial baraccuda to check you >>> > out > >>> as you do the chore. I used a plow type in the Baja and it worked fine >>> > also. > >>> I did not have a dingy with a motor, only a small 3 person max >>> > inflatable > >>> that we rowed around, lots of excercise but it would have been nice to >>> > have > >>> had a little 3 hp lightweight aircooled outboard. (not sure where I >>> > would > >>> have put it). >>> >>> It might be of help if you check out the "Baja Prelim" in the archives. >>> > The > >>> trip to the Sea of Cortez was similar in the prep and type of equipment >>> > I > >>> used for the Bahamas trip. >>> >>> Oh yeah, Go to Great Stirrup Island in the Berrys. Anchor on the >>> > south > >>> side and then hike north, but dress up as if you were a tourist off a >>> > cruise > >>> boat. If you time it right on the north side of the island is a big >>> > beach > >>> owned by the Disney and Carnival lines. They have big BBQ's on the >>> > beach > >>> (free of course to the guest on the ships) Just exit the scrub jungle >>> > as yo > >>> u are zipping up your fly. Then mingle, eats lots of BBQ and food and >>> charge your drinks to cabin B 326. (Just kidding about charging the >>> > drinks). > >>> My brother and I had a great time and ate and drank ourselvs full. >>> > Then > the > >>> local serving lady filled a bag with left over food and Ice for our >>> > boat. > >>> We tried to play dumb but she just laughed and pointed out that "Dem >>> cockelburs in yo socks, de grows on the sout side of de island. >>> >>> Chris G >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "William E. Wickman" >>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >>> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:04 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama Trip >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Wow Chris. I wish I had that much time. This trip is doubly special >>>> > for > >>>> me because it is the last bonding experience with my son before he >>>> > goes > >>> off >>> >>> >>>> to college. I will probably not have as much time with him >>>> > collectively > >>>> for the next 4 years as I will have on this one trip. I was hoping to >>>> stretch it into a three week trip (let alone 3 months) but alas, my >>>> > son > >>> has >>> >>> >>>> a summer job as a camp counselor at some far away camp so I'll be >>>> > limited > >>>> to two weeks; besides the fact that I would probably lose my job if I >>>> > took > >>>> longer. >>>> >>>> I plan to follow your footsteps to Bimini and then on to the Berry >>>> >>>> >>> Islands. >>> >>> >>>> If time, weather, and the mood strikes us we may sail over to >>>> > Providence > >>> to >>> >>> >>>> visit my wife and two daughters who will be there for a week while one >>>> > of > >>>> my daughters works as an intern at Dolphin Encounters. A story, and >>>> > the > >>>> genesis for this whole adventure, which I will not bore you with. One >>>> cardinal rule that I do plan to follow is to not have a scheduled >>>> itinerary. I'll leave that for the cruise ships. >>>> >>>> Since you have been there, done that, I have a few of questions for >>>> > you: > >>>> What things did you not take that you wish you had? >>>> >>>> What things did you take that you found you did not need? >>>> >>>> Is my Fortress danforth anchor (I've got two plus a small one for my >>>> dinghy) adequate for anchoring in the Bahamas, or did you find need >>>> > for > a > >>>> plow type? >>>> >>>> Is an outboard for the dinghy an essential piece of equipment? I have >>>> >>>> >>> read >>> >>> >>>> that they are, but most of the people that say so were large boats >>>> > with > >>>> deeper drafts than the Rhodes22. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bill W. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Chris >>>> Geankoplis" >>>> >>> > To > >>>> .net> "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >>>> Sent by: >>>> rhodes22-list-bou >>>> > cc > >>>> nces@rhodes22.org >>>> >>>> > Subject > >>>> [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Bahama >>>> > Trip > >>>> 03/13/2006 01:17 >>>> AM >>>> >>>> >>>> Please respond to >>>> The Rhodes 22 >>>> mail list >>>> >>> odes22.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bill, >>>> I missed your original statement about a trip to the Bahamas. >>>> > Your > >>>> Idea/itinary sounds good. I've made the trip on my previous Rhodes >>>> > and > >>>> liked it so well in the Bahamas I stayed for 3 months. I Sailed to >>>> > Bimini > >>>> then Berry islands (some cool stuff there)-Providence to Eluthra back >>>> > to > >>>> Profidence Then South through all theExumas, back to Providence and >>>> > south > >>>> again to Georgetown then Back north to the northernmost islands >>>> > including > >>>> Walker Cay then over to Freeport and finally to Gun Cay for the return >>>> trip. You can contact me backchannel if I can be of any help. >>>> >>>> Chris Geankoplis >>>> S/V Enosis >>>> Medford, OR >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >>> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From ekroposki at charter.net Thu Mar 16 08:01:27 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Thu Mar 16 11:01:35 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd Z's boat name, Lady Chesepeake Sailor In-Reply-To: <20060316130431.80162.qmail@web36406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4927384.1142217070287.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <20060313035312.93357.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <033501c6466e$35a524c0$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> <20060313150020.37096.qmail@web36415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2fa.75d175.3146e538@aol.com> <20060314012934.70403.qmail@web36409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060315051518.77218.qmail@web36401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <39c52f6f0603151701t64cccd46v616f0ced99807863@mail.gmail.com> <20060316130431.80162.qmail@web36406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3438827.post@talk.nabble.com> Todd, There is another aspect of this name. Have you ever hear a pig farmer call his pigs at feeding time? They yell, 'Sui, Sui, Sui' so I imagine hearing a pig farmer calling over the VHF... so much for the foreign languate stuff. Consider naming your boat like MJM did, after your daughers... And then there is this Elle stuff. We have a famous Elle in Greenville, SC. Her last name is Fant. At the hospital, there is a tech who hands every new person one of those ' you got a phone call' slips saying that Elle Fant called with a phone number to call. When the new guy calls the person back and get an answer , Greenville Zoo, they know they have been had. This has been going on for at least twelve years. The receptionist at the zoo knows what is happening and starts laughing. Elle, It is too bad that Lloyd finnally sold his boat. You could have gotten an experienced old Rhodie to show you the boat. Lloyd has not been on the list for quite some time. The last we heard was he was a volunteer coast watcher for the Coast Guard. He claimed he was getting to old and stiff to climb on deck. He could have used a spring chicken to help him. Maybe you should check the archives and send him an email asking his advice and offering a sail in your potter. That is after he helps getting it in sailing order. And, he is very knowledgeable about putting a boat in sailing order and sailing Cheaspeake Bay. He might really enjoy the opportunity. See: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2005-March/021946.html Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-New-member%2C-R22-interest%2C-but-very-coy-t1270268.html#a3438827 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From sailnut at att.net Thu Mar 16 11:03:43 2006 From: sailnut at att.net (Richard Smith) Date: Thu Mar 16 11:07:34 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Dinghy Motor References: <005601c64808$1919d760$6501a8c0@j7g1u2><4418193C.10707@effros.com> <001301c648a7$eea3fa60$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Message-ID: <001601c64913$37327de0$5b00000a@pc108> Although I never ran an energy budget on a dinghy powered by a trolling electric I abandoned the idea for practical reasons, namely because of the mass of the battery. If you are anchored out you are going to have major issues transferring a heavy lead acid battery from the Rhodes to the dink and back. Granted an electric is very appealing from an environmental standpoint but I would buy the smallest lightest outboard I could find and mount it on an 8 foot inflatable with a slat floor. A little Honda is quiet economical and easily moved about. Richard Smith From bill at effros.com Thu Mar 16 11:26:32 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Thu Mar 16 11:26:14 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Dinghy Motor In-Reply-To: <001601c64913$37327de0$5b00000a@pc108> References: <005601c64808$1919d760$6501a8c0@j7g1u2><4418193C.10707@effros.com> <001301c648a7$eea3fa60$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> <001601c64913$37327de0$5b00000a@pc108> Message-ID: <441991B8.9030300@effros.com> Richard, I seldom use the electric because I prefer to row, however, sometimes you have too much stuff, or too many people to be able to efficiently row a small dinghy. In those situations I use the electric. I use a very small battery, because I don't plan to go great distances. My boat is moored a half-mile from shore. I can do a half-dozen round trips on a single charge of a less than 10 pound battery. I can easily store the whole shootin' match in my lazarette -- and that's the real point. The only real problem is when the motor and spare battery are on board when I need them on land, and vice versa. Some years I store it on the boat. Other years I store it in the basement. And somehow it seems always to be in the wrong place when I need it. That's life, I suppose. Bill Effros Richard Smith wrote: > Although I never ran an energy budget on a dinghy powered by a trolling > electric I abandoned the idea for practical reasons, namely because of the > mass of the battery. If you are anchored out you are going to have major > issues transferring a heavy lead acid battery from the Rhodes to the dink > and back. > > Granted an electric is very appealing from an environmental standpoint but I > would buy the smallest lightest outboard I could find and mount it on an 8 > foot inflatable with a slat floor. A little Honda is quiet economical and > easily moved about. > > Richard Smith > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From budconnor at earthlink.net Thu Mar 16 12:12:43 2006 From: budconnor at earthlink.net (Bud Connor) Date: Thu Mar 16 12:19:50 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Mooring References: <005601c64808$1919d760$6501a8c0@j7g1u2><4418193C.10707@effros.com> <001301c648a7$eea3fa60$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> <001601c64913$37327de0$5b00000a@pc108> <441991B8.9030300@effros.com> Message-ID: <44199C8B.8070802@earthlink.net> Bill, at a 1/2 mile out, I assume your boat is pretty exposed - do you secure to the bow eye, the bow cleat or both? Also, does your boat ever get knocked down by big wind and waves? Thanks, Bud Bill Effros wrote: > Richard, > > I seldom use the electric because I prefer to row, however, sometimes > you have too much stuff, or too many people to be able to efficiently > row a small dinghy. In those situations I use the electric. > > I use a very small battery, because I don't plan to go great > distances. My boat is moored a half-mile from shore. I can do a > half-dozen round trips on a single charge of a less than 10 pound > battery. I can easily store the whole shootin' match in my lazarette > -- and that's the real point. The only real problem is when the motor > and spare battery are on board when I need them on land, and vice versa. > > Some years I store it on the boat. Other years I store it in the > basement. And somehow it seems always to be in the wrong place when I > need it. > > That's life, I suppose. > > Bill Effros > > Richard Smith wrote: > >> Although I never ran an energy budget on a dinghy powered by a trolling >> electric I abandoned the idea for practical reasons, namely because >> of the >> mass of the battery. If you are anchored out you are going to have >> major >> issues transferring a heavy lead acid battery from the Rhodes to the >> dink >> and back. >> >> Granted an electric is very appealing from an environmental >> standpoint but I >> would buy the smallest lightest outboard I could find and mount it on >> an 8 >> foot inflatable with a slat floor. A little Honda is quiet >> economical and >> easily moved about. >> >> Richard Smith >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From bill at effros.com Thu Mar 16 15:03:29 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Thu Mar 16 15:03:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Mooring In-Reply-To: <44199C8B.8070802@earthlink.net> References: <005601c64808$1919d760$6501a8c0@j7g1u2><4418193C.10707@effros.com> <001301c648a7$eea3fa60$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> <001601c64913$37327de0$5b00000a@pc108> <441991B8.9030300@effros.com> <44199C8B.8070802@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4419C491.3020808@effros.com> Sorry, Bud, That was a bit misleading. My boat is moored a half-mile from the shore I can get to, but it's only 100 yards from private property. Much of Long Island sound is quite shallow. In my cove. There is a 9 foot tidal variation. At low tide my boat is in 3 feet of water. At high tide it's in 12 feet of water. While I can see Manhattan from my mooring, I am protected from the waves in 360?, and from the wind in roughly 320?. All of this makes much more sense if you look at the Frappr Map. The last time I looked I had placed my boat in approximately the right place. I use only the bow cleat. I have a 300 pound mushroom anchor, very heavy chain, and line that barely fits under the cleat. The boat has never been knocked down by either wind or waves. I have managed to "drag" that anchor (actually, I floated it) but that had nothing to do with either wind or waves, directly. It was a calm day. Explained elsewhere. Bill Effros Bud Connor wrote: > Bill, > at a 1/2 mile out, I assume your boat is pretty exposed - do you > secure to the bow eye, the bow cleat or both? > Also, does your boat ever get knocked down by big wind and waves? > > Thanks, > Bud > > > Bill Effros wrote: > >> Richard, >> >> I seldom use the electric because I prefer to row, however, sometimes >> you have too much stuff, or too many people to be able to efficiently >> row a small dinghy. In those situations I use the electric. >> >> I use a very small battery, because I don't plan to go great >> distances. My boat is moored a half-mile from shore. I can do a >> half-dozen round trips on a single charge of a less than 10 pound >> battery. I can easily store the whole shootin' match in my lazarette >> -- and that's the real point. The only real problem is when the >> motor and spare battery are on board when I need them on land, and >> vice versa. >> >> Some years I store it on the boat. Other years I store it in the >> basement. And somehow it seems always to be in the wrong place when >> I need it. >> >> That's life, I suppose. >> >> Bill Effros >> >> Richard Smith wrote: >> >>> Although I never ran an energy budget on a dinghy powered by a trolling >>> electric I abandoned the idea for practical reasons, namely because >>> of the >>> mass of the battery. If you are anchored out you are going to have >>> major >>> issues transferring a heavy lead acid battery from the Rhodes to the >>> dink >>> and back. >>> >>> Granted an electric is very appealing from an environmental >>> standpoint but I >>> would buy the smallest lightest outboard I could find and mount it >>> on an 8 >>> foot inflatable with a slat floor. A little Honda is quiet >>> economical and >>> easily moved about. >>> >>> Richard Smith >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >>> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From lemenagerie22 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 16 12:24:06 2006 From: lemenagerie22 at yahoo.com (Jim White) Date: Thu Mar 16 15:24:16 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] JOKE: If Noah Lived in the US Today.... Message-ID: <20060316202406.69517.qmail@web30911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> And jw saw that it was true and said, Amen, again and again...... jw IF NOAH LIVED IN THE UNITED STATES TODAY And the Lord spoke to Noah and said, "In one year, I am going to make it rain and cover the whole earth with water until all flesh is destroyed. But I want you to save the righteous people and two of every kind of living thing on the earth. Therefore, I am commanding you to build an Ark." In a flash of lightning, God delivered the specifications for an Ark. In fear and trembling, Noah took the plans and agreed to build the Ark. "Remember" said the Lord, "You must complete the Ark and bring Everything aboard in one year. Exactly one year later, fierce storm clouds covered the earth and all The seas of the earth went into a tumult. The Lord saw that Noah was sitting in his front yard weeping. "Noah," He shouted. "Where is the Ark?" "Lord, please forgive me! cried Noah. "I did my best, but there were big problems. First, I had to get a permit for construction and your plans did not meet the codes. I had to hire an engineering firm and redraw the plans. Then I got into a fight with OSHA over whether or not the Ark needed a fire sprinkler system and flotation devices. Then my neighbor objected, claiming I was violating zoning ordinances by building the Ark in my front yard, so I had to get a variance from the city planning commission. Then I had problems getting enough wood for the Ark, because there was a ban on cutting trees to protect the Spotted Owl. I finally convinced the U.S. Forest Service that I needed the wood to save the owls. However, the Fish and Wildlife Service won't let me catch any owls. So, no owls. The carpenters formed a union and went out on strike. I had to negotiate a settlement with the National Labor Relations Board before anyone would pick up a saw or a hammer. Now I have 16 carpenters on the Ark, but still no owls. When I started rounding up the other animals, I got sued by an animal rights group. They objected to me only taking two of each kind aboard. Just when I got the suit dismissed, the EPA notified me that I could not complete the Ark without filing an environmental impact statement on your proposed flood. They didn't take very kindly to the idea that they had no jurisdiction over the conduct of the Creator of the universe. Then the Army Coprs of Engineers demanded a map of the proposed new flood plain. I sent them a globe. Right now, I am trying to resolve a complaint filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission that I am practicing discrimination by not taking godless, unbelieving people aboard. The IRS has seized my assets, claiming that I'm building the Ark in preparation to flee the country to avoid paying taxes. I just got a notice from the state that I owe them some kind of user tax and failed to register the Ark as a "recreational watercraft." Finally, the ACLU got the courts to issue an injunction against further construction of the Ark, saying that since God is flooding the earth, it is a religious event and therefore unconstitutional. I really don't think I can finish the Ark for another five or six years." Noah wailed. The sky began to clear, the sun began to shine and the seas began to calm. A rainbow arched across the sky. Noah looked up hopefully. "You mean you are not going to destroy the earth, Lord?" "No," said the Lord sadly. "I don't have to. The government already has." Jim White Le Menagerie www.lemenagerie.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu Thu Mar 16 15:34:06 2006 From: lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu (Lou Rosenberg) Date: Thu Mar 16 15:37:41 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] JOKE: If Noah Lived in the US Today.... In-Reply-To: <20060316202406.69517.qmail@web30911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060316202406.69517.qmail@web30911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jim, That's Divine ! LR >And jw saw that it was true and said, Amen, again and again...... > jw > > IF NOAH LIVED IN THE UNITED STATES TODAY > > And the Lord spoke to Noah and said, "In one year, I am going to make > it rain and cover the whole earth with water until all flesh is > destroyed. But I want you to save the righteous people and two of every > kind of living thing on the earth. > Therefore, I am commanding > you to build an Ark." > > In a flash of lightning, God delivered the specifications for an Ark. > In fear and trembling, Noah took the plans and agreed to build the Ark. > "Remember" said the Lord, "You must complete the Ark and bring > Everything aboard in one year. > > Exactly one year later, fierce storm clouds covered the earth and all > The seas of the earth went into a tumult. The Lord saw that Noah was > sitting in his front yard weeping. "Noah," He shouted. > "Where is the Ark?" > > "Lord, please forgive me! cried Noah. "I did my best, but there were > big problems. > > First, I had to get a permit for construction and your plans did not > meet the codes. I had to hire an engineering firm and redraw the plans. > > Then I got into a fight with OSHA over whether or not the Ark needed a > fire sprinkler system and flotation devices. > > Then my neighbor objected, claiming I was violating zoning ordinances > by building the Ark in my front yard, so I had to get a variance from > the city planning commission. > > Then I had problems getting enough wood for the Ark, because there was > a ban on cutting trees to protect the Spotted Owl. I finally convinced > the U.S. Forest Service that I needed the wood to save the owls. > However, the Fish and Wildlife Service won't let me catch any owls. So, > no owls. > > The carpenters formed a union and went out on strike. > I had to negotiate a settlement with the National Labor Relations Board > before anyone would pick up a saw or a hammer. Now I have 16 carpenters > on the Ark, but still no owls. > > When I started rounding up the other animals, I got sued by an animal > rights group. They objected to me only taking two of each kind aboard. > > Just when I got the suit dismissed, the EPA notified me that I could > not complete the Ark without filing an environmental impact statement > on your proposed flood. They didn't take very kindly to the idea that > they had no jurisdiction over the conduct of the Creator of the > universe. > > Then the Army Coprs of Engineers demanded a map of the proposed >new flood plain. > I sent them a globe. > > Right now, I am trying to resolve a complaint filed with the Equal > Employment Opportunity Commission that I am practicing discrimination > by not taking godless, unbelieving people aboard. > > The IRS has seized my assets, claiming that I'm building the Ark in > preparation to flee the country to avoid paying taxes. > > I just got a notice from the state that I owe them some kind of user > tax and failed to register the Ark as a "recreational watercraft." > > Finally, the ACLU got the courts to issue an injunction against further > construction of the Ark, saying that since God is flooding the earth, > it is a religious event and therefore unconstitutional. > > I really don't think I can finish the Ark for another five or six > years." Noah wailed. > > The sky began to clear, the sun began to shine and the seas began to > calm. > > A rainbow arched across the sky. Noah looked up hopefully. "You mean > you are not going to destroy the earth, Lord?" > > "No," said the Lord sadly. "I don't have to. The government already > has." > > >Jim White >Le Menagerie >www.lemenagerie.blogspot.com > >--------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From budconnor at earthlink.net Thu Mar 16 18:17:40 2006 From: budconnor at earthlink.net (Bud) Date: Thu Mar 16 18:16:41 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Mooring In-Reply-To: <4419C491.3020808@effros.com> References: <005601c64808$1919d760$6501a8c0@j7g1u2><4418193C.10707@effros.com> <001301c648a7$eea3fa60$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> <001601c64913$37327de0$5b00000a@pc108> <441991B8.9030300@effros.com> <44199C8B.8070802@earthlink.net> <4419C491.3020808@effros.com> Message-ID: <4419F214.7010005@earthlink.net> Bill, thanks for the update, I will take a closer look on frappr. -Bud Bill Effros wrote: > Sorry, Bud, > > That was a bit misleading. My boat is moored a half-mile from the > shore I can get to, but it's only 100 yards from private property. > > Much of Long Island sound is quite shallow. In my cove. There is a 9 > foot tidal variation. At low tide my boat is in 3 feet of water. At > high tide it's in 12 feet of water. While I can see Manhattan from my > mooring, I am protected from the waves in 360?, and from the wind in > roughly 320?. All of this makes much more sense if you look at the > Frappr Map. The last time I looked I had placed my boat in > approximately the right place. > > I use only the bow cleat. I have a 300 pound mushroom anchor, very > heavy chain, and line that barely fits under the cleat. The boat has > never been knocked down by either wind or waves. I have managed to > "drag" that anchor (actually, I floated it) but that had nothing to do > with either wind or waves, directly. It was a calm day. Explained > elsewhere. > > Bill Effros > > Bud Connor wrote: > >> Bill, >> at a 1/2 mile out, I assume your boat is pretty exposed - do you >> secure to the bow eye, the bow cleat or both? >> Also, does your boat ever get knocked down by big wind and waves? >> >> Thanks, >> Bud >> >> >> Bill Effros wrote: >> >>> Richard, >>> >>> I seldom use the electric because I prefer to row, however, >>> sometimes you have too much stuff, or too many people to be able to >>> efficiently row a small dinghy. In those situations I use the >>> electric. >>> >>> I use a very small battery, because I don't plan to go great >>> distances. My boat is moored a half-mile from shore. I can do a >>> half-dozen round trips on a single charge of a less than 10 pound >>> battery. I can easily store the whole shootin' match in my >>> lazarette -- and that's the real point. The only real problem is >>> when the motor and spare battery are on board when I need them on >>> land, and vice versa. >>> >>> Some years I store it on the boat. Other years I store it in the >>> basement. And somehow it seems always to be in the wrong place when >>> I need it. >>> >>> That's life, I suppose. >>> >>> Bill Effros >>> >>> Richard Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Although I never ran an energy budget on a dinghy powered by a >>>> trolling >>>> electric I abandoned the idea for practical reasons, namely because >>>> of the >>>> mass of the battery. If you are anchored out you are going to have >>>> major >>>> issues transferring a heavy lead acid battery from the Rhodes to >>>> the dink >>>> and back. >>>> >>>> Granted an electric is very appealing from an environmental >>>> standpoint but I >>>> would buy the smallest lightest outboard I could find and mount it >>>> on an 8 >>>> foot inflatable with a slat floor. A little Honda is quiet >>>> economical and >>>> easily moved about. >>>> >>>> Richard Smith >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From ekroposki at charter.net Fri Mar 17 13:55:42 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (ed kroposki) Date: Fri Mar 17 13:56:00 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW to Bill W & Bill E : ATTN: Bahamas Cruisers and Magazine Article Message-ID: <000701c649f4$67646b40$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Bill W, Below is some information about cruising in the Bahamas. Now only if you can get Chris G. to explain what it means. Bill E, Did you see the article in Good Old Boats Magazine, current issue, about sailing with kids in Florida Keys? Not that you might be interested. http://www.goodoldboat.com/ Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -----Original Message----- From: Claiborne Young [mailto:opcom@cruisingguide.com] Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:35 AM To: ekroposki@charter.net Subject: ATTN: Bahamas Cruisers Salty Southeast Supplement 3/17/06 Navigational Concerns on the Bahama's Lucayan Canal Hello Fellow Cruisers: We have just posted an important note on the Salty Southeast Cruiser's Net concerning a navigational hazard on the Lucayan Canal (in the Bahamas). Anyone who will be transiting this passage for the next several months (at least), needs to check out Ken & Darcy Searl's very timely info. To read the message, go to http://www.CruisersNet.net , and then click on the "Bahamas" navigational button along the left side of the page. Please let us know if you find this data helpful. We would also like to hear from anyone else who has had similar or dissimilar problems on these waters. On an entirely different subject, we are seeking current depth and navigational info on the ICW's run through Little Mud River, immediately north of Georgia's Altamaha sound. We have heard unhappy reports on shoaling here, but unfortunately, my research vessels will not be in position to take a personal sounding until late May. Anyone who has or has not had problems on Little Mud River, please make a posting on the Salty SE Cruiser's Net, either by sending e-mail to opcom@cruisingguide.com, or clicking on the "Contribute Cruising News" link at the top of all Cruiser's Net pages. Good luck and good cruising to everyone! Claiborne Young Watermark Publishing opcom@cruisingguide.com http://www.CruisingGuide.com http://www.CruisersNet.net From wewickman at duke-energy.com Fri Mar 17 14:49:56 2006 From: wewickman at duke-energy.com (William E. Wickman) Date: Fri Mar 17 14:50:18 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW to Bill W & Bill E : ATTN: Bahamas Cruisers and Magazine Article In-Reply-To: <000701c649f4$67646b40$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: Thanks Ed. I won't be traveling that canal, but the web site is very interesting . I was going to visit Chub Cay, but it looks like the marina there may still be closed. Bill W. "ed kroposki" To Sent by: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" rhodes22-list-bou nces@rhodes22.org cc Subject 03/17/2006 01:55 [Rhodes22-list] FW to Bill W & Bill PM E : ATTN: Bahamas Cruisers and Magazine Article Please respond to The Rhodes 22 mail list Bill W, Below is some information about cruising in the Bahamas. Now only if you can get Chris G. to explain what it means. Bill E, Did you see the article in Good Old Boats Magazine, current issue, about sailing with kids in Florida Keys? Not that you might be interested. http://www.goodoldboat.com/ Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -----Original Message----- From: Claiborne Young [mailto:opcom@cruisingguide.com] Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:35 AM To: ekroposki@charter.net Subject: ATTN: Bahamas Cruisers Salty Southeast Supplement 3/17/06 Navigational Concerns on the Bahama's Lucayan Canal Hello Fellow Cruisers: We have just posted an important note on the Salty Southeast Cruiser's Net concerning a navigational hazard on the Lucayan Canal (in the Bahamas). Anyone who will be transiting this passage for the next several months (at least), needs to check out Ken & Darcy Searl's very timely info. To read the message, go to http://www.CruisersNet.net , and then click on the "Bahamas" navigational button along the left side of the page. Please let us know if you find this data helpful. We would also like to hear from anyone else who has had similar or dissimilar problems on these waters. On an entirely different subject, we are seeking current depth and navigational info on the ICW's run through Little Mud River, immediately north of Georgia's Altamaha sound. We have heard unhappy reports on shoaling here, but unfortunately, my research vessels will not be in position to take a personal sounding until late May. Anyone who has or has not had problems on Little Mud River, please make a posting on the Salty SE Cruiser's Net, either by sending e-mail to opcom@cruisingguide.com, or clicking on the "Contribute Cruising News" link at the top of all Cruiser's Net pages. Good luck and good cruising to everyone! Claiborne Young Watermark Publishing opcom@cruisingguide.com http://www.CruisingGuide.com http://www.CruisersNet.net __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From bill at effros.com Fri Mar 17 15:04:44 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Fri Mar 17 15:04:29 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW to Bill W & Bill E : ATTN: Bahamas Cruisers and Magazine Article In-Reply-To: <000701c649f4$67646b40$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> References: <000701c649f4$67646b40$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: <441B165C.10402@effros.com> Thanks, Ed, I'm always interested. I'm just not kidding myself about going any time soon. Bill Effros ed kroposki wrote: > Bill W, > Below is some information about cruising in the Bahamas. Now only > if you can get Chris G. to explain what it means. > > Bill E, > Did you see the article in Good Old Boats Magazine, current issue, > about sailing with kids in Florida Keys? Not that you might be interested. > http://www.goodoldboat.com/ > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Claiborne Young [mailto:opcom@cruisingguide.com] > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:35 AM > To: ekroposki@charter.net > Subject: ATTN: Bahamas Cruisers > > Salty Southeast Supplement > 3/17/06 > > Navigational Concerns on the Bahama's Lucayan Canal > > Hello Fellow Cruisers: > > We have just posted an important note on the Salty Southeast Cruiser's Net > concerning a navigational hazard on the Lucayan Canal (in the Bahamas). > Anyone who will be transiting this passage for the next several months (at > least), needs to check out Ken & Darcy Searl's very timely info. > > To read the message, go to http://www.CruisersNet.net , and then click on > the "Bahamas" navigational button along the left side of the page. Please > let us know if you find this data helpful. We would also like to hear from > anyone else who has had similar or dissimilar problems on these waters. > > On an entirely different subject, we are seeking current depth and > navigational info on the ICW's run through Little Mud River, immediately > north of Georgia's Altamaha sound. We have heard unhappy reports on shoaling > here, but unfortunately, my research vessels will not be in position to take > a personal sounding until late May. Anyone who has or has not had problems > on Little Mud River, please make a posting on the Salty SE Cruiser's Net, > either by sending e-mail to opcom@cruisingguide.com, or clicking on the > "Contribute Cruising News" link at the top of all Cruiser's Net pages. > > Good luck and good cruising to everyone! > > Claiborne Young > Watermark Publishing > opcom@cruisingguide.com > http://www.CruisingGuide.com > http://www.CruisersNet.net > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From stan at rhodes22.com Sat Mar 18 09:47:51 2006 From: stan at rhodes22.com (stan) Date: Sat Mar 18 09:48:05 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] MOMENTOUS OCCASION References: <20d.13fcdd13.31442a03@aol.com> Message-ID: <01be01c64a9a$f5a729f0$c7d507d0@rhodes> To all: I am still shackled to the shingles but had to come in for (ho hum) another prospect so want to take this time to thank you all for all your kind comments. But as I mentioned on similar past occasions, I only had one birthday and that was on 3/11/26 at which point I no longer wanted to count the years. All I want to know about my age is that I am younger than Rose. Thanks again - you have all made the pains of this business worth it. stan ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] MOMENTOUS OCCASION > Stan, > How old are you? > > Rrrrrrrrrummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From geocarp3 at mchsi.com Wed Mar 15 11:35:24 2006 From: geocarp3 at mchsi.com (George Carpenter) Date: Sat Mar 18 10:39:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint Message-ID: <000601c64856$d82c5850$9d39d80c@GEOCARP3> With spring coming (hopefully) I need to repaint my recycled '91 Rhodes 22 which I took delivery on last April. I sail on a fresh (?) water lake in Iowa. Any suggestions??? From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Sat Mar 18 11:24:42 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Sat Mar 18 11:26:44 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] health and jokes Message-ID: <01ea01c64aa8$7640d7c0$6401a8c0@mjm2> During a BBQ a friend stumbled and took a little fall - she assured everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) and just tripped over a brick because of her new shoes. They got her cleaned up and got her a new plate of food - while she appeared a bit shaken up, Ingrid went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening. Ingrid's husband called later telling everyone that his wife had been taken to the hospital - (at 6:00pm, Ingrid passed away.) She had suffered a stroke at the BBQ - had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke perhaps Ingrid would be with us today. It only takes a minute to read this- ----- A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed and getting to the patient within 3 hours, which is tough. RECOGNIZING A STROKE 3 steps. Read and Learn! Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke. Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions: 1. Ask the individual to SMILE. 2. Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS. 3. Ask the person to SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently) (i.e. . . It is sunny out today) If he or she has trouble with any of these tasks, call 9-1-1 immediately and describe the symptoms to the dispatcher. After discovering that a group of non-medical volunteers could identify facial weakness, arm weakness and speech problems, researchers urged the general public to learn the three questions. They presented their conclusions at the American Stroke Association's (Mumf note: I should belong to the ". Stroke Association"!) annual meeting last February. Widespread use of this test could result in prompt diagnosis and treatment of the stroke and prevent brain damage. ----------- A young man married a beautiful woman who had previously divorced ten husbands. On their wedding night, she told her new husband, "Please be gentle; I'm still a virgin." "What?" said the puzzled groom. "How can that be if you've been married ten times?" "Well, husband #1 was a Sales Representative; he kept telling me how great it was going to be. Husband #2 was in Software Services; he was never really sure how it was supposed to function, but he said he'd look into it and get back to me. Husband #3 was from Field Services; he said everything checked out diagnostically but he just couldn't get the system up. Husband #4 was in Telemarketing; even though he knew he had the order, he didn't know when he would be able to deliver. Husband #5 was an Engineer, he understood the basic process but wanted three years to research, implement, and design a new state-of-the-art method. "Husband #6 was from Administration; he thought he knew how, but he wasn't sure whether it was his job or not. Husband #7 was in Marketing; although he had a product, he was never sure how to position it. Husband #8 was a psychiatrist; all he ever did was talk about it. Husband #9 was a gynecologist; all he did was look. Husband #10 was a stamp collector; all he ever did was.... God, I miss him!" "But now that I've married you, I'm so excited!" "Wonderful," said the husband, "but, why?" "You're with the Government.... This time I KNOW I'm gonna get screwed!!!" -- An elderly Floridian called 911 on her cell phone to report that her car has been broken into. She is hysterical as she explains her situation to the dispatcher: "They've stolen the stereo, the steering wheel, the brake pedal and even the accelerator!" she cried. The dispatcher said, "Stay calm. An officer is on the way." A few minutes later, the officer radios in. "Disregard.", He says. "She got in the back-seat by mistake." __________________________________________ FAMILY Three sisters age! s 92, 94 and 96 live in a house together. One night the 96 year old draws a bath. She puts her foot in and pauses. She yells to the other sisters, "Was I getting in or out of the bath?" The 94 year old yells back, "I don't know. I'll come up and see." She starts up the stairs and pauses. "Was I going up the stairs or down?" The 92 year old is sitting at the kitchen table having tea listening to her sisters. She shakes her head and says, "I sure hope I never get that forgetful, knocking on wood." She then yells, "I'll come up and help both of you as soon as I see who's at the door." _______________________________________________ "I CAN HEAR JUST FINE!" Three retirees, each with a hearing loss, were playing golf one fine March day. One remarked to the other, "Windy, isn't it?" "No," the second man replied, ! "it's Thursday." And the third man chimed in, "So am I. Let's have a beer." ___________________________________________ WHAT A CHOICE A little old lady was running up and down the halls in a nursing home. As she walked, she would flip up the hem of her nightgown and say, "Supersex." She walked up to an elderly man in a wheelchair. Flipping her gown at him, she said, "Supersex." He sat silently for a moment or two and finally answered, "I'll take the soup." ____________________________________________ OLD FRIENDS Two elderly ladies had been friends for many decades. Over the years, they had shared all kinds of activities and adventures. Lately, their activities had been limited to meeting a few times a week to play cards. One day, they were playing cards when one looked at the other and said, "Now don't get mad at me . I know we've been friends for a long time, but I just can't think of your name! I've thought and thought, but I can't remember it. Please tell me what your name is." Her friend glared at her. For at least three minutes she just stared and glared at her. Finally she said, "How soon do you need to know?" _____________________________________________ SENIOR DRIVING As a senior citizen was driving down the freeway, his car phone rang. Answering, he heard his wife's voice urgently warning him, "Herman, I just heard on the news that there's a car going the wrong way on Interstate 77. Please be careful!" "Hell," said Herman, "It's not just one car. It's hundreds of them!" ______________________________________________ DRIVING Two elderly women were out driving in a large car, both could barely see over the dashboard. As they were cruising along, they came to an intersection. The stoplight was red, but they just went on through. The woman in the passenger seat thought to herself "I must be losing it. I could have sworn we just went through a red light." After a few more minutes, they came to another intersection and the light was red again. Again, they went right through. The woman in the passenger seat was almost sure that the light had been red but was really concerned that she was losing it. She was getting nervous. At the next intersection, sure enough, the light was red and they went on through. So, she turned to the other woman and said, "Mildred, do you know that we just ran through three red lights in a row? You could have killed us both!" Mildred turned to her and said, "Crap, am I driving?" -- 1. When his 38-caliber revolver failed to fire at his intended victim during a hold-up in Long Beach, California, would-be robber James Elliot did something that can only inspire wonder. He peered down the barrel and tried the trigger again. This time it worked 2. The chef at a hotel in Switzerland lost a finger in a meat-cutting machine and, after a little shopping around, submitted a claim to his insurance company. The company expecting negligence sent out one of its men to have a look for himself. He tried the machine and he also lost a finger. The chef's claim was approved. 3. A man who shoveled snow for an hour to clear a space for his car during a blizzard in Chicago returned with his vehicle to find a woman had taken the space. Understandably, he shot her. 4. After stopping for drinks at an illegal bar, a Zimbabwean bus driver found that the 20 mental patients he was supposed to be transporting from Harare to Bulawayo had escaped. Not wanting to admit his incompetence, the driver went to a nearby bus stop and offered everyone waiting there a free ride. He then delivered the passengers to mental hospital, telling the staff that the patients were very excitable and prone to bizarre fantasies The deception wasn't discovered for 3 days. 5. An American teenager was in the hospital recovering from serious head wounds received from an oncoming train. When asked how he received the injuries, the lad told police that he was simply trying to see how close he could get his head to a moving train before he was hit. 6. A man walked into a Louisiana Circle-K, put a $20 bill on the counter, and asked for change. When the clerk opened the cash drawer, he man pulled a gun and asked for all the cash in the register, which the clerk promptly provided. The man took the cash from the clerk and fled, leaving the $20 bill on the counter. The total amount of cash he got from the drawer...$15. (If someone points a gun at you and gives you money, is a crime committed?) 7. Seems an Arkansas guy wanted some beer pretty badly. He decided that he'd just throw a cinderblock through a liquor store window, grab some booze, and run. So he lifted the cinderblock and heaved it over his head at the window. The cinderblock bounced back and hit the would-be thief on the head, knocking him unconscious. The liquor store window was made of Plexiglas. The whole event was caught on videotape. (Mumf note: I've actually sent the video of this around in the past) 8. As a female shopper exited a New York convenience store, a man grabbed her purse and ran. The clerk called 911 immediately, and the woman was able to give them a detailed description of the snatcher. Within minutes, the police apprehended the snatcher. They put him in the car and drove back to the store. The thief was then taken out of the car and told to stand there for a positive ID. To which he replied, "Yes, officer, that's her. That's the lady I stole the purse from." 9. The Ann Arbor News crime column reported that a man walked into a Burger King in Ypsilanti, Michigan, at 5 a.m., flashed a gun, and demanded cash. The clerk turned him down because he said he couldn't open the cash register without a food order. When the man ordered onion rings, the clerk said they weren't available for breakfast. The man, frustrated, walked away. 10. When a man attempted to siphon gasoline from a motor home parked on a Seattle street, he got much more than he bargained for. Police arrived at the scene to find a very sick man curled up next to a motor home near spilled sewage. A police spokesman said that the man admitted to trying to steal gasoline and plugged his siphon hose into the motor home's sewage tank by mistake. The owner of the vehicle declined to press charges, saying that it was the best laugh he'd ever had. From gravityleak at isp.com Sat Mar 18 13:34:43 2006 From: gravityleak at isp.com (Rick Lange) Date: Sat Mar 18 13:34:25 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint In-Reply-To: <000601c64856$d82c5850$9d39d80c@GEOCARP3> References: <000601c64856$d82c5850$9d39d80c@GEOCARP3> Message-ID: <1204.4.159.101.139.1142706883.squirrel@www.isp.com> George, Interlux VC 17 works great in Lake Erie. Scum and Zebra Mussels are our problem and it keeps them both off for a couple years if you apply two coats. Very easy to roll on and just use rubbing alcohol to thin & clean up. Also, great for trailering since it can dry out without harm. Rick On Wed, March 15, 2006 12:35 pm, George Carpenter said: > With spring coming (hopefully) I need to repaint my recycled '91 Rhodes 22 > which I took delivery on last April. I sail on a fresh (?) water lake in > Iowa. Any suggestions??? > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > ----------------------------------------- Join ISP.COM today - $8.95 internet , less than 1/2 the cost of AOL Try us out, http://www.isp.com/ From cccox at mindspring.com Sun Mar 19 13:43:37 2006 From: cccox at mindspring.com (Claude Cox) Date: Sun Mar 19 13:43:46 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] health and jokes Message-ID: <380-220063019184337946@mindspring.com> good health tip Michael, thanks. As one who is soon to celebrate a "speed limit" birthday, I especially liked the aging jokes. Claude > [Original Message] > From: Michel Meltzer > To: > Date: 3/18/2006 11:26:45 AM > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] health and jokes > > During a BBQ a friend stumbled and took a little fall - she assured > everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) and just > tripped over a brick because of her new shoes. They got her cleaned up > and got her a new plate of food - while she appeared a bit shaken up, > Ingrid went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening. Ingrid's > husband called later telling everyone that his wife had been taken to > the hospital - (at 6:00pm, Ingrid passed away.) She had suffered a > stroke at the BBQ - had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke > perhaps Ingrid would be with us today. > > It only takes a minute to read this- ----- A neurologist says that if he > can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the > effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke > recognized, diagnosed and getting to the patient within 3 hours, which > is tough. > > RECOGNIZING A STROKE 3 steps. Read and Learn! Sometimes symptoms of a > stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness > spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer brain damage when people > nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke. Now doctors say a > bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions: > > 1. Ask the individual to SMILE. > 2. Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS. > 3. Ask the person to SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently) (i.e. . . It > is sunny out today) > > If he or she has trouble with any of these tasks, call 9-1-1 immediately > and describe the symptoms to the dispatcher. After discovering that a > group of non-medical volunteers could identify facial weakness, arm > weakness and speech problems, researchers urged the general public to > learn the three questions. They presented their conclusions at the > American Stroke Association's (Mumf note: I should belong to the ". > Stroke Association"!) annual meeting last February. Widespread use of > this test could result in prompt diagnosis and treatment of the stroke > and prevent brain damage. > > ----------- > > > > > A young man married a beautiful woman who had previously divorced ten > husbands. On their wedding night, she told her new husband, "Please be > gentle; I'm still a virgin." > > "What?" said the puzzled groom. "How can that be if you've been married > ten times?" > > "Well, husband #1 was a Sales Representative; he kept telling me how > great it was going to be. Husband #2 was in Software Services; he was > never really sure how it was supposed to function, but he said he'd look > into it and get back to me. Husband #3 was from Field Services; he said > everything checked out diagnostically but he just couldn't get the > system up. Husband #4 was in Telemarketing; even though he knew he had > the order, he didn't know when he would be able to deliver. Husband #5 > was an Engineer, he understood the basic process but wanted three years > to research, implement, and design a new state-of-the-art method. > > "Husband #6 was from Administration; he thought he knew how, but he > wasn't sure whether it was his job or not. Husband #7 was in Marketing; > although he had a product, he was never sure how to position it. Husband > #8 was a psychiatrist; all he ever did was talk about it. Husband #9 was > a gynecologist; all he did was look. Husband #10 was a stamp collector; > all he ever did was.... God, I miss him!" > > "But now that I've married you, I'm so excited!" > > "Wonderful," said the husband, "but, why?" > > "You're with the Government.... This time I KNOW I'm gonna get > screwed!!!" > > > -- > An elderly Floridian called 911 on her cell phone to report that her car > has been broken into. She is hysterical as she explains her situation to > the dispatcher: "They've stolen the stereo, the steering wheel, the > brake pedal and even the accelerator!" she cried. > > The dispatcher said, "Stay calm. An officer is on the way." > > A few minutes later, the officer radios in. "Disregard.", He says. "She > got in the back-seat by mistake." > > __________________________________________ > FAMILY > Three sisters age! s 92, 94 and 96 live in a house together. One night > the 96 year old draws a bath. She puts her foot in and pauses. She yells > to the other sisters, "Was I getting in or out of the bath?" The 94 year > old yells back, "I don't know. I'll come up and see." She starts up the > stairs and pauses. "Was I going up the stairs or down?" The 92 year old > is sitting at the kitchen table having tea listening to her sisters. She > shakes her head and says, "I sure hope I never get that forgetful, > knocking on wood." She then yells, "I'll come up and help both of you as > soon as I see who's at the door." > _______________________________________________ > "I CAN HEAR JUST FINE!" > Three retirees, each with a hearing loss, were playing golf one fine > March day. One remarked to the other, "Windy, isn't it?" "No," the > second man replied, ! "it's Thursday." And the third man chimed in, "So > am I. Let's have a beer." > ___________________________________________ > WHAT A CHOICE > A little old lady was running up and down the halls in a nursing home. > As she walked, she would flip up the hem of her nightgown and say, > "Supersex." She walked up to an elderly man in a wheelchair. Flipping > her gown at him, she said, "Supersex." He sat silently for a moment or > two and finally answered, "I'll take the soup." > ____________________________________________ > OLD FRIENDS > Two elderly ladies had been friends for many decades. Over the years, > they had shared all kinds of activities and adventures. Lately, their > activities had been limited to meeting a few times a week to play cards. > One day, they were playing cards when one looked at the other and said, > "Now don't get mad at me . I know we've been friends for a long time, > but I just can't think of your name! I've thought and thought, but I > can't remember it. Please tell me what your name is." Her friend glared > at her. For at least three minutes she just stared and glared at her. > Finally she said, "How soon do you need to know?" > _____________________________________________ > SENIOR DRIVING > As a senior citizen was driving down the freeway, his car phone rang. > Answering, he heard his wife's voice urgently warning him, "Herman, I > just heard on the news that there's a car going the wrong way on > Interstate 77. Please be careful!" "Hell," said Herman, "It's not just > one car. It's hundreds of them!" > ______________________________________________ > DRIVING > Two elderly women were out driving in a large car, both could barely see > over the dashboard. As they were cruising along, they came to an > intersection. The stoplight was red, but they just went on through. The > woman in the passenger seat thought to herself "I must be losing it. I > could have sworn we just went through a red light." After a few more > minutes, they came to another intersection and the light was red again. > Again, they went right through. The woman in the passenger seat was > almost sure that the light had been red but was really concerned that > she was losing it. She was getting nervous. At the next intersection, > sure enough, the light was red and they went on through. So, she turned > to the other woman and said, "Mildred, do you know that we just ran > through three red lights in a row? You could have killed us both!" > Mildred turned to her and said, "Crap, am I driving?" > > > > -- > 1. When his 38-caliber revolver failed to fire at his intended victim > during a hold-up in Long Beach, California, would-be robber James Elliot > did something that can only inspire wonder. He peered down the barrel > and tried the trigger again. This time it worked > > 2. The chef at a hotel in Switzerland lost a finger in a meat-cutting > machine and, after a little shopping around, submitted a claim to his > insurance company. The company expecting negligence sent out one of its > men to have a look for himself. He tried the machine and he also lost a > finger. The chef's claim was approved. > > 3. A man who shoveled snow for an hour to clear a space for his car > during a blizzard in Chicago returned with his vehicle to find a woman > had taken the space. Understandably, he shot her. > > 4. After stopping for drinks at an illegal bar, a Zimbabwean bus driver > found that the 20 mental patients he was supposed to be transporting > from Harare to Bulawayo had escaped. Not wanting to admit his > incompetence, the driver went to a nearby bus stop and offered everyone > waiting there a free ride. He then delivered the passengers to mental > hospital, telling the staff that the patients were very excitable and > prone to bizarre fantasies The deception wasn't discovered for 3 days. > > 5. An American teenager was in the hospital recovering from serious > head wounds received from an oncoming train. When asked how he received > the injuries, the lad told police that he was simply trying to see how > close he could get his head to a moving train before he was hit. > > 6. A man walked into a Louisiana Circle-K, put a $20 bill on the > counter, and asked for change. When the clerk opened the cash drawer, he > man pulled a gun and asked for all the cash in the register, which the > clerk promptly provided. The man took the cash from the clerk and fled, > leaving the $20 bill on the counter. The total amount of cash he got > from the drawer...$15. (If someone points a gun at you and gives you > money, is a crime committed?) > > 7. Seems an Arkansas guy wanted some beer pretty badly. He decided that > he'd just throw a cinderblock through a liquor store window, grab some > booze, and run. So he lifted the cinderblock and heaved it over his head > at the window. The cinderblock bounced back and hit the would-be thief > on the head, knocking him unconscious. The liquor store window was made > of Plexiglas. The whole event was caught on videotape. (Mumf note: I've > actually sent the video of this around in the past) > > 8. As a female shopper exited a New York convenience store, a man > grabbed her purse and ran. The clerk called 911 immediately, and the > woman was able to give them a detailed description of the snatcher. > Within minutes, the police apprehended the snatcher. They put him in the > car and drove back to the store. The thief was then taken out of the car > and told to stand there for a positive ID. To which he replied, "Yes, > officer, that's her. That's the lady I stole the purse from." > > 9. The Ann Arbor News crime column reported that a man walked into a > Burger King in Ypsilanti, Michigan, at 5 a.m., flashed a gun, and > demanded cash. The clerk turned him down because he said he couldn't > open the cash register without a food order. When the man ordered onion > rings, the clerk said they weren't available for breakfast. The man, > frustrated, walked away. > > 10. When a man attempted to siphon gasoline from a motor home parked on > a Seattle street, he got much more than he bargained for. Police arrived > at the scene to find a very sick man curled up next to a motor home near > spilled sewage. A police spokesman said that the man admitted to trying > to steal gasoline and plugged his siphon hose into the motor home's > sewage tank by mistake. The owner of the vehicle declined to press > charges, saying that it was the best laugh he'd ever had. > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Mon Mar 20 22:06:53 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Mon Mar 20 22:08:49 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] jokes Message-ID: <005401c64c94$812fc4a0$6401a8c0@mjm2> Not a very good one, but I got 3 email from people wondering why they are off the list :-) They never seen a quite period or thought the list might be talked out :-) -mjm Blonde's Year in Review January - Took new scarf back to store because it was too tight. February - Fired from pharmacy job for failing to print labels..."duh"... bottles won't fit in typewriter!!! March - Got excited... finished jigsaw puzzle in 6 months... box said "2-4 years!" April - Trapped on escalator for hours... power went out!!! May - Tried to make Kool-Aid... 8 cups of water won't fit into those little packets!!! June - Tried to go water skiing... couldn't find a lake with a slope. July - Lost breast stroke swimming competition... learned later, other swimmers cheated, they used their arms!!! August - Got locked out of car in rain storm... car swamped, because top was down. September - The capital of California is "C"...isn't it??? October - Hate M & M's... they are so hard to peel. November - Baked turkey for 4 1/2 days... instructions said 1 hour per pound and I weigh 108!!! December - Couldn't call 911... "duh"... there's no "eleven" button on the phone!!! From napoli68 at charter.net Mon Mar 20 23:54:20 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Tue Mar 21 02:33:43 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Some Greek Sailing References: <005401c64c94$812fc4a0$6401a8c0@mjm2> Message-ID: <000a01c64cbc$aa2d5ca0$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Hmm it is pretty quiet. Perhaps Some Greek, sailing (along). is a better title. With the new hardrive and the transfer of my old files I came accross this letter/story I e-mailed to my son a couple of years ago when he went sailing from Turkey to NW Greece. I retyped a story that I had written when I was in college in Germany. (I got a "B" for content and "C-" for conventions). It is a story of when I was sailing over in Greece 30 years ago and is pretty much unedited except for minor corrections in obvious mispellings and punctuations. At the time I was sailing an 18 food wooden Lightning class sailboat. I spent several summers sailing from Naples Italy to the Turkish border in the boat. I had not shared the story taken from my journals with my son but felt since he would be in the same area he might enjoy it. He did. I hope you guys will too. It is a PDF and is a number of pages long so don't try reading it all in a stitting. The note to my son Nick holds true for you guys too. Chris G S/V Enosis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Meltzer" To: Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:06 PM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] jokes > Not a very good one, but I got 3 email from people wondering why they > are off the list :-) They never seen a quite period or thought the list > might be talked out :-) > > -mjm > > > > -------------- next part -------------- Name: Vayu's PDF Primo.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 134994 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/21/VayusPDFPrimo.pdf From sprocket80 at mail.com Tue Mar 21 06:16:18 2006 From: sprocket80 at mail.com (Todd Tavares) Date: Tue Mar 21 06:13:38 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another e-bay boat Message-ID: <20060321111618.366A01154E0@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> There is another Rhodes 22 on e-bay today. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4623868054&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From ellner at pressenter.com Tue Mar 21 07:24:49 2006 From: ellner at pressenter.com (Ellner) Date: Tue Mar 21 08:25:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Some Greek Sailing In-Reply-To: <000a01c64cbc$aa2d5ca0$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> References: <005401c64c94$812fc4a0$6401a8c0@mjm2> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20060321072406.032eb7d0@pop.pressenter.com> Chris: Thanks for sharing! Mary *& Rod At 11:54 PM 3/20/2006 -0800, you wrote: >Hmm it is pretty quiet. Perhaps Some Greek, sailing (along). is a better >title. With the new hardrive and the transfer of my old files I came >accross this letter/story I e-mailed to my son a couple of years ago when he >went sailing from Turkey to NW Greece. I retyped a story that I had written >when I was in college in Germany. (I got a "B" for content and "C-" for >conventions). It is a story of when I was sailing over in Greece 30 years >ago and is pretty much unedited except for minor corrections in obvious >mispellings and punctuations. At the time I was sailing an 18 food wooden >Lightning class sailboat. I spent several summers sailing from Naples Italy >to the Turkish border in the boat. I had not shared the story taken from my >journals with my son but felt since he would be in the same area he might >enjoy it. He did. I hope you guys will too. It is a PDF and is a number >of pages long so don't try reading it all in a stitting. The note to my son >Nick holds true for you guys too. > >Chris G >S/V Enosis >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michel Meltzer" >To: >Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:06 PM >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] jokes > > > > Not a very good one, but I got 3 email from people wondering why they > > are off the list :-) They never seen a quite period or thought the list > > might be talked out :-) > > > > -mjm > > > > > > > > >Name: Vayu's PDF Primo.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 134994 bytes Desc: >not available >Url: >http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/21/VayusPDFPrimo.pdf >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Tue Mar 21 09:02:12 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (ed kroposki) Date: Tue Mar 21 09:02:38 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd's eBay boat Message-ID: <000001c64cf0$12781740$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Todd said another eBay boat at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4623868 054&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT It appears in better condition that the recent Florida boat. Maybe Bob Weber is interested since he appears closest. Michael, Is Nabble blocked out? I sent reply by Nabble earlier and it never posted. Ed K From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 21 09:55:52 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Tue Mar 21 10:56:00 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd's eBay boat In-Reply-To: <000001c64cf0$12781740$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: I took a look at it. If it wasn't for this blasted day job I would have time to get it is sailing condition and put in service as a rental for my sailing school graduates. The "no head sail" adds about another 1400 to the bill since I will never have a hank on jib again. Thanks for thinking of me. As hard as I try to find a bargain, Stan still seems like the best bet in term of value. At first the price seems expensive but when you factor in things like time (something I have very little of) and parts to bring the boat up to sailing / enjoying condition, his pricing is right on the mark. Thanks for looking out for me. Bob Weber >From: "ed kroposki" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd's eBay boat >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:02:12 -0500 > >Todd said another eBay boat at: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4623868 >054&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT > > It appears in better condition that the recent Florida boat. > > Maybe Bob Weber is interested since he appears closest. > >Michael, > Is Nabble blocked out? I sent reply by Nabble earlier and it never >posted. > >Ed K > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From DCLewis1 at aol.com Tue Mar 21 11:52:18 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 21 11:52:30 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chesapeake Sailing Message-ID: <26e.804a7a1.31518942@aol.com> Well, the list is kind of quiet, so I thought I?d offer a small tidbit. My wife and I were off looking for retirement locales - again. This time we looped over to Kilmarnock and Urbanna Va before heading to Edenton, Washington NC and New Bern. A friend had told us about Kilmarnock. Kilmarnock and Urbanna are down near Norfolk, about 1/2 hour to 45 min driving time north of Williamsburg Va. We didn?t think there was much to Kilmarnock. Maybe we missed the good parts, but my sense is was that entire part of Virginia is very rural, and Kilmarnock is the ?large town? that supports that part of the world. Dealerships selling farm machinery, that sort of thing. There were a few housing developments, but no substantial infrastructure, and we didn?t see a marina although many people had boats parked in their front yards. Urbanna was different. It appears to be a much smaller town but it?s right on the water near the mouth of the Rappahannock river. There were at least 2 substantial dock areas and a boat yard. Lots of sailboats. It impressed us as a quaint little town - not in the sense of New Bern which is much larger and ?colonial?, but more like something from the 1950s. I doubt that there is anything to do at night in Urbanna, other than count the stars, but it's a quaint little town and there may be as many boats in it's marinas as there are homes in the town. If you?re cruising the southern part of the Chesapeake, this might be of interest. Dave From thescubatank at cox.net Tue Mar 21 12:46:20 2006 From: thescubatank at cox.net (thescubatank@cox.net) Date: Tue Mar 21 12:46:48 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chesapeake Sailing Message-ID: <20060321174638.KVDT14821.eastrmmtao02.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> Thanks Dave, I will check it out as soon as Ad Astra is in the water in another month. Should make a good weekend trip. Have you decided on a retirement place yet? Steve & Annette A/V Ad Astra Chesapeake, VA > > From: DCLewis1@aol.com > Date: 2006/03/21 Tue AM 11:52:18 EST > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chesapeake Sailing > > > Well, the list is kind of quiet, so I thought I?d offer a small tidbit. My > wife and I were off looking for retirement locales - again. This time we > looped over to Kilmarnock and Urbanna Va before heading to Edenton, Washington > NC and New Bern. A friend had told us about Kilmarnock. Kilmarnock and > Urbanna are down near Norfolk, about 1/2 hour to 45 min driving time north of > Williamsburg Va. > > We didn?t think there was much to Kilmarnock. Maybe we missed the good > parts, but my sense is was that entire part of Virginia is very rural, and > Kilmarnock is the ?large town? that supports that part of the world. Dealerships > selling farm machinery, that sort of thing. There were a few housing > developments, but no substantial infrastructure, and we didn?t see a marina although > many people had boats parked in their front yards. > > Urbanna was different. It appears to be a much smaller town but it?s right > on the water near the mouth of the Rappahannock river. There were at least 2 > substantial dock areas and a boat yard. Lots of sailboats. It impressed us > as a quaint little town - not in the sense of New Bern which is much larger > and ?colonial?, but more like something from the 1950s. I doubt that there > is anything to do at night in Urbanna, other than count the stars, but it's a > quaint little town and there may be as many boats in it's marinas as there > are homes in the town. > > If you?re cruising the southern part of the Chesapeake, this might be of > interest. > > Dave > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From DCLewis1 at aol.com Tue Mar 21 13:29:14 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 21 13:29:27 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chesapeake Sailing Message-ID: <2c3.5cf9de1.31519ffa@aol.com> Steve, The retirement locale saga goes on, but I think we?re getting close (I hope). We?ve been through a long list of places. The remaining ?look? area includes the lakes: Hartwell, Keowee, Lanier, Norman, Jordan, etc. I think we ought to check at least some of them out. One problem with the lakes is that climatologically southern lakes map to substantially more northern coastal areas that are closer to kith and kin. For example, Hartwell would map to Washington NC; so what?s the inducement - apart from the lack of hurricanes. But we?ll see. There are so many dimensions to this issue that there probably is no single ?right? answer. Actually, if there were a single right answer everyone would likely move to that area, and it would no longer be the right answer. By the way, we did check out Jax and the St Johns on our previous junket and I fully agree with your assessment, it looks like it would be a great place to sail. We spent some time at the waterfront area down town, it was delightful. The problem we saw was not the sailing, but rather that Jacksonville is a genuinely busy commercial city with lots of traffic, etc. If you were based out of there by reason of employment, I imagine it would be a great place to sail from; but if you had your choice of where to live and sail from we thought a little more laid back area might be better. Thanks for your insights though, they were helpful. We?re supposed to get snow today in Washington, maybe I should reconsider Jax. Dave From ekroposki at charter.net Tue Mar 21 13:25:27 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Tue Mar 21 16:25:34 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave's retirement Saga In-Reply-To: <2c3.5cf9de1.31519ffa@aol.com> References: <26e.804a7a1.31518942@aol.com> <20060321174638.KVDT14821.eastrmmtao02.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> <2c3.5cf9de1.31519ffa@aol.com> Message-ID: <3521364.post@talk.nabble.com> Dave, You must be in dilapidated shape with all this talk of retirement. Maybe a retirement home is more in order. Just look at Stan, other than itching he wants to get back to work. I did not realize that you are older than Stan. Jordan? so Israel and the west bank are on your list? Let us help you eliminate further need for travel. Lake Lanier is a suburb of Atlanta. If you want to be in the suburbs of Atlanta, so be it. I can guarantee lots of traffic. Lake Norman is a suburb of Charlotte. I-77 cannot be widened fast enough. North Carolina builds apartments faster than highways. As for Hartwell, it is too rural, too many rednecks, snakes and alligators for civilized life. Have you considered other foreign countries? Take a visit to Ukraine, like I did last year. Odessa is on the Black Sea, must be able to sail. Yalta really sticks out into the sea and is famous as a resort. Chris said there was good sailing in Italy. Where else is there? How about Australia or New Zealand? Ed K In the land of the Formosan Termites. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Chesapeake-Sailing-t1318469.html#a3521364 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu Tue Mar 21 16:40:49 2006 From: lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu (Lou Rosenberg) Date: Tue Mar 21 16:44:28 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new wood and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover anyone might recommend?? velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. Lou >I took a look at it. If it wasn't for this blasted day job I would >have time to get it is sailing condition and put in service as a >rental for my sailing school graduates. The "no head sail" adds >about another 1400 to the bill since I will never have a hank on jib >again. Thanks for thinking of me. As hard as I try to find a >bargain, Stan still seems like the best bet in term of value. At >first the price seems expensive but when you factor in things like >time (something I have very little of) and parts to bring the boat >up to sailing / enjoying condition, his pricing is right on the >mark. Thanks for looking out for me. Bob Weber > >>From: "ed kroposki" >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd's eBay boat >>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:02:12 -0500 >> >>Todd said another eBay boat at: >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4623868 >>054&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT >> >> It appears in better condition that the recent Florida boat. >> >> Maybe Bob Weber is interested since he appears closest. >> >>Michael, >> Is Nabble blocked out? I sent reply by Nabble earlier and it never >>posted. >> >>Ed K >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 21 16:05:05 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Tue Mar 21 17:05:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lou, All the bunks I have seen have outdoor carpent as padding. Will last many seasons and is easily replaced when worn. Bob Weber >From: Lou Rosenberg >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:40:49 -0500 > > I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. > > My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new wood and >resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover anyone might >recommend?? > velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. > and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its probably in >better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. > safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. > Lou > > >>I took a look at it. If it wasn't for this blasted day job I would have >>time to get it is sailing condition and put in service as a rental for my >>sailing school graduates. The "no head sail" adds about another 1400 to >>the bill since I will never have a hank on jib again. Thanks for thinking >>of me. As hard as I try to find a bargain, Stan still seems like the best >>bet in term of value. At first the price seems expensive but when you >>factor in things like time (something I have very little of) and parts to >>bring the boat up to sailing / enjoying condition, his pricing is right on >>the mark. Thanks for looking out for me. Bob Weber >> >>>From: "ed kroposki" >>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd's eBay boat >>>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:02:12 -0500 >>> >>>Todd said another eBay boat at: >>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4623868 >>>054&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT >>> >>> It appears in better condition that the recent Florida boat. >>> >>> Maybe Bob Weber is interested since he appears closest. >>> >>>Michael, >>> Is Nabble blocked out? I sent reply by Nabble earlier and it never >>>posted. >>> >>>Ed K >>> >>>__________________________________________________ >>>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From thescubatank at cox.net Tue Mar 21 17:14:36 2006 From: thescubatank at cox.net (thescubatank@cox.net) Date: Tue Mar 21 17:15:20 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk Message-ID: <20060321221510.IEOW4894.eastrmmtao01.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> Lou, When I bought a trailer for Ad Astra, I built bunks out of pressure treated 2x6 and used marine carpet on them. They have really held up over the past year. Steve S/V Ad Astra > > From: Lou Rosenberg > Date: 2006/03/21 Tue PM 04:40:49 EST > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > > I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. > > My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new wood > and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover > anyone might recommend?? > velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. > and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its > probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. > safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. > Lou > > > >I took a look at it. If it wasn't for this blasted day job I would > >have time to get it is sailing condition and put in service as a > >rental for my sailing school graduates. The "no head sail" adds > >about another 1400 to the bill since I will never have a hank on jib > >again. Thanks for thinking of me. As hard as I try to find a > >bargain, Stan still seems like the best bet in term of value. At > >first the price seems expensive but when you factor in things like > >time (something I have very little of) and parts to bring the boat > >up to sailing / enjoying condition, his pricing is right on the > >mark. Thanks for looking out for me. Bob Weber > > > >>From: "ed kroposki" > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd's eBay boat > >>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:02:12 -0500 > >> > >>Todd said another eBay boat at: > >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4623868 > >>054&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT > >> > >> It appears in better condition that the recent Florida boat. > >> > >> Maybe Bob Weber is interested since he appears closest. > >> > >>Michael, > >> Is Nabble blocked out? I sent reply by Nabble earlier and it never > >>posted. > >> > >>Ed K > >> > >>__________________________________________________ > >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From pthorn at nc.rr.com Tue Mar 21 17:21:08 2006 From: pthorn at nc.rr.com (Peter Thorn) Date: Tue Mar 21 17:21:59 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk References: Message-ID: <00c101c64d35$c0f22d20$7e0fa8c0@dell330> Lou, I know you want to "do it right once", so get clear #1 (no knots) Pressure Treated Southern Yellow Pine (PTSYP) for the bunks (2x6). It's the strongest softwood and will spread the load much better than the white Larch Michael used on my 2003 Triad. Stan suggested cantilevering the new bunks 12" fore and aft past the steel support posts. It's a good idea and worked very well. PT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Rosenberg" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. > > My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new wood > and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover > anyone might recommend?? > velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. > and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its > probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. > safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. > Lou > > > >I took a look at it. If it wasn't for this blasted day job I would > >have time to get it is sailing condition and put in service as a > >rental for my sailing school graduates. The "no head sail" adds > >about another 1400 to the bill since I will never have a hank on jib > >again. Thanks for thinking of me. As hard as I try to find a > >bargain, Stan still seems like the best bet in term of value. At > >first the price seems expensive but when you factor in things like > >time (something I have very little of) and parts to bring the boat > >up to sailing / enjoying condition, his pricing is right on the > >mark. Thanks for looking out for me. Bob Weber > > > >>From: "ed kroposki" > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd's eBay boat > >>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:02:12 -0500 > >> > >>Todd said another eBay boat at: > >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=46238 68 > >>054&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT > >> > >> It appears in better condition that the recent Florida boat. > >> > >> Maybe Bob Weber is interested since he appears closest. > >> > >>Michael, > >> Is Nabble blocked out? I sent reply by Nabble earlier and it never > >>posted. > >> > >>Ed K > >> > >>__________________________________________________ > >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From roryorkin at earthlink.net Tue Mar 21 14:31:08 2006 From: roryorkin at earthlink.net (Rory Orkin) Date: Tue Mar 21 19:23:28 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Minimum mooring depth ?? Message-ID: <005d01c64d1e$010c51a0$6901a8c0@HPRORY> I am considering rhodes 22 which draws 20 inches. board up. I have 40" of water .. low tide winter..at my dock with a slip I could tie up at.. I am concerned that unusual weather or tide could cause keel to pound bottom..It is sand or mud bottom but does give me concern. I am Not here all the time to tend it. Anyone have any experience securing boat in similar conditions ?? Thanks Rory Orkin From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Tue Mar 21 20:11:45 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Tue Mar 21 20:13:40 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Minimum mooring depth ?? In-Reply-To: <005d01c64d1e$010c51a0$6901a8c0@HPRORY> Message-ID: <017e01c64d4d$961ecfa0$6401a8c0@mjm2> You should be alright, but any water can get drained by wind. How much protection from waves do you have??? the one thing you do have to watch out for is high tide, what will happen you leave the centerboard down, the tide will drop and the board will get push up insured of rolled up, very bad news > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rory Orkin > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:31 PM > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Minimum mooring depth ?? > > I am considering rhodes 22 which draws 20 inches. board up. I have 40" of > water .. low tide winter..at my dock with a slip I could tie up at.. I am > concerned that unusual weather or tide could cause keel to pound > bottom..It is sand or mud bottom but does give me concern. > I am Not here all the time to tend it. > Anyone have any experience securing boat in similar conditions ?? > Thanks > Rory Orkin > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Tue Mar 21 20:13:10 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Tue Mar 21 20:15:06 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <017f01c64d4d$c9151360$6401a8c0@mjm2> I use the carpet the west marine sells, well to be exact use is to cut it into strips to help pack the boat :-), but is seems like nice stuff. -mjm > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lou Rosenberg > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:41 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > > I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. > > My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new wood > and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover > anyone might recommend?? > velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. > and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its > probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. > safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. > Lou > > > >I took a look at it. If it wasn't for this blasted day job I would > >have time to get it is sailing condition and put in service as a > >rental for my sailing school graduates. The "no head sail" adds > >about another 1400 to the bill since I will never have a hank on jib > >again. Thanks for thinking of me. As hard as I try to find a > >bargain, Stan still seems like the best bet in term of value. At > >first the price seems expensive but when you factor in things like > >time (something I have very little of) and parts to bring the boat > >up to sailing / enjoying condition, his pricing is right on the > >mark. Thanks for looking out for me. Bob Weber > > > >>From: "ed kroposki" > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd's eBay boat > >>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:02:12 -0500 > >> > >>Todd said another eBay boat at: > >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4 62 > 3868 > >>054&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT > >> > >> It appears in better condition that the recent Florida boat. > >> > >> Maybe Bob Weber is interested since he appears closest. > >> > >>Michael, > >> Is Nabble blocked out? I sent reply by Nabble earlier and it never > >>posted. > >> > >>Ed K > >> > >>__________________________________________________ > >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From napoli68 at charter.net Tue Mar 21 17:37:08 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Tue Mar 21 20:16:24 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Minimum mooring depth ?? References: <005d01c64d1e$010c51a0$6901a8c0@HPRORY> Message-ID: <001a01c64d51$24aac960$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Dear Rory, Not sure where you are, but when I was on the Chesapeake with a similar problem with my Rhodes we just tied an oyster work boat up and ran the engine full forward (you will need really good pilings) and slowly re positioned it along the dock. At low winter tide with a northerner my boat sat it its own little pond. Some newer citified boats don't like the silt and debris in the intake so find a big ol' one. Chris G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Orkin" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Minimum mooring depth ?? I am considering rhodes 22 which draws 20 inches. board up. I have 40" of water .. low tide winter..at my dock with a slip I could tie up at.. I am concerned that unusual weather or tide could cause keel to pound bottom..It is sand or mud bottom but does give me concern. I am Not here all the time to tend it. Anyone have any experience securing boat in similar conditions ?? Thanks Rory Orkin __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Tue Mar 21 20:14:31 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Tue Mar 21 20:16:47 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd's eBay boat In-Reply-To: <000001c64cf0$12781740$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: <018001c64d4d$f9427320$6401a8c0@mjm2> Not that I know of, it seemed to work on your last post, SO(insert blank stare here) > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of ed kroposki > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:02 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd's eBay boat > > Todd said another eBay boat at: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=462 38 > 68 > 054&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT > > It appears in better condition that the recent Florida boat. > > Maybe Bob Weber is interested since he appears closest. > > Michael, > Is Nabble blocked out? I sent reply by Nabble earlier and it never > posted. > > Ed K > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Tue Mar 21 17:39:24 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Tue Mar 21 20:39:28 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reply to MJM ... about Nabble In-Reply-To: <20060321221510.IEOW4894.eastrmmtao01.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> References: <000001c64cf0$12781740$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> <20060321221510.IEOW4894.eastrmmtao01.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> Message-ID: <3524806.post@talk.nabble.com> Michael, That was not the email I posted to Nabble. I was directly replying to Todd's original post using nabble like I always do. The original reply never posted to the list so I sent a second post which is the text of the one listed as a nabble post. The second message was not sent by Nabble, but a direct email by outlook to the list. It posted immediately. I am getting ready to format my hard drive and reload everything. I will try that trick later in the week. I think my computer is getting sick. Ed K -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Todd%27s-eBay-boat-t1317504.html#a3524806 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From watermusic38 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 21 18:19:24 2006 From: watermusic38 at yahoo.com (L. Sailor) Date: Tue Mar 21 21:19:41 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chesapeake Sailing In-Reply-To: <26e.804a7a1.31518942@aol.com> Message-ID: <20060322021924.39031.qmail@web36411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dave, Did you check out White Stone??? Mega-buck city... Actually, there's quite a bit to do in the lower No. Neck of VA...lots of professional retirees with as much $$ as time.....the demographics read quite differently from what causual observation would reveal.. BTW..Friends who have retired to New Bern just love it there.... Elle --- DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > > Well, the list is kind of quiet, so I thought I???d > offer a small tidbit. My > wife and I were off looking for retirement locales - > again. This time we > looped over to Kilmarnock and Urbanna Va before > heading to Edenton, Washington > NC and New Bern. A friend had told us about > Kilmarnock. Kilmarnock and > Urbanna are down near Norfolk, about 1/2 hour to 45 > min driving time north of > Williamsburg Va. > > We didn???t think there was much to Kilmarnock. > Maybe we missed the good > parts, but my sense is was that entire part of > Virginia is very rural, and > Kilmarnock is the ???large town??? that supports > that part of the world. Dealerships > selling farm machinery, that sort of thing. There > were a few housing > developments, but no substantial infrastructure, and > we didn???t see a marina although > many people had boats parked in their front yards. > > Urbanna was different. It appears to be a much > smaller town but it???s right > on the water near the mouth of the Rappahannock > river. There were at least 2 > substantial dock areas and a boat yard. Lots of > sailboats. It impressed us > as a quaint little town - not in the sense of New > Bern which is much larger > and ???colonial???, but more like something from the > 1950s. I doubt that there > is anything to do at night in Urbanna, other than > count the stars, but it's a > quaint little town and there may be as many boats in > it's marinas as there > are homes in the town. > > If you???re cruising the southern part of the > Chesapeake, this might be of > interest. > > Dave > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? > www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From sprocket80 at mail.com Tue Mar 21 21:31:59 2006 From: sprocket80 at mail.com (Todd Tavares) Date: Tue Mar 21 21:29:03 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk Message-ID: <20060322023201.4780184021@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Peter, I have a question.....but must first say that I have a terrible memory. IIRC, you bought Mark's boat Raven right? ...and you also bought a new trailer from Stan. Did you buy Mark's trailer too? Todd T. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From tfl4625 at blackfoot.net Tue Mar 21 20:16:51 2006 From: tfl4625 at blackfoot.net (Bob Fletcher) Date: Tue Mar 21 22:50:14 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 owners in NW? Message-ID: <006701c64d5f$11e6d450$4200a8c0@fletcher> I am planning to buy a trailerable sailboat in the next year and a Rhodes 22 is on the top of our list. Stan is tempting me with a "custom built" version for '07 but, of course, it would be nice to look at one first and get some owner's feedback. We live in NW Montana. Is there an owner in Montana, (unlikely), Idaho, Washington, Oregon or northern California who could help us? Thanks, Bob Fletcher From pthorn at nc.rr.com Wed Mar 22 07:36:07 2006 From: pthorn at nc.rr.com (Peter Thorn) Date: Wed Mar 22 07:36:54 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk References: <20060322023201.4780184021@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000f01c64dad$3166f5f0$7e0fa8c0@dell330> Todd, That's right: two boats, two trailers. Now I choose between sailing or pb work. That's why pb progress is slow. How's the renovation coming? PT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Tavares" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk Peter, I have a question.....but must first say that I have a terrible memory. IIRC, you bought Mark's boat Raven right? ...and you also bought a new trailer from Stan. Did you buy Mark's trailer too? Todd T. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Wed Mar 22 05:21:45 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Wed Mar 22 08:21:49 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana In-Reply-To: <006701c64d5f$11e6d450$4200a8c0@fletcher> References: <006701c64d5f$11e6d450$4200a8c0@fletcher> Message-ID: <3532049.post@talk.nabble.com> Bob: Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions to the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood will bring the sharks. First, you might take a look at this web site: http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took himself off the frapper. I do not know why. Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and fly to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 in full sun today. See: http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From rlowe at vt.edu Wed Mar 22 08:22:50 2006 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Rob Lowe) Date: Wed Mar 22 08:22:54 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk References: Message-ID: <00af01c64db3$b7cfee20$58ac52c6@ehss.vt.edu> Lou, Thanks for asking the question, I have the same problem. Somehow when we were pulling the boat last fall it got off to one side just a bit. When I started to pull the trailer and boat out of the water, the boat lurched to one side. I backed into the water and we reset the boat on the trailer and pulled it out, but noticed the bunk was cracked. Seemed the keel had come to rest on top of the bunk and broke it when I tried to pull the trailer out. Probably got the trailer too deep into the water and the keel floated up over the guides. The boat has been sitting on the broken bunk just fine all winter, but I need to replace the bunk once I float the boat. - rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Rosenberg" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. > > My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new wood > and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover > anyone might recommend?? > velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. > and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its > probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. > safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. > Lou > From bill at effros.com Wed Mar 22 09:00:19 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Wed Mar 22 09:00:24 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Minimum mooring depth ?? In-Reply-To: <005d01c64d1e$010c51a0$6901a8c0@HPRORY> References: <005d01c64d1e$010c51a0$6901a8c0@HPRORY> Message-ID: <44215873.7070409@effros.com> Rory, I have been moored in 36" of water for the past 10 years. 9 foot tidal variation twice every day. Long Island Sound. Some hurricanes. Many Nor'Easters. No problem. Remember to tell your guests not to dive in at low tide. Bill Effros Rory Orkin wrote: > I am considering rhodes 22 which draws 20 inches. board up. I have 40" of water .. low tide winter..at my dock with a slip I could tie up at.. I am concerned that unusual weather or tide could cause keel to pound bottom..It is sand or mud bottom but does give me concern. > I am Not here all the time to tend it. > Anyone have any experience securing boat in similar conditions ?? > Thanks > Rory Orkin > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From bill at effros.com Wed Mar 22 10:02:44 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Wed Mar 22 10:02:48 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk In-Reply-To: <00af01c64db3$b7cfee20$58ac52c6@ehss.vt.edu> References: <00af01c64db3$b7cfee20$58ac52c6@ehss.vt.edu> Message-ID: <44216714.5040406@effros.com> Rob, I didn't know that was possible. Elton taught me to position the trailer with roughly a foot of the leading edge of the bunks out of water. On my boat ramp that always forces the keel into the slot. I go in with the board down, or at least part way down, and the trailer forces the board back up as it aligns the keel in the slot. The leading edge of the bunks lifts the bow out of the water before it can hit the stop. It works for me. Bill Effros Rob Lowe wrote: > Lou, > Thanks for asking the question, I have the same problem. Somehow when we > were pulling the boat last fall it got off to one side just a bit. When I > started to pull the trailer and boat out of the water, the boat lurched to > one side. I backed into the water and we reset the boat on the trailer and > pulled it out, but noticed the bunk was cracked. Seemed the keel had come > to rest on top of the bunk and broke it when I tried to pull the trailer > out. Probably got the trailer too deep into the water and the keel floated > up over the guides. The boat has been sitting on the broken bunk just fine > all winter, but I need to replace the bunk once I float the boat. - rob > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lou Rosenberg" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:40 PM > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > > > >> I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. >> >> My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new wood >> and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover >> anyone might recommend?? >> velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. >> and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its >> probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. >> safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. >> Lou >> >> > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From Dallas.Dave at spartancontrols.com Wed Mar 22 08:53:55 2006 From: Dallas.Dave at spartancontrols.com (Dave Dallas) Date: Wed Mar 22 10:54:25 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana Message-ID: <3CE2668B20DC0C48A292C38BE250B69C011EFF56@smexchcal.spartan.ab.ca> Hi Bob; My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and am still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end of April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does anyone know what is happening with the Boom Room development? David Dallas -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana Bob: Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions to the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood will bring the sharks. First, you might take a look at this web site: http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took himself off the frapper. I do not know why. Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and fly to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 in full sun today. See: http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From rlowe at vt.edu Wed Mar 22 10:55:36 2006 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Rob Lowe) Date: Wed Mar 22 10:57:35 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk References: <00af01c64db3$b7cfee20$58ac52c6@ehss.vt.edu> <44216714.5040406@effros.com> Message-ID: <017f01c64dc9$130e3020$58ac52c6@ehss.vt.edu> Bill, I'm still not sure what happened, but I did back the trailer into the water more than I usually do in an attempt to get the boat forward enough on the trailer. I usually have to winch it pretty hard up against the bow stop and I figured it would be easier if the trailer was more submerged. I don't go in board down because I'd be hitting the bottom of the ramp with it, but I can see putting the board part way down to help as a guide. The bow was positioned between the bunks OK but I guess the stern was cockeyed a bit. The stern usually settles down nicely when I pull the trailer but that time it just came down on the bunk and cracked it. I just backed up, repositioned the boat, and she came out just fine. I'll be more careful from now on. Rob Lowe S/V Getaway ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > Rob, > > I didn't know that was possible. Elton taught me to position the > trailer with roughly a foot of the leading edge of the bunks out of > water. On my boat ramp that always forces the keel into the slot. I go > in with the board down, or at least part way down, and the trailer > forces the board back up as it aligns the keel in the slot. The leading > edge of the bunks lifts the bow out of the water before it can hit the stop. > > It works for me. > > Bill Effros > > Rob Lowe wrote: > > Lou, > > Thanks for asking the question, I have the same problem. Somehow when we > > were pulling the boat last fall it got off to one side just a bit. When I > > started to pull the trailer and boat out of the water, the boat lurched to > > one side. I backed into the water and we reset the boat on the trailer and > > pulled it out, but noticed the bunk was cracked. Seemed the keel had come > > to rest on top of the bunk and broke it when I tried to pull the trailer > > out. Probably got the trailer too deep into the water and the keel floated > > up over the guides. The boat has been sitting on the broken bunk just fine > > all winter, but I need to replace the bunk once I float the boat. - rob > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lou Rosenberg" > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:40 PM > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > > > > > > > >> I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. > >> > >> My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new wood > >> and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover > >> anyone might recommend?? > >> velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. > >> and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its > >> probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. > >> safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. > >> Lou > >> > >> > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Wed Mar 22 11:04:04 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Wed Mar 22 11:04:08 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana Message-ID: <674211.1143043444665.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ed, A suggestion/request. Why not append at least one of the messages you are replying to on your replies on the list? This will allow us to see the most recent history of the message content without winding back through previous messages. Some will have deleted the original message altogether. This would help all of us. Thx, Art -----Original Message----- >From: Tootle >Sent: Mar 22, 2006 8:21 AM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana > > >Bob: > Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions to >the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood will >bring the sharks. > First, you might take a look at this web site: >http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 >While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a >Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took himself >off the frapper. I do not know why. > Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and fly >to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and >imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com > I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 in >full sun today. See: >http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ > >Ed K >Greenville, SC, USA > > > > >-- >View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 >Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From thescubatank at cox.net Wed Mar 22 11:09:39 2006 From: thescubatank at cox.net (thescubatank@cox.net) Date: Wed Mar 22 11:10:11 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk Message-ID: <20060322160956.OIDH9108.eastrmmtao06.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> Rob, When I built up my trailer a year ago, I bought a used power boat dual axel trailer that had guide poles at the back of the trailer on each side. They were set at appox 8 feet apart and covered with 2 inch pvc pipe. I left the on and they provide the perfect guide for launching and loading Ad Astra. This way I do not have to worry if I go too deep on a ramp. Ad Astra lines up everytime and the stern does not move. This has alsomed it easier to launch by my self. She doesn't move on the trailer until I pull her back. Just a thought for you. Steve S/V Ad Astra > > From: "Rob Lowe" > Date: 2006/03/22 Wed AM 10:55:36 EST > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > > Bill, > I'm still not sure what happened, but I did back the trailer into the water > more than I usually do in an attempt to get the boat forward enough on the > trailer. I usually have to winch it pretty hard up against the bow stop and > I figured it would be easier if the trailer was more submerged. I don't go > in board down because I'd be hitting the bottom of the ramp with it, but I > can see putting the board part way down to help as a guide. The bow was > positioned between the bunks OK but I guess the stern was cockeyed a bit. > The stern usually settles down nicely when I pull the trailer but that time > it just came down on the bunk and cracked it. I just backed up, > repositioned the boat, and she came out just fine. I'll be more careful > from now on. > > > Rob Lowe > S/V Getaway > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Effros" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > > > > Rob, > > > > I didn't know that was possible. Elton taught me to position the > > trailer with roughly a foot of the leading edge of the bunks out of > > water. On my boat ramp that always forces the keel into the slot. I go > > in with the board down, or at least part way down, and the trailer > > forces the board back up as it aligns the keel in the slot. The leading > > edge of the bunks lifts the bow out of the water before it can hit the > stop. > > > > It works for me. > > > > Bill Effros > > > > Rob Lowe wrote: > > > Lou, > > > Thanks for asking the question, I have the same problem. Somehow when > we > > > were pulling the boat last fall it got off to one side just a bit. When > I > > > started to pull the trailer and boat out of the water, the boat lurched > to > > > one side. I backed into the water and we reset the boat on the trailer > and > > > pulled it out, but noticed the bunk was cracked. Seemed the keel had > come > > > to rest on top of the bunk and broke it when I tried to pull the trailer > > > out. Probably got the trailer too deep into the water and the keel > floated > > > up over the guides. The boat has been sitting on the broken bunk just > fine > > > all winter, but I need to replace the bunk once I float the boat. - rob > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Lou Rosenberg" > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:40 PM > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > > > > > > > > > > > >> I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. > > >> > > >> My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new wood > > >> and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover > > >> anyone might recommend?? > > >> velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. > > >> and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its > > >> probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. > > >> safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. > > >> Lou > > >> > > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From czerwonky at earthlink.net Wed Mar 22 11:11:07 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Wed Mar 22 11:11:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana Message-ID: <32675136.1143043867844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> David, The first unit will be fit to my boat this afternoon, for final tailoring. I'm anticipating delivering it to Stan in Edenton, probably in about two weeks. It looks good in Pacific Blue, also in Black. I can send a snapshot if you would like. R, Art -----Original Message----- >From: Dave Dallas >Sent: Mar 22, 2006 10:53 AM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana > >Hi Bob; > >My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. > >Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and am still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end of April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! > >I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does anyone know what is happening with the Boom Room development? > >David Dallas > >-----Original Message----- >From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle >Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana > > > >Bob: > Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions to >the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood will >bring the sharks. > First, you might take a look at this web site: >http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 >While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a >Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took himself >off the frapper. I do not know why. > Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and fly >to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and >imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com > I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 in >full sun today. See: >http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ > >Ed K >Greenville, SC, USA > > > > >-- >View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 >Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Wed Mar 22 11:19:15 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Wed Mar 22 11:19:20 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk Message-ID: <4258770.1143044355348.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Steve, I have done the same with mine - 60" side guides with PVC pipe to complement the keel guide. It is difficult to lose sight of the longer guides (West standard stock), and if need be can simply 'cap' with a longer piece of 2" pipe. A little additional insurance for deeper ramps. The bunk repair should be easy, Rob. You may be able to just reinforce the existing bunk on the bottom with a piece of 2x4... Art -----Original Message----- >From: thescubatank@cox.net >Sent: Mar 22, 2006 11:09 AM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > >Rob, > >When I built up my trailer a year ago, I bought a used power boat dual axel trailer that had guide poles at the back of the trailer on each side. They were set at appox 8 feet apart and covered with 2 inch pvc pipe. I left the on and they provide the perfect guide for launching and loading Ad Astra. This way I do not have to worry if I go too deep on a ramp. Ad Astra lines up everytime and the stern does not move. This has alsomed it easier to launch by my self. She doesn't move on the trailer until I pull her back. Just a thought for you. > >Steve >S/V Ad Astra >> >> From: "Rob Lowe" >> Date: 2006/03/22 Wed AM 10:55:36 EST >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk >> >> Bill, >> I'm still not sure what happened, but I did back the trailer into the water >> more than I usually do in an attempt to get the boat forward enough on the >> trailer. I usually have to winch it pretty hard up against the bow stop and >> I figured it would be easier if the trailer was more submerged. I don't go >> in board down because I'd be hitting the bottom of the ramp with it, but I >> can see putting the board part way down to help as a guide. The bow was >> positioned between the bunks OK but I guess the stern was cockeyed a bit. >> The stern usually settles down nicely when I pull the trailer but that time >> it just came down on the bunk and cracked it. I just backed up, >> repositioned the boat, and she came out just fine. I'll be more careful >> from now on. >> >> >> Rob Lowe >> S/V Getaway >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bill Effros" >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:02 AM >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk >> >> >> > Rob, >> > >> > I didn't know that was possible. Elton taught me to position the >> > trailer with roughly a foot of the leading edge of the bunks out of >> > water. On my boat ramp that always forces the keel into the slot. I go >> > in with the board down, or at least part way down, and the trailer >> > forces the board back up as it aligns the keel in the slot. The leading >> > edge of the bunks lifts the bow out of the water before it can hit the >> stop. >> > >> > It works for me. >> > >> > Bill Effros >> > >> > Rob Lowe wrote: >> > > Lou, >> > > Thanks for asking the question, I have the same problem. Somehow when >> we >> > > were pulling the boat last fall it got off to one side just a bit. When >> I >> > > started to pull the trailer and boat out of the water, the boat lurched >> to >> > > one side. I backed into the water and we reset the boat on the trailer >> and >> > > pulled it out, but noticed the bunk was cracked. Seemed the keel had >> come >> > > to rest on top of the bunk and broke it when I tried to pull the trailer >> > > out. Probably got the trailer too deep into the water and the keel >> floated >> > > up over the guides. The boat has been sitting on the broken bunk just >> fine >> > > all winter, but I need to replace the bunk once I float the boat. - rob >> > > >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Lou Rosenberg" >> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:40 PM >> > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. >> > >> >> > >> My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new wood >> > >> and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover >> > >> anyone might recommend?? >> > >> velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. >> > >> and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its >> > >> probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. >> > >> safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. >> > >> Lou >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > __________________________________________________ >> > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > >> > > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From bill at effros.com Wed Mar 22 12:26:41 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Wed Mar 22 12:26:47 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update In-Reply-To: <3CE2668B20DC0C48A292C38BE250B69C011EFF56@smexchcal.spartan.ab.ca> References: <3CE2668B20DC0C48A292C38BE250B69C011EFF56@smexchcal.spartan.ab.ca> Message-ID: <442188D1.5040801@effros.com> Dave, Art is building a prototype which he will bring to Stan as soon as the pressure is off Stan to produce new boats for the current season. Then we'll hear what Stan has to say, and go forward from there. Also they will try it on different boats to ensure that one design will fit all boats. In theory, the Boom Room will have the same top frame for all boats, with interchangeable side, front, and rear panels designed to fit different boats and different circumstances. Art is trying to see if he can make that work. In any case, Art expects to be able to pump out boom rooms for all who want them, and to have them all out the door by this summer. Art is trying to bring in the Boom Rooms for a retail price through Stan of $999. We'll see. Bill Effros Dave Dallas wrote: > Hi Bob; > > My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. > > Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and am still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end of April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! > > I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does anyone know what is happening with the Boom Room development? > > David Dallas > > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana > > > > Bob: > Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions to > the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood will > bring the sharks. > First, you might take a look at this web site: > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a > Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took himself > off the frapper. I do not know why. > Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and fly > to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and > imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com > I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 in > full sun today. See: > http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From bill at effros.com Wed Mar 22 12:46:25 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Wed Mar 22 12:46:30 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk In-Reply-To: <017f01c64dc9$130e3020$58ac52c6@ehss.vt.edu> References: <00af01c64db3$b7cfee20$58ac52c6@ehss.vt.edu> <44216714.5040406@effros.com> <017f01c64dc9$130e3020$58ac52c6@ehss.vt.edu> Message-ID: <44218D71.1080707@effros.com> Rob, That I have seen when I didn't put the board down. If the board is down far enough to engage the slot, the boat can't go on the trailer cockeyed. It only has to be that far down, no more, no less. I haven't had a cockeyed retrieval since I started making sure the board was always in the correct down position, which might not be all the way down. I use the motor to back off the trailer if I'm unhappy with the way the way the boat sits on the bunks. This is hard to do when the keel is wedged in the wrong place. -- Back the trailer down the ramp even further to float the boat off the bunks. But it should never happen when the board is down. The exposed bunks at the bow lift the boat right out of the water and stop it long before it hits the front stop -- which it should never do. When you learn the right amount of exposed bunk for your boat and trailer, you can nail the position every time--almost with your eyes closed. I find the easiest way to move the boat on the trailer to achieve an exact tongue weight is to put a bottle jack under the keel just after pulling the boat from the water. (Put a piece of wood above and below the bottle jack.) Lift the boat so the weight is off the bunks, but the wet bottom with ablative paint is still on the bunks. Then slowly drive the tow vehicle forward or backward to put the boat where you want it on the trailer. The boat will slide on the wet bunks very easily. There is no danger, because the boat will just fall back into the bunks if it happens to fall off the jack. (This has never happened to me.) The entire process takes less than 5 minutes, and the boat is exactly where you want it. Bill Effros Rob Lowe wrote: > Bill, > I'm still not sure what happened, but I did back the trailer into the water > more than I usually do in an attempt to get the boat forward enough on the > trailer. I usually have to winch it pretty hard up against the bow stop and > I figured it would be easier if the trailer was more submerged. I don't go > in board down because I'd be hitting the bottom of the ramp with it, but I > can see putting the board part way down to help as a guide. The bow was > positioned between the bunks OK but I guess the stern was cockeyed a bit. > The stern usually settles down nicely when I pull the trailer but that time > it just came down on the bunk and cracked it. I just backed up, > repositioned the boat, and she came out just fine. I'll be more careful > from now on. > > > Rob Lowe > S/V Getaway > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Effros" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > > > >> Rob, >> >> I didn't know that was possible. Elton taught me to position the >> trailer with roughly a foot of the leading edge of the bunks out of >> water. On my boat ramp that always forces the keel into the slot. I go >> in with the board down, or at least part way down, and the trailer >> forces the board back up as it aligns the keel in the slot. The leading >> edge of the bunks lifts the bow out of the water before it can hit the >> > stop. > >> It works for me. >> >> Bill Effros >> >> Rob Lowe wrote: >> >>> Lou, >>> Thanks for asking the question, I have the same problem. Somehow when >>> > we > >>> were pulling the boat last fall it got off to one side just a bit. When >>> > I > >>> started to pull the trailer and boat out of the water, the boat lurched >>> > to > >>> one side. I backed into the water and we reset the boat on the trailer >>> > and > >>> pulled it out, but noticed the bunk was cracked. Seemed the keel had >>> > come > >>> to rest on top of the bunk and broke it when I tried to pull the trailer >>> out. Probably got the trailer too deep into the water and the keel >>> > floated > >>> up over the guides. The boat has been sitting on the broken bunk just >>> > fine > >>> all winter, but I need to replace the bunk once I float the boat. - rob >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Lou Rosenberg" >>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:40 PM >>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. >>>> >>>> My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new wood >>>> and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover >>>> anyone might recommend?? >>>> velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. >>>> and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its >>>> probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. >>>> safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. >>>> Lou >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >>> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From bill at effros.com Wed Mar 22 12:49:15 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Wed Mar 22 12:49:19 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana In-Reply-To: <32675136.1143043867844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <32675136.1143043867844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <44218E1B.5050809@effros.com> Sorry, Art, Didn't see this because of unchanged subject line before replying re Boom Room. Bill Effros Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > David, > > The first unit will be fit to my boat this afternoon, for final tailoring. I'm anticipating delivering it to Stan in > Edenton, probably in about two weeks. It looks good in Pacific Blue, also in Black. I can send a snapshot if you would like. > > R, > Art > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Dave Dallas >> Sent: Mar 22, 2006 10:53 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >> >> Hi Bob; >> >> My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. >> >> Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and am still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end of April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! >> >> I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does anyone know what is happening with the Boom Room development? >> >> David Dallas >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle >> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM >> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >> >> >> >> Bob: >> Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions to >> the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood will >> bring the sharks. >> First, you might take a look at this web site: >> http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 >> While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a >> Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took himself >> off the frapper. I do not know why. >> Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and fly >> to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and >> imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com >> I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 in >> full sun today. See: >> http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ >> >> Ed K >> Greenville, SC, USA >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From Dallas.Dave at spartancontrols.com Wed Mar 22 10:51:23 2006 From: Dallas.Dave at spartancontrols.com (Dave Dallas) Date: Wed Mar 22 12:51:26 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update Message-ID: <3CE2668B20DC0C48A292C38BE250B69C011EFF57@smexchcal.spartan.ab.ca> Art, Bill: Thanks for the update, I appreciate the information. Regards, David Dallas -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Bill Effros Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:27 AM To: The Rhodes 22 mail list Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update Dave, Art is building a prototype which he will bring to Stan as soon as the pressure is off Stan to produce new boats for the current season. Then we'll hear what Stan has to say, and go forward from there. Also they will try it on different boats to ensure that one design will fit all boats. In theory, the Boom Room will have the same top frame for all boats, with interchangeable side, front, and rear panels designed to fit different boats and different circumstances. Art is trying to see if he can make that work. In any case, Art expects to be able to pump out boom rooms for all who want them, and to have them all out the door by this summer. Art is trying to bring in the Boom Rooms for a retail price through Stan of $999. We'll see. Bill Effros Dave Dallas wrote: > Hi Bob; > > My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. > > Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and am still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end of April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! > > I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does anyone know what is happening with the Boom Room development? > > David Dallas > > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana > > > > Bob: > Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions to > the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood will > bring the sharks. > First, you might take a look at this web site: > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a > Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took himself > off the frapper. I do not know why. > Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and fly > to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and > imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com > I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 in > full sun today. See: > http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From bill at effros.com Wed Mar 22 12:52:27 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Wed Mar 22 12:52:32 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk In-Reply-To: <4258770.1143044355348.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <4258770.1143044355348.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <44218EDB.5020402@effros.com> I always line up my trailer straight with my truck and aim for the V at the bow. The board always brings it in. People can gouge their bottoms with the side guides if they become submerged. Here that can happen as the tide comes in. Bill Effros Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > Steve, > I have done the same with mine - 60" side guides with PVC pipe to complement the keel guide. It is difficult to lose sight of the longer guides (West standard stock), and if need be can simply 'cap' with a longer piece of 2" pipe. A little additional insurance for deeper ramps. > The bunk repair should be easy, Rob. You may be able to just reinforce the existing bunk on the bottom with a piece of 2x4... > Art > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: thescubatank@cox.net >> Sent: Mar 22, 2006 11:09 AM >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >> Subject: Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk >> >> Rob, >> >> When I built up my trailer a year ago, I bought a used power boat dual axel trailer that had guide poles at the back of the trailer on each side. They were set at appox 8 feet apart and covered with 2 inch pvc pipe. I left the on and they provide the perfect guide for launching and loading Ad Astra. This way I do not have to worry if I go too deep on a ramp. Ad Astra lines up everytime and the stern does not move. This has alsomed it easier to launch by my self. She doesn't move on the trailer until I pull her back. Just a thought for you. >> >> Steve >> S/V Ad Astra >> >>> From: "Rob Lowe" >>> Date: 2006/03/22 Wed AM 10:55:36 EST >>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk >>> >>> Bill, >>> I'm still not sure what happened, but I did back the trailer into the water >>> more than I usually do in an attempt to get the boat forward enough on the >>> trailer. I usually have to winch it pretty hard up against the bow stop and >>> I figured it would be easier if the trailer was more submerged. I don't go >>> in board down because I'd be hitting the bottom of the ramp with it, but I >>> can see putting the board part way down to help as a guide. The bow was >>> positioned between the bunks OK but I guess the stern was cockeyed a bit. >>> The stern usually settles down nicely when I pull the trailer but that time >>> it just came down on the bunk and cracked it. I just backed up, >>> repositioned the boat, and she came out just fine. I'll be more careful >>> from now on. >>> >>> >>> Rob Lowe >>> S/V Getaway >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bill Effros" >>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:02 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk >>> >>> >>> >>>> Rob, >>>> >>>> I didn't know that was possible. Elton taught me to position the >>>> trailer with roughly a foot of the leading edge of the bunks out of >>>> water. On my boat ramp that always forces the keel into the slot. I go >>>> in with the board down, or at least part way down, and the trailer >>>> forces the board back up as it aligns the keel in the slot. The leading >>>> edge of the bunks lifts the bow out of the water before it can hit the >>>> >>> stop. >>> >>>> It works for me. >>>> >>>> Bill Effros >>>> >>>> Rob Lowe wrote: >>>> >>>>> Lou, >>>>> Thanks for asking the question, I have the same problem. Somehow when >>>>> >>> we >>> >>>>> were pulling the boat last fall it got off to one side just a bit. When >>>>> >>> I >>> >>>>> started to pull the trailer and boat out of the water, the boat lurched >>>>> >>> to >>> >>>>> one side. I backed into the water and we reset the boat on the trailer >>>>> >>> and >>> >>>>> pulled it out, but noticed the bunk was cracked. Seemed the keel had >>>>> >>> come >>> >>>>> to rest on top of the bunk and broke it when I tried to pull the trailer >>>>> out. Probably got the trailer too deep into the water and the keel >>>>> >>> floated >>> >>>>> up over the guides. The boat has been sitting on the broken bunk just >>>>> >>> fine >>> >>>>> all winter, but I need to replace the bunk once I float the boat. - rob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Lou Rosenberg" >>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:40 PM >>>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. >>>>>> >>>>>> My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new wood >>>>>> and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover >>>>>> anyone might recommend?? >>>>>> velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. >>>>>> and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its >>>>>> probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. >>>>>> safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. >>>>>> Lou >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From Dallas.Dave at spartancontrols.com Wed Mar 22 10:53:07 2006 From: Dallas.Dave at spartancontrols.com (Dave Dallas) Date: Wed Mar 22 12:53:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update Message-ID: <3CE2668B20DC0C48A292C38BE250B69C011EFF58@smexchcal.spartan.ab.ca> Art: Thanks, all the work you and others have been doing is greatly appreciated. I would love to see a picture when you have the time. Regards, David Dallas -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Arthur H. Czerwonky Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:11 AM To: The Rhodes 22 mail list Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana David, The first unit will be fit to my boat this afternoon, for final tailoring. I'm anticipating delivering it to Stan in Edenton, probably in about two weeks. It looks good in Pacific Blue, also in Black. I can send a snapshot if you would like. R, Art -----Original Message----- >From: Dave Dallas >Sent: Mar 22, 2006 10:53 AM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana > >Hi Bob; > >My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. > >Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and am still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end of April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! > >I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does anyone know what is happening with the Boom Room development? > >David Dallas > >-----Original Message----- >From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle >Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana > > > >Bob: > Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions to >the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood will >bring the sharks. > First, you might take a look at this web site: >http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 >While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a >Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took himself >off the frapper. I do not know why. > Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and fly >to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and >imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com > I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 in >full sun today. See: >http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ > >Ed K >Greenville, SC, USA > > > > >-- >View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 >Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From DCLewis1 at aol.com Wed Mar 22 14:27:42 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Wed Mar 22 14:27:52 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dave's retirement Saga Message-ID: <2b7.712ac5e.3152ff2e@aol.com> Ed, Great post. Formosan termites, wow!! Don?t tell me, they eat fiberglass boats, right? We?ve thought about overseas, and I?d love to do that. But we?ve got cats that are like family, it would never work. I imagine they eat cats in Formosa; but Mexico, the Virgin Isles, Bahamas, PR all good places except that they? ll quarantine incoming animals for 30 day (I think), so we?ll have to visit those locales. Besides, class A medical facilities are important. I don?t doubt that Stan is itching to get back to work, but mostly he?s itching. He?s got to be going through hell. First a bad bout of flu, now shingles - and they can last a while. Not fun. A lesser man could be seriously depressed at this point, I give him a lot of credit. This retirement relocation issue could turn into a long term hobby, it?s taking too much time. Too many variables. Bad as it is, though, it sure beats commuting in Washington DC traffic. Dave From DCLewis1 at aol.com Wed Mar 22 14:44:03 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Wed Mar 22 14:44:18 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chesapeake Sailing Message-ID: <2b0.31b098.31530303@aol.com> Elle, Nope, haven't visited White Stone, but we may have seen enough of that part of Va, at least for a while. I think you're right about the demographics. There has to be a fair amount of $ in the area to support those land and house prices, better value in NC, SC, even Fla. I attributed that to retirees flowing in from Norfolk, or wherever. I imagine the retirees are buying up all the waterfront properties. When we got out of the towns we saw what appeared to me to be working farms, etc. So you've got bifurcated demographics, high end retirees and mid to lower (i.e. normal for that area) rural farming and agribusiness people. Re New Bern, it's a lovely town. We've been back 3 times now. Washington NC is nice to, if you haven't seen it. It's smaller than New Bern and it doesn't have the colonial down town that New Bern does. Washington's downtown area has a river walk and the architecture is probably turn of the (last) century. There appear's to be a lot of sailing in each town. They're both nice places. Dave From ekroposki at charter.net Wed Mar 22 16:10:33 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Wed Mar 22 19:10:39 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Arthur H. Czerwonky In-Reply-To: <44218E1B.5050809@effros.com> References: <006701c64d5f$11e6d450$4200a8c0@fletcher> <3532049.post@talk.nabble.com> <3CE2668B20DC0C48A292C38BE250B69C011EFF56@smexchcal.spartan.ab.ca> <674211.1143043444665.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <32675136.1143043867844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <44218E1B.5050809@effros.com> Message-ID: <3543960.post@talk.nabble.com> Art: I do not read the list by email and usually do not reply by email. I read the post to the list off the internet. I am not the only member of the Rhodes 22 list that does it this way. I learned from another member. Doing it this way does not fill your email box. In my case, I have several email boxes and my wife has many... If your remember, One Eyed Bob complained about filling the email box. If he learned to read off the internet and use Nabble, then he would NOT irritate his wife by filling the email mail box with list emails. Michael set up Nabble to solve this problem. I can reply and even you can see what I am replying to when I use Nabble. That is you can if you look at the bottom of the post where it says: View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 >Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. The reference is a HOT KEY. All you have to do is put your cursor on the reference and click (or double click if your computer is set up that way). The reference includes all past post to that thread. Imagine that. If you still cannot do this, sign up for a course in basic computer operations. Such courses are offered all over the place, such a junior colleges, high schools, YMCA's, etc. Who knows you might become a computer Wizard. If you learn to use Nabble, you can solve your own Dilemma. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3543960 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From tfl4625 at blackfoot.net Wed Mar 22 17:38:38 2006 From: tfl4625 at blackfoot.net (Bob Fletcher) Date: Wed Mar 22 19:38:34 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana References: <006701c64d5f$11e6d450$4200a8c0@fletcher> <3532049.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <004601c64e12$20f012a0$4200a8c0@fletcher> Tootle: Thanks for the welcome. I have already visited with Stan about a possible visit to Edenton. And thanks for the Frapper link. I see there is a Rhodes owner in Spokane, a very short drive from here. If I don't get a resonse from the first posting I will go in search... I heard already from the Calgary connection you mentioned. He offered a sail "when the water softens." Sorry to dispell the Montana weather myth, but we live in the "banana belt" of NW Montana and are also looking at 60 degree weather here, although I still see snow on the mountains and it could change tomorrow. I can see already that I'll enjoy the list. Bob Fletcher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tootle" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:21 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana > > Bob: > Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions > to > the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood > will > bring the sharks. > First, you might take a look at this web site: > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a > Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took > himself > off the frapper. I do not know why. > Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and > fly > to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and > imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com > I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 in > full sun today. See: > http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From dwbrad at gmail.com Wed Mar 22 17:39:09 2006 From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley) Date: Wed Mar 22 20:39:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update In-Reply-To: <442188D1.5040801@effros.com> References: <3CE2668B20DC0C48A292C38BE250B69C011EFF56@smexchcal.spartan.ab.ca> <442188D1.5040801@effros.com> Message-ID: <5c154df70603221739v7494e992med0333b41562683a@mail.gmail.com> Building on Bill's comments... thanks to Art for coming forward with a way to get this done. Stan has been a little backlogged on mail so we're waiting to define the next steps. I'm glad Stan is feeling better and building boats, and I know we'll hear when he's ready. Just wanted to 'splain why we went a little dark on this subject. Dave B. On 3/22/06, Bill Effros wrote: > > Dave, > > Art is building a prototype which he will bring to Stan as soon as the > pressure is off Stan to produce new boats for the current season. > > Then we'll hear what Stan has to say, and go forward from there. > > Also they will try it on different boats to ensure that one design will > fit all boats. > > In theory, the Boom Room will have the same top frame for all boats, > with interchangeable side, front, and rear panels designed to fit > different boats and different circumstances. > > Art is trying to see if he can make that work. > > In any case, Art expects to be able to pump out boom rooms for all who > want them, and to have them all out the door by this summer. Art is > trying to bring in the Boom Rooms for a retail price through Stan of $999. > > We'll see. > > Bill Effros > > Dave Dallas wrote: > > Hi Bob; > > > > My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not > take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. > > > > Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo > boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and am > still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end of > April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until > then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of > Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! > > > > I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does anyone > know what is happening with the Boom Room development? > > > > David Dallas > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle > > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM > > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana > > > > > > > > Bob: > > Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your > questions to > > the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood > will > > bring the sharks. > > First, you might take a look at this web site: > > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > > While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is > a > > Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took > himself > > off the frapper. I do not know why. > > Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and > fly > > to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and > > imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com > > I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 > in > > full sun today. See: > > http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ > > > > Ed K > > Greenville, SC, USA > > > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 > > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- David Bradley 203.253.9973 dwbrad@gmail.com From zoomerzx at gmail.com Wed Mar 22 21:43:36 2006 From: zoomerzx at gmail.com (Todd Zumach) Date: Wed Mar 22 22:43:44 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk In-Reply-To: <44218EDB.5020402@effros.com> References: <4258770.1143044355348.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <44218EDB.5020402@effros.com> Message-ID: <39c52f6f0603221943i50e75a3eu80221b5ddb74809@mail.gmail.com> Gents, I will add my two bits to this conversation. Prior to putting my boat on the water for the first time last year, I read through the owners manual (twice, I think). Unfortunately, I didn't review the trailer loading section again before the haul out at the end of the season. I forgot about the keel being partially dropped and I also set the trailer too deep. It took us (myself and three helpers) about 30 minutes to get the boat on the trailer! Several times we thought we had it and when my wife pulled the boat out of the water we discovered the keel had settled on the starboard bunk. When I got home, I noticed that the starboard bunk was damaged. That day, October 11, 2005 will be permanently burned into my memory because of the painful lessons learned. Needless to say, I appreciate this message string because it allows me to remember my stupid mistakes. Another lesson for the newbie. Todd Z. On 3/22/06, Bill Effros wrote: > > I always line up my trailer straight with my truck and aim for the V at > the bow. The board always brings it in. People can gouge their bottoms > with the side guides if they become submerged. Here that can happen as > the tide comes in. > > Bill Effros > > Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > > Steve, > > I have done the same with mine - 60" side guides with PVC pipe to > complement the keel guide. It is difficult to lose sight of the longer > guides (West standard stock), and if need be can simply 'cap' with a longer > piece of 2" pipe. A little additional insurance for deeper ramps. > > The bunk repair should be easy, Rob. You may be able to just reinforce > the existing bunk on the bottom with a piece of 2x4... > > Art > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: thescubatank@cox.net > >> Sent: Mar 22, 2006 11:09 AM > >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >> Subject: Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > >> > >> Rob, > >> > >> When I built up my trailer a year ago, I bought a used power boat dual > axel trailer that had guide poles at the back of the trailer on each > side. They were set at appox 8 feet apart and covered with 2 inch pvc > pipe. I left the on and they provide the perfect guide for launching and > loading Ad Astra. This way I do not have to worry if I go too deep on a > ramp. Ad Astra lines up everytime and the stern does not move. This has > alsomed it easier to launch by my self. She doesn't move on the trailer > until I pull her back. Just a thought for you. > >> > >> Steve > >> S/V Ad Astra > >> > >>> From: "Rob Lowe" > >>> Date: 2006/03/22 Wed AM 10:55:36 EST > >>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > >>> > >>> Bill, > >>> I'm still not sure what happened, but I did back the trailer into the > water > >>> more than I usually do in an attempt to get the boat forward enough on > the > >>> trailer. I usually have to winch it pretty hard up against the bow > stop and > >>> I figured it would be easier if the trailer was more submerged. I > don't go > >>> in board down because I'd be hitting the bottom of the ramp with it, > but I > >>> can see putting the board part way down to help as a guide. The bow > was > >>> positioned between the bunks OK but I guess the stern was cockeyed a > bit. > >>> The stern usually settles down nicely when I pull the trailer but that > time > >>> it just came down on the bunk and cracked it. I just backed up, > >>> repositioned the boat, and she came out just fine. I'll be more > careful > >>> from now on. > >>> > >>> > >>> Rob Lowe > >>> S/V Getaway > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Bill Effros" > >>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:02 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Rob, > >>>> > >>>> I didn't know that was possible. Elton taught me to position the > >>>> trailer with roughly a foot of the leading edge of the bunks out of > >>>> water. On my boat ramp that always forces the keel into the slot. I > go > >>>> in with the board down, or at least part way down, and the trailer > >>>> forces the board back up as it aligns the keel in the slot. The > leading > >>>> edge of the bunks lifts the bow out of the water before it can hit > the > >>>> > >>> stop. > >>> > >>>> It works for me. > >>>> > >>>> Bill Effros > >>>> > >>>> Rob Lowe wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Lou, > >>>>> Thanks for asking the question, I have the same problem. Somehow > when > >>>>> > >>> we > >>> > >>>>> were pulling the boat last fall it got off to one side just a > bit. When > >>>>> > >>> I > >>> > >>>>> started to pull the trailer and boat out of the water, the boat > lurched > >>>>> > >>> to > >>> > >>>>> one side. I backed into the water and we reset the boat on the > trailer > >>>>> > >>> and > >>> > >>>>> pulled it out, but noticed the bunk was cracked. Seemed the keel > had > >>>>> > >>> come > >>> > >>>>> to rest on top of the bunk and broke it when I tried to pull the > trailer > >>>>> out. Probably got the trailer too deep into the water and the keel > >>>>> > >>> floated > >>> > >>>>> up over the guides. The boat has been sitting on the broken bunk > just > >>>>> > >>> fine > >>> > >>>>> all winter, but I need to replace the bunk once I float the boat. - > rob > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Lou Rosenberg" > >>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:40 PM > >>>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new > wood > >>>>>> and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover > >>>>>> anyone might recommend?? > >>>>>> velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. > >>>>>> and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its > >>>>>> probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. > >>>>>> safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. > >>>>>> Lou > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> __________________________________________________ > >>>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> __________________________________________________ > >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >>>> > >>> __________________________________________________ > >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >>> > >>> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From czerwonky at earthlink.net Thu Mar 23 08:34:06 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Thu Mar 23 08:34:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Arthur H. Czerwonky Message-ID: <22998362.1143120846567.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ed, You missed my point. Surely you must know that the irritation with 'filling the mailbox' is a result of quantity of messages, not the size of any individual message. Most of us have 100Mb to 1Gb of mailbox space, rarely a space problem. The daily quantity of incoming messages can be huge - and I'll read every one and cover my Rhodes messages at least daily with greatest pleasure. My wife, unhappy about mailbox 'clutter', uses her own mailbox, a possible solution for OEB. Most ISPs will allow 3+ mailboxes per account. >If you still cannot do this, sign up for a course in basic computer >operations. Such courses are offered all over the place, such a junior >colleges, high schools, YMCA's, etc. Who knows you might become a computer >Wizard. > >If you learn to use Nabble, you can solve your own Dilemma. Ed - like, give us a break, Prof. Basic Computers is offered at Georgia primary schools. Your strong come-on with new or veteran list members can look like poor writing "manners". Do we really want to drive away new Rhodes shipmates? Art -----Original Message----- >From: Tootle >Sent: Mar 22, 2006 7:10 PM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Arthur H. Czerwonky > > >Art: > I do not read the list by email and usually do not reply by email. I >read the post to the list off the internet. I am not the only member of the >Rhodes 22 list that does it this way. I learned from another member. Doing >it this way does not fill your email box. In my case, I have several email >boxes and my wife has many... If your remember, One Eyed Bob complained >about filling the email box. If he learned to read off the internet and use >Nabble, then he would NOT irritate his wife by filling the email mail box >with list emails. > Michael set up Nabble to solve this problem. I can reply and even >you can see what I am replying to when I use Nabble. That is you can if you >look at the bottom of the post where it says: >View this message in context: >http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 >>Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >The reference is a HOT KEY. All you have to do is put your cursor on the >reference and click (or double click if your computer is set up that way). >The reference includes all past post to that thread. Imagine that. > >If you still cannot do this, sign up for a course in basic computer >operations. Such courses are offered all over the place, such a junior >colleges, high schools, YMCA's, etc. Who knows you might become a computer >Wizard. > >If you learn to use Nabble, you can solve your own Dilemma. > >Ed K >Greenville, SC, USA > > > >-- >View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3543960 >Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Thu Mar 23 08:39:08 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Thu Mar 23 08:39:10 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update Message-ID: <22793027.1143121148850.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Dave, Thank you for your tenacity, and Bill's, my friend. When do you travel to NC, of do you know yet? BTW I am planning to have prototype based on your preference ~4' sections. Cheers, Art -----Original Message----- >From: David Bradley >Sent: Mar 22, 2006 8:39 PM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update > >Building on Bill's comments... thanks to Art for coming forward with a way >to get this done. Stan has been a little backlogged on mail so we're >waiting to define the next steps. I'm glad Stan is feeling better and >building boats, and I know we'll hear when he's ready. Just wanted to >'splain why we went a little dark on this subject. > >Dave B. > > >On 3/22/06, Bill Effros wrote: >> >> Dave, >> >> Art is building a prototype which he will bring to Stan as soon as the >> pressure is off Stan to produce new boats for the current season. >> >> Then we'll hear what Stan has to say, and go forward from there. >> >> Also they will try it on different boats to ensure that one design will >> fit all boats. >> >> In theory, the Boom Room will have the same top frame for all boats, >> with interchangeable side, front, and rear panels designed to fit >> different boats and different circumstances. >> >> Art is trying to see if he can make that work. >> >> In any case, Art expects to be able to pump out boom rooms for all who >> want them, and to have them all out the door by this summer. Art is >> trying to bring in the Boom Rooms for a retail price through Stan of $999. >> >> We'll see. >> >> Bill Effros >> >> Dave Dallas wrote: >> > Hi Bob; >> > >> > My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not >> take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. >> > >> > Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo >> boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and am >> still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end of >> April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until >> then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of >> Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! >> > >> > I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does anyone >> know what is happening with the Boom Room development? >> > >> > David Dallas >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org >> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM >> > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >> > >> > >> > >> > Bob: >> > Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your >> questions to >> > the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood >> will >> > bring the sharks. >> > First, you might take a look at this web site: >> > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 >> > While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is >> a >> > Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took >> himself >> > off the frapper. I do not know why. >> > Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and >> fly >> > to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and >> > imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com >> > I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 >> in >> > full sun today. See: >> > http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ >> > >> > Ed K >> > Greenville, SC, USA >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 >> > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > > >-- >David Bradley >203.253.9973 >dwbrad@gmail.com >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From dwbrad at gmail.com Thu Mar 23 08:47:18 2006 From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley) Date: Thu Mar 23 11:47:22 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update In-Reply-To: <22793027.1143121148850.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <22793027.1143121148850.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5c154df70603230847y673819a8r4e29395439b333ce@mail.gmail.com> Art, I'm not sure when I'll make it to NC. I think my boat is about done but I've immersed myself in the new job in Seattle so need to figure out when I can escape for a few days. I'm still hoping to be one of the first boom room customers. Dave On 3/23/06, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > > Dave, > Thank you for your tenacity, and Bill's, my friend. When do you travel to > NC, of do you know yet? BTW I am planning to have prototype based on your > preference ~4' sections. > Cheers, > Art > > -----Original Message----- > >From: David Bradley > >Sent: Mar 22, 2006 8:39 PM > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update > > > >Building on Bill's comments... thanks to Art for coming forward with a > way > >to get this done. Stan has been a little backlogged on mail so we're > >waiting to define the next steps. I'm glad Stan is feeling better and > >building boats, and I know we'll hear when he's ready. Just wanted to > >'splain why we went a little dark on this subject. > > > >Dave B. > > > > > >On 3/22/06, Bill Effros wrote: > >> > >> Dave, > >> > >> Art is building a prototype which he will bring to Stan as soon as the > >> pressure is off Stan to produce new boats for the current season. > >> > >> Then we'll hear what Stan has to say, and go forward from there. > >> > >> Also they will try it on different boats to ensure that one design will > >> fit all boats. > >> > >> In theory, the Boom Room will have the same top frame for all boats, > >> with interchangeable side, front, and rear panels designed to fit > >> different boats and different circumstances. > >> > >> Art is trying to see if he can make that work. > >> > >> In any case, Art expects to be able to pump out boom rooms for all who > >> want them, and to have them all out the door by this summer. Art is > >> trying to bring in the Boom Rooms for a retail price through Stan of > $999. > >> > >> We'll see. > >> > >> Bill Effros > >> > >> Dave Dallas wrote: > >> > Hi Bob; > >> > > >> > My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not > >> take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. > >> > > >> > Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo > >> boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and > am > >> still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end > of > >> April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until > >> then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of > >> Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! > >> > > >> > I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does > anyone > >> know what is happening with the Boom Room development? > >> > > >> > David Dallas > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org > >> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle > >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM > >> > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > >> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Bob: > >> > Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your > >> questions to > >> > the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new > blood > >> will > >> > bring the sharks. > >> > First, you might take a look at this web site: > >> > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > >> > While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary > is > >> a > >> > Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took > >> himself > >> > off the frapper. I do not know why. > >> > Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days > and > >> fly > >> > to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and > >> > imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com > >> > I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make > 60 > >> in > >> > full sun today. See: > >> > http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ > >> > > >> > Ed K > >> > Greenville, SC, USA > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > View this message in context: > >> http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 > >> > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >> > > >> > __________________________________________________ > >> > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > __________________________________________________ > >> > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > > >> > > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >David Bradley > >203.253.9973 > >dwbrad@gmail.com > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- David Bradley 203.253.9973 dwbrad@gmail.com From czerwonky at earthlink.net Thu Mar 23 18:56:43 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Thu Mar 23 18:56:49 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update Message-ID: <12195051.1143158203914.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hey, If you arrive after I do, can I just sail your boat until... Art -----Original Message----- >From: David Bradley >Sent: Mar 23, 2006 11:47 AM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update > >Art, I'm not sure when I'll make it to NC. I think my boat is about done >but I've immersed myself in the new job in Seattle so need to figure out >when I can escape for a few days. I'm still hoping to be one of the first >boom room customers. > >Dave > > >On 3/23/06, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: >> >> Dave, >> Thank you for your tenacity, and Bill's, my friend. When do you travel to >> NC, of do you know yet? BTW I am planning to have prototype based on your >> preference ~4' sections. >> Cheers, >> Art >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: David Bradley >> >Sent: Mar 22, 2006 8:39 PM >> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update >> > >> >Building on Bill's comments... thanks to Art for coming forward with a >> way >> >to get this done. Stan has been a little backlogged on mail so we're >> >waiting to define the next steps. I'm glad Stan is feeling better and >> >building boats, and I know we'll hear when he's ready. Just wanted to >> >'splain why we went a little dark on this subject. >> > >> >Dave B. >> > >> > >> >On 3/22/06, Bill Effros wrote: >> >> >> >> Dave, >> >> >> >> Art is building a prototype which he will bring to Stan as soon as the >> >> pressure is off Stan to produce new boats for the current season. >> >> >> >> Then we'll hear what Stan has to say, and go forward from there. >> >> >> >> Also they will try it on different boats to ensure that one design will >> >> fit all boats. >> >> >> >> In theory, the Boom Room will have the same top frame for all boats, >> >> with interchangeable side, front, and rear panels designed to fit >> >> different boats and different circumstances. >> >> >> >> Art is trying to see if he can make that work. >> >> >> >> In any case, Art expects to be able to pump out boom rooms for all who >> >> want them, and to have them all out the door by this summer. Art is >> >> trying to bring in the Boom Rooms for a retail price through Stan of >> $999. >> >> >> >> We'll see. >> >> >> >> Bill Effros >> >> >> >> Dave Dallas wrote: >> >> > Hi Bob; >> >> > >> >> > My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not >> >> take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. >> >> > >> >> > Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo >> >> boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and >> am >> >> still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end >> of >> >> April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until >> >> then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of >> >> Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! >> >> > >> >> > I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does >> anyone >> >> know what is happening with the Boom Room development? >> >> > >> >> > David Dallas >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org >> >> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM >> >> > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >> >> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Bob: >> >> > Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your >> >> questions to >> >> > the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new >> blood >> >> will >> >> > bring the sharks. >> >> > First, you might take a look at this web site: >> >> > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 >> >> > While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary >> is >> >> a >> >> > Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took >> >> himself >> >> > off the frapper. I do not know why. >> >> > Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days >> and >> >> fly >> >> > to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and >> >> > imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com >> >> > I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make >> 60 >> >> in >> >> > full sun today. See: >> >> > http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ >> >> > >> >> > Ed K >> >> > Greenville, SC, USA >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > View this message in context: >> >> http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 >> >> > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >> >> > >> >> > __________________________________________________ >> >> > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> > __________________________________________________ >> >> > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> > >> >> > >> >> __________________________________________________ >> >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >David Bradley >> >203.253.9973 >> >dwbrad@gmail.com >> >__________________________________________________ >> >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > > >-- >David Bradley >203.253.9973 >dwbrad@gmail.com >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Thu Mar 23 19:05:34 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Thu Mar 23 19:05:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boomroom Message-ID: <20690130.1143158734657.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Bill, I should have changed the subject line, my error. The fit looks mighty good - I sure like the hull shape with the curtains. I'll keep you posted on my trip. Hope all is well with you. Art -----Original Message----- >From: Bill Effros >Sent: Mar 22, 2006 12:49 PM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana > >Sorry, Art, > >Didn't see this because of unchanged subject line before replying re >Boom Room. > >Bill Effros > >Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: >> David, >> >> The first unit will be fit to my boat this afternoon, for final tailoring. I'm anticipating delivering it to Stan in >> Edenton, probably in about two weeks. It looks good in Pacific Blue, also in Black. I can send a snapshot if you would like. >> >> R, >> Art >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Dave Dallas >>> Sent: Mar 22, 2006 10:53 AM >>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >>> >>> Hi Bob; >>> >>> My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. >>> >>> Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and am still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end of April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! >>> >>> I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does anyone know what is happening with the Boom Room development? >>> >>> David Dallas >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org >>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM >>> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >>> >>> >>> >>> Bob: >>> Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions to >>> the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood will >>> bring the sharks. >>> First, you might take a look at this web site: >>> http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 >>> While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a >>> Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took himself >>> off the frapper. I do not know why. >>> Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and fly >>> to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and >>> imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com >>> I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 in >>> full sun today. See: >>> http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ >>> >>> Ed K >>> Greenville, SC, USA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 >>> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From DCLewis1 at aol.com Thu Mar 23 19:49:32 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 23 19:49:39 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Message-ID: <27c.7f0f4d1.31549c1c@aol.com> Folks, We?re getting ready to actually get our boat, it should happen in about 2 weeks. It?s going to be tied up at a slip at Harrington Harbour Marina in Deale Md with a couple of hundred other boats. Any advice as to how many of what kind of fenders will work in a typical berthing arrangement? Dimensions? Round/Flat? I checked the achieves and gather Elton had some type of neat fender that slung over the gunnel, but that was a while ago. I?ve looked through the West Marine stuff and there are Taylor low freeboard fenders and fence saver fenders that might similar to posters were referring to (i.e. appear to sling over the gunnel), but I don?t know. There are flat fenders and conforming flat fenders. And then there are the good old round cylinders. And all of the above in a variety of lengths and thicknesses. What works? Dave From hnw555 at gmail.com Thu Mar 23 20:11:03 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Thu Mar 23 20:11:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? In-Reply-To: <27c.7f0f4d1.31549c1c@aol.com> References: <27c.7f0f4d1.31549c1c@aol.com> Message-ID: Dave, It really depends on the slip you are in and what you might be rubbing up against. Check out other boats in yous size range and in a similare slip and see what they use. For example, if you are going into a floating dock with full length fingers, then long skinny round type work well. If your boat could be bumping up against a piling, then you may need the long flat one and tie it horizontally. There is no set "what works best". Everything is situational. Hank On 3/23/06, DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > > > > Folks, > > We're getting ready to actually get our boat, it should happen in about 2 > weeks. It's going to be tied up at a slip at Harrington Harbour Marina in > Deale Md with a couple of hundred other boats. > > Any advice as to how many of what kind of fenders will work in a typical > berthing arrangement? Dimensions? Round/Flat? > > I checked the achieves and gather Elton had some type of neat fender that > slung over the gunnel, but that was a while ago. I've looked through > the West > Marine stuff and there are Taylor low freeboard fenders and fence saver > fenders that might similar to posters were referring to (i.e. appear to > sling over > the gunnel), but I don't know. There are flat fenders and > conforming flat > fenders. And then there are the good old round cylinders. And all of the > above in a variety of lengths and thicknesses. > > What works? > > Dave > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From wp.barry at att.net Thu Mar 23 20:42:46 2006 From: wp.barry at att.net (William P. Barry, III) Date: Thu Mar 23 20:42:09 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? References: <27c.7f0f4d1.31549c1c@aol.com> Message-ID: <000a01c64ee4$459f36d0$0200a8c0@xp958> Flat fenders are pretty cool if you have a slip setup that they will work with. They're a biy more expensive, but when it comes to storage you can't beat them. The bigger and rounder teh fender, the more bulky and awkward it is to store. 3 fenders for a side. forward middle and aft. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Folks, We?re getting ready to actually get our boat, it should happen in about 2 weeks. It?s going to be tied up at a slip at Harrington Harbour Marina in Deale Md with a couple of hundred other boats. Any advice as to how many of what kind of fenders will work in a typical berthing arrangement? Dimensions? Round/Flat? I checked the achieves and gather Elton had some type of neat fender that slung over the gunnel, but that was a while ago. I?ve looked through the West Marine stuff and there are Taylor low freeboard fenders and fence saver fenders that might similar to posters were referring to (i.e. appear to sling over the gunnel), but I don?t know. There are flat fenders and conforming flat fenders. And then there are the good old round cylinders. And all of the above in a variety of lengths and thicknesses. What works? Dave __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From napoli68 at charter.net Thu Mar 23 18:51:31 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Thu Mar 23 21:30:40 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 owners in NW? References: <006701c64d5f$11e6d450$4200a8c0@fletcher> Message-ID: <000b01c64eed$db6ff100$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Hey Bob, I live in SW Oregon (Medford) and have owned a Rhodes of one kind or another since 1976. Contact me at napoli68@charter.net or you can call me at (541) 857-1061. I'll be happy to give you all the skinny on the Rhodes. There are also several owners in the Seattle area and one in the Tahoe area also, I can give you contact info if you contact me. Chris Geankoplis S/V Enosis Medford, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Fletcher" To: Cc: "Rhodes 22- General Boats" Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:16 PM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 owners in NW? I am planning to buy a trailerable sailboat in the next year and a Rhodes 22 is on the top of our list. Stan is tempting me with a "custom built" version for '07 but, of course, it would be nice to look at one first and get some owner's feedback. We live in NW Montana. Is there an owner in Montana, (unlikely), Idaho, Washington, Oregon or northern California who could help us? Thanks, Bob Fletcher __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From mltroy at verizon.net Thu Mar 23 21:36:04 2006 From: mltroy at verizon.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Thu Mar 23 21:36:05 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? In-Reply-To: <27c.7f0f4d1.31549c1c@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20060323210138.01de56c8@incoming.verizon.net> Hi Dave, Are you going to be a Herrington Harbor North? From what I've seen of that marina, the slips look pretty nice. We've never had to use fenders in our own slip at Swan Creek. There have been a few times in transient slips where we've used them. An example would be the Inner Harbor Marina in Baltimore with its floating docks where you only tie up on one side. We also use fenders at fuel docks & t-heads and of course for raft-ups. We've found that the fenders that Elton was selling are far and away the best. They are the Taylor-Made low freeboard fenders and are about 23" long and 7" in diameter. Here's a link to the Taylor-Made page: http://www.boatcovers.cc/cgi-bin/catalog.pl?item_id=9 They also show up on p 612 of the 2006 West Marine Catalog. If Elton is still selling them, his price was a bit better if I recall. I've attached a picture of Fretless rafted up with a much larger boat. You can just the fender between the two boats. These work so well that we've given up using almost everything else. Mary Lou 1991 R22 Fretless Ft. Washington, PA / Rock Hall, MD (Swan Creek) At 07:49 PM 3/23/2006 -0500, you wrote: > >Folks, > >We???re getting ready to actually get our boat, it should happen in about 2 >weeks. It???s going to be tied up at a slip at Harrington Harbour Marina in >Deale Md with a couple of hundred other boats. > >Any advice as to how many of what kind of fenders will work in a typical >berthing arrangement? Dimensions? Round/Flat? > >I checked the achieves and gather Elton had some type of neat fender that >slung over the gunnel, but that was a while ago. I???ve looked through >the West >Marine stuff and there are Taylor low freeboard fenders and fence saver >fenders that might similar to posters were referring to (i.e. appear to >sling over >the gunnel), but I don???t know. There are flat fenders and conforming flat >fenders. And then there are the good old round cylinders. And all of the >above in a variety of lengths and thicknesses. > >What works? > >Dave > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list -------------- next part -------------- Name: fender.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 113895 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200603/23/fender.jpg From engineerpac at gmail.com Thu Mar 23 22:10:40 2006 From: engineerpac at gmail.com (andrew collins) Date: Thu Mar 23 23:10:44 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Transom mount transducer Message-ID: <206efdf40603232010v589eb7d3h72282a00845067fa@mail.gmail.com> Mary Lou- My name is Andrew Collins, and I am awaiting a recycled '86 R22, and even saw it at GBI two weeks ago, it looks great. I had saved your input on a transom mount speed(?) transducer, using a clever arrangement of PVC pipe to make it removable, but cannot find the post. Could you re-post this? I would be grateful, as am trying to figure out the best way to mount a depth and speed transom mount transducer for a Furuno 6100 Fishfinder. Thanks Andrew From tfl4625 at blackfoot.net Thu Mar 23 23:42:01 2006 From: tfl4625 at blackfoot.net (Bob Fletcher) Date: Fri Mar 24 01:42:07 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 owners in NW? References: <006701c64d5f$11e6d450$4200a8c0@fletcher> <000b01c64eed$db6ff100$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Message-ID: <016e01c64f0e$0f36e4b0$4200a8c0@fletcher> Chris, Thanks for the response. I will call at some more appropriate tme than now- maybe this weekend. I think I am already hooked., without even seeing one, but would like some more "perspective." Recycycled vs. new; sail choices; etc... We are in NW Montana within a 2 hour drive of half a dozen large lakes, with aspirations, (or delusions), of trips to the San Juans once we figure out what we are doing. The Rhodes looks like the only (perfect) balance of "trailerability" in a "real" sailboat with more potential than I will ever master. We have some long lost friends on the Oregon coast and a boat viewing trip would be a perfect excuse to visit them. Bob Fletcher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Geankoplis" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 owners in NW? > Hey Bob, > I live in SW Oregon (Medford) and have owned a Rhodes of one > kind or another since 1976. Contact me at napoli68@charter.net or you can > call me at (541) 857-1061. I'll be happy to give you all the skinny on > the > Rhodes. There are also several owners in the Seattle area and one in the > Tahoe area also, I can give you contact info if you contact me. > > Chris Geankoplis > S/V Enosis > Medford, OR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Fletcher" > To: > Cc: "Rhodes 22- General Boats" > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:16 PM > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 owners in NW? > > > I am planning to buy a trailerable sailboat in the next year and a Rhodes > 22 > is on the top of our list. Stan is tempting me with a "custom built" > version for '07 but, of course, it would be nice to look at one first and > get some owner's feedback. > > We live in NW Montana. Is there an owner in Montana, (unlikely), Idaho, > Washington, Oregon or northern California who could help us? > > Thanks, > > Bob Fletcher > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From dwbrad at gmail.com Thu Mar 23 22:44:07 2006 From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley) Date: Fri Mar 24 01:44:13 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update In-Reply-To: <12195051.1143158203914.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <12195051.1143158203914.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5c154df70603232244u6951188dv13276e55fdd7e714@mail.gmail.com> Somebody should. - ) On 3/23/06, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > > Hey, > If you arrive after I do, can I just sail your boat until... > Art > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: David Bradley > >Sent: Mar 23, 2006 11:47 AM > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update > > > >Art, I'm not sure when I'll make it to NC. I think my boat is about done > >but I've immersed myself in the new job in Seattle so need to figure out > >when I can escape for a few days. I'm still hoping to be one of the > first > >boom room customers. > > > >Dave > > > > > >On 3/23/06, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > >> > >> Dave, > >> Thank you for your tenacity, and Bill's, my friend. When do you travel > to > >> NC, of do you know yet? BTW I am planning to have prototype based on > your > >> preference ~4' sections. > >> Cheers, > >> Art > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> >From: David Bradley > >> >Sent: Mar 22, 2006 8:39 PM > >> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update > >> > > >> >Building on Bill's comments... thanks to Art for coming forward with a > >> way > >> >to get this done. Stan has been a little backlogged on mail so we're > >> >waiting to define the next steps. I'm glad Stan is feeling better and > >> >building boats, and I know we'll hear when he's ready. Just wanted to > >> >'splain why we went a little dark on this subject. > >> > > >> >Dave B. > >> > > >> > > >> >On 3/22/06, Bill Effros wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Dave, > >> >> > >> >> Art is building a prototype which he will bring to Stan as soon as > the > >> >> pressure is off Stan to produce new boats for the current season. > >> >> > >> >> Then we'll hear what Stan has to say, and go forward from there. > >> >> > >> >> Also they will try it on different boats to ensure that one design > will > >> >> fit all boats. > >> >> > >> >> In theory, the Boom Room will have the same top frame for all boats, > >> >> with interchangeable side, front, and rear panels designed to fit > >> >> different boats and different circumstances. > >> >> > >> >> Art is trying to see if he can make that work. > >> >> > >> >> In any case, Art expects to be able to pump out boom rooms for all > who > >> >> want them, and to have them all out the door by this summer. Art is > >> >> trying to bring in the Boom Rooms for a retail price through Stan of > >> $999. > >> >> > >> >> We'll see. > >> >> > >> >> Bill Effros > >> >> > >> >> Dave Dallas wrote: > >> >> > Hi Bob; > >> >> > > >> >> > My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did > not > >> >> take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. > >> >> > > >> >> > Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's > demo > >> >> boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, > and > >> am > >> >> still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft > end > >> of > >> >> April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until > >> >> then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out > of > >> >> Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! > >> >> > > >> >> > I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does > >> anyone > >> >> know what is happening with the Boom Room development? > >> >> > > >> >> > David Dallas > >> >> > > >> >> > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org > >> >> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle > >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM > >> >> > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > >> >> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Bob: > >> >> > Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your > >> >> questions to > >> >> > the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new > >> blood > >> >> will > >> >> > bring the sharks. > >> >> > First, you might take a look at this web site: > >> >> > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 > >> >> > While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in > Calgary > >> is > >> >> a > >> >> > Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently > took > >> >> himself > >> >> > off the frapper. I do not know why. > >> >> > Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few > days > >> and > >> >> fly > >> >> > to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous > and > >> >> > imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com > >> >> > I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost > make > >> 60 > >> >> in > >> >> > full sun today. See: > >> >> > http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ > >> >> > > >> >> > Ed K > >> >> > Greenville, SC, USA > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > View this message in context: > >> >> http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 > >> >> > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >> >> > > >> >> > __________________________________________________ > >> >> > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> >> > __________________________________________________ > >> >> > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> __________________________________________________ > >> >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> >David Bradley > >> >203.253.9973 > >> >dwbrad@gmail.com > >> >__________________________________________________ > >> >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >David Bradley > >203.253.9973 > >dwbrad@gmail.com > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- David Bradley 203.253.9973 dwbrad@gmail.com From bill at effros.com Fri Mar 24 08:34:24 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Fri Mar 24 08:34:29 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boomroom In-Reply-To: <20690130.1143158734657.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <20690130.1143158734657.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4423F560.2050002@effros.com> Art, I think we'd all love to see work-in-progress pictures, if you've got them. Bill Effros Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > Bill, > I should have changed the subject line, my error. The fit looks mighty good - I sure like the hull shape with the curtains. I'll keep you posted on my trip. Hope all is well with you. > Art > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Bill Effros >> Sent: Mar 22, 2006 12:49 PM >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >> >> Sorry, Art, >> >> Didn't see this because of unchanged subject line before replying re >> Boom Room. >> >> Bill Effros >> >> Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: >> >>> David, >>> >>> The first unit will be fit to my boat this afternoon, for final tailoring. I'm anticipating delivering it to Stan in >>> Edenton, probably in about two weeks. It looks good in Pacific Blue, also in Black. I can send a snapshot if you would like. >>> >>> R, >>> Art >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> >>>> From: Dave Dallas >>>> Sent: Mar 22, 2006 10:53 AM >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >>>> >>>> Hi Bob; >>>> >>>> My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. >>>> >>>> Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and am still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end of April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! >>>> >>>> I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does anyone know what is happening with the Boom Room development? >>>> >>>> David Dallas >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM >>>> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bob: >>>> Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions to >>>> the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood will >>>> bring the sharks. >>>> First, you might take a look at this web site: >>>> http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 >>>> While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a >>>> Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took himself >>>> off the frapper. I do not know why. >>>> Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and fly >>>> to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and >>>> imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com >>>> I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 in >>>> full sun today. See: >>>> http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ >>>> >>>> Ed K >>>> Greenville, SC, USA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 >>>> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >>> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From ekroposki at charter.net Fri Mar 24 05:36:19 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Fri Mar 24 08:36:25 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Montana Bob, some generic information In-Reply-To: <016e01c64f0e$0f36e4b0$4200a8c0@fletcher> References: <006701c64d5f$11e6d450$4200a8c0@fletcher> <000b01c64eed$db6ff100$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> <016e01c64f0e$0f36e4b0$4200a8c0@fletcher> Message-ID: <3571177.post@talk.nabble.com> Bob, May I encourage you to explore the following web sites in detail: 1. Commodore Stanley Spitzers official web site: http://rhodes22.com 2. This site, http://rhodes22.org and follow all the hot keys to all the detail information. This is not only an email hosting site, but importantly, a picture and document archival site. There is more information contained therein than you could imagine. 3. If you want to follow the emails back by thread, topic, author, you can also use this site: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes22-f14229.html 4. You may have noticed Captain to be Collins requesting Mary Lou to repost some information that she posted in the past. If by chance you want to find a recent post or a post on a specific topic then you can research the archives. There are seach tools available to those interested enough to do some work. 5. Keep in mind you can always view this list directly on the WEB. Just go to: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/ For some this is much faster than downing emails intermittantly during the day when they would fill the mail box. In order to reply to the list after viewing on the WEB go to the nabble site cited above and find email you want to reply to and hit reply. This method allows you to reply directly to that email and offers the receiver the opportunity to check the previous email to see what you are replying to. This system was set up by your host the illustrious computer wizard, Michael Meltzer of NYC. 6. Now to your question of new versus recycle versus used versus project boat. Project boats are a special challange for special people. They require a lot of time and work. Used boats in good condition occassionally come on the market. If they are priced fairly, they only are on the market a day or two. If they are priced what the seller thinks they are worth, it takes longer. In both cases they do not offer any guarentee. Stan offers new boats custom made to your spec's. These are usually take at least six months to a year to build. He offers recycled hulls subject to availablity. A recycled can cost more than a new boat if it was made with all the bells, electronics and gadgets. However, delivery can be quicker than new. 7. When viewing this list, keep in mind that the subject line does not always reflect the subject. In fact, some subject lines are 100% wrong. Also, someone in the recent past told how to use Google to search the archives. Unfortunately, I did not save that post. 8. Again, feel free to post your questions to the list. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3571177 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From ekroposki at charter.net Fri Mar 24 05:44:48 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Fri Mar 24 08:44:50 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Question for Bill Effros about searching archives? In-Reply-To: <20690130.1143158734657.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <20690130.1143158734657.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3571303.post@talk.nabble.com> Bill: Recently there was a post on how to use Google to search the archives. Did you happen to save that post? Or do you remember who posted it? I am not asking about downloading the google desktop but using a specific address in the Google inquiry. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Boomroom-t1333709.html#a3571303 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From mltroy at verizon.net Fri Mar 24 08:50:05 2006 From: mltroy at verizon.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Fri Mar 24 08:49:53 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Transom mount transducer In-Reply-To: <206efdf40603232010v589eb7d3h72282a00845067fa@mail.gmail.co m> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20060324084735.02710268@incoming.verizon.net> Andrew, I'll try to find it and forward it to you. Our fishfinder just gets used for depth not speed. We've never set it up for fish. Mary Lou At 10:10 PM 3/23/2006 -0600, you wrote: >Mary Lou- > >My name is Andrew Collins, and I am awaiting a recycled '86 R22, and even >saw it at GBI two weeks ago, it looks great. I had saved your input on a >transom mount speed(?) transducer, using a clever arrangement of PVC pipe to >make it removable, but cannot find the post. Could you re-post this? I would >be grateful, as am trying to figure out the best way to mount a depth and >speed transom mount transducer for a Furuno 6100 Fishfinder. > >Thanks > >Andrew >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From gjm at macgra.com Fri Mar 24 08:57:19 2006 From: gjm at macgra.com (Gregg J. MacMillan) Date: Fri Mar 24 08:58:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Transom mount transducer In-Reply-To: <206efdf40603232010v589eb7d3h72282a00845067fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <206efdf40603232010v589eb7d3h72282a00845067fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 10:10 PM -0600 3/23/06, andrew collins wrote: >I had saved your input on a transom mount speed(?) transducer, using >a clever arrangement of PVC pipe to >make it removable, but cannot find the post. Could you re-post this? Here it is: --Gregg +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:19:09 -0500 From: Mary Lou Troy Subject: depth transducer Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS and Depth Finder Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list Rummy mentioned our transducer mount - it's a little tacky but it works. We were going to mount our transducer to shoot through the hull in the lazarette. In testing it out we found that it worked until we got into shallow water (less than 8 ft.) and then turbulence either from the keel or the motor seemed to disrupt it. Since our transducer was designed for a stern mount we decided to mount it there temporarily while we decided what to do. That was about six years ago. The transducer is mounted on a length of PVC. The PVC has a cap on the top and two stainless steel hooks that fit over the stern rail. One hook supports the PVC when the transducer is in the water, the other supports it in a position well out of the water. A U-bolt with a removable plate holds the PVC against the stern rail support adjacent to the swim ladder. Pictures are attached. One is of the boat sailing away from the camera. You can see the PVC pipe next to the swim ladder and the fishfinder screen on a removable mount next to the left of the companionway. Another picture is of the PVC with the hook over the stern rail. Next is the U-bolt holding the PVC against the stern rail support. The cable runs over the transom and along the drain channel at the back of the seats to the line-holder for the the centerboard pennant to the screen on the other side of the companionway. Last (if these transmit in order) is the transducer attached to the base of the PVC. The transducer reads fairly accurately on the stern. It varies a bit from tack to tack but it's close enough to the centerline that this isn't an issue. It does come out of the water if we are hobbyhorsing over wakes or in steep chop but we try not to do that much. Hope someone found this interesting. Mary Lou 1991 R22 Fretless Ft. Washington, PA / Swan Creek, MD At 09:10 AM 1/13/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Mark, >If you do decide on a depth finder, I'm with Mary Lou, get a combination >fish finder/depth finder. We have one on the Chris Craft and they are nice >because you can see what's on the bottom. Ours also tells us the >water temperature >and the unit is mounted on the transom of the boat. You might ask Mary Lou >where they have the transducer mounted on the R22. > >Rummy >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list Name: fretlesssailing.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 101080 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200601/13/fretlesssailing.jpg Name: depth mount 001a.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 139511 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200601/13/depthmount001a.jpg Name: depth mount 002a.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 44607 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200601/13/depthmount002a.jpg Name: depth mount 004a.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 62629 bytes Desc: not available Url: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200601/13/depthmount004a.jpg __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list -- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ M a c M i l l a n G r a p h i c s 1 . 8 0 0 . 7 7 1 . 3 1 7 1 2002 Ford Circle, Milford, OH 45150 mailto:gjm@macgra.com http://www.macgra.com _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ From hnw555 at gmail.com Fri Mar 24 08:58:38 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Fri Mar 24 08:58:42 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Question for Bill Effros about searching archives? In-Reply-To: <3571303.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <20690130.1143158734657.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <3571303.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: Ed, In the search window you would type the following "centerboard site: www.rhodes22.org" where centerboard is the word you want to search on and "site:www.rhodes22.org" is the site you wish to search. Hank On 3/24/06, Tootle wrote: > > > Bill: > Recently there was a post on how to use Google to search the archives. > Did you happen to save that post? Or do you remember who posted it? I > am > not asking about downloading the google desktop but using a specific > address > in the Google inquiry. > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Boomroom-t1333709.html#a3571303 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From rlowe at vt.edu Fri Mar 24 09:29:46 2006 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Rob Lowe) Date: Fri Mar 24 09:30:44 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk References: <4258770.1143044355348.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <44218EDB.5020402@effros.com> <39c52f6f0603221943i50e75a3eu80221b5ddb74809@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005601c64f4f$66963ad0$58ac52c6@ehss.vt.edu> Todd, One of the best aspects of this list, we are always happy to remind you of past mistakes. The best part is people are always willing to bring them up so the rest of us can learn from them. - rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Zumach" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk Gents, I will add my two bits to this conversation. Prior to putting my boat on the water for the first time last year, I read through the owners manual (twice, I think). Unfortunately, I didn't review the trailer loading section again before the haul out at the end of the season. I forgot about the keel being partially dropped and I also set the trailer too deep. It took us (myself and three helpers) about 30 minutes to get the boat on the trailer! Several times we thought we had it and when my wife pulled the boat out of the water we discovered the keel had settled on the starboard bunk. When I got home, I noticed that the starboard bunk was damaged. That day, October 11, 2005 will be permanently burned into my memory because of the painful lessons learned. Needless to say, I appreciate this message string because it allows me to remember my stupid mistakes. Another lesson for the newbie. Todd Z. On 3/22/06, Bill Effros wrote: > > I always line up my trailer straight with my truck and aim for the V at > the bow. The board always brings it in. People can gouge their bottoms > with the side guides if they become submerged. Here that can happen as > the tide comes in. > > Bill Effros > > Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > > Steve, > > I have done the same with mine - 60" side guides with PVC pipe to > complement the keel guide. It is difficult to lose sight of the longer > guides (West standard stock), and if need be can simply 'cap' with a longer > piece of 2" pipe. A little additional insurance for deeper ramps. > > The bunk repair should be easy, Rob. You may be able to just reinforce > the existing bunk on the bottom with a piece of 2x4... > > Art > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: thescubatank@cox.net > >> Sent: Mar 22, 2006 11:09 AM > >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >> Subject: Re: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > >> > >> Rob, > >> > >> When I built up my trailer a year ago, I bought a used power boat dual > axel trailer that had guide poles at the back of the trailer on each > side. They were set at appox 8 feet apart and covered with 2 inch pvc > pipe. I left the on and they provide the perfect guide for launching and > loading Ad Astra. This way I do not have to worry if I go too deep on a > ramp. Ad Astra lines up everytime and the stern does not move. This has > alsomed it easier to launch by my self. She doesn't move on the trailer > until I pull her back. Just a thought for you. > >> > >> Steve > >> S/V Ad Astra > >> > >>> From: "Rob Lowe" > >>> Date: 2006/03/22 Wed AM 10:55:36 EST > >>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > >>> > >>> Bill, > >>> I'm still not sure what happened, but I did back the trailer into the > water > >>> more than I usually do in an attempt to get the boat forward enough on > the > >>> trailer. I usually have to winch it pretty hard up against the bow > stop and > >>> I figured it would be easier if the trailer was more submerged. I > don't go > >>> in board down because I'd be hitting the bottom of the ramp with it, > but I > >>> can see putting the board part way down to help as a guide. The bow > was > >>> positioned between the bunks OK but I guess the stern was cockeyed a > bit. > >>> The stern usually settles down nicely when I pull the trailer but that > time > >>> it just came down on the bunk and cracked it. I just backed up, > >>> repositioned the boat, and she came out just fine. I'll be more > careful > >>> from now on. > >>> > >>> > >>> Rob Lowe > >>> S/V Getaway > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Bill Effros" > >>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:02 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Rob, > >>>> > >>>> I didn't know that was possible. Elton taught me to position the > >>>> trailer with roughly a foot of the leading edge of the bunks out of > >>>> water. On my boat ramp that always forces the keel into the slot. I > go > >>>> in with the board down, or at least part way down, and the trailer > >>>> forces the board back up as it aligns the keel in the slot. The > leading > >>>> edge of the bunks lifts the bow out of the water before it can hit > the > >>>> > >>> stop. > >>> > >>>> It works for me. > >>>> > >>>> Bill Effros > >>>> > >>>> Rob Lowe wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Lou, > >>>>> Thanks for asking the question, I have the same problem. Somehow > when > >>>>> > >>> we > >>> > >>>>> were pulling the boat last fall it got off to one side just a > bit. When > >>>>> > >>> I > >>> > >>>>> started to pull the trailer and boat out of the water, the boat > lurched > >>>>> > >>> to > >>> > >>>>> one side. I backed into the water and we reset the boat on the > trailer > >>>>> > >>> and > >>> > >>>>> pulled it out, but noticed the bunk was cracked. Seemed the keel > had > >>>>> > >>> come > >>> > >>>>> to rest on top of the bunk and broke it when I tried to pull the > trailer > >>>>> out. Probably got the trailer too deep into the water and the keel > >>>>> > >>> floated > >>> > >>>>> up over the guides. The boat has been sitting on the broken bunk > just > >>>>> > >>> fine > >>> > >>>>> all winter, but I need to replace the bunk once I float the boat. - > rob > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Lou Rosenberg" > >>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:40 PM > >>>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> I have a serious question about ,, well, bunk. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> My trailer has 2 bunks and one is broken. I need to cut new > wood > >>>>>> and resurface the bunks and was wondering what type of bunk cover > >>>>>> anyone might recommend?? > >>>>>> velour is out of the question and terry cloth is too light. > >>>>>> and that ebay boat has PROJECT written all over it. But its > >>>>>> probably in better shape than mine so I'll be quiet now. > >>>>>> safe sailin to those in warmer climes.. > >>>>>> Lou > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> __________________________________________________ > >>>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> __________________________________________________ > >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >>>> > >>> __________________________________________________ > >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >>> > >>> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From bill at effros.com Fri Mar 24 10:05:08 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Fri Mar 24 10:05:17 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Question for Bill Effros about searching archives? In-Reply-To: References: <20690130.1143158734657.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <3571303.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <44240AA4.90802@effros.com> Ed, If this answer doesn't do it for you, please repost the question. Thanks, Hank, Bill Effros Hank wrote: > Ed, > > In the search window you would type the following "centerboard site: > www.rhodes22.org" where centerboard is the word you want to search on and > "site:www.rhodes22.org" is the site you wish to search. > > Hank > > > On 3/24/06, Tootle wrote: > >> Bill: >> Recently there was a post on how to use Google to search the archives. >> Did you happen to save that post? Or do you remember who posted it? I >> am >> not asking about downloading the google desktop but using a specific >> address >> in the Google inquiry. >> >> Ed K >> Greenville, SC, USA >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Boomroom-t1333709.html#a3571303 >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 24 09:06:39 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Fri Mar 24 10:06:45 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? In-Reply-To: <27c.7f0f4d1.31549c1c@aol.com> Message-ID: Dave, I use the 12" Ball type fenders. I think they are better than the Gunkhole type since they will Roll along the dock. When docking i teach my students to come in the slip at an angle, the fenders make contact and roll along the dock until I can secure the stearn line that keeps me from going too far forward. There a some purist out there cringing but It works for people with almost no tiller time. I also use the fenders as buoys during the class to practice man overboard, etc. Bob Weber S/V Ruba >From: DCLewis1@aol.com >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:49:32 EST > > > >Folks, > >We’re getting ready to actually get our boat, it should happen in about 2 >weeks. It’s going to be tied up at a slip at Harrington Harbour Marina >in >Deale Md with a couple of hundred other boats. > >Any advice as to how many of what kind of fenders will work in a typical >berthing arrangement? Dimensions? Round/Flat? > >I checked the achieves and gather Elton had some type of neat fender that >slung over the gunnel, but that was a while ago. I’ve looked through the > West >Marine stuff and there are Taylor low freeboard fenders and fence saver >fenders that might similar to posters were referring to (i.e. appear to >sling over >the gunnel), but I don’t know. There are flat fenders and conforming >flat >fenders. And then there are the good old round cylinders. And all of the >above in a variety of lengths and thicknesses. > >What works? > >Dave > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From bill at effros.com Fri Mar 24 10:08:20 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Fri Mar 24 10:08:33 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Yesterday Fishfinder In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20060324084735.02710268@incoming.verizon.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20060324084735.02710268@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <44240B64.7010505@effros.com> Mary Lou, Just tell people it's a "Yesterday Fishfinder" as in "You should have seen it yesterday..." Bill Effros Mary Lou Troy wrote: > Andrew, > I'll try to find it and forward it to you. Our fishfinder just gets > used for depth not speed. We've never set it up for fish. > > Mary Lou > > > At 10:10 PM 3/23/2006 -0600, you wrote: >> Mary Lou- >> >> My name is Andrew Collins, and I am awaiting a recycled '86 R22, and >> even >> saw it at GBI two weeks ago, it looks great. I had saved your input on a >> transom mount speed(?) transducer, using a clever arrangement of PVC >> pipe to >> make it removable, but cannot find the post. Could you re-post this? >> I would >> be grateful, as am trying to figure out the best way to mount a depth >> and >> speed transom mount transducer for a Furuno 6100 Fishfinder. >> >> Thanks >> >> Andrew >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From czerwonky at earthlink.net Fri Mar 24 12:27:06 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Fri Mar 24 12:27:16 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boomroom Message-ID: <5190682.1143221226721.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hey, I'm much too busy working... Art -----Original Message----- >From: Bill Effros >Sent: Mar 24, 2006 8:34 AM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boomroom > >Art, > >I think we'd all love to see work-in-progress pictures, if you've got them. > >Bill Effros > >Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: >> Bill, >> I should have changed the subject line, my error. The fit looks mighty good - I sure like the hull shape with the curtains. I'll keep you posted on my trip. Hope all is well with you. >> Art >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Bill Effros >>> Sent: Mar 22, 2006 12:49 PM >>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >>> >>> Sorry, Art, >>> >>> Didn't see this because of unchanged subject line before replying re >>> Boom Room. >>> >>> Bill Effros >>> >>> Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: >>> >>>> David, >>>> >>>> The first unit will be fit to my boat this afternoon, for final tailoring. I'm anticipating delivering it to Stan in >>>> Edenton, probably in about two weeks. It looks good in Pacific Blue, also in Black. I can send a snapshot if you would like. >>>> >>>> R, >>>> Art >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Dave Dallas >>>>> Sent: Mar 22, 2006 10:53 AM >>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >>>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >>>>> >>>>> Hi Bob; >>>>> >>>>> My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not take my name off Frapper; I will have to check. >>>>> >>>>> Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo boats. Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and am still getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end of April, beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until then. Let me know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of Flathead? I haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! >>>>> >>>>> I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does anyone know what is happening with the Boom Room development? >>>>> >>>>> David Dallas >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org >>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM >>>>> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bob: >>>>> Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions to >>>>> the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood will >>>>> bring the sharks. >>>>> First, you might take a look at this web site: >>>>> http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 >>>>> While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a >>>>> Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took himself >>>>> off the frapper. I do not know why. >>>>> Here is another suggestion. Get out of the cold for a few days and fly >>>>> to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and >>>>> imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com >>>>> I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 in >>>>> full sun today. See: >>>>> http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ >>>>> >>>>> Ed K >>>>> Greenville, SC, USA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 >>>>> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From engineerpac at gmail.com Fri Mar 24 12:29:13 2006 From: engineerpac at gmail.com (andrew collins) Date: Fri Mar 24 12:29:18 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Yesterday's fabulous transom mount transducer Message-ID: <206efdf40603240929y2927abbcx63295dfe31d9bcf7@mail.gmail.com> Mary Lou, Gregg and Bill E.- Thanks! Andrew On 3/24/06, Gregg J. MacMillan wrote: > > At 10:10 PM -0600 3/23/06, andrew collins wrote: > >I had saved your input on a transom mount speed(?) transducer, using > >a clever arrangement of PVC pipe to > >make it removable, but cannot find the post. Could you re-post this? > > Here it is: > > --Gregg > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:19:09 -0500 > From: Mary Lou Troy > Subject: depth transducer Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS and Depth Finder > Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > Rummy mentioned our transducer mount - it's a little tacky but it > works. We were going to mount our transducer to shoot through the > hull in the lazarette. In testing it out we found that it worked > until we got into shallow water (less than 8 ft.) and then turbulence > either from the keel or the motor seemed to disrupt it. Since our > transducer was designed for a stern mount we decided to mount it > there temporarily while we decided what to do. That was about six > years ago. > > The transducer is mounted on a length of PVC. The PVC has a cap on > the top and two stainless steel hooks that fit over the stern rail. > One hook supports the PVC when the transducer is in the water, the > other supports it in a position well out of the water. A U-bolt with > a removable plate holds the PVC against the stern rail support > adjacent to the swim ladder. Pictures are attached. One is of the > boat sailing away from the camera. You can see the PVC pipe next to > the swim ladder and the fishfinder screen on a removable mount next > to the left of the companionway. Another picture is of the PVC with > the hook over the stern rail. Next is the U-bolt holding the PVC > against the stern rail support. The cable runs over the transom and > along the drain channel at the back of the seats to the line-holder > for the the centerboard pennant to the screen on the other side of > the companionway. Last (if these transmit in order) is the transducer > attached to the base of the PVC. > > The transducer reads fairly accurately on the stern. It varies a bit > from tack to tack but it's close enough to the centerline that this > isn't an issue. It does come out of the water if we are hobbyhorsing > over wakes or in steep chop but we try not to do that much. > > Hope someone found this interesting. > > Mary Lou > 1991 R22 Fretless > Ft. Washington, PA / Swan Creek, MD > > > > At 09:10 AM 1/13/2006 -0500, you wrote: > >Mark, > >If you do decide on a depth finder, I'm with Mary Lou, get a combination > >fish finder/depth finder. We have one on the Chris Craft and they are > nice > >because you can see what's on the bottom. Ours also tells us the > >water temperature > >and the unit is mounted on the transom of the boat. You might ask Mary > Lou > >where they have the transducer mounted on the R22. > > > >Rummy > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > Name: fretlesssailing.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 101080 bytes Desc: > not available > Url: > > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200601/13/fretlesssailing.jpg > > Name: depth mount 001a.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 139511 bytes Desc: > not available > Url: > > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200601/13/depthmount001a.jpg > > Name: depth mount 002a.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 44607 bytes Desc: > not available > Url: > > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200601/13/depthmount002a.jpg > > Name: depth mount 004a.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 62629 bytes Desc: > not available > Url: > > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200601/13/depthmount004a.jpg > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > > M a c M i l l a n G r a p h i c s > 1 . 8 0 0 . 7 7 1 . 3 1 7 1 > 2002 Ford Circle, Milford, OH 45150 > mailto:gjm@macgra.com > http://www.macgra.com > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- Andrew From czerwonky at earthlink.net Fri Mar 24 12:32:57 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Fri Mar 24 12:33:01 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Montana Bob, some generic information Message-ID: <7023231.1143221577458.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ed, Case in point. With Bob's message attached, the one that prompted your reply, all of can easily scan, perhaps add some of our own ideas. This generates healthy discussion for the list. Make sense to you? Art -----Original Message----- >From: Tootle >Sent: Mar 24, 2006 8:36 AM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Montana Bob, some generic information > > >Bob, > May I encourage you to explore the following web sites in detail: > 1. Commodore Stanley Spitzers official web site: http://rhodes22.com > 2. This site, http://rhodes22.org and follow all the hot keys to all >the detail information. This is not only an email hosting site, but >importantly, a picture and document archival site. There is more >information contained therein than you could imagine. > 3. If you want to follow the emails back by thread, topic, author, >you can also use this site: >http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes22-f14229.html > 4. You may have noticed Captain to be Collins requesting Mary Lou to >repost some information that she posted in the past. If by chance you want >to find a recent post or a post on a specific topic then you can research >the archives. There are seach tools available to those interested enough >to do some work. > 5. Keep in mind you can always view this list directly on the WEB. >Just go to: >http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/ For some this is much >faster than downing emails intermittantly during the day when they would >fill the mail box. In order to reply to the list after viewing on the WEB >go to the nabble site cited above and find email you want to reply to and >hit reply. This method allows you to reply directly to that email and >offers the receiver the opportunity to check the previous email to see what >you are replying to. This system was set up by your host the illustrious >computer wizard, Michael Meltzer of NYC. > 6. Now to your question of new versus recycle versus used versus >project boat. Project boats are a special challange for special people. >They require a lot of time and work. Used boats in good condition >occassionally come on the market. If they are priced fairly, they only are >on the market a day or two. If they are priced what the seller thinks they >are worth, it takes longer. In both cases they do not offer any guarentee. > Stan offers new boats custom made to your spec's. These are >usually take at least six months to a year to build. He offers recycled >hulls subject to availablity. A recycled can cost more than a new boat if >it was made with all the bells, electronics and gadgets. However, delivery >can be quicker than new. > 7. When viewing this list, keep in mind that the subject line does >not always reflect the subject. In fact, some subject lines are 100% >wrong. Also, someone in the recent past told how to use Google to search >the archives. Unfortunately, I did not save that post. > 8. Again, feel free to post your questions to the list. > > >Ed K >Greenville, SC, USA >-- >View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3571177 >Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From robert at squirrelhaven.com Fri Mar 24 20:11:41 2006 From: robert at squirrelhaven.com (Robert Skinner) Date: Fri Mar 24 20:12:58 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? References: Message-ID: <442498CD.4216074E@squirrelhaven.com> Dave, keep in mind the lowly fender board. A 2x6 slung over the side (backed with a few cylindrical inflatable fenders on the boat side) will handle situations where you have to tie up next to pilings, and may be a necessary permanent fixture in some inexpensive or rough slips. /Bob Skinner From napoli68 at charter.net Fri Mar 24 20:05:33 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Fri Mar 24 22:44:41 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 owners in NW? References: <006701c64d5f$11e6d450$4200a8c0@fletcher><000b01c64eed$db6ff100$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> <016e01c64f0e$0f36e4b0$4200a8c0@fletcher> Message-ID: <000901c64fc1$5d958400$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Dear Bob, Looking forward to your call. By all means check out those archives on all your questions as you will get a plethora (sailor talk for a bunch) of colorful opinions. And visit those friends. The boat is sitting on the trailer right now, I've just sent the sail up to be repaired (Genny) and I don't expect it back for a month. But you can look at the boat. Even if it is a bit elderly (83) it will give you some idea of the room and construction. Then go buy yourself one of Stan's Recycled or New ones and I can come vist you! Chris G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Fletcher" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 owners in NW? > Chris, > > Thanks for the response. I will call at some more appropriate tme than > now- maybe this weekend. I think I am already hooked., without even seeing > one, but would like some more "perspective." Recycycled vs. new; sail > choices; etc... We are in NW Montana within a 2 hour drive of half a dozen > large lakes, with aspirations, (or delusions), of trips to the San Juans > once we figure out what we are doing. > > The Rhodes looks like the only (perfect) balance of "trailerability" in a > "real" sailboat with more potential than I will ever master. > > We have some long lost friends on the Oregon coast and a boat viewing trip > would be a perfect excuse to visit them. > > Bob Fletcher > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Geankoplis" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 owners in NW? > > > > Hey Bob, > > I live in SW Oregon (Medford) and have owned a Rhodes of one > > kind or another since 1976. Contact me at napoli68@charter.net or you can > > call me at (541) 857-1061. I'll be happy to give you all the skinny on > > the > > Rhodes. There are also several owners in the Seattle area and one in the > > Tahoe area also, I can give you contact info if you contact me. > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > S/V Enosis > > Medford, OR > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Fletcher" > > To: > > Cc: "Rhodes 22- General Boats" > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:16 PM > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 owners in NW? > > > > > > I am planning to buy a trailerable sailboat in the next year and a Rhodes > > 22 > > is on the top of our list. Stan is tempting me with a "custom built" > > version for '07 but, of course, it would be nice to look at one first and > > get some owner's feedback. > > > > We live in NW Montana. Is there an owner in Montana, (unlikely), Idaho, > > Washington, Oregon or northern California who could help us? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bob Fletcher > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From DCLewis1 at aol.com Sat Mar 25 22:29:50 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 25 22:30:01 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Message-ID: <260.9519ccc.315764ae@aol.com> Hank, Will, Mary Lou, BobW, BobS, everyone, Thank you all for responding to my fender query. Based on your input, I think our first step is to actually visit the slip they?ve given us and see what our neighbors use. I gather there?s no canonical solution. Will, Flat sounds great, but they?re not going to roll if the boat is moving fore and aft, they?re just going to rub and abrade against the pier/piling/whatever. Have you actually used flat fenders? Do they work well for you? If you do use them, what thickness and length do you use? I can see where they?d be great for stowing, you could use them as seats, life-preservers, a lot of things. But I worry that they will get pinched and abraded when the boat moves fore and aft against a pier where cylindrical and spherical fenders just roll. Mary Lou, Thanks, I serendipitously got a message from Elton to begin arranging for delivery. I responded asking if he provided special fenders with his delivery. I had noted the fenders you use in the West Marine catalog and they looked interesting, but I didn?t know what a good size was (looks to me like you?re using the shortest length) and whether they rolled sufficiently given their shape. I gather they work well for you. Thank you. BobW, Yours is a very interesting concept that we may just use for docking. We may keep one onboard in the event we opt to sail to and tie up at a public pier - I think it?s a great idea. But we?re one of a number of fingered slips in a pretty small area and we are required to motor in that area verrry slooowly. I expect that we will be moving so slowly as we approach our tie up that we may not have to worry about caroming off the side of a pier. At a public pier, where we might try to boldly come in under sail and dock expeditiously - thus displaying the limits of our sailing abilities and testing the limits of our liability insurance - I think your approach is good. In fact, I think I?d like to surround the hull with bubble wrap BobS, I hope we won?t wind up having to sling a 2x6 off the side and back them with cylindrical fenders. I?ll keep it in mind though. Dave From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Sat Mar 25 22:44:39 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Sat Mar 25 22:42:43 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? In-Reply-To: <260.9519ccc.315764ae@aol.com> Message-ID: <054c01c65087$9c2deba0$6401a8c0@mjm2> Do not forget the dock lines :-) would subject 4 25 footer in 3/8, they are to big/long for long term use but nice to on the boat for when you tie up or visit somewhere. -mjm > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of DCLewis1@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:30 PM > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? > > > Hank, Will, Mary Lou, BobW, BobS, everyone, > > Thank you all for responding to my fender query. Based on your input, I > think our first step is to actually visit the slip they've given us and > see what > our neighbors use. I gather there's no canonical solution. > > Will, Flat sounds great, but they're not going to roll if the boat is > moving fore and aft, they're just going to rub and abrade against the > pier/piling/whatever. Have you actually used flat fenders? Do they work > well for you? > If you do use them, what thickness and length do you use? I can see > where > they'd be great for stowing, you could use them as seats, life- > preservers, a > lot of things. But I worry that they will get pinched and abraded when > the > boat moves fore and aft against a pier where cylindrical and spherical > fenders > just roll. > > Mary Lou, Thanks, I serendipitously got a message from Elton to begin > arranging for delivery. I responded asking if he provided special fenders > with his > delivery. I had noted the fenders you use in the West Marine catalog and > they looked interesting, but I didn't know what a good size was (looks to > me > like you're using the shortest length) and whether they rolled > sufficiently > given their shape. I gather they work well for you. Thank you. > > BobW, Yours is a very interesting concept that we may just use for > docking. > We may keep one onboard in the event we opt to sail to and tie up at a > public pier - I think it's a great idea. But we're one of a number of > fingered > slips in a pretty small area and we are required to motor in that area > verrry > slooowly. I expect that we will be moving so slowly as we approach our > tie > up that we may not have to worry about caroming off the side of a pier. > At a > public pier, where we might try to boldly come in under sail and dock > expeditiously - thus displaying the limits of our sailing abilities and > testing the > limits of our liability insurance - I think your approach is good. In > fact, > I think I'd like to surround the hull with bubble wrap > > BobS, I hope we won't wind up having to sling a 2x6 off the side and > back > them with cylindrical fenders. I'll keep it in mind though. > > Dave > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From bill at effros.com Sat Mar 25 22:57:19 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Sat Mar 25 22:57:58 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? In-Reply-To: <260.9519ccc.315764ae@aol.com> References: <260.9519ccc.315764ae@aol.com> Message-ID: <4426111F.7010800@effros.com> Dave, I use fenders a lot to come into a public dock. I use the Bob Weber technique, but get off my boat with lines attached to boat cleats to come to a complete stop by wrapping the bitter ends around dockside cleats, stern first. It looks elegant when it works. I don't like to hand my lines to people on shore unless I know they know what to do next. I have used the round fenders, but have a problem with them whenever something comes up under them, and pushes them up and away from the boat. I now favor the long fenders--the more the merrier. I generally come in with 5 on one side. Taylor sells a 4-pack of oval cross-section fenders at a very reasonable price. They don't roll when under the seats, and lay flat against the boat when coming in. There is plenty of room under the cockpit seats for as many fenders as you could ever want. I have one oversize long fender which I keep tied to the handle on the cabin, along with 2 oval fenders to the rear to keep the launch from banging up the boat under the gunwale when people get to my boat before I get there. The long fender kisses the water. But my boat doesn't get scratched up by the launch any more. The fenders will absorb a lot of energy if you come into something intentionally broadside (the Weber method--Point in at an angle, then swing the stern into the object so all fenders hit at roughly the same time, and none get brushed aside.) It takes a while to experience all the different problems--having an array of energy absorbing fenders makes it easier to deal with situations you can't imagine when you're just imagining. Bill Effros DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > Hank, Will, Mary Lou, BobW, BobS, everyone, > > Thank you all for responding to my fender query. Based on your input, I > think our first step is to actually visit the slip they?ve given us and see what > our neighbors use. I gather there?s no canonical solution. > > Will, Flat sounds great, but they?re not going to roll if the boat is > moving fore and aft, they?re just going to rub and abrade against the > pier/piling/whatever. Have you actually used flat fenders? Do they work well for you? > If you do use them, what thickness and length do you use? I can see where > they?d be great for stowing, you could use them as seats, life-preservers, a > lot of things. But I worry that they will get pinched and abraded when the > boat moves fore and aft against a pier where cylindrical and spherical fenders > just roll. > > Mary Lou, Thanks, I serendipitously got a message from Elton to begin > arranging for delivery. I responded asking if he provided special fenders with his > delivery. I had noted the fenders you use in the West Marine catalog and > they looked interesting, but I didn?t know what a good size was (looks to me > like you?re using the shortest length) and whether they rolled sufficiently > given their shape. I gather they work well for you. Thank you. > > BobW, Yours is a very interesting concept that we may just use for docking. > We may keep one onboard in the event we opt to sail to and tie up at a > public pier - I think it?s a great idea. But we?re one of a number of fingered > slips in a pretty small area and we are required to motor in that area verrry > slooowly. I expect that we will be moving so slowly as we approach our tie > up that we may not have to worry about caroming off the side of a pier. At a > public pier, where we might try to boldly come in under sail and dock > expeditiously - thus displaying the limits of our sailing abilities and testing the > limits of our liability insurance - I think your approach is good. In fact, > I think I?d like to surround the hull with bubble wrap > > BobS, I hope we won?t wind up having to sling a 2x6 off the side and back > them with cylindrical fenders. I?ll keep it in mind though. > > Dave > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From bill at effros.com Sat Mar 25 23:10:08 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Sat Mar 25 23:10:44 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? In-Reply-To: <054c01c65087$9c2deba0$6401a8c0@mjm2> References: <054c01c65087$9c2deba0$6401a8c0@mjm2> Message-ID: <44261420.6050502@effros.com> I use 2 15 footers and 2 25s color coded (the 15s are black, the 25s are red) stored in the cubbys. I put a 25 on the bow cleat, and a 15 on the stern cleat, both led back to the cockpit with all lines led outside all rails and stays. Then I step off the boat when the stern hits the dock (I never jump, I always step) and wrap the black line on the rear cleat, go forward and pull in the bow around the forward cleat, and lock the bow in position. Then I return to the stern cleat, pull in the stern -- not too tight -- and lock in the stern. The motor is not turned off until the boat is fully under control at the dock, although it has been idling in neutral from a distance of several boat lengths from the dock. I use the rudder to slow down the boat on the way into the dock, so that I am usually moving at little more than rudder stall speed by the time the fenders kiss the dock, and I get off--when things go right. You will encounter wind, wake, current, and dumb sailors who will complicate this maneuver. The lines prove useful in a thousand ways. Bill Effros Michel Meltzer wrote: > Do not forget the dock lines :-) would subject 4 25 footer in 3/8, they > are to big/long for long term use but nice to on the boat for when you > tie up or visit somewhere. -mjm > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- >> bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of DCLewis1@aol.com >> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:30 PM >> To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? >> >> >> Hank, Will, Mary Lou, BobW, BobS, everyone, >> >> Thank you all for responding to my fender query. Based on your input, >> > I > >> think our first step is to actually visit the slip they've given us >> > and > >> see what >> our neighbors use. I gather there's no canonical solution. >> >> Will, Flat sounds great, but they're not going to roll if the boat is >> moving fore and aft, they're just going to rub and abrade against the >> pier/piling/whatever. Have you actually used flat fenders? Do they >> > work > >> well for you? >> If you do use them, what thickness and length do you use? I can see >> where >> they'd be great for stowing, you could use them as seats, life- >> preservers, a >> lot of things. But I worry that they will get pinched and abraded >> > when > >> the >> boat moves fore and aft against a pier where cylindrical and >> > spherical > >> fenders >> just roll. >> >> Mary Lou, Thanks, I serendipitously got a message from Elton to begin >> arranging for delivery. I responded asking if he provided special >> > fenders > >> with his >> delivery. I had noted the fenders you use in the West Marine catalog >> > and > >> they looked interesting, but I didn't know what a good size was >> > (looks to > >> me >> like you're using the shortest length) and whether they rolled >> sufficiently >> given their shape. I gather they work well for you. Thank you. >> >> BobW, Yours is a very interesting concept that we may just use for >> docking. >> We may keep one onboard in the event we opt to sail to and tie up at >> > a > >> public pier - I think it's a great idea. But we're one of a number of >> fingered >> slips in a pretty small area and we are required to motor in that >> > area > >> verrry >> slooowly. I expect that we will be moving so slowly as we approach >> > our > >> tie >> up that we may not have to worry about caroming off the side of a >> > pier. > >> At a >> public pier, where we might try to boldly come in under sail and dock >> expeditiously - thus displaying the limits of our sailing abilities >> > and > >> testing the >> limits of our liability insurance - I think your approach is good. >> > In > >> fact, >> I think I'd like to surround the hull with bubble wrap >> >> BobS, I hope we won't wind up having to sling a 2x6 off the side and >> back >> them with cylindrical fenders. I'll keep it in mind though. >> >> Dave >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From DCLewis1 at aol.com Sat Mar 25 23:31:31 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 25 23:31:39 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Message-ID: <325.9aff29.31577323@aol.com> Michael, Good info, thanks. Dave From DCLewis1 at aol.com Sat Mar 25 23:45:11 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Sat Mar 25 23:45:20 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Message-ID: <335.cba24b.31577657@aol.com> Bill and Michael, Thanks, good info. I think we will try the same approach to outfitting for lines. Do you use nylon or poly? Splice, tape, or fuse the ends? Re the Taylor fender pack. I'm not sure whether it was their 3 or 4 pack, but I read a West Marine review and the purchaser reported they were junk - blistered, etc. He couldn't spot the defects before purchasing because of the packaging. Perhaps that user's experience was not representative, but it made me think I shouldn't buy a fender I couldn't examine first. Thanks, Dave From thescubatank at cox.net Sun Mar 26 07:31:09 2006 From: thescubatank at cox.net (thescubatank@cox.net) Date: Sun Mar 26 07:31:56 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The Rebirth of Ad Astra Message-ID: <20060326123147.TMWJ19943.eastrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> Good morning all, I am currently reburbishing the interior of Ad Astra. I started this projest because I first noted that the Wood underneath the mast support post was being crushed and that fresh water in the bilge had the stringers and part of the floor water logged. Fresh water is improntant here because Ad Astra is moored in saltwater, so yes I have leaks, which I have discovered is partially because I brought her up from Florida and the cold weather has provided the necessary element to shrink the sealant around some through bolted hardware. I also noted that the stringers and flooring was made of 3/4" particle board. This material does an outstanding job of water adsorption. Anyway, as the project moves forward I noted that at the aft end of the centerboard cap where it meets the hull the fibreglass form the cap is lifted off the floor and there seems to be a small pocket going down into the centerboard well. This pocket seems to trap water from the bildge. My intention is to trim back the fibreglass that has lifted, clean the area and reglass it. Has anybody else had experince with this problem. Looking for input, suggestions, and a reality check. Steve S/V Ad Astra Chesapeake, VA From ekroposki at charter.net Sun Mar 26 05:37:42 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sun Mar 26 08:37:48 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] he Rebirth of Ad Astra In-Reply-To: <20060326123147.TMWJ19943.eastrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> References: <20060326123147.TMWJ19943.eastrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> Message-ID: <3596307.post@talk.nabble.com> Steve: You are at the right place to ask the questions that you asked. There are several others who have rebuilt or are rebuilding boats. Now every time I make the following recommendation either Art or somebody jumps on my comment, but I said it before and say it again. The archives are a great source of technical how to do it information. Some of the people involved with the answers are no longer on the list but the answers they gave were most helpful. So see Herb's recent reple to my how to do it question, it works: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes22-f14229.html And speaking of Herb, he is an experienced and knowledgeable boat rebuilder. Then there is our current champion Lou. Others who can offer good insight are Todd and Peter. On any given question there are many others with experience and knowledge that they are happy to share. If you do not already have a ditital camera, before you start go out and get one. A good cheap one that you can download pictures with cost less than $100. A picture of your problem will yield more accurate comentary. Stan never used particle board, so you boat has been rebuilt in the past. As to a good sealant, and there are many, I recommend Boat Life, see: http://www.boatlife.com/ As to boat repair and rebuilding, the oracle on the subject is: http://www.epoxyworks.com/ which offers a free magazine that comes out about once a year showing projects done. It is most informative. Good luck and fair breezes. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/The-Rebirth-of-Ad-Astra-t1344357.html#a3596307 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From bill at effros.com Sun Mar 26 09:26:57 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Sun Mar 26 09:27:32 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? In-Reply-To: <335.cba24b.31577657@aol.com> References: <335.cba24b.31577657@aol.com> Message-ID: <4426A4B1.2090309@effros.com> Dave, The West Marine review must have been written by a competitor. The 4 packs I bought were in a mesh bag. You can take them out and look at them. You can always return to West Marine if you don't like what you find inside any package. They won't stock products that aren't as advertised. Mine had no blisters, no defects, and I never bothered to look at them in the store. But they didn't stay pristine for long. Fenders get beat up as soon as you start to use them. They are nothing more than thick walled plastic balloons. (I don't like the flat ones because they don't have enough "give".) The whole point is that they take the shots instead of the sides of your boat. I like the cheap ones because it is easy to replace them once they get too beat up--they don't cost more per square foot than the boat. Bill Effros DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > Bill and Michael, > > Thanks, good info. I think we will try the same approach to outfitting for > lines. Do you use nylon or poly? Splice, tape, or fuse the ends? > > Re the Taylor fender pack. I'm not sure whether it was their 3 or 4 pack, > but I read a West Marine review and the purchaser reported they were junk - > blistered, etc. He couldn't spot the defects before purchasing because of the > packaging. Perhaps that user's experience was not representative, but it > made me think I shouldn't buy a fender I couldn't examine first. > > Thanks, > Dave > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From thescubatank at cox.net Sun Mar 26 09:38:22 2006 From: thescubatank at cox.net (thescubatank@cox.net) Date: Sun Mar 26 09:39:09 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] he Rebirth of Ad Astra Message-ID: <20060326143900.QMBV3108.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> > Ed Thanks for the nable I wiil keep it close. I have been to the archives and forund the info about the stringers and such. An for the most part I hve foung where most leaks are coming from. A have a little boat building/rebuliding experience. While statinoned on Guam in the 80's I worked with a company that built 40 to 55" power cats. Mostly doing there wiring diagrams and wiring for Coast Guard certs, but I picked up quite a bit of Info on the fiberglass side also. Thanks for the input. Steve S/V Adastra Chesapeake, VA > From: Tootle > Date: 2006/03/26 Sun AM 08:37:42 EST > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] he Rebirth of Ad Astra > > > Steve: > You are at the right place to ask the questions that you asked. There > are several others who have rebuilt or are rebuilding boats. Now every time > I make the following recommendation either Art or somebody jumps on my > comment, but I said it before and say it again. The archives are a great > source of technical how to do it information. Some of the people involved > with the answers are no longer on the list but the answers they gave were > most helpful. So see Herb's recent reple to my how to do it question, it > works: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes22-f14229.html > And speaking of Herb, he is an experienced and knowledgeable boat rebuilder. > Then there is our current champion Lou. Others who can offer good insight > are Todd and Peter. On any given question there are many others with > experience and knowledge that they are happy to share. > If you do not already have a ditital camera, before you start go out > and get one. A good cheap one that you can download pictures with cost less > than $100. A picture of your problem will yield more accurate comentary. > Stan never used particle board, so you boat has been rebuilt in the > past. As to a good sealant, and there are many, I recommend Boat Life, see: > http://www.boatlife.com/ > As to boat repair and rebuilding, the oracle on the subject is: > http://www.epoxyworks.com/ which offers a free magazine that comes out about > once a year showing projects done. It is most informative. > Good luck and fair breezes. > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/The-Rebirth-of-Ad-Astra-t1344357.html#a3596307 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sun Mar 26 09:47:27 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 26 09:47:32 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The Rebirth of Ad Astra Message-ID: <2b1.775f83.3158037f@aol.com> Steve, The floor boards and stringers in your boat are not stock/standard GBI construction. Somewhere along the line someone has done a very poor job of rebuilding that part of your boat. Particle board is way to flimsy to use as a stringer, even when it is glued together to the correct thickness. My floor boards are marine grade plywood and have withstood some real abuse over the years. There are others on the list that have replaced the same parts and are more knowledgeable than I am. Hopefully they will see you post and tell you what you need to know. Rummy From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Sun Mar 26 10:21:45 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Sun Mar 26 10:19:48 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchors Message-ID: <056a01c650e8$fe8c7350$6401a8c0@mjm2> Looks like PS just came out with another anchor ranking :-) From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Sun Mar 26 10:30:04 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Sun Mar 26 10:27:59 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? In-Reply-To: <335.cba24b.31577657@aol.com> Message-ID: <056b01c650ea$27b6f970$6401a8c0@mjm2> Nylon double braid with a loop spliced on the end, i.e. the prepacked ones 3/8 (all you need) or 1/2 if in stock for the 25 footers , once you figure out the sizes to need for the one you going to leave on the dock I would use 1/2 > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- > bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of DCLewis1@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:45 PM > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? > > > Bill and Michael, > > Thanks, good info. I think we will try the same approach to outfitting > for > lines. Do you use nylon or poly? Splice, tape, or fuse the ends? > > Re the Taylor fender pack. I'm not sure whether it was their 3 or 4 > pack, > but I read a West Marine review and the purchaser reported they were junk > - > blistered, etc. He couldn't spot the defects before purchasing because > of the > packaging. Perhaps that user's experience was not representative, but it > made me think I shouldn't buy a fender I couldn't examine first. > > Thanks, > Dave > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Sun Mar 26 10:47:45 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Sun Mar 26 10:45:40 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] It spring Message-ID: <057301c650ec$a055a870$6401a8c0@mjm2> Well guys and girls, My new prop is here, I picking up the boats and the docks open next week, it a new session. -mjm From DCLewis1 at aol.com Sun Mar 26 11:45:39 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 26 11:45:50 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Message-ID: <25e.9564337.31581f33@aol.com> Michael, Great, thanks. Dave From rlipton at earthlink.net Sun Mar 26 11:07:17 2006 From: rlipton at earthlink.net (Ronald Lipton) Date: Sun Mar 26 12:02:41 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Political (sort of)/joke - Kinky Friedman for Governor of Texas ad In-Reply-To: <4426111F.7010800@effros.com> References: <260.9519ccc.315764ae@aol.com> <4426111F.7010800@effros.com> Message-ID: <8ebb60a410e2aa2475f5c12a0931ba33@earthlink.net> Ok not in the least sailing related, but pretty funny: http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/multimedia/_video/afcommercial/ Up to the mid 50s this week. To begin spring boat work. Ron From bill at effros.com Sun Mar 26 12:47:14 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Sun Mar 26 12:47:49 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anchors In-Reply-To: <056a01c650e8$fe8c7350$6401a8c0@mjm2> References: <056a01c650e8$fe8c7350$6401a8c0@mjm2> Message-ID: <4426D3A2.4060703@effros.com> Oh, man..... (New York idiom, not sure how far it travels...) Here we go again... IMHO, Practical Sailor doesn't know what it's talking about in many cases. Anchoring is one. These anchoring tests don't tell anyone what they need to know. The Spade Anchor tested poorly at a 3:1 scope in the current test, and costs almost $500. Now they are saying they are not sure any anchor is worth $500, and they are surprised it did poorly in this test, when it was one of the top performers previously. When I drop an anchor I want to know how well it will hold when I am dropping it, not when PS tested it. If their tests don't come out the same way every time, then the test is not useful. Spade Anchors, in all sizes, cost proportionally more than the more commonly used anchors. I really don't need Practical Sailor to tell me that Spade anchors are more expensive. My beef with Practical Sailor is that their testing procedures are Mickey Mouse. They recommend one product one year, and then tell you the same product doesn't work well the following year. This pattern is repeated in product category after product category. Bill Effros Michel Meltzer wrote: > Looks like PS just came out with another anchor ranking :-) > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From DCLewis1 at aol.com Sun Mar 26 13:18:40 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 26 13:18:51 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Message-ID: <291.80cf938.31583500@aol.com> Bill, I was at West Marine yesterday, cleaning out my bank account, and noted a bunch of 4 packs of large cylindrical Taylor fenders on display. Each 4 pack was packaged in shrink wrap poly with info/disclaimers/decorations all over the poly so that I couldn't examine the fenders in the package. At the time I concluded the reviewer might have been on to something, I couldn't examine the fenders except for their ends. But maybe not; your post suggests his experience with poor quality fenders may have been a one time thing. There were also bins of fenders in the back where you could pick and choose colors, styles, sized, etc. Bottom line, I was leary of getting the 4 pack special given that I couldn't examine the fenders and the poor review posted by someone who had bought a pack of Taylor fenders. Your experience may be more representative, thanks for sharing it. For the near term, I'm waiting for a response from Elton and I plan to visit the slip and see what others use and what the fendering problem/environment is, and then it's back to West Marine - or some other source to get what we need. Thanks again for your input, it's been very helpful. Dave. From thescubatank at cox.net Sun Mar 26 14:12:14 2006 From: thescubatank at cox.net (thescubatank@cox.net) Date: Sun Mar 26 14:13:03 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The Rebirth of Ad Astra Message-ID: <20060326191254.UZAF3108.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@[172.18.52.8]> I didn't think that they were stock either. I figure that who ever redid the floor didn't have a clue. But then again that was also evident by the rats nest they called a wiring job that I am also redoing. Thanks for the input. Steve > > From: R22RumRunner@aol.com > Date: 2006/03/26 Sun AM 09:47:27 EST > To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] The Rebirth of Ad Astra > > Steve, > The floor boards and stringers in your boat are not stock/standard GBI > construction. Somewhere along the line someone has done a very poor job of > rebuilding that part of your boat. Particle board is way to flimsy to use as a > stringer, even when it is glued together to the correct thickness. My floor boards > are marine grade plywood and have withstood some real abuse over the years. > There are others on the list that have replaced the same parts and are more > knowledgeable than I am. Hopefully they will see you post and tell you what > you need to know. > > Rummy > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From bill at effros.com Sun Mar 26 14:44:06 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Sun Mar 26 14:44:41 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? In-Reply-To: <291.80cf938.31583500@aol.com> References: <291.80cf938.31583500@aol.com> Message-ID: <4426EF06.1010707@effros.com> Dave, If you decide you want the West Marine Taylor fenders, take them up to the counter and ask them to open them for you. Tell them you will buy them if they are unblemished, but that you won't buy them if what you see is not what you get. Alternatively, buy them, open them up in the store, and return them immediately, if they are less than totally satisfactory. West Marine is the high-priced spread, but they earn the extra money you have to pay. Bill Effros DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > Bill, > > I was at West Marine yesterday, cleaning out my bank account, and noted a > bunch of 4 packs of large cylindrical Taylor fenders on display. Each 4 pack > was packaged in shrink wrap poly with info/disclaimers/decorations all over > the poly so that I couldn't examine the fenders in the package. At the time I > concluded the reviewer might have been on to something, I couldn't examine > the fenders except for their ends. But maybe not; your post suggests his > experience with poor quality fenders may have been a one time thing. There were > also bins of fenders in the back where you could pick and choose colors, > styles, sized, etc. Bottom line, I was leary of getting the 4 pack special > given that I couldn't examine the fenders and the poor review posted by someone > who had bought a pack of Taylor fenders. Your experience may be more > representative, thanks for sharing it. > > For the near term, I'm waiting for a response from Elton and I plan to visit > the slip and see what others use and what the fendering problem/environment > is, and then it's back to West Marine - or some other source to get what we > need. > > Thanks again for your input, it's been very helpful. > > Dave. > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From ekroposki at charter.net Sun Mar 26 11:54:05 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sun Mar 26 14:54:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call In-Reply-To: <291.80cf938.31583500@aol.com> References: <27c.7f0f4d1.31549c1c@aol.com> <442498CD.4216074E@squirrelhaven.com> <260.9519ccc.315764ae@aol.com> <054c01c65087$9c2deba0$6401a8c0@mjm2> <44261420.6050502@effros.com> <325.9aff29.31577323@aol.com> <335.cba24b.31577657@aol.com> <056b01c650ea$27b6f970$6401a8c0@mjm2> <25e.9564337.31581f33@aol.com> <291.80cf938.31583500@aol.com> Message-ID: <3599691.post@talk.nabble.com> Dave, When you visited Edenton, did Stan show you the room with all the "stuff"? The room with the life preservers some from when he was a boy, the fenders, the lines, generally all sorts of stuff that came with the boats he picked up for recycle? If you are going to get the boat, pick out some used fenders and offer Stan a few dollars to get started. If Elton is delivering, have him pick out half a dozed is assorted sizes and shapes in pairs and tell him you want them cheap to do your own testing to see what you really need. All this fuss over fenders. I am not sure that I have any two that are exactly alike. As Bill E said they wear out and you have to put them in the big green box. What they have today is probably not what they have in two years. I guarentee that if you use your boat, fenders or no fenders, you will put some dings in it. Or if you do not, somebody else will. If you are going to Edenton to get the boat, make sure that Stan or Elton take you on a shake down sail. Get them to put the boat thru a good test with you at the helm. Elton says Stan is the better sailor, but either one is better than any body else you will ever get a chance to sail with. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fenders--t1333921.html#a3599691 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From tfl4625 at blackfoot.net Sun Mar 26 14:30:47 2006 From: tfl4625 at blackfoot.net (Bob Fletcher) Date: Sun Mar 26 16:31:22 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Montana Bob, some generic information References: <006701c64d5f$11e6d450$4200a8c0@fletcher><000b01c64eed$db6ff100$6501a8c0@j7g1u2><016e01c64f0e$0f36e4b0$4200a8c0@fletcher> <3571177.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <000b01c6511c$8dca0900$4200a8c0@fletcher> Ed, Thanks for all the references. I look forward to playing with the archives. Bob Fletcher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tootle" To: Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:36 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Montana Bob, some generic information > > Bob, > May I encourage you to explore the following web sites in detail: > 1. Commodore Stanley Spitzers official web site: http://rhodes22.com > 2. This site, http://rhodes22.org and follow all the hot keys to all > the detail information. This is not only an email hosting site, but > importantly, a picture and document archival site. There is more > information contained therein than you could imagine. > 3. If you want to follow the emails back by thread, topic, author, > you can also use this site: > http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes22-f14229.html > 4. You may have noticed Captain to be Collins requesting Mary Lou to > repost some information that she posted in the past. If by chance you > want > to find a recent post or a post on a specific topic then you can research > the archives. There are seach tools available to those interested enough > to do some work. > 5. Keep in mind you can always view this list directly on the WEB. > Just go to: > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/ For some this is much > faster than downing emails intermittantly during the day when they would > fill the mail box. In order to reply to the list after viewing on the WEB > go to the nabble site cited above and find email you want to reply to and > hit reply. This method allows you to reply directly to that email and > offers the receiver the opportunity to check the previous email to see > what > you are replying to. This system was set up by your host the illustrious > computer wizard, Michael Meltzer of NYC. > 6. Now to your question of new versus recycle versus used versus > project boat. Project boats are a special challange for special people. > They require a lot of time and work. Used boats in good condition > occassionally come on the market. If they are priced fairly, they only > are > on the market a day or two. If they are priced what the seller thinks > they > are worth, it takes longer. In both cases they do not offer any > guarentee. > Stan offers new boats custom made to your spec's. These are > usually take at least six months to a year to build. He offers recycled > hulls subject to availablity. A recycled can cost more than a new boat if > it was made with all the bells, electronics and gadgets. However, > delivery > can be quicker than new. > 7. When viewing this list, keep in mind that the subject line does > not always reflect the subject. In fact, some subject lines are 100% > wrong. Also, someone in the recent past told how to use Google to search > the archives. Unfortunately, I did not save that post. > 8. Again, feel free to post your questions to the list. > > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3571177 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From dwbrad at gmail.com Sun Mar 26 13:37:59 2006 From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley) Date: Sun Mar 26 16:38:01 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call In-Reply-To: <3599691.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <27c.7f0f4d1.31549c1c@aol.com> <260.9519ccc.315764ae@aol.com> <054c01c65087$9c2deba0$6401a8c0@mjm2> <44261420.6050502@effros.com> <325.9aff29.31577323@aol.com> <335.cba24b.31577657@aol.com> <056b01c650ea$27b6f970$6401a8c0@mjm2> <25e.9564337.31581f33@aol.com> <291.80cf938.31583500@aol.com> <3599691.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <5c154df70603261337x49d265abx777c181dc7831b6@mail.gmail.com> Ed, assuming you are asking this Dave... nope, I didn't get a chance to go in the back building but if I do go down I'll check it out. I have four new fenders waiting for a boat, but maybe there's something else I need. My hope is to go to Edenton to take delivery and go for a shake-down sail with Stan, as you say. If I can't find a weekend that will work before late April I'll see if Elton can haul her north to CT and take her for a sail with me in LIS. Either way, I agree wholeheartedly with the need for a shake-down cruise and some helpful hints at the helm. I didn't anticipate all these distractions of new jobs and real estate stuff getting in the way of taking delivery in March. Damn, gotta get my priorities straight. Dave B. On 3/26/06, Tootle wrote: > > > Dave, > When you visited Edenton, did Stan show you the room with all the > "stuff"? The room with the life preservers some from when he was a boy, > the > fenders, the lines, generally all sorts of stuff that came with the boats > he > picked up for recycle? > If you are going to get the boat, pick out some used fenders and > offer > Stan a few dollars to get started. If Elton is delivering, have him pick > out half a dozed is assorted sizes and shapes in pairs and tell him you > want them cheap to do your own testing to see what you really need. > All this fuss over fenders. I am not sure that I have any two that > are exactly alike. As Bill E said they wear out and you have to put them > in > the big green box. What they have today is probably not what they have in > two years. > I guarentee that if you use your boat, fenders or no fenders, you > will > put some dings in it. Or if you do not, somebody else will. > If you are going to Edenton to get the boat, make sure that Stan or > Elton take you on a shake down sail. Get them to put the boat thru a good > test with you at the helm. Elton says Stan is the better sailor, but > either > one is better than any body else you will ever get a chance to sail with. > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Fenders--t1333921.html#a3599691 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From R22RumRunner at aol.com Sun Mar 26 17:32:56 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 26 17:33:06 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call Message-ID: <2c0.791d92b.31587098@aol.com> Dave B., Don't pay any attention to anything Ed has to say. Just forget about the test sail with either of the two elder Spitzer boys. Just grab a full bottle of Mt.Gay rum, a cooler full of ice and some diet cokes and go for a sail. After a couple of good stiff drinks you'll learn everything you need to know about sailing in a very short time. This is absolutely the best way to learn how to sail and a lot more fun than sailing with two cranky old men. If you ever get a chance to sail with Ed, DON'T. Rummy From DCLewis1 at aol.com Sun Mar 26 17:38:40 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 26 17:38:57 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call Message-ID: <2ba.763be34.315871f0@aol.com> Ed, Good point, I hadn't thought of asking Stan; whatever he's got might be a good start. We did see a bunch of stuff in his boat barn, and then we saw a large pile of stuff in the building in back, but we were looking at cushions at the time not fenders. You're right, he may have some fenders. Thanks. Elton will be delivering the boat to the marina, or really a ramp adjacent to our marina. I'm looking forward to meeting him. He's also "commissioning" it and I'm trying to find out what that means - it's not that I doubt that commissioning is useful and necessary, I just don't know what it means. As for as dings in the boat - I'm thinking of keel to mast bubble wrap as a good start at the slip. It's going to be hard to sail with all that bubble warp however, so we may have to take some chances. Dave From budconnor at earthlink.net Sun Mar 26 17:53:23 2006 From: budconnor at earthlink.net (Bud) Date: Sun Mar 26 17:52:07 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? In-Reply-To: <4426EF06.1010707@effros.com> References: <291.80cf938.31583500@aol.com> <4426EF06.1010707@effros.com> Message-ID: <44271B63.10001@earthlink.net> Dave, West Marine will match on-line and other store prices. Also, they give you a discount if you bought a boat in the last 30 days. So, you may want to find the Taylor fenders on-line, then get the price matched at West Marine. -Bud Bill Effros wrote: > Dave, > > If you decide you want the West Marine Taylor fenders, take them up to > the counter and ask them to open them for you. Tell them you will buy > them if they are unblemished, but that you won't buy them if what you > see is not what you get. > > Alternatively, buy them, open them up in the store, and return them > immediately, if they are less than totally satisfactory. > > West Marine is the high-priced spread, but they earn the extra money > you have to pay. > > Bill Effros > > DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > >> Bill, >> >> I was at West Marine yesterday, cleaning out my bank account, and >> noted a bunch of 4 packs of large cylindrical Taylor fenders on >> display. Each 4 pack was packaged in shrink wrap poly with >> info/disclaimers/decorations all over the poly so that I couldn't >> examine the fenders in the package. At the time I concluded the >> reviewer might have been on to something, I couldn't examine the >> fenders except for their ends. But maybe not; your post suggests >> his experience with poor quality fenders may have been a one time >> thing. There were also bins of fenders in the back where you could >> pick and choose colors, styles, sized, etc. Bottom line, I was >> leary of getting the 4 pack special given that I couldn't examine >> the fenders and the poor review posted by someone who had bought a >> pack of Taylor fenders. Your experience may be more representative, >> thanks for sharing it. >> >> For the near term, I'm waiting for a response from Elton and I plan >> to visit the slip and see what others use and what the fendering >> problem/environment is, and then it's back to West Marine - or some >> other source to get what we need. >> Thanks again for your input, it's been very helpful. >> >> Dave. >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From DCLewis1 at aol.com Sun Mar 26 18:50:06 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 26 18:50:24 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Message-ID: <2cd.6103794.315882ae@aol.com> Bud, Thanks but it's kind of a pain. The West Marine clerk told me about their 30 day policy for new boat owners, but I'll need fender's almost immediately once the boat is in the water. I won't have time to go shopping, unless Stan can give me some used fenders to start as per Ed's suggestion. I'll probably take advantage of their 30 day 10% off policy in terms of other outfitting needs. FWIW, I did find Mary Lou's fenders, dock lines, etc, on line at Dick's Sporting goods - each item was 10 to 20% cheaper than West Marine's price. Unless we're trying to keep West Marine in business, I'm inclined to reward the guy who offers me the best product with the best price with my business. I think this "matching" business is sort of a cop out in terms of competitive market processes. I think there is a place and a need for West Marine, but I also think they are doing very well. Dave From rjquinn at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 26 18:56:48 2006 From: rjquinn at bellsouth.net (Robert Quinn) Date: Sun Mar 26 18:57:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? References: <2cd.6103794.315882ae@aol.com> Message-ID: <002101c65130$f2cb07f0$6101a8c0@gatewaysystem> Give Elton a call to be sure he does not have some aboard the boat. Bob on the "NoKaOi" ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? > > Bud, > > Thanks but it's kind of a pain. The West Marine clerk told me about > their > 30 day policy for new boat owners, but I'll need fender's almost > immediately > once the boat is in the water. I won't have time to go shopping, unless > Stan > can give me some used fenders to start as per Ed's suggestion. I'll > probably > take advantage of their 30 day 10% off policy in terms of other > outfitting > needs. > > FWIW, I did find Mary Lou's fenders, dock lines, etc, on line at Dick's > Sporting goods - each item was 10 to 20% cheaper than West Marine's > price. > Unless we're trying to keep West Marine in business, I'm inclined to > reward the > guy who offers me the best product with the best price with my business. > I > think this "matching" business is sort of a cop out in terms of > competitive > market processes. > > I think there is a place and a need for West Marine, but I also think they > are doing very well. > > Dave > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From sprocket80 at mail.com Sun Mar 26 19:28:19 2006 From: sprocket80 at mail.com (Todd Tavares) Date: Sun Mar 26 19:24:23 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] PB---was Bunk Message-ID: <20060327002819.5658684024@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Peter, My renovation is going slowly--any slower and it would be in reverse. I have too many house projects and not enough time........not to mention that I spent most of the past few months in a cast with a shattered fibula. I guess I should find a desk job :-D. I have one boat, but two trailers, an extra mast, boom, furler, rudder, and centerboard. If I can't get some of these other projects knocked out soon, you may see my boat on e-bay too. Todd T. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Thorn" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:36:07 -0500 Todd, That's right: two boats, two trailers. Now I choose between sailing or pb work. That's why pb progress is slow. How's the renovation coming? PT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Tavares" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk Peter, I have a question.....but must first say that I have a terrible memory. IIRC, you bought Mark's boat Raven right? ...and you also bought a new trailer from Stan. Did you buy Mark's trailer too? Todd T. -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ From ekroposki at charter.net Sun Mar 26 17:55:11 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sun Mar 26 20:55:16 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd T. ??? In-Reply-To: <20060327002819.5658684024@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060327002819.5658684024@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <3602792.post@talk.nabble.com> Todd, Explain broken leg. Did Centerboard or Rudder fall on it. I thought it was elbow surgery? Ed K Greenville, SC, USA ~~~~_/) ~~~~ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/PB---was-Bunk-t1346529.html#a3602792 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From czerwonky at earthlink.net Sun Mar 26 20:56:38 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Sun Mar 26 20:56:43 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call Message-ID: <26479305.1143424598452.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Dave, I try to imagine your pulling the boat cross country, and really wonder if there is any alternative. That will be a buster. Stan and Elton might be able to use some type of shield for the hull for such a long trip - rocks, tar, all sorts of mischief could foul the bottom before you really get underway after the pull. There ought to be some way to protect your big investment. They might be able to raise it on a sling, drape the trailer with some cloth or plastic/mylar, and lower it back down. I might be able to find some plastic here and carry it to Stan when I take the new BR over. I'd hate to get the gel dinged that way. Let me know what you think. Art -----Original Message----- >From: David Bradley >Sent: Mar 26, 2006 4:37 PM >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call > >Ed, assuming you are asking this Dave... nope, I didn't get a chance to go >in the back building but if I do go down I'll check it out. I have four new >fenders waiting for a boat, but maybe there's something else I need. > >My hope is to go to Edenton to take delivery and go for a shake-down sail >with Stan, as you say. If I can't find a weekend that will work before late >April I'll see if Elton can haul her north to CT and take her for a sail >with me in LIS. Either way, I agree wholeheartedly with the need for a >shake-down cruise and some helpful hints at the helm. > >I didn't anticipate all these distractions of new jobs and real estate stuff >getting in the way of taking delivery in March. Damn, gotta get my >priorities straight. > >Dave B. > > >On 3/26/06, Tootle wrote: >> >> >> Dave, >> When you visited Edenton, did Stan show you the room with all the >> "stuff"? The room with the life preservers some from when he was a boy, >> the >> fenders, the lines, generally all sorts of stuff that came with the boats >> he >> picked up for recycle? >> If you are going to get the boat, pick out some used fenders and >> offer >> Stan a few dollars to get started. If Elton is delivering, have him pick >> out half a dozed is assorted sizes and shapes in pairs and tell him you >> want them cheap to do your own testing to see what you really need. >> All this fuss over fenders. I am not sure that I have any two that >> are exactly alike. As Bill E said they wear out and you have to put them >> in >> the big green box. What they have today is probably not what they have in >> two years. >> I guarentee that if you use your boat, fenders or no fenders, you >> will >> put some dings in it. Or if you do not, somebody else will. >> If you are going to Edenton to get the boat, make sure that Stan or >> Elton take you on a shake down sail. Get them to put the boat thru a good >> test with you at the helm. Elton says Stan is the better sailor, but >> either >> one is better than any body else you will ever get a chance to sail with. >> >> Ed K >> Greenville, SC, USA >> ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Fenders--t1333921.html#a3599691 >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From czerwonky at earthlink.net Sun Mar 26 21:04:05 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Sun Mar 26 21:04:06 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Message-ID: <8656042.1143425045178.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Bob, Good idea on the 12" ball. They should fit like a charm under the cockpit seats, right. Did you say what color you have used? Art -----Original Message----- >From: Bob Weber >Sent: Mar 24, 2006 10:06 AM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? > >Dave, I use the 12" Ball type fenders. I think they are better than the >Gunkhole type since they will Roll along the dock. When docking i teach my >students to come in the slip at an angle, the fenders make contact and roll >along the dock until I can secure the stearn line that keeps me from going >too far forward. There a some purist out there cringing but It works for >people with almost no tiller time. I also use the fenders as buoys during >the class to practice man overboard, etc. > >Bob Weber > >S/V Ruba > > >>From: DCLewis1@aol.com >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >>To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? >>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:49:32 EST >> >> >> >>Folks, >> >>We???re getting ready to actually get our boat, it should happen in about 2 >>weeks. It???s going to be tied up at a slip at Harrington Harbour Marina >>in >>Deale Md with a couple of hundred other boats. >> >>Any advice as to how many of what kind of fenders will work in a typical >>berthing arrangement? Dimensions? Round/Flat? >> >>I checked the achieves and gather Elton had some type of neat fender that >>slung over the gunnel, but that was a while ago. I???ve looked through the >> West >>Marine stuff and there are Taylor low freeboard fenders and fence saver >>fenders that might similar to posters were referring to (i.e. appear to >>sling over >>the gunnel), but I don???t know. There are flat fenders and conforming >>flat >>fenders. And then there are the good old round cylinders. And all of the >>above in a variety of lengths and thicknesses. >> >>What works? >> >>Dave >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Sun Mar 26 18:05:55 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sun Mar 26 21:05:58 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Not Free, need to pay for Elton's Gas In-Reply-To: <002101c65130$f2cb07f0$6101a8c0@gatewaysystem> References: <27c.7f0f4d1.31549c1c@aol.com> <442498CD.4216074E@squirrelhaven.com> <260.9519ccc.315764ae@aol.com> <054c01c65087$9c2deba0$6401a8c0@mjm2> <44261420.6050502@effros.com> <325.9aff29.31577323@aol.com> <335.cba24b.31577657@aol.com> <056b01c650ea$27b6f970$6401a8c0@mjm2> <25e.9564337.31581f33@aol.com> <291.80cf938.31583500@aol.com> <4426EF06.1010707@effros.com> <44271B63.10001@earthlink.net> <2cd.6103794.315882ae@aol.com> <002101c65130$f2cb07f0$6101a8c0@gatewaysystem> Message-ID: <3602850.post@talk.nabble.com> Dave said , "I won't have time to go shopping, unless Stan can give me some used fenders to start as per Ed's suggestion. Dave, I did not say Stan was to give you some used fenders. I suggested that you ask for some cheap deal on used fenders. Do not tell Stan that I said lean on him for some used stuff. Maybe you might try calling Rose and see if she can arrange for Elton to have a few on board for emergency use? Bob's suggestion is the way to go. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA ~~~~_/)~~~~ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fenders--t1333921.html#a3602850 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From czerwonky at earthlink.net Sun Mar 26 21:17:51 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Sun Mar 26 21:17:54 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Not Free, need to pay for Elton's Gas Message-ID: <2494816.1143425871670.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ed, I read your suggestion the same way Dave did. I think you also once suggested that Stan has Super Bowl tickets available for his best customers... Art -----Original Message----- >From: Tootle >Sent: Mar 26, 2006 9:05 PM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Not Free, need to pay for Elton's Gas > > >Dave said , "I won't have time to go shopping, unless Stan >can give me some used fenders to start as per Ed's suggestion. Dave, I did >not say Stan was to give you some used fenders. I suggested that you ask for >some cheap deal on used fenders. Do not tell Stan that I said lean on him >for some used stuff. Maybe you might try calling Rose and see if she can >arrange for Elton to have a few on board for emergency use? Bob's >suggestion is the way to go. > >Ed K >Greenville, SC, USA >~~~~_/)~~~~ >-- >View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fenders--t1333921.html#a3602850 >Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Sun Mar 26 18:19:03 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Sun Mar 26 21:19:05 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] West Coast Boat Delivery In-Reply-To: <26479305.1143424598452.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <27c.7f0f4d1.31549c1c@aol.com> <442498CD.4216074E@squirrelhaven.com> <260.9519ccc.315764ae@aol.com> <054c01c65087$9c2deba0$6401a8c0@mjm2> <44261420.6050502@effros.com> <325.9aff29.31577323@aol.com> <335.cba24b.31577657@aol.com> <056b01c650ea$27b6f970$6401a8c0@mjm2> <25e.9564337.31581f33@aol.com> <291.80cf938.31583500@aol.com> <3599691.post@talk.nabble.com> <5c154df70603261337x49d265abx777c181dc7831b6@mail.gmail.com> <2c0.791d92b.31587098@aol.com> <2ba.763be34.315871f0@aol.com> <26479305.1143424598452.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3602925.post@talk.nabble.com> Dave: Consider finding a west coast boat show that Stan or Elton could attend. Let them use the boat at the boat show and leave it on the west coast. This was done in California a couple of years ago. Both you guy being Rookies and not archives readers would not know that. Also try getting Stan to take the boat to his west coast son? Stan has a son who lives in California and this could be a chance for Stan to see his wayward son. There has to be a way to get you some help if you are willing to play ball. As for taking a boat long distances, just look at the past. Chris G has done it. Saroj moved her boat from Arizona to Virginia. It is done... How did the boat get to Calgary, Canada? Is there a river not on any map? By way of Hudson Bay? Ed K Greenville, SC, USA ~~~~_/)~~~~ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fenders--t1333921.html#a3602925 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From DCLewis1 at aol.com Sun Mar 26 21:32:30 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 26 21:32:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Not Free, need to pay for Elton's Gas Message-ID: <2ef.3f30335.3158a8be@aol.com> Ed, You're right, my idea of give from anything but a charity is "to make available for a suitable fee". GBI is not a charity. No problem. DaveL (there are 2 Dave's posting, I think there's some confusion) From czerwonky at earthlink.net Sun Mar 26 22:05:40 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Sun Mar 26 22:05:41 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bradenton R22 Championship Regatta Message-ID: <1598147.1143428740190.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Luis, It was good to see you yesterday during your trip to Atlanta and hope you continue to be on the mend. I do so admire your navigation skills, and want you to know the necessary coordinates for your GPS system " 33:53.14N, 84:15.22W". I will look forward to your future travels this way so we can plan to go sailing if wx permits. Your suggestion about the reunion/Regatta was excellent! Now if we can get some committed enthusiasm from our fellow Rhoadies on date, agenda, and preferred menus we will be in business. The theme is for racy sailing in the Bradenton tropics, complete with Mount Gay Rum, and some events possibly centered around the yacht club. Your extra boat could be used by those who don't want to trail their's from the far reaches in the North. We would preserve places of highest honor for Stan and Elton, and could create a good show atmosphere for locals who might have an interest in the boat. Actually could be a positive marketing event without distraction from competitive boats and with qualifled prospects. What do you think about Halloween? What costume should Ed wear... Actually a serious attempt to bring Rhoadies together for some fun; we sure get along well on the net, why not in person? What input from the list? Art From dwbrad at gmail.com Sun Mar 26 19:18:31 2006 From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley) Date: Sun Mar 26 22:18:35 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] West Coast Boat Delivery In-Reply-To: <3602925.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <27c.7f0f4d1.31549c1c@aol.com> <056b01c650ea$27b6f970$6401a8c0@mjm2> <25e.9564337.31581f33@aol.com> <291.80cf938.31583500@aol.com> <3599691.post@talk.nabble.com> <5c154df70603261337x49d265abx777c181dc7831b6@mail.gmail.com> <2c0.791d92b.31587098@aol.com> <2ba.763be34.315871f0@aol.com> <26479305.1143424598452.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <3602925.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <5c154df70603261918p590cfc1v388b98b7a412b102@mail.gmail.com> Ed, thanks for the ideas. I'm planning to take delivery in CT in April so I can sail in Long Island Sound for a few months, since my family isn't moving until late July and I'm coming home for weekends. One of the good things about a corporate move is that everything is negotiable -- in my case, moving a 22' boat 3,000 miles at the company's expense. - ) Dave B. On 3/26/06, Tootle wrote: > > > Dave: > Consider finding a west coast boat show that Stan or Elton could > attend. Let them use the boat at the boat show and leave it on the west > coast. This was done in California a couple of years ago. Both you guy > being Rookies and not archives readers would not know that. Also try > getting Stan to take the boat to his west coast son? Stan has a son who > lives in California and this could be a chance for Stan to see his wayward > son. There has to be a way to get you some help if you are willing to > play > ball. > As for taking a boat long distances, just look at the past. Chris G > has done it. Saroj moved her boat from Arizona to Virginia. It is > done... > How did the boat get to Calgary, Canada? Is there a river not on any > map? By way of Hudson Bay? > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > ~~~~_/)~~~~ > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Fenders--t1333921.html#a3602925 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- David Bradley 203.253.9973 dwbrad@gmail.com From dwbrad at gmail.com Sun Mar 26 19:23:12 2006 From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley) Date: Sun Mar 26 22:47:49 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call In-Reply-To: <26479305.1143424598452.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <26479305.1143424598452.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5c154df70603261923y4a39deeci4fa35e1e9989ae81@mail.gmail.com> Art, you are very thoughtful. Thanks. Some kind of covering for the hull makes a lot of sense. I've gotten some quotes from haulers and the best bet is to have them load the boat on its trailer onto a flat bed truck (or perhaps a car mover). But even still, covering the hull somehow sounds like a winner. Won't be til late July so some time to think about it. I suppose I could have the boat shrink wrapped by a local marina once it's on the trailer. Dave B. On 3/26/06, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > > Dave, > I try to imagine your pulling the boat cross country, and really wonder if > there is any alternative. That will be a buster. Stan and Elton might be > able to use some type of shield for the hull for such a long trip - rocks, > tar, all sorts of mischief could foul the bottom before you really get > underway after the pull. There ought to be some way to protect your big > investment. They might be able to raise it on a sling, drape the trailer > with some cloth or plastic/mylar, and lower it back down. I might be able > to find some plastic here and carry it to Stan when I take the new BR > over. I'd hate to get the gel dinged that way. Let me know what you think. > Art > > -----Original Message----- > >From: David Bradley > >Sent: Mar 26, 2006 4:37 PM > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call > > > >Ed, assuming you are asking this Dave... nope, I didn't get a chance to > go > >in the back building but if I do go down I'll check it out. I have four > new > >fenders waiting for a boat, but maybe there's something else I need. > > > >My hope is to go to Edenton to take delivery and go for a shake-down sail > >with Stan, as you say. If I can't find a weekend that will work before > late > >April I'll see if Elton can haul her north to CT and take her for a sail > >with me in LIS. Either way, I agree wholeheartedly with the need for a > >shake-down cruise and some helpful hints at the helm. > > > >I didn't anticipate all these distractions of new jobs and real estate > stuff > >getting in the way of taking delivery in March. Damn, gotta get my > >priorities straight. > > > >Dave B. > > > > > >On 3/26/06, Tootle wrote: > >> > >> > >> Dave, > >> When you visited Edenton, did Stan show you the room with all the > >> "stuff"? The room with the life preservers some from when he was a > boy, > >> the > >> fenders, the lines, generally all sorts of stuff that came with the > boats > >> he > >> picked up for recycle? > >> If you are going to get the boat, pick out some used fenders and > >> offer > >> Stan a few dollars to get started. If Elton is delivering, have him > pick > >> out half a dozed is assorted sizes and shapes in pairs and tell him > you > >> want them cheap to do your own testing to see what you really need. > >> All this fuss over fenders. I am not sure that I have any two > that > >> are exactly alike. As Bill E said they wear out and you have to put > them > >> in > >> the big green box. What they have today is probably not what they have > in > >> two years. > >> I guarentee that if you use your boat, fenders or no fenders, you > >> will > >> put some dings in it. Or if you do not, somebody else will. > >> If you are going to Edenton to get the boat, make sure that Stan > or > >> Elton take you on a shake down sail. Get them to put the boat thru a > good > >> test with you at the helm. Elton says Stan is the better sailor, but > >> either > >> one is better than any body else you will ever get a chance to sail > with. > >> > >> Ed K > >> Greenville, SC, USA > >> ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > >> > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> http://www.nabble.com/Fenders--t1333921.html#a3599691 > >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- David Bradley 203.253.9973 dwbrad@gmail.com From julie at circle7.net Mon Mar 27 06:40:14 2006 From: julie at circle7.net (Julie Thorndycraft) Date: Mon Mar 27 07:39:38 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call References: <26479305.1143424598452.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <5c154df70603261923y4a39deeci4fa35e1e9989ae81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002d01c6519b$98b35c70$6701a8c0@DJC3YR81> David, Talk to Stan about covering the boat as the covering might do more damage than any road grit. We hauled our boat from Edenton to Minnesota and have also trailored it another 4000 miles since with trips to Michigan, Lake Huron, Lake Superior, etc. We've never had any damage to the boat during that time. However, we are meticulous in making sure that anything that can flap, rub, or scrape is tied down or protected. We even tie the head door shut as that has come open during one of trips and got some marks on it from swinging back and forth. Julie s/v Blue Loon Excelsior, MN ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bradley" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call Art, you are very thoughtful. Thanks. Some kind of covering for the hull makes a lot of sense. I've gotten some quotes from haulers and the best bet is to have them load the boat on its trailer onto a flat bed truck (or perhaps a car mover). But even still, covering the hull somehow sounds like a winner. Won't be til late July so some time to think about it. I suppose I could have the boat shrink wrapped by a local marina once it's on the trailer. Dave B. On 3/26/06, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > > Dave, > I try to imagine your pulling the boat cross country, and really wonder if > there is any alternative. That will be a buster. Stan and Elton might be > able to use some type of shield for the hull for such a long trip - rocks, > tar, all sorts of mischief could foul the bottom before you really get > underway after the pull. There ought to be some way to protect your big > investment. They might be able to raise it on a sling, drape the trailer > with some cloth or plastic/mylar, and lower it back down. I might be able > to find some plastic here and carry it to Stan when I take the new BR > over. I'd hate to get the gel dinged that way. Let me know what you > think. > Art > > -----Original Message----- > >From: David Bradley > >Sent: Mar 26, 2006 4:37 PM > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call > > > >Ed, assuming you are asking this Dave... nope, I didn't get a chance to > go > >in the back building but if I do go down I'll check it out. I have four > new > >fenders waiting for a boat, but maybe there's something else I need. > > > >My hope is to go to Edenton to take delivery and go for a shake-down sail > >with Stan, as you say. If I can't find a weekend that will work before > late > >April I'll see if Elton can haul her north to CT and take her for a sail > >with me in LIS. Either way, I agree wholeheartedly with the need for a > >shake-down cruise and some helpful hints at the helm. > > > >I didn't anticipate all these distractions of new jobs and real estate > stuff > >getting in the way of taking delivery in March. Damn, gotta get my > >priorities straight. > > > >Dave B. > > > > > >On 3/26/06, Tootle wrote: > >> > >> > >> Dave, > >> When you visited Edenton, did Stan show you the room with all the > >> "stuff"? The room with the life preservers some from when he was a > boy, > >> the > >> fenders, the lines, generally all sorts of stuff that came with the > boats > >> he > >> picked up for recycle? > >> If you are going to get the boat, pick out some used fenders and > >> offer > >> Stan a few dollars to get started. If Elton is delivering, have him > pick > >> out half a dozed is assorted sizes and shapes in pairs and tell him > you > >> want them cheap to do your own testing to see what you really need. > >> All this fuss over fenders. I am not sure that I have any two > that > >> are exactly alike. As Bill E said they wear out and you have to put > them > >> in > >> the big green box. What they have today is probably not what they have > in > >> two years. > >> I guarentee that if you use your boat, fenders or no fenders, you > >> will > >> put some dings in it. Or if you do not, somebody else will. > >> If you are going to Edenton to get the boat, make sure that Stan > or > >> Elton take you on a shake down sail. Get them to put the boat thru a > good > >> test with you at the helm. Elton says Stan is the better sailor, but > >> either > >> one is better than any body else you will ever get a chance to sail > with. > >> > >> Ed K > >> Greenville, SC, USA > >> ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > >> > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> http://www.nabble.com/Fenders--t1333921.html#a3599691 > >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- David Bradley 203.253.9973 dwbrad@gmail.com __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From tnrhodey at hotmail.com Mon Mar 27 07:39:48 2006 From: tnrhodey at hotmail.com (TN Rhodey) Date: Mon Mar 27 07:39:59 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] PB---was Bunk - broken leg In-Reply-To: <20060327002819.5658684024@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Todd, I broke my fibula many years ago. I feel your pain! Hang in there; you have too much time invested. It will be worth it once you get your R22 splashed. Fair Winds, Wally >From: "Todd Tavares" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] PB---was Bunk >Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:28:19 -0500 > >Peter, > >My renovation is going slowly--any slower and it would be in reverse. I >have too many house projects and not enough time........not to mention >that I spent most of the past few months in a cast with a shattered >fibula. I guess I should find a desk job :-D. > >I have one boat, but two trailers, an extra mast, boom, furler, rudder, >and centerboard. If I can't get some of these other projects knocked >out soon, you may see my boat on e-bay too. > >Todd T. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Thorn" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:36:07 -0500 > > > Todd, > > That's right: two boats, two trailers. Now I choose between sailing > or pb > work. That's why pb progress is slow. > > How's the renovation coming? > > PT > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Todd Tavares" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bunk > > > Peter, > > I have a question.....but must first say that I have a terrible > memory. > > IIRC, you bought Mark's boat Raven right? ...and you also bought a > new > trailer from Stan. Did you buy Mark's trailer too? > > Todd T. > > -- > ___________________________________________________ > Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >-- >___________________________________________________ >Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From danielsnyder at adelphia.net Mon Mar 27 08:28:48 2006 From: danielsnyder at adelphia.net (daniel snyder) Date: Mon Mar 27 08:29:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call References: <26479305.1143424598452.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <5c154df70603261923y4a39deeci4fa35e1e9989ae81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006401c651a2$6183b090$0c01a8c0@home> Dave, We're headed to Edenton on 4-18 to see our new boat and deliver some electronics to Stan for installation. I'll ask him what they do because they will be delivering the boat and new double axle trailer to NH in May. Surely they have tremendous experience over the years delivering many boats and traveling to boat shows etc. I had a new West Wight Potter 15 delivered from the West coast to NH in 2004. It arrived in shrink wrap sitting on its trailer...and was in perfect condition. Dan New London, NH ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bradley" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call Art, you are very thoughtful. Thanks. Some kind of covering for the hull makes a lot of sense. I've gotten some quotes from haulers and the best bet is to have them load the boat on its trailer onto a flat bed truck (or perhaps a car mover). But even still, covering the hull somehow sounds like a winner. Won't be til late July so some time to think about it. I suppose I could have the boat shrink wrapped by a local marina once it's on the trailer. Dave B. On 3/26/06, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > > Dave, > I try to imagine your pulling the boat cross country, and really wonder if > there is any alternative. That will be a buster. Stan and Elton might be > able to use some type of shield for the hull for such a long trip - rocks, > tar, all sorts of mischief could foul the bottom before you really get > underway after the pull. There ought to be some way to protect your big > investment. They might be able to raise it on a sling, drape the trailer > with some cloth or plastic/mylar, and lower it back down. I might be able > to find some plastic here and carry it to Stan when I take the new BR > over. I'd hate to get the gel dinged that way. Let me know what you > think. > Art > > -----Original Message----- > >From: David Bradley > >Sent: Mar 26, 2006 4:37 PM > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call > > > >Ed, assuming you are asking this Dave... nope, I didn't get a chance to > go > >in the back building but if I do go down I'll check it out. I have four > new > >fenders waiting for a boat, but maybe there's something else I need. > > > >My hope is to go to Edenton to take delivery and go for a shake-down sail > >with Stan, as you say. If I can't find a weekend that will work before > late > >April I'll see if Elton can haul her north to CT and take her for a sail > >with me in LIS. Either way, I agree wholeheartedly with the need for a > >shake-down cruise and some helpful hints at the helm. > > > >I didn't anticipate all these distractions of new jobs and real estate > stuff > >getting in the way of taking delivery in March. Damn, gotta get my > >priorities straight. > > > >Dave B. > > > > > >On 3/26/06, Tootle wrote: > >> > >> > >> Dave, > >> When you visited Edenton, did Stan show you the room with all the > >> "stuff"? The room with the life preservers some from when he was a > boy, > >> the > >> fenders, the lines, generally all sorts of stuff that came with the > boats > >> he > >> picked up for recycle? > >> If you are going to get the boat, pick out some used fenders and > >> offer > >> Stan a few dollars to get started. If Elton is delivering, have him > pick > >> out half a dozed is assorted sizes and shapes in pairs and tell him > you > >> want them cheap to do your own testing to see what you really need. > >> All this fuss over fenders. I am not sure that I have any two > that > >> are exactly alike. As Bill E said they wear out and you have to put > them > >> in > >> the big green box. What they have today is probably not what they have > in > >> two years. > >> I guarentee that if you use your boat, fenders or no fenders, you > >> will > >> put some dings in it. Or if you do not, somebody else will. > >> If you are going to Edenton to get the boat, make sure that Stan > or > >> Elton take you on a shake down sail. Get them to put the boat thru a > good > >> test with you at the helm. Elton says Stan is the better sailor, but > >> either > >> one is better than any body else you will ever get a chance to sail > with. > >> > >> Ed K > >> Greenville, SC, USA > >> ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > >> > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> http://www.nabble.com/Fenders--t1333921.html#a3599691 > >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >> > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- David Bradley 203.253.9973 dwbrad@gmail.com __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From bill at effros.com Mon Mar 27 09:35:09 2006 From: bill at effros.com (Bill Effros) Date: Mon Mar 27 09:35:45 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Price Matching In-Reply-To: <2cd.6103794.315882ae@aol.com> References: <2cd.6103794.315882ae@aol.com> Message-ID: <4427F81D.7040909@effros.com> Dave, You make a very important point that I used to make every year, namely that if people buy from West Marine at prices offered only by competitors there soon won't be any competitors with lower prices, and we will all have to pay whatever West Marine wants to get. West Marine is all over the place, and they have excellent return policies. You must pay higher prices to get this much service. Fair enough. But when buying items that you know you don't have to return, and which you can wait to get, it is smart to buy them from the competitors, and not to just let someone else match their low price. Defender, Campmor, Bass, Cabella, all offer identical products, often at much much lower prices. There must be others, and I think people should post the names of discounters, and that we should support their businesses when we can do so, and refrain from simply allowing West Marine to take the business from them by matching their prices. Bill Effros DCLewis1@aol.com wrote: > Bud, > > Thanks but it's kind of a pain. The West Marine clerk told me about their > 30 day policy for new boat owners, but I'll need fender's almost immediately > once the boat is in the water. I won't have time to go shopping, unless Stan > can give me some used fenders to start as per Ed's suggestion. I'll probably > take advantage of their 30 day 10% off policy in terms of other outfitting > needs. > > FWIW, I did find Mary Lou's fenders, dock lines, etc, on line at Dick's > Sporting goods - each item was 10 to 20% cheaper than West Marine's price. > Unless we're trying to keep West Marine in business, I'm inclined to reward the > guy who offers me the best product with the best price with my business. I > think this "matching" business is sort of a cop out in terms of competitive > market processes. > > I think there is a place and a need for West Marine, but I also think they > are doing very well. > > Dave > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > From mltroy at verizon.net Mon Mar 27 10:52:45 2006 From: mltroy at verizon.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Mon Mar 27 10:52:22 2006 Subject: fenders and docklines Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? In-Reply-To: <260.9519ccc.315764ae@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20060327104157.01de54c8@incoming.verizon.net> At 10:29 PM 3/25/2006 -0500, Dave (L) wrote: > >Mary Lou, Thanks, I serendipitously got a message from Elton to begin >arranging for delivery. I responded asking if he provided special >fenders with his >delivery. I had noted the fenders you use in the West Marine catalog and >they looked interesting, but I didn't know what a good size was (looks to me >like you're using the shortest length) and whether they rolled sufficiently >given their shape. I gather they work well for you. > Dave ours are the long ones - 23-25" long 7" in diameter. I think you said you hadn't looked at your slip yet. Take a look. We never use fenders in most of the slips we've ever used - never in our home slip and rarely in transient slips. You may not need them in a slip. Most of the slips on the Chesapeake make extensive use of pilings as tie off points. Ours for example has a very short finger pier, cleats on the cross walk ahead of the bow and pilings at the end of the slip and pilings mid-ships. We've been in slips where a 25' line was just barely long enough. The best advice I can give you is to take a walk around the marina looking at how people tie up there boats. It's particularly instructive to look at how people with small boats tie up as the match up between boat and slip is different and the number of cleats on the boat available for tieing up is different. Good luck! Mary Lou 1991 R22 Fretless Ft. Washington, PA / Rock Hall, MD (Swan Creek) From dwbrad at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 08:32:34 2006 From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley) Date: Mon Mar 27 11:32:38 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Hauling Advice Message-ID: <5c154df70603270832h542c5785l48a7576748c9fe37@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Julie. More good info. Dave On 3/27/06, Julie Thorndycraft wrote: > > David, > Talk to Stan about covering the boat as the covering might do more damage > than any road grit. We hauled our boat from Edenton to Minnesota and have > also trailored it another 4000 miles since with trips to Michigan, Lake > Huron, Lake Superior, etc. We've never had any damage to the boat during > that time. However, we are meticulous in making sure that anything that > can > flap, rub, or scrape is tied down or protected. We even tie the head door > shut as that has come open during one of trips and got some marks on it > from > swinging back and forth. > > Julie > s/v Blue Loon > Excelsior, MN > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Bradley" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call > > > > Art, you are very thoughtful. Thanks. Some kind of covering for the hull > makes a lot of sense. I've gotten some quotes from haulers and the best > bet > is to have them load the boat on its trailer onto a flat bed truck (or > perhaps a car mover). But even still, covering the hull somehow sounds > like > a winner. Won't be til late July so some time to think about it. I > suppose > I could have the boat shrink wrapped by a local marina once it's on the > trailer. > > Dave B. > > > On 3/26/06, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > > > > Dave, > > I try to imagine your pulling the boat cross country, and really wonder > if > > there is any alternative. That will be a buster. Stan and Elton might > be > > able to use some type of shield for the hull for such a long trip - > rocks, > > tar, all sorts of mischief could foul the bottom before you really get > > underway after the pull. There ought to be some way to protect your big > > investment. They might be able to raise it on a sling, drape the > trailer > > with some cloth or plastic/mylar, and lower it back down. I might be > able > > to find some plastic here and carry it to Stan when I take the new BR > > over. I'd hate to get the gel dinged that way. Let me know what you > > think. > > Art > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: David Bradley > > >Sent: Mar 26, 2006 4:37 PM > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders, Dave and Elton's phone call > > > > > >Ed, assuming you are asking this Dave... nope, I didn't get a chance > to > > go > > >in the back building but if I do go down I'll check it out. I have > four > > new > > >fenders waiting for a boat, but maybe there's something else I need. > > > > > >My hope is to go to Edenton to take delivery and go for a shake-down > sail > > >with Stan, as you say. If I can't find a weekend that will work before > > late > > >April I'll see if Elton can haul her north to CT and take her for a > sail > > >with me in LIS. Either way, I agree wholeheartedly with the need for a > > >shake-down cruise and some helpful hints at the helm. > > > > > >I didn't anticipate all these distractions of new jobs and real estate > > stuff > > >getting in the way of taking delivery in March. Damn, gotta get my > > >priorities straight. > > > > > >Dave B. > > > > > > > > >On 3/26/06, Tootle wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Dave, > > >> When you visited Edenton, did Stan show you the room with all > the > > >> "stuff"? The room with the life preservers some from when he was a > > boy, > > >> the > > >> fenders, the lines, generally all sorts of stuff that came with the > > boats > > >> he > > >> picked up for recycle? > > >> If you are going to get the boat, pick out some used fenders and > > >> offer > > >> Stan a few dollars to get started. If Elton is delivering, have him > > pick > > >> out half a dozed is assorted sizes and shapes in pairs and tell him > > you > > >> want them cheap to do your own testing to see what you really need. > > >> All this fuss over fenders. I am not sure that I have any two > > that > > >> are exactly alike. As Bill E said they wear out and you have to put > > them > > >> in > > >> the big green box. What they have today is probably not what they > have > > in > > >> two years. > > >> I guarentee that if you use your boat, fenders or no fenders, > you > > >> will > > >> put some dings in it. Or if you do not, somebody else will. > > >> If you are going to Edenton to get the boat, make sure that > Stan > > or > > >> Elton take you on a shake down sail. Get them to put the boat thru a > > good > > >> test with you at the helm. Elton says Stan is the better sailor, but > > >> either > > >> one is better than any body else you will ever get a chance to sail > > with. > > >> > > >> Ed K > > >> Greenville, SC, USA > > >> ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > >> > > >> -- > > >> View this message in context: > > >> http://www.nabble.com/Fenders--t1333921.html#a3599691 > > >> Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > >> > > >> __________________________________________________ > > >> Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >> > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > -- > David Bradley > 203.253.9973 > dwbrad@gmail.com > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- David Bradley 203.253.9973 dwbrad@gmail.com From DCLewis1 at aol.com Mon Mar 27 11:59:21 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Mon Mar 27 11:59:30 2006 Subject: fenders and docklines Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? Message-ID: <300.1a37630.315973e9@aol.com> Mary Lou, Thanks. Dave From salm at mn.rr.com Mon Mar 27 14:09:46 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (Slim) Date: Mon Mar 27 15:00:57 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd T. ??? In-Reply-To: <3602792.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: Ed, That was me and JW who both had elbow surgery. Todd had neck surgery and now a broken leg--damn the luck. Sorry to hear about that, Todd. Slim On 3/26/06 7:55 PM, "Tootle" wrote: > > Todd, > Explain broken leg. Did Centerboard or Rudder fall on it. I thought > it was elbow surgery? > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > ~~~~_/) ~~~~ > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/PB---was-Bunk-t1346529.html#a3602792 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 27 15:51:52 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Mon Mar 27 16:52:00 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? In-Reply-To: <8656042.1143425045178.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Art, I never tried them under the seats. I toss them on top of the porta potty. Should fit in the laz if you want them more handy. They come in White and Orange. I have white but will replace with orange when I lose the next one - white is a little hard to find in the water. I use them all the time during classes as Man overboard and buoys for my students to sail around. Bob >From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? >Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:04:05 -0500 (GMT-05:00) > >Bob, >Good idea on the 12" ball. They should fit like a charm under the cockpit >seats, right. Did you say what color you have used? >Art > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Bob Weber > >Sent: Mar 24, 2006 10:06 AM > >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? > > > >Dave, I use the 12" Ball type fenders. I think they are better than the > >Gunkhole type since they will Roll along the dock. When docking i teach >my > >students to come in the slip at an angle, the fenders make contact and >roll > >along the dock until I can secure the stearn line that keeps me from >going > >too far forward. There a some purist out there cringing but It works for > >people with almost no tiller time. I also use the fenders as buoys >during > >the class to practice man overboard, etc. > > > >Bob Weber > > > >S/V Ruba > > > > > >>From: DCLewis1@aol.com > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >>To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > >>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? > >>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:49:32 EST > >> > >> > >> > >>Folks, > >> > >>We’re getting ready to actually get our boat, it should happen in >about 2 > >>weeks. It’s going to be tied up at a slip at Harrington Harbour >Marina > >>in > >>Deale Md with a couple of hundred other boats. > >> > >>Any advice as to how many of what kind of fenders will work in a typical > >>berthing arrangement? Dimensions? Round/Flat? > >> > >>I checked the achieves and gather Elton had some type of neat fender >that > >>slung over the gunnel, but that was a while ago. I’ve looked through >the > >> West > >>Marine stuff and there are Taylor low freeboard fenders and fence saver > >>fenders that might similar to posters were referring to (i.e. appear to > >>sling over > >>the gunnel), but I don’t know. There are flat fenders and conforming > >>flat > >>fenders. And then there are the good old round cylinders. And all of >the > >>above in a variety of lengths and thicknesses. > >> > >>What works? > >> > >>Dave > >> > >>__________________________________________________ > >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From kburkhardt at mn.rr.com Tue Mar 28 00:53:13 2006 From: kburkhardt at mn.rr.com (keith burkhardt) Date: Mon Mar 27 19:53:15 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] visiting Stan Message-ID: <001801c48b55$45d737f0$6401a8c0@Burkhardt> Shake downs on the boat at Edenton is a great idea! Sailing with Stan ----suggest you get the shop forman as he typically can fix up the boat asap...lkb of the Mary Margret From Jjansbro at aol.com Tue Mar 28 06:12:47 2006 From: Jjansbro at aol.com (Jjansbro@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 28 06:12:56 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 839, Issue 1 Message-ID: <6b.57d05920.315a742f@aol.com> For Sale: Mast from 1973 Rhodes 22. Set of sails included. Best offer.Babylon,N.Y. area From jsail1 at verizon.net Tue Mar 28 12:12:13 2006 From: jsail1 at verizon.net (Jay Friedland) Date: Tue Mar 28 12:12:18 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 839, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <6b.57d05920.315a742f@aol.com> References: <6b.57d05920.315a742f@aol.com> Message-ID: <2796C99B-1C7B-45E4-8D95-58C915BAF7FC@verizon.net> Please call Jerry O'Neill at 609/597-8019, or forward me your number for him to contact you. He is not computer-based and has a '76 R22. regards, Jay On Mar 28, 2006, at 6:12 AM, Jjansbro@aol.com wrote: > For Sale: Mast from 1973 Rhodes 22. Set of sails included. Best > offer.Babylon,N.Y. area > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From pthorn at nc.rr.com Tue Mar 28 13:19:07 2006 From: pthorn at nc.rr.com (Peter Thorn) Date: Tue Mar 28 13:19:54 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? References: Message-ID: <001d01c65294$1a56ee60$7e0fa8c0@dell330> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Weber" To: Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? > Art, I never tried them under the seats. I toss them on top of the porta > potty. Should fit in the laz if you want them more handy. They come in > White and Orange. I have white but will replace with orange when I lose the > next one - white is a little hard to find in the water. I use them all the > time during classes as Man overboard and buoys for my students to sail > around. Bob > > > >From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? > >Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:04:05 -0500 (GMT-05:00) > > > >Bob, > >Good idea on the 12" ball. They should fit like a charm under the cockpit > >seats, right. Did you say what color you have used? > >Art > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Bob Weber > > >Sent: Mar 24, 2006 10:06 AM > > >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? > > > > > >Dave, I use the 12" Ball type fenders. I think they are better than the > > >Gunkhole type since they will Roll along the dock. When docking i teach > >my > > >students to come in the slip at an angle, the fenders make contact and > >roll > > >along the dock until I can secure the stearn line that keeps me from > >going > > >too far forward. There a some purist out there cringing but It works for > > >people with almost no tiller time. I also use the fenders as buoys > >during > > >the class to practice man overboard, etc. > > > > > >Bob Weber > > > > > >S/V Ruba > > > > > > > > >>From: DCLewis1@aol.com > > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > > >>To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org > > >>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fenders? > > >>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:49:32 EST > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Folks, > > >> > > >>We??Tre getting ready to actually get our boat, it should happen in > >about 2 > > >>weeks. It??Ts going to be tied up at a slip at Harrington Harbour > >Marina > > >>in > > >>Deale Md with a couple of hundred other boats. > > >> > > >>Any advice as to how many of what kind of fenders will work in a typical > > >>berthing arrangement? Dimensions? Round/Flat? > > >> > > >>I checked the achieves and gather Elton had some type of neat fender > >that > > >>slung over the gunnel, but that was a while ago. I??Tve looked through > >the > > >> West > > >>Marine stuff and there are Taylor low freeboard fenders and fence saver > > >>fenders that might similar to posters were referring to (i.e. appear to > > >>sling over > > >>the gunnel), but I don??Tt know. There are flat fenders and conforming > > >>flat > > >>fenders. And then there are the good old round cylinders. And all of > >the > > >>above in a variety of lengths and thicknesses. > > >> > > >>What works? > > >> > > >>Dave > > >> > > >>__________________________________________________ > > >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com Tue Mar 28 15:50:51 2006 From: r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com (Bob Keller) Date: Tue Mar 28 15:51:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update In-Reply-To: <442188D1.5040801@effros.com> Message-ID: Great news!! Bob K >From: Bill Effros >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Update >Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:26:41 -0500 > >Dave, > >Art is building a prototype which he will bring to Stan as soon as the >pressure is off Stan to produce new boats for the current season. > >Then we'll hear what Stan has to say, and go forward from there. > >Also they will try it on different boats to ensure that one design will fit >all boats. > >In theory, the Boom Room will have the same top frame for all boats, with >interchangeable side, front, and rear panels designed to fit different >boats and different circumstances. > >Art is trying to see if he can make that work. > >In any case, Art expects to be able to pump out boom rooms for all who want >them, and to have them all out the door by this summer. Art is trying to >bring in the Boom Rooms for a retail price through Stan of $999. > >We'll see. > >Bill Effros > >Dave Dallas wrote: >>Hi Bob; >> >>My name is David Dallas, I am the Rhodie from Canada. Ed, I did not take >>my name off Frapper; I will have to check. >> >>Bob, I live in Calgary, Alberta. I have a 2001, one of Stan's demo boats. >> Great boat, although I have not had it a full season yet, and am still >>getting to know it. The water at my little lake turns soft end of April, >>beginning of May, so the boat will not be in the water until then. Let me >>know if you want a look/sail. Will you be sailing out of Flathead? I >>haven't been, but it is supposed to be great sailing! >> >>I should post with an appropriate header, but as an aside, does anyone >>know what is happening with the Boom Room development? >> >>David Dallas >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Tootle >>Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:22 AM >>To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bob Fletcher of Montana >> >> >> >>Bob: >> Welcome to the Rhodes 22 list. Feel free to post all your questions >>to >>the general email list. It has been quite for a few days and new blood >>will >>bring the sharks. >> First, you might take a look at this web site: >>http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22 >>While looking make sure you view Canada, just north of you in Calgary is a >>Rhodie. Or at least there was a few months ago. He apparently took >>himself >>off the frapper. I do not know why. Here is another suggestion. >>Get out of the cold for a few days and fly >>to Edenton, NC and see the tiny boats works that make this famous and >>imfamous vessel. See: www.rhodes22.com >> I do know about your weather, but it is supposed to almost make 60 >>in >>full sun today. See: >>http://camera.clemson.edu/weather/ >> >>Ed K >>Greenville, SC, USA >> >> >> >> >>-- >>View this message in context: >>http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-owners-in-NW--t1321660.html#a3532049 >>Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 28 15:18:03 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Tue Mar 28 16:18:09 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question et al. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi All, A couple weeks back I asked about the water feed to my sink being broken off from the pump. I removed the pump and I am looking for a replacement. It was made by A&E Systems Inc. Model Micro 100 (type 1 - 2 1/4 amp - 1 1/4 GPM) The important spec I cannot match is the male threaded attachment to the tank is 5/8". I can get close to all the other specs except for the 5/8 attachment. Any and all help appreciated. Stan you got any of those old pumps laying around? Bob Weber >From: Hank >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question et al. >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:50:08 -0500 > >Bob, > >The marelon mushroom head, barbed, goes down to a 1/2" barb. Is that small >enough for the hose? If not, buy the treaded and use reducers to get to a >smaller size. Should work just fine. > >Hank > > >On 3/13/06, Tootle wrote: > > > > > > Bob: > > Someone already said consider a thru hull. Look at page 545 in the > > 2006 West Marine catalog. See items C thru J. All you need to do is >ream > > out the exsisting hole to correct size and install. Oh, and they have > > threads, imagine that. Would any of those things get the job done? > > http://www.westmarine.com/ > > > > Rummy: > > As to the picture, there are sailboats having a good sail since it > > was a R22 taking the picture, there is no other rhodes in the picture. >If > > you need magnification, use your image viewer and magnify. > > Is your Drill press and router over in Rodger's workshop? > > > > Ed K > > Greenville, SC, USA > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > http://www.nabble.com/Plumbing-Question-t1273061.html#a3383902 > > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From R22RumRunner at aol.com Tue Mar 28 17:54:01 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 28 17:54:24 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question et al. Message-ID: <1ee.4d3f908c.315b1889@aol.com> Bob, A couple of pictures would be helpful. I replaced mine several years ago, but can't remember the exact configuration, but somehow, yours sounds different. Rummy From pthorn at nc.rr.com Tue Mar 28 17:56:58 2006 From: pthorn at nc.rr.com (Peter Thorn) Date: Tue Mar 28 17:57:40 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question et al. References: Message-ID: <000601c652ba$eb0a18e0$7e0fa8c0@dell330> Hi Bob, Raven's 18 y/o water pump occasionally drips a little (but otherwise works fine). Being compulsive and wanting it perfect, I contacted Stan with a similar question as yours. He sent a very nice low-draw pump that looks like it will be a snap to fit. Just trust Stan. He knows all the details and you will get the right stuff. PT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Weber" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question et al. > Hi All, A couple weeks back I asked about the water feed to my sink being > broken off from the pump. I removed the pump and I am looking for a > replacement. It was made by A&E Systems Inc. Model Micro 100 (type 1 - 2 > 1/4 amp - 1 1/4 GPM) The important spec I cannot match is the male threaded > attachment to the tank is 5/8". I can get close to all the other specs > except for the 5/8 attachment. Any and all help appreciated. Stan you got > any of those old pumps laying around? Bob Weber > > > >From: Hank > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Plumbing Question et al. > >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:50:08 -0500 > > > >Bob, > > > >The marelon mushroom head, barbed, goes down to a 1/2" barb. Is that small > >enough for the hose? If not, buy the treaded and use reducers to get to a > >smaller size. Should work just fine. > > > >Hank > > > > > >On 3/13/06, Tootle wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bob: > > > Someone already said consider a thru hull. Look at page 545 in the > > > 2006 West Marine catalog. See items C thru J. All you need to do is > >ream > > > out the exsisting hole to correct size and install. Oh, and they have > > > threads, imagine that. Would any of those things get the job done? > > > http://www.westmarine.com/ > > > > > > Rummy: > > > As to the picture, there are sailboats having a good sail since it > > > was a R22 taking the picture, there is no other rhodes in the picture. > >If > > > you need magnification, use your image viewer and magnify. > > > Is your Drill press and router over in Rodger's workshop? > > > > > > Ed K > > > Greenville, SC, USA > > > > > > -- > > > View this message in context: > > > http://www.nabble.com/Plumbing-Question-t1273061.html#a3383902 > > > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From tropicalwife at gmail.com Tue Mar 28 18:38:19 2006 From: tropicalwife at gmail.com (Julia Guzman) Date: Tue Mar 28 18:38:22 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bradenton R22 Championship Regatta In-Reply-To: <1598147.1143428740190.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <1598147.1143428740190.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <86d894e60603281538x25ffa305y96770344ab74feb6@mail.gmail.com> Art, The Bradenton reunion/regatta sounds great. I too am part of the club here in Bradenton and have been crew in many of the races, especially lately. Am taking lessons these days from an experienced member of the club in hopes of sailing my own R22 in those races someday. I'll be happy to help organize anything that we can stir up here in paradise. I am sure the club would be friendly about it all. We really do have a great community and surely will welcome all Rhoadies with rum and a smile. ~ Julia G. On 3/26/06, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > > Luis, > > It was good to see you yesterday during your trip to Atlanta and hope you > continue to be on the mend. I do so admire your navigation skills, and want > you to know the necessary coordinates for your GPS system " 33:53.14N, 84: > 15.22W". I will look forward to your future travels this way so we can > plan to go sailing if wx permits. > > Your suggestion about the reunion/Regatta was excellent! Now if we can > get some committed enthusiasm from our fellow Rhoadies on date, agenda, and > preferred menus we will be in business. The theme is for racy sailing in > the Bradenton tropics, complete with Mount Gay Rum, and some events possibly > centered around the yacht club. Your extra boat could be used by those who > don't want to trail their's from the far reaches in the North. > > We would preserve places of highest honor for Stan and Elton, and could > create a good show atmosphere for locals who might have an interest in the > boat. Actually could be a positive marketing event without distraction from > competitive boats and with qualifled prospects. > > What do you think about Halloween? What costume should Ed wear... > > Actually a serious attempt to bring Rhoadies together for some fun; we > sure get along well on the net, why not in person? What input from the > list? > > Art > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From R22RumRunner at aol.com Tue Mar 28 18:48:00 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Tue Mar 28 18:48:09 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bradenton R22 Championship Regatta Message-ID: <15c.60a66f65.315b2530@aol.com> Did you say FREE rum? Rummy....I'm packing my bags. From mjm at michaelmeltzer.com Wed Mar 29 20:03:48 2006 From: mjm at michaelmeltzer.com (Michel Meltzer) Date: Wed Mar 29 20:01:35 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cops slap Asbo on terror cat Message-ID: <016601c65395$cd293460$6401a8c0@mjm2> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/29/asbo_cat/ From ekroposki at charter.net Thu Mar 30 09:56:42 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (ed kroposki) Date: Thu Mar 30 09:57:06 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars Message-ID: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> What is the collective wisdom and recommendation for a cheap used car? Specifically a car that is small, fuel efficient, safe to use around town. This would not be a primary vehicle, but a knock around car that you do not have to worry about getting stolen or hit in a parking lot. Suggestions appreciated. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ From ruba1811 at hotmail.com Thu Mar 30 09:32:14 2006 From: ruba1811 at hotmail.com (Bob Weber) Date: Thu Mar 30 10:32:20 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars In-Reply-To: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: Ed, That is all I have ever owned. Had great luck with a honda accord and Suburu Legacy. Both had better than 150K and you would never worry about it starting. Bob >From: "ed kroposki" >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:56:42 -0500 > >What is the collective wisdom and recommendation for a cheap used car? >Specifically a car that is small, fuel efficient, safe to use around town. >This would not be a primary vehicle, but a knock around car that you do not >have to worry about getting stolen or hit in a parking lot. > >Suggestions appreciated. > >Ed K >Greenville, SC, USA >~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From jsail1 at verizon.net Thu Mar 30 10:32:45 2006 From: jsail1 at verizon.net (Jay Friedland) Date: Thu Mar 30 10:32:51 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars In-Reply-To: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> References: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: <9A8805EA-7C07-43DF-95B1-CD2999D251EE@verizon.net> Ed, No much on details, but any year Corolla (with CarFax report) has got to be one of the best values. I had the first model year of the Toyota Avalon, drove it 365K, and only replaced rack and pinion, nothing else on the motor/drivetrain. That was 24+ mpg. Jay On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:56 AM, ed kroposki wrote: > What is the collective wisdom and recommendation for a cheap used car? > Specifically a car that is small, fuel efficient, safe to use > around town. > This would not be a primary vehicle, but a knock around car that > you do not > have to worry about getting stolen or hit in a parking lot. > > Suggestions appreciated. > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From R22RumRunner at aol.com Thu Mar 30 11:10:12 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 30 11:10:29 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars Message-ID: <305.17089ec.315d5ce4@aol.com> Ed, Get a 1964 VW bug. Rummy From czerwonky at earthlink.net Thu Mar 30 11:20:30 2006 From: czerwonky at earthlink.net (Arthur H. Czerwonky) Date: Thu Mar 30 11:20:53 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars Message-ID: <23772088.1143735630586.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ed, I second Bob's motion on the Accord. I am thinking, however, that you really should have researched this more fully before bringing it to the list. We can provide search engine recommendations if you need. I bought a six year old Accord, '94 as I recall, for my son, after a local fitness inspection (~$120) and it has not had a single problem in those 5 years. It now has about 200k miles. Hope this helps. Art -----Original Message----- >From: Bob Weber >Sent: Mar 30, 2006 10:32 AM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars > >Ed, That is all I have ever owned. Had great luck with a honda accord and >Suburu Legacy. Both had better than 150K and you would never worry about it >starting. Bob > > >>From: "ed kroposki" >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars >>Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:56:42 -0500 >> >>What is the collective wisdom and recommendation for a cheap used car? >>Specifically a car that is small, fuel efficient, safe to use around town. >>This would not be a primary vehicle, but a knock around car that you do not >>have to worry about getting stolen or hit in a parking lot. >> >>Suggestions appreciated. >> >>Ed K >>Greenville, SC, USA >>~~~~ _/) ~~~~ >> >> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From napoli68 at charter.net Thu Mar 30 09:40:32 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Thu Mar 30 12:19:29 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars References: Message-ID: <000b01c65421$0c182240$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Ed, I second the exact reccomendation of Bob. I had both of the same cars, I have 241,000 on the Accord (88) and it still runs fine as long as I can keep the headliner out of my eyes. The subaru was great and I reluctantly sold it at 178,000. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Weber" To: Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:32 AM Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars > Ed, That is all I have ever owned. Had great luck with a honda accord and > Suburu Legacy. Both had better than 150K and you would never worry about it > starting. Bob > > > >From: "ed kroposki" > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars > >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:56:42 -0500 > > > >What is the collective wisdom and recommendation for a cheap used car? > >Specifically a car that is small, fuel efficient, safe to use around town. > >This would not be a primary vehicle, but a knock around car that you do not > >have to worry about getting stolen or hit in a parking lot. > > > >Suggestions appreciated. > > > >Ed K > >Greenville, SC, USA > >~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From tfl4625 at blackfoot.net Thu Mar 30 10:30:53 2006 From: tfl4625 at blackfoot.net (Bob Fletcher) Date: Thu Mar 30 12:30:55 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars References: <23772088.1143735630586.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <003701c6541f$b2947170$4200a8c0@fletcher> Ed, Someone sugested Subaru. Our family has had a flock of Subarus over the years. Generally long lived but watch ot for the mid to late 90's 2.5 litre engines. All I have known of required espensive valve jobs around 100,000 miles. In contrast, had a 92 Legacy 2.2 litre that went 300,000 + trouble free. Bob Fletcher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9:20 AM Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars > Ed, > > I second Bob's motion on the Accord. I am thinking, however, that you > really should have researched this more fully before bringing it to the > list. We can provide search engine recommendations if you need. > > I bought a six year old Accord, '94 as I recall, for my son, after a local > fitness inspection (~$120) and it has not had a single problem in those 5 > years. It now has about 200k miles. Hope this helps. > > Art > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Bob Weber >>Sent: Mar 30, 2006 10:32 AM >>To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars >> >>Ed, That is all I have ever owned. Had great luck with a honda accord and >>Suburu Legacy. Both had better than 150K and you would never worry about >>it >>starting. Bob >> >> >>>From: "ed kroposki" >>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars >>>Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:56:42 -0500 >>> >>>What is the collective wisdom and recommendation for a cheap used car? >>>Specifically a car that is small, fuel efficient, safe to use around >>>town. >>>This would not be a primary vehicle, but a knock around car that you do >>>not >>>have to worry about getting stolen or hit in a parking lot. >>> >>>Suggestions appreciated. >>> >>>Ed K >>>Greenville, SC, USA >>>~~~~ _/) ~~~~ >>> >>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________ >>>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From DCLewis1 at aol.com Thu Mar 30 13:01:17 2006 From: DCLewis1 at aol.com (DCLewis1@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 30 13:01:25 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars Message-ID: <2a2.838885a.315d76ed@aol.com> Ed, Tis a connundrum. The winners for reliability are Toyota, Honda, and Suburu - but that?s a known quantity and priced into the product. Used Toyotas, Honda?s and Suburu?s are going to cost more, but may run better and longer than other brands. Looking at my 06 Consumers Report Buying Guide the following are only average: Suburu Legacy 00,01,02 Impreza 99 Forester 98,99,00 Honda Odessy 99,02 Toyota Solara 04, Sequoia 03, Sienna 03 All other Toyotas, Hondas and Suburus are above average. All Chevy Geo Prizms are above average, they rated 97 thru 02 Ford Escort ZX2 97, 99, 02 is rated above average, other years are average. However, I have read there are problems w early Escorts. Ford F150 2wd 04 is average, the rest are above average. Ford F150 4wd, 99 is average, 04 is much worse than average (i.e. avoid), the rest are above average. Nissan pickup Fronter, avoid 04, the rest are better than average. We drive a Toytoa van, at 125K mi and counting it?s been the best car I ever owned. But then, how about one of those WWII vintage DUCKs. You know, the amphibious wheeled vehicle. It's kind of large to park, but you probably wouldn't have to worry about other small cars. Just mount a mast on that sucker and you're in business. Around the town or around the lake you-da-man, and all those guys with Hummers will be green with envy. Just a thought. Dave From hnw555 at gmail.com Thu Mar 30 09:58:32 2006 From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank) Date: Thu Mar 30 13:44:13 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars In-Reply-To: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> References: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: Ed, I bought a used Saturn for my daughter and it has been a great car. It is a 97 SL2 and we have had minimal problems. Gets decent gas mileage, too. Hank On 3/30/06, ed kroposki wrote: > > What is the collective wisdom and recommendation for a cheap used car? > Specifically a car that is small, fuel efficient, safe to use around town. > This would not be a primary vehicle, but a knock around car that you do > not > have to worry about getting stolen or hit in a parking lot. > > Suggestions appreciated. > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From ekroposki at charter.net Thu Mar 30 10:52:26 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Thu Mar 30 13:52:30 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reply to cheap used cars In-Reply-To: <2a2.838885a.315d76ed@aol.com> References: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> <9A8805EA-7C07-43DF-95B1-CD2999D251EE@verizon.net> <305.17089ec.315d5ce4@aol.com> <23772088.1143735630586.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <003701c6541f$b2947170$4200a8c0@fletcher> <2a2.838885a.315d76ed@aol.com> Message-ID: <3676153.post@talk.nabble.com> Rummy, I had a 1963 bug, the air cooled engine did not do well in Texas. Art, It is difficult to research your associates opinions on internet. Chris, Bob, Maybe a Subaru, in this part of the country we are not subject to the body rot that they get up north. Dave, I am replacing a Geo - I do not like the way it drives. I have found that different brands drive differently. I like Volkwagon, Ford (but not the Ranger pickups), and Dodge. They have a different feel from General Motors products and Toyota relatives. I really like my Ford Van. Maybe I prefer vehicles that drive like trucks. And the rest of you guys who replied, thanks... Ed K Greenville, SC USA ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Non-Sailing-Question---cheap-used-cars-t1368966.html#a3676153 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From engineerpac at gmail.com Thu Mar 30 13:58:37 2006 From: engineerpac at gmail.com (andrew collins) Date: Thu Mar 30 13:59:28 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars In-Reply-To: References: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: <206efdf40603301058g20e6ac69x207540e37cb6277e@mail.gmail.com> I have 1992 Saturn SL2 (bought new) and have had to replace brake disks and the valve cover gasket, and nothing else. Mileage is good at 25/32 city/hwy. If I had to buy a used one, I would probably go for the Hondas, they drive much better and are easier to re-sell. Andrew On 3/30/06, Hank wrote: > > Ed, > > I bought a used Saturn for my daughter and it has been a great car. It is > a > 97 SL2 and we have had minimal problems. Gets decent gas mileage, too. > > Hank > > > On 3/30/06, ed kroposki wrote: > > > > What is the collective wisdom and recommendation for a cheap used car? > > Specifically a car that is small, fuel efficient, safe to use around > town. > > This would not be a primary vehicle, but a knock around car that you do > > not > > have to worry about getting stolen or hit in a parking lot. > > > > Suggestions appreciated. > > > > Ed K > > Greenville, SC, USA > > ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- Andrew From engineerpac at gmail.com Thu Mar 30 13:59:17 2006 From: engineerpac at gmail.com (andrew collins) Date: Thu Mar 30 13:59:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars In-Reply-To: References: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: <206efdf40603301059m1d85e234ld9329983c3e713b9@mail.gmail.com> I have 1992 Saturn SL2 (bought new) and have had to replace brake disks and the valve cover gasket, and nothing else. Mileage is good at 25/32 city/hwy. If I had to buy a used one, I would probably go for the Hondas, they drive much better and are easier to re-sell. Andrew On 3/30/06, Hank wrote: > > Ed, > > I bought a used Saturn for my daughter and it has been a great car. It is > a > 97 SL2 and we have had minimal problems. Gets decent gas mileage, too. > > Hank > > > On 3/30/06, ed kroposki wrote: > > > > What is the collective wisdom and recommendation for a cheap used car? > > Specifically a car that is small, fuel efficient, safe to use around > town. > > This would not be a primary vehicle, but a knock around car that you do > > not > > have to worry about getting stolen or hit in a parking lot. > > > > Suggestions appreciated. > > > > Ed K > > Greenville, SC, USA > > ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- Andrew From gjm at macgra.com Thu Mar 30 14:07:15 2006 From: gjm at macgra.com (Gregg J. MacMillan) Date: Thu Mar 30 14:07:30 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars In-Reply-To: References: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: At 9:58 AM -0500 3/30/06, Hank wrote: I bought a used Saturn for my daughter and it has been a great car. It is a 97 SL2 and we have had minimal problems. Gets decent gas mileage, too. I just happen to have that exact car listed on eBay right now. It was my daughter's. She bought a new car and left me this one to sell. Ignore the price on the page....Special Price / Today Only / $2750. / :-) http://tinyurl.com/kxewz --Gregg -- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ M a c M i l l a n G r a p h i c s 1 . 8 0 0 . 7 7 1 . 3 1 7 1 2002 Ford Circle, Milford, OH 45150 mailto:gjm@macgra.com http://www.macgra.com _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ From rlipton at earthlink.net Thu Mar 30 13:44:25 2006 From: rlipton at earthlink.net (Ronald Lipton) Date: Thu Mar 30 14:44:40 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars References: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> Message-ID: <013801c65432$59c92410$86e2e183@D0NT244> We have an '02 Saturn and it is falling apart. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hank" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars Ed, I bought a used Saturn for my daughter and it has been a great car. It is a 97 SL2 and we have had minimal problems. Gets decent gas mileage, too. Hank On 3/30/06, ed kroposki wrote: > > What is the collective wisdom and recommendation for a cheap used car? > Specifically a car that is small, fuel efficient, safe to use around town. > This would not be a primary vehicle, but a knock around car that you do > not > have to worry about getting stolen or hit in a parking lot. > > Suggestions appreciated. > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From dwbrad at gmail.com Thu Mar 30 16:08:07 2006 From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley) Date: Thu Mar 30 19:15:21 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reply to cheap used cars In-Reply-To: <3676153.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> <9A8805EA-7C07-43DF-95B1-CD2999D251EE@verizon.net> <305.17089ec.315d5ce4@aol.com> <23772088.1143735630586.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <003701c6541f$b2947170$4200a8c0@fletcher> <2a2.838885a.315d76ed@aol.com> <3676153.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <5c154df70603301608r5149846dy48ce664ab8c58e7d@mail.gmail.com> I had a Honda Accord that drove fine for 11 years until I ran it into the back of a Chevy Blazer. Totaled the Honda, did $250 damage to the Blazer. But before it was totaled, it was the lowest-maintenance, most-reliable car I'd ever had. Dave B On 3/30/06, Tootle wrote: > > > Rummy, > I had a 1963 bug, the air cooled engine did not do well in Texas. > Art, > It is difficult to research your associates opinions on internet. > Chris, Bob, > Maybe a Subaru, in this part of the country we are not subject to the > body rot that they get up north. > Dave, > I am replacing a Geo - I do not like the way it drives. I have found > that different brands drive differently. I like Volkwagon, Ford (but not > the Ranger pickups), and Dodge. They have a different feel from General > Motors products and Toyota relatives. I really like my Ford Van. Maybe I > prefer vehicles that drive like trucks. > > And the rest of you guys who replied, thanks... > > Ed K > Greenville, SC USA > ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Non-Sailing-Question---cheap-used-cars-t1368966.html#a3676153 > Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > -- David Bradley 203.253.9973 dwbrad@gmail.com From trpclman at yahoo.com Thu Mar 30 16:35:06 2006 From: trpclman at yahoo.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Thu Mar 30 19:35:09 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bradenton R22 Championship Regatta In-Reply-To: <86d894e60603281538x25ffa305y96770344ab74feb6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060331003506.24853.qmail@web54510.mail.yahoo.com> Art, It would be wonderful to get every body together for a couple of days. I'm pretty sure that the yatch club will be interested in hosting this event. We have a wonderful marina with launching ramp, work area, and slips with easy access to the Sarasota bay and the Gulf of Mexico. It is a wonderful area to sail. I'm a director for the club and I attend the board meetings. If we have Rhodies interested in this event, I'll bring this to the attention of the board at the next meeting. Rummy, for your information, we are a drinking community with a sailing problem. Rum is a necessity aboard. Luis Julia Guzman wrote: Art, The Bradenton reunion/regatta sounds great. I too am part of the club here in Bradenton and have been crew in many of the races, especially lately. Am taking lessons these days from an experienced member of the club in hopes of sailing my own R22 in those races someday. I'll be happy to help organize anything that we can stir up here in paradise. I am sure the club would be friendly about it all. We really do have a great community and surely will welcome all Rhoadies with rum and a smile. ~ Julia G. On 3/26/06, Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote: > > Luis, > > It was good to see you yesterday during your trip to Atlanta and hope you > continue to be on the mend. I do so admire your navigation skills, and want > you to know the necessary coordinates for your GPS system " 33:53.14N, 84: > 15.22W". I will look forward to your future travels this way so we can > plan to go sailing if wx permits. > > Your suggestion about the reunion/Regatta was excellent! Now if we can > get some committed enthusiasm from our fellow Rhoadies on date, agenda, and > preferred menus we will be in business. The theme is for racy sailing in > the Bradenton tropics, complete with Mount Gay Rum, and some events possibly > centered around the yacht club. Your extra boat could be used by those who > don't want to trail their's from the far reaches in the North. > > We would preserve places of highest honor for Stan and Elton, and could > create a good show atmosphere for locals who might have an interest in the > boat. Actually could be a positive marketing event without distraction from > competitive boats and with qualifled prospects. > > What do you think about Halloween? What costume should Ed wear... > > Actually a serious attempt to bring Rhoadies together for some fun; we > sure get along well on the net, why not in person? What input from the > list? > > Art > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From R22RumRunner at aol.com Thu Mar 30 19:54:18 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 30 19:54:28 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rummy's rant. Sailing and automibiles. Message-ID: <74.67237a41.315dd7ba@aol.com> Luis, Finally a voice that I can understand. A drinking community with a sailing problem.....my kind of people. Now, all this talk about automobiles has really got me worked up. What ever happened to owning a good, old fashioned piece of American iron, something with real muscle? All these great reviews of Japanese rice grinders has really got me pissed off. Have you ever spent hours on end sitting in one? The seats were designed for someone with an iron ass. You can take C.R. and stick it where the sun doesn't shine just like P.S. It's all a bunch of crap. BUY AMERICAN....and don't talk to me about the rice grinders built in this country....the profits all end up in Japan. Buy American people.....and drink more rum....you might see the trees through the forest if you do. Remember where the R22 is built. A M E R I C A. Rummy said that. From ekroposki at charter.net Thu Mar 30 17:14:31 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Thu Mar 30 20:14:36 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Yea Rummy's rant. Sailing and automibiles. In-Reply-To: <74.67237a41.315dd7ba@aol.com> References: <74.67237a41.315dd7ba@aol.com> Message-ID: <3681807.post@talk.nabble.com> Way to go Rummy, but does that rant include German or other European cars? You know like Dodge pick up trucks? Question for Luis, what is the weather like down there lately? Only problem for me is that it is about a 9 hour drive. It has gotten to the point that sitting in any vehicle that amount of time is excessive. Do you by chance have a plane you can pick us up with? Rummy has a nice small municiple airport a few miles from his house. About the same size as the one you can see from Stan's office. When all is said and done, I prefer American bourbon, not the Carribean drink. Rummy needs to change to an American beverage, don't you think? Ed K Greenville, SC USA ~~~~_/) ~~(\_ ~~~~ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rummy%27s-rant.-Sailing-and-automibiles.-t1372008.html#a3681807 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From R22RumRunner at aol.com Thu Mar 30 20:36:08 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Thu Mar 30 20:36:23 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reply to:Yea Rummy's rant. Sailing and automibiles. Message-ID: <267.86938b3.315de188@aol.com> Hey Ed, Rum comes from Barbados, but the diet coke is American. The early VW's were good cars, Fuel efficient and simple to work on. 30 miles per gallon no matter how you drove it. German yes, but at least well built. I could drive my old VW for hours. Sitting in a Honda or a Toyota gives me hemorrhoids. I have always owned American cars (except for the VW's) and have had great service from them. Our 92 Pontiac Grand Prix had 315,000 miles on it when we gave it away and it is still on the road. Japanese cars are way over rated in my opinion and really uncomfortable. Buy American people. Your neighbors jobs depends on it. I can't see me sailing a Sam Pan(SP?) anywhere in the near future. Rummy......I think I need another drink. Honey.....where's the rum? From salm at mn.rr.com Thu Mar 30 23:03:48 2006 From: salm at mn.rr.com (Slim) Date: Thu Mar 30 23:54:53 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reply to:Yea Rummy's rant. Sailing and automibiles. In-Reply-To: <267.86938b3.315de188@aol.com> Message-ID: My wife has a Camry which runs great and all, but I can't drive it for more than a half hour without getting a back ache. I can drive my Ford E250 all the way to Ft. Wayne (10 hours) without more than one stop for gas. Ummm... Lots and lots of gas. 8-) Slim On 3/30/06 7:36 PM, "R22RumRunner@aol.com" wrote: > Hey Ed, > Rum comes from Barbados, but the diet coke is American. The early VW's were > good cars, Fuel efficient and simple to work on. 30 miles per gallon no matter > how you drove it. German yes, but at least well built. I could drive my old > VW for hours. Sitting in a Honda or a Toyota gives me hemorrhoids. I have > always owned American cars (except for the VW's) and have had great service > from > them. Our 92 Pontiac Grand Prix had 315,000 miles on it when we gave it away > and it is still on the road. Japanese cars are way over rated in my opinion > and really uncomfortable. Buy American people. Your neighbors jobs depends on > it. I can't see me sailing a Sam Pan(SP?) anywhere in the near future. > > Rummy......I think I need another drink. Honey.....where's the rum? > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From fsmoon at new.rr.com Thu Mar 30 12:51:49 2006 From: fsmoon at new.rr.com (Frank and Sherry Moon) Date: Fri Mar 31 00:17:15 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Wanted Message-ID: <005f01c6542b$01f38020$6400a8c0@frankcomp> I am interested in a used Rhodes 22. Any available? Thank you, Frank Moon 920-336-7170 From zoomerzx at gmail.com Thu Mar 30 17:34:14 2006 From: zoomerzx at gmail.com (Todd Zumach) Date: Fri Mar 31 00:18:19 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars In-Reply-To: <013801c65432$59c92410$86e2e183@D0NT244> References: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> <013801c65432$59c92410$86e2e183@D0NT244> Message-ID: <39c52f6f0603301534w6ffb840wba9264dcc33d37e6@mail.gmail.com> Daughter #1 was stuck with our 1991 Dodge Caravan, it actually has held up well (like a tank with rust). Daughter #2 has a 1995 Corolla (Grandma's old car). It was well cared for, and has had zero problems except for a propensity to drive off snow covered highways (Hmmm, that may be do to issues beyond Toyota's control). We looked at early 2000-2003 Saturn's for D1, they all looked great, but my brother-in-law is a mechanic (see note about well cared for Toyota above) who has seen a lot of the first generation Saturn's with problems. The second generation, after 2003 (I think) appear to be better. My wife currently drives a 2001 Suburu Outback wagon. Four cyl and 5 speed manual (I think it was her mid life crisis decision to get another manual). We have had good luck with that car as well. That leaves my 1996 Dodge Ram 4x4. I will never buy another Dodge product (we've had 3). There have been a plethora of small problems and serious rust issues. My next truck will be a used Nissan Titan unless some manufacturer comes out with a 4x4 that gets 30+ miles per gallon and can pull my Rhodes. Check out www.epinions.com. I have found it to be a useful resource for getting opinions on a variety of consumer products. Too bad it doesn't work for getting opinions on potential crew members on Zephyrus. Oh, yes, big news, we have finally agreed on a name for the boat! Zephyrus, was the Greek god of the gentle western winds. Of course it starts with a Z so that is a plus too. Todd Zumach Phillips, WI s/v Zephyrus 1986 R22 On 3/30/06, Ronald Lipton wrote: > > We have an '02 Saturn and it is falling apart. > > Ron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hank" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars > > > Ed, > > I bought a used Saturn for my daughter and it has been a great car. It is > a > 97 SL2 and we have had minimal problems. Gets decent gas mileage, too. > > Hank > > > On 3/30/06, ed kroposki wrote: > > > > What is the collective wisdom and recommendation for a cheap used car? > > Specifically a car that is small, fuel efficient, safe to use around > town. > > This would not be a primary vehicle, but a knock around car that you do > > not > > have to worry about getting stolen or hit in a parking lot. > > > > Suggestions appreciated. > > > > Ed K > > Greenville, SC, USA > > ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > From napoli68 at charter.net Thu Mar 30 23:12:41 2006 From: napoli68 at charter.net (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Fri Mar 31 01:51:35 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars References: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst><013801c65432$59c92410$86e2e183@D0NT244> <39c52f6f0603301534w6ffb840wba9264dcc33d37e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001701c65492$80d15a40$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Todd, Never mind the car choice you picked the name for your boat and that comunts big......especially since it is Greek, a wise choice. See, Rummy, sometimes foreign is better than American. Would Todd really want to call his boat "That-woosey-wind-from-the-west"? Chris GIANNAKOPOLOUS (greek spelling) Medford, OR. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Zumach" To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars Daughter #1 was stuck with our 1991 Dodge Caravan, it actually has held up well (like a tank with rust). Daughter #2 has a 1995 Corolla (Grandma's old car). It was well cared for, and has had zero problems except for a propensity to drive off snow covered highways (Hmmm, that may be do to issues beyond Toyota's control). We looked at early 2000-2003 Saturn's for D1, they all looked great, but my brother-in-law is a mechanic (see note about well cared for Toyota above) who has seen a lot of the first generation Saturn's with problems. The second generation, after 2003 (I think) appear to be better. My wife currently drives a 2001 Suburu Outback wagon. Four cyl and 5 speed manual (I think it was her mid life crisis decision to get another manual). We have had good luck with that car as well. That leaves my 1996 Dodge Ram 4x4. I will never buy another Dodge product (we've had 3). There have been a plethora of small problems and serious rust issues. My next truck will be a used Nissan Titan unless some manufacturer comes out with a 4x4 that gets 30+ miles per gallon and can pull my Rhodes. Check out www.epinions.com. I have found it to be a useful resource for getting opinions on a variety of consumer products. Too bad it doesn't work for getting opinions on potential crew members on Zephyrus. Oh, yes, big news, we have finally agreed on a name for the boat! Zephyrus, was the Greek god of the gentle western winds. Of course it starts with a Z so that is a plus too. Todd Zumach Phillips, WI s/v Zephyrus 1986 R22 On 3/30/06, Ronald Lipton wrote: > > We have an '02 Saturn and it is falling apart. > > Ron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hank" > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Non Sailing Question - cheap used cars > > > Ed, > > I bought a used Saturn for my daughter and it has been a great car. It is > a > 97 SL2 and we have had minimal problems. Gets decent gas mileage, too. > > Hank > > > On 3/30/06, ed kroposki wrote: > > > > What is the collective wisdom and recommendation for a cheap used car? > > Specifically a car that is small, fuel efficient, safe to use around > town. > > This would not be a primary vehicle, but a knock around car that you do > > not > > have to worry about getting stolen or hit in a parking lot. > > > > Suggestions appreciated. > > > > Ed K > > Greenville, SC, USA > > ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From ekroposki at charter.net Fri Mar 31 05:03:07 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Fri Mar 31 08:03:12 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] cheap used cars - Zephyrus In-Reply-To: <001701c65492$80d15a40$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> References: <000001c6540a$2d862510$6500a8c0@user6m0z74bsst> <013801c65432$59c92410$86e2e183@D0NT244> <39c52f6f0603301534w6ffb840wba9264dcc33d37e6@mail.gmail.com> <001701c65492$80d15a40$6501a8c0@j7g1u2> Message-ID: <3688925.post@talk.nabble.com> Todd: You said, "(Toyota) has had zero problems except for a propensity to drive off snow covered highways (Hmmm, that may be do to issues beyond Toyota's control)." I suggest it may not be beyond Toyota's control. I am replacing a 95 Geo Prism. Toyota's design, and it has had noticeable steering control issues since I got it. This was very noticeable on wet pavement or snow. I wound up getting Goodyear wet road tires to help solve that issue. The aquatracks made a noticeable difference on slippery roads. However, I remain convinced that it is some sort of design issue. I replaced my Dodge van with a Ford 150 van. I would recommend the Ford 150 to all. While not as heavy as the 250 discussed elseware, it drives very well, excellant visability, and tows boats well. Stan and Elton are partial to the 350 series, and again I have towed with the 350 and rate it excellant. Due to impending competition, Ford has worked to improve its light trucks and while no experience with your Nissan, I would recommend the F-150 because of my comments above and its availability of service and parts after the initial purchase. It has a good history and is getting better. Since I use my van for other than towing, I looked long and hard for a good used one. I wound up with a small v-8, four speed auto with overdrive. This vehicle is not common, but offers long bed towing, a degree of fuel efficiency, and so far has been very comfortable to drive. Actually, noticeably more comfortable than Asian designed cars. The seating comfort and drive comfort as mentioned by Slim should definitely be considered. I have no experience with the Ford Explorer family of cars. Do they have the same comfort as the F150 series? Do other German designed cars have good comfort for driving? Any back aches with German cars like the Jetta? How about the Volvo? I can get the answer about the Volvo in family since there are several. However, they start expensive and are expensive to maintain. My son is on his second Honda. Good car record. At his age, comfort is not an issue. Again, thanks to all who have commented on this issue. Zephyrus, is that the word root for Zephyr? Now 'woosey west wind' has a nautical ring and a modern reference, www. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA ~~~~_/) ~~~~_/) ~~~~ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Non-Sailing-Question---cheap-used-cars-t1368966.html#a3688925 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From ekroposki at charter.net Fri Mar 31 06:40:56 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Fri Mar 31 09:41:03 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Todd Z, Bob Dobson, Rummy, Frank Moon, Ellner, Slim, Julie T In-Reply-To: <005f01c6542b$01f38020$6400a8c0@frankcomp> References: <005f01c6542b$01f38020$6400a8c0@frankcomp> Message-ID: <3690500.post@talk.nabble.com> Rummy: This guy might be related to you. He apparently is a Green Bay Wisconsin Cheese Head. He might even be a Packers fan? Todd Z or Bob D: Is this your neighbor? Ed K Greenville, SC USA -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-Wanted-t1372684.html#a3690500 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From R22RumRunner at aol.com Fri Mar 31 10:05:11 2006 From: R22RumRunner at aol.com (R22RumRunner@aol.com) Date: Fri Mar 31 10:05:19 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cheesehead alert. Message-ID: <33e.11fab14.315e9f27@aol.com> Ed, Yep, area code 920 is the Fox River Valley area. I wonder if he's going to sail on Lake Winnebago? It's a shallow lake that people say is to thick to drink and to thin to plow, but it's a good sailing lake. Most certainly he's a fellow cheesehead. Rummy From sugargroveumc at bright.net Fri Mar 31 10:46:00 2006 From: sugargroveumc at bright.net (Alan Brown) Date: Fri Mar 31 10:46:15 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Wanted In-Reply-To: <005f01c6542b$01f38020$6400a8c0@frankcomp> Message-ID: <200603311546.k2VFk3KD021641@hagus.bright.net> Frank, Where are you located? Peace, Alan -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Frank and Sherry Moon Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 1:52 PM To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Wanted I am interested in a used Rhodes 22. Any available? Thank you, Frank Moon 920-336-7170 __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From kooris at verizon.net Fri Mar 31 11:18:24 2006 From: kooris at verizon.net (Irv Kooris) Date: Fri Mar 31 11:14:37 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Wanted In-Reply-To: <200603311546.k2VFk3KD021641@hagus.bright.net> References: <200603311546.k2VFk3KD021641@hagus.bright.net> Message-ID: <442D5650.2060409@verizon.net> Alan Brown wrote: >Frank, >Where are you located? >Peace, >Alan > >-----Original Message----- >From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Frank and Sherry >Moon >Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 1:52 PM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Wanted > >I am interested in a used Rhodes 22. Any available? > >Thank you, >Frank Moon >920-336-7170 > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > > I am also interested in a Rhodes 22. I am located in Boston MA Irv From ellner at pressenter.com Fri Mar 31 10:40:52 2006 From: ellner at pressenter.com (Ellner) Date: Fri Mar 31 11:41:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Wanted In-Reply-To: <200603311546.k2VFk3KD021641@hagus.bright.net> References: <005f01c6542b$01f38020$6400a8c0@frankcomp> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20060331103944.03315e60@pop.pressenter.com> Frank: Looking at your area code; there WAS one for sale in the Sturgeon Bay, WI area......don't know if it is still available........Mary/Rod At 10:46 AM 3/31/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Frank, >Where are you located? >Peace, >Alan > >-----Original Message----- >From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Frank and Sherry >Moon >Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 1:52 PM >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Wanted > >I am interested in a used Rhodes 22. Any available? > >Thank you, >Frank Moon >920-336-7170 > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > >__________________________________________________ >Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list From JOESINNETT at aol.com Fri Mar 31 17:23:30 2006 From: JOESINNETT at aol.com (JOESINNETT@aol.com) Date: Fri Mar 31 17:23:40 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bradenton R22 Championship Regatta Message-ID: Luis, I am going to be in Tampa/Lakeland for the week of 4-3-06 to 4/7/06. If I had your number I'd call to see if we could meet for a beer and look at your boat and tell me about the area and why-if it's a good place to live. Thanks, joesinnett@aol.com From ekroposki at charter.net Fri Mar 31 16:09:57 2006 From: ekroposki at charter.net (Tootle) Date: Fri Mar 31 19:10:02 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] JOE SINNETT'S dreams of Regatta In-Reply-To: References: <1598147.1143428740190.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <86d894e60603281538x25ffa305y96770344ab74feb6@mail.gmail.com> <20060331003506.24853.qmail@web54510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3699070.post@talk.nabble.com> Joe, Going in April before the noseeums, biting flies, and hurricanes can give you a misinformed image. Consider Columbia, South Carolina where you have interesting politicians, good basketball teams, and nearby inland sailing lakes. Have you considered Lake Murray? On Santee Cooper you could fish and sail at the same time. So you want beer, consider taking a bottle of Rum and some Coke (the beverage) to Rummy and find out about sailing a Rhodes 22 on an inland sailing lake. Did you hear about Sunday's weather forcast for Lake Hartwell? Ed K Greenville, SC, USA ~~~~ _/) ~~~~ -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Bradenton-R22-Championship-Regatta-t1346877.html#a3699070 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com. From trpclman at yahoo.com Fri Mar 31 20:22:49 2006 From: trpclman at yahoo.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Fri Mar 31 23:22:52 2006 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bradenton R22 Championship Regatta In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060401042250.97814.qmail@web54509.mail.yahoo.com> Joe, My number is 941 228-8131. Give a call. JOESINNETT@aol.com wrote: Luis, I am going to be in Tampa/Lakeland for the week of 4-3-06 to 4/7/06. If I had your number I'd call to see if we could meet for a beer and look at your boat and tell me about the area and why-if it's a good place to live. Thanks, joesinnett@aol.com __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates.