[Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.

Fri Apr 6 16:02:10 EDT 2007

Last I heard, he was in DC talking to a lot of the GOP leadership.  I
suspect he'll announce in less than a month.

Hank

On 4/6/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wally,
>
> I really like Richardson but he's getting very little attention and money.
> Bayh won't run. Obama is inexperienced and is an unknown - maybe as a VP
> or
> the next time around. I dislike Edwards as much as Ms. Clinton but at
> least
> he's not as painful to look at - besides, he's an ambulance chaser. On the
> other side, I heard Mitt Romney give an interview the other night and
> liked
> what I heard.  Fred Thompson is the guy I want to run.  Rudy was a good
> mayor and Newt was a good House leader.  They need to end it there.
> Huckabee
> from Arkansas is OK too but no one's heard of him outside AR.
>
> Anyone but Hillary!  If she makes it I may check on our real estate in
> China
> a lot more often. Run Fred, PLEEEEASE!
>
> Brad
>
> On 4/6/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Brad, Hopefully she doesn't stand a chance but I must admit she has
> about
> > s
> > good a chance as anyone at this point. - Wally
> >
> >
> > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 14:29:49 -0600
> > >
> > >Wally,
> > >
> > >We have reached a point of agreement.  Hillary is a two-faced bitch!
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >On 4/5/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Brad,
> > > >
> > > > I didn't have a question and I would never ask you to do my
> research.
> > I
> > > > used
> > > > to read your links but quit years ago when I found they often didn't
> > >even
> > > > support what you were saying. I guess if your sole point is/was
> Hilary
> > >is
> > > > a
> > > > two faced bitch and Clinton fired all 93 and other presidents fired
> 80
> > >or
> > > > so
> > > > then you are correct. You are incorrect in stating that these
> firings
> > >were
> > > > usually done at end of term. My point is Clinton did not start mass
> > > > firings.
> > > >
> > > > One big difference now....Due to the Patriot Act Bush can replace
> > these
> > > > guys
> > > > without approval. As for the lie? It is fact that the administration
> > > > stated
> > > > they were fired for poor performance and not for political reasons.
> > That
> > > > sir
> > > > WAS a lie. What part of any of the above is not true?
> > > >
> > > > I still think they would have been much better off fessing up from
> the
> > >get
> > > > go. Just like I felt Clinton would have been better off saying "I
> did
> > >have
> > > > sex with that women....and others too". So as I have said in every
> > post
> > >on
> > > > this topic....this problem was more a matter of bad timing (half way
> > > > through
> > > > second term), and the BS response afterwards. Add an administration
> > with
> > >a
> > > > credibilty problem, toss in the Patriot Act loop-hole and things get
> a
> > > > little sticky.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding my sources....What I got off CNN was copies of actual
> emails
> > >and
> > > > PDFs of court transcript. They came up first but who cares?
> Regardless
> > >of
> > > > what web site one uses for the source of court docs the actual text
> > >should
> > > > be the same. I am not sure of your point in mentioning FOX verses
> CNN.
> > >Are
> > > > you disputing that these are actual transcipts? Facts, facts,
> > >facts....not
> > > > opinion.
> > > >
> > > > I agreed this should have been much ado about nothing and if fact
> said
> > >so.
> > > > I
> > > > am still not sure you realize this. For the most part this mess was
> > > > created
> > > > in the typical bumbling fashion we have come to expect from current
> > > > administration.
> > > >
> > > > Wally
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > > > >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 08:51:26 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > >Wally,
> > > > >
> > > > >Sorry, my ADHD is kicking in again.  Exactly what was your
> > question?  I
> > > > >believe it had something to do with "don't all incoming Presidents
> > fire
> > > > all
> > > > >the Federal Attorneys?  And my answer was, No.  Only Bill Clinton
> did
> > > > that
> > > > >in mass.  All the others replaced them when their terms expired
> with
> > > > >occasional mid term firings.  Use your skills on the DOJ website to
> > > > confirm
> > > > >that.  My only reason for mentioning the Clinton firings is to
> point
> > >out
> > > > >Hillary's amnesia.  ALL Federal Attorney appointments are political
> > so
> > >it
> > > > >is
> > > > >only reasonable to assume that their having been fired is also
> > >political
> > > > to
> > > > >whatever degree.  I am not wrong about the mass firings (in the
> last
> > > > forty
> > > > >years or so) and I refuse to do your homework. As to lying - could
> > you
> > >be
> > > > a
> > > > >bit more specific?  Using the word "performance" as a smoke screen
> > for
> > > > >having not followed the POTUS's desires is not lying.  Not
> > necessarily
> > > > good
> > > > >PR either, but not lying. Reading something on CNN is not
> fact.  You
> > >are
> > > > >welcome to throw out FOX News.  There, we're even. The fact that
> you
> > >read
> > > > >testimony and came up with an opinion is just that, your opinion.
> As
> > I
> > > > said
> > > > >earlier this morning, investigate the living shit out of this by
> all
> > > > means.
> > > > >I seriously doubt they'll find a smoking gun, but if they do,
> smoke'm
> > > > out.
> > > > >The gist of the complaints the White House had against those fired
> > was
> > > > >their
> > > > >pursuit (or lack of) of voter fraud and illegal immigration with
> one
> > > > >exception -  the one from Little Rock was shit-canned to make way
> for
> > > > >someone else as a political favor.  Welcome to the real world. If
> it
> > > > turns
> > > > >out that they were trying to cover for political corruption, take
> it
> > >all
> > > > >the
> > > > >way to impeachment.  Frankly, I think we're killing a lot of trees
> > over
> > > > >nothing. Gonzales may be rendered ineffective for a while or
> perhaps
> > > > >permanently.  Wasn't that the reason behind this non-scandal from
> the
> > > > >get-go?
> > > > >
> > > > >Brad
> > > > >
> > > > >On 4/5/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad, And you say you don't have a pair of rose colored
> > >glasses....As
> > > > > > usual
> > > > > > you never answered my question. I freely admitted I hadn't been
> > > > >following
> > > > > > this closely. This is not a matter of seeing what you or I want
> to
> > > > see.
> > > > >So
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > did a quick check and the facts are simple....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First you are wrong about mass AG firings starting will Clinton.
> A
> > > > quick
> > > > > > check does confirm that new Presidents have been firing AGs
> going
> > >back
> > > > >to
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > least Reagan. It looks like Carter and good old Ike had some
> > firings
> > > > as
> > > > > > well
> > > > > > but nothing like the mass numbers since Reagan. Nixon had his
> own
> > > > issues
> > > > > > with AGs. Since Reagan it has been routine for 80 or more AGs to
> > be
> > > > > > dismissed with-in the first 2 years of President's term. Poor
> old
> > > > > > Bill....people just love to blame him for everything. LOL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The issue seems to be more a matter of timing, motivation, and
> the
> > > > > > administration's BS response to the public. The reasons cited
> for
> > > > > > dismissals
> > > > > > was "poor performance". A quick review of the facts shows this
> was
> > >not
> > > > > > true.
> > > > > > Internal Emails and pdfs of recent testimony are all on line.
> > It  is
> > > > >also
> > > > > > clear these firings were discussed with Gonzales prior to
> Gonzales
> > > > > > becoming
> > > > > > AG. It is also clear that the AG provided misleading information
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > Senate. It is also clear the the administration wanted to fire
> the
> > >AG
> > > > >over
> > > > > > Libby trial.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This might have been much ado about nothing if they didn't
> > initially
> > > > >fire
> > > > > > the AGs and then follow up with annouincement that this was do
> to
> > >poor
> > > > > > performance. Of course the fired AGs complained. Wouldn't you?
> > Being
> > > > >fired
> > > > > > is bad enough but go ahead and tell the world the real reason
> not
> > a
> > > > lie.
> > > > > > This administration has a history of providing bad information.
> > Why
> > > > our
> > > > > > President's ratings aren't even lower is beyond me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Google is your friend. My sources.. Justive Department site,
> WIKI,
> > >and
> > > > > > CNN.
> > > > > > Note CNN and WIKI provided the link to actual emails and PDFs of
> > > > > > testimony.
> > > > > > I did not read any editorials....I want facts not opinions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No spin Brad. Kind of like Dragnet...nothing but the facts. If I
> > >have
> > > > >the
> > > > > > facts wrong set me straight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wally
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > > > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 15:37:30 -0500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Wally,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >You see what you want to see.  This is much to do about
> nothing!
> > >Do
> > > > >your
> > > > > > >homework and prove me wrong.  The facts are what they are, your
> > >spin
> > > > >sir.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Brad
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >On 4/4/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brad,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What?.....This editorial really doesn't address the coment
> in
> > my
> > > > > > > > email.....I
> > > > > > > > will do some checking but I think you are wrong about this
> > > > starting
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > Clinton. I don't think anyone is saying that Clinto did not
> > fire
> > > > >AGs.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > don't think it started with the Clinton's. You post doesn't
> > shed
> > > > any
> > > > > > >light
> > > > > > > > in either direction. - Wally
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >
> > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:08:47 -0500
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Wally,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >This is a 'tempest in a teapot', something, anything, to
> run
> > > > > > >interference
> > > > > > > > >during the last two years of a lame duck Presidency.  Here
> is
> > >an
> > > > > > > > editorial
> > > > > > > > >from the WSJ on the subject.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Brad
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >---------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >*The Hubbell Standard*
> > > > > > > > >Hillary Clinton knows all about sacking U.S. Attorneys.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >*Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:01 a.m.*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Congressional Democrats are in full cry over the news this
> > week
> > > > >that
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >Administration's decision to fire eight U.S. Attorneys
> > >originated
> > > > > > > > >from--gasp--the White House. Senator Hillary Clinton joined
> > the
> > > > fun
> > > > > > > > >yesterday, blaming President Bush for "the politicization
> of
> > >our
> > > > > > > > >prosecutorial system." Oh, my.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >As it happens, Mrs. Clinton is just the Senator to walk
> point
> > >on
> > > > >this
> > > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > >of dismissing U.S. attorneys because she has direct
> personal
> > > > > > >experience.
> > > > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > >any Congressional probe of the matter, we'd suggest she
> call
> > > > >herself
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >first witness--and bring along Webster Hubbell as her chief
> > > > >counsel.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >As everyone once knew but has tried to forget, Mr. Hubbell
> > was
> > >a
> > > > > > former
> > > > > > > > >partner of Mrs. Clinton at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock
> > who
> > > > >later
> > > > > > > > went
> > > > > > > > >to jail for mail fraud and tax evasion. He was also Bill
> and
> > > > >Hillary
> > > > > > > > >Clinton's choice as Associate Attorney General in the
> Justice
> > > > > > >Department
> > > > > > > > >when Janet Reno, his nominal superior, simultaneously fired
> > all
> > > > 93
> > > > > > U.S.
> > > > > > > > >Attorneys in March 1993. Ms. Reno--or Mr. Hubbell--gave
> them
> > 10
> > > > >days
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >move
> > > > > > > > >out of their offices.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >At the time, President Clinton presented the move as
> > something
> > > > > > >perfectly
> > > > > > > > >ordinary: "All those people are routinely replaced," he
> told
> > > > > > reporters,
> > > > > > > > >"and
> > > > > > > > >I have not done anything differently." In fact, the
> > dismissals
> > > > were
> > > > > > > > >unprecedented: Previous Presidents, including Ronald Reagan
> > and
> > > > >Jimmy
> > > > > > > > >Carter, had both retained holdovers from the previous
> > > > >Administration
> > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > >only replaced them gradually as their tenures expired. This
> > > > allowed
> > > > > > > > >continuity of leadership within the U.S. Attorney offices
> > >during
> > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >transition.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Equally extraordinary were the politics at play in the
> > firings.
> > > > At
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >time,
> > > > > > > > >Jay Stephens, then U.S. Attorney in the District of
> Columbia,
> > >was
> > > > > > > > >investigating then Ways and Means Chairman Dan
> Rostenkowski,
> > >and
> > > > >was
> > > > > > > > >"within
> > > > > > > > >30 days" of making a decision on an indictment. Mr.
> > >Rostenkowski,
> > > > >who
> > > > > > >was
> > > > > > > > >shepherding the Clinton's economic program through
> Congress,
> > > > > > eventually
> > > > > > > > >went
> > > > > > > > >to jail on mail fraud charges and was later pardoned by Mr.
> > > > >Clinton.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Also at the time, allegations concerning some of the
> > Clintons'
> > > > > > >Whitewater
> > > > > > > > >dealings were coming to a head. By dismissing all 93 U.S.
> > > > Attorneys
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > >once,
> > > > > > > > >the Clintons conveniently cleared the decks to appoint
> > "Friend
> > >of
> > > > > > Bill"
> > > > > > > > >Paula Casey as the U.S. Attorney for Little Rock. Ms. Casey
> > >never
> > > > >did
> > > > > > > > bring
> > > > > > > > >any big Whitewater indictments, and she rejected
> information
> > >from
> > > > > > >another
> > > > > > > > >FOB, David Hale, on the business practices of the Arkansas
> > >elite
> > > > > > > > including
> > > > > > > > >Mr. Clinton. When it comes to "politicizing" Justice, in
> > short,
> > > > the
> > > > > > >Bush
> > > > > > > > >White House is full of amateurs compared to the Clintons.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  And it may be this very amateurism that explains how the
> > > > current
> > > > > > > > >Administration has managed to turn this routine issue of
> > > > replacing
> > > > > > > > >Presidential appointees into a political fiasco. There was
> > > > nothing
> > > > > > >wrong
> > > > > > > > >with replacing the eight Attorneys, all of whom serve at
> the
> > > > > > >President's
> > > > > > > > >pleasure. Prosecutors deserve supervision like any other
> > > > executive
> > > > > > >branch
> > > > > > > > >appointees.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >The supposed scandal this week is that Mr. Bush had been
> > >informed
> > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > fall
> > > > > > > > >that some U.S. Attorneys had been less than vigorous in
> > >pursuing
> > > > > > > > >voter-fraud
> > > > > > > > >cases and that the President had made the point to Attorney
> > > > General
> > > > > > > > Alberto
> > > > > > > > >Gonzales. Voter fraud strikes at the heart of democratic
> > > > > > institutions,
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >it was entirely appropriate for Mr. Bush--or any
> > President--to
> > > > >insist
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >his appointees act energetically against it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Take sacked U.S. Attorney John McKay from Washington state.
> > In
> > > > >2004,
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >Governor's race was decided in favor of Democrat Christine
> > > > Gregoire
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > 129
> > > > > > > > >votes on a third recount. As the Seattle Post-Intelligencer
> > and
> > > > >other
> > > > > > > > media
> > > > > > > > >outlets reported, some of the "voters" were deceased,
> others
> > >were
> > > > > > > > >registered
> > > > > > > > >in storage-rental facilities, and still others were
> convicted
> > > > >felons.
> > > > > > > > More
> > > > > > > > >than 100 ballots were "discovered" in a Seattle warehouse.
> > None
> > > > of
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > >constitutes proof that the election was stolen. But it
> should
> > > > have
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > >enough to prompt Mr. McKay, a Democrat, to investigate,
> > >something
> > > > >he
> > > > > > > > >declined to do, apparently on grounds that he had better
> > things
> > > > to
> > > > > > do.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >In New Mexico, another state in which recent elections have
> > >been
> > > > > > >decided
> > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > >razor thin margins, U.S. Attorney David Iglesias did
> > establish
> > >a
> > > > > > voter
> > > > > > > > >fraud
> > > > > > > > >task force in 2004. But it lasted all of 10 weeks before
> > >closing
> > > > >its
> > > > > > > > doors,
> > > > > > > > >despite evidence of irregularities by the likes of the
> > > > Association
> > > > >of
> > > > > > > > >Community Organizations for Reform Now, or Acorn. As our
> John
> > > > Fund
> > > > > > > > reported
> > > > > > > > >at the time, Acorn's director Matt Henderson refused to
> > answer
> > > > > > >questions
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >court about whether his group had illegally made copies of
> > >voter
> > > > > > > > >registration cards in the run-up to the 2004 election.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  As for some of the other fired Attorneys, at least one of
> > >their
> > > > > > > > >dismissals
> > > > > > > > >seemed to owe to differences with the Administration about
> > the
> > > > >death
> > > > > > > > >penalty, another to questions about the Attorney's
> managerial
> > > > >skills.
> > > > > > >Not
> > > > > > > > >surprisingly, the dismissed Attorneys are insisting their
> > > > >dismissals
> > > > > > >were
> > > > > > > > >unfair, and perhaps in some cases they were. It would not
> be
> > >the
> > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > >in history that a dismissed employee did not take kindly to
> > his
> > > > > > firing,
> > > > > > > > nor
> > > > > > > > >would it be the first in which an employer sacked the wrong
> > > > person.
> > > > > > No
> > > > > > > > >question, the Justice Department and White House have
> botched
> > >the
> > > > > > > > handling
> > > > > > > > >of this issue from start to finish. But what we don't have
> > here
> > > > is
> > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > >serious evidence that the Administration has acted
> improperly
> > >or
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > protect
> > > > > > > > >some of its friends. If Democrats want to understand what a
> > >real
> > > > > > abuse
> > > > > > >of
> > > > > > > > >power looks like, they can always ask the junior Senator
> from
> > >New
> > > > > > York.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >On 4/4/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Brad,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Of course the AGs serve at the President's descrection
> > >however
> > > > I
> > > > > > >think
> > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > might be wrong about the firings/replacement starting
> with
> > > > > > Clinton.
> > > > > > >I
> > > > > > > > > > thought the AG firings started at least as far back as
> > >Reagan
> > > > >and
> > > > > > >was
> > > > > > > > >then
> > > > > > > > > > followed by Bush and Clinton. I thought W's issues have
> > more
> > > > to
> > > > >do
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > timing....if he would of done this in the first year or
> so
> > >it
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > merely followed precedent ...by waiting he left the door
> > >open
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > criticism.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Wally
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of politicians.
> > > > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:26:04 -0600
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Wally,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >AG's serve at the President's discretion.  Clinton
> > >wholesale
> > > > > > > > replacing
> > > > > > > > > > ALL
> > > > > > > > > > >of them at once was a first. The press at the time
> barely
> > > > > > mentioned
> > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > >Bush
> > > > > > > > > > >replaced 8 out of almost 100.  Big deal.  This is a
> huge
> > > > > > non-story
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >ranks right up there with the one about whats-her-name
> > >dying,
> > > > >you
> > > > > > > > know
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >one, that blonde chick with the big hooters.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >I've been tied down with airplane hangar issues and
> taxes
> > >but
> > > > > > plan
> > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > >get
> > > > > > > > > > >on
> > > > > > > > > > >the lake soon.  I haven't bothered to look and see if
> the
> > > > front
> > > > > > >that
> > > > > > > > > > passed
> > > > > > > > > > >here last night has made it past you, but it is chilly
> > this
> > > > > > >morning.
> > > > > > > > >At
> > > > > > > > > > >least there's some wind.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Brad
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >On 4/4/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The sailing here has been great the last few
> > days!!!  I
> > > > have
> > > > > > >been
> > > > > > > > > > trying
> > > > > > > > > > > > NOT
> > > > > > > > > > > > to follow the AG firings but doesn't every President
> > do
> > > > the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > >thing
> > > > > > > > > > > > Clinton did? I thought this was pretty standard when
> a
> > >new
> > > > > > pres
> > > > > > > > came
> > > > > > > > > > > > in.....this may be a matter of bad timing? Wally
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Speaking of
> politicians.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 07:29:24 -0600
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Rummy,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Speaking of amnesia, last Sunday we had George
> > > > >Stephanopoulos
> > > > > > >on
> > > > > > > > >his
> > > > > > > > > > >ABC
> > > > > > > > > > > > >news show discussing the firing of eight Attorney
> > > > Generals,
> > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > > non-event
> > > > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > > > >there ever was one, and little Georgie keeps a
> > straight
> > > > >face
> > > > > > > > >through
> > > > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >whole thing.  What a fine piece of acting.  Did
> > George
> > > > >share
> > > > > > >his
> > > > > > > > > > > > experience
> > > > > > > > > > > > >as spokesperson for the Clinton administration
> > >explaining
> > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >firing
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > >all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >every single friggin' AG in the US, including the
> one
> > >in
> > > > > > Little
> > > > > > > > >Rock
> > > > > > > > > > > > >investigating Whitewater?  No, he continued on,
> sure
> > >that
> > > > > > most
> > > > > > >of
> > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >country is too stupid to know or care. He was
> right.
> > >Want
> > > > >to
> > > > > > >know
> > > > > > > > >how
> > > > > > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > > > > > >press coverage that got when it happened?  About 20
> > > > seconds
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > > network.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Fair and balanced?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Brad
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >On 4/4/07, R22RumRunner at aol.com <
> R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > >
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Breaking News
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientists Study Memory Loss Among Politicians
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Near-amnesia Reaching Epidemic Proportions,
> > > > Experts  Say
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > An "unprecedented epidemic of memory loss" is
> > > > > > > > > > afflicting  America's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > politicians, making it virtually impossible for
> > them
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > >remember
> > > > > > > > > > >key
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > phone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > conversations, meetings, and memos, a
> > spokesman  for
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > world's
> > > > > > > > > > > > leading
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > brain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > scientists said today.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The  spokesman, Dr. Hiroshi Kyosuke of the
> > >University
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > Tokyo,
> > > > > > > > >is
> > > > > > > > > > >one
> > > > > > > > > > > > >of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > over four hundred eminent brain scientists who
> > have
> > > > > > gathered
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > >Oslo,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Norway
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this week for a high-level research conference
> to
> > > > > > probe  the
> > > > > > > > > > recent
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > phenomenon
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of memory loss that has plagued the nation's
> > > > >politicians.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The question at hand is this: why
> > are  politicians
> > >so
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > >at
> > > > > > > > > > > > >remembering
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > contributors' names and phone  numbers but so
> bad
> > at
> > > > > > > > remembering
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything else?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Dr. Kyosuke  said.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the course of the conference, brain
> > scientists
> > > > >have
> > > > > > > > > > presented
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > research
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > papers on a variety of subjects related
> to  memory
> > > > loss,
> > > > > > >such
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > former
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > New
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > York mayor Rudolph Giuliani's  inability to
> > remember
> > >a
> > > > > > > > briefing
> > > > > > > > >he
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > received
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > about former police  commissioner Bernard
> Kerik's
> > > > >possible
> > > > > > > > ties
> > > > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > organized
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > crime.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "That seems like the sort of thing that a normal
> > >human
> > > > > > > > > > brain  would
> > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulty remembering," Dr. Kyosuke said. "What
> > > > we  are
> > > > > > > > >learning
> > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > >this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > conference is that when it comes
> to  politicians'
> > > > >brains,
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > >much
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > more to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > learn."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On  Monday, a full day of the conference was
> > devoted
> > > > to
> > > > >a
> > > > > > > > paper
> > > > > > > > > > > > >entitled,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Neuroscience of Scooter Libby," followed by
> a
> > > > >keynote
> > > > > > > > >address
> > > > > > > > > > > > given
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > While  many attendees considered Mr. Gonzales'
> > >speech
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > >highpoint
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > conference, the Attorney General offered a
> > different
> > > > > > > > assessment:
> > > > > > > > > > "I
> > > > > > > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > recollection of it."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elsewhere, President Bush said  he would devote
> > the
> > > > > > >remainder
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > > > >term
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