[Rhodes22-list] More on GPS

Mon Apr 9 09:41:17 EDT 2007

Wally,

There in lies the rub.  The Federal government would get the money.  If they
spend it on entitlement programs we haven't achieved much.  If we pay off
debt then the idea works.  The Saudi's pretty much control the world price
of oil, they just open the spigots if it gets too high and alternatives like
biodiesel start to look attractive.  That's somewhat of an oversimplication
but pretty much how it works.  The only way US consumers will change habits
is if it gets painful at the pump.  Europe, China, and the rest of the
industrialized world pay substantially more for gasoline than we do.
Considering current average family income versus historic prices for
gasoline, we're getting by very cheap.  I hate government meddling in
markets but this is a national defense issue.  We're as addicted to OPEC
providing cheap oil as the Chinese were to the Brits providing opium.

Brad

On 4/9/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> So we raise the price a gas to $4 from $3...who gets the extra dollar? -
> Wally
>
>
> >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] More on GPS
> >Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 10:56:29 -0500
> >
> >Wally,
> >
> >The good (well kinda good) news is that the recent Supreme Court decision
> >that allows the EPA to regulate CO2 emissions means a whole new wave of
> >lawsuits is coming from the environmentalists.  Perhaps the unintended
> >consequences is that nuclear starts to look really, really, good.  I
> think
> >the science behind global warming is dubious, the press is only
> presenting
> >the worst side of the issue, and the world community wants to punish the
> US
> >economically.  Since the UN, EU, NATO, and other multi-national
> >organizations can't seem to police anything else, what makes people think
> >they can police CO2 emissions?  If global warming is what it takes to
> >convince the US that we need to lower our dependence on foreign oil, I'll
> >start preaching global warming even though I think the whole thing is a
> >crock of shit.  You want less carbon emissions - tax them!  Make the CAFE
> >standard 40mpg in ten years (we could do that in one year but it would
> kill
> >Detroit - already on life support).  Make gasoline cost a minimum of $4
> per
> >gallon (we've been at $3 per gallon and it didn't kill the economy).  We
> >hear all the politicians from both sides mouth about solutions to global
> >warming, but no one has the guts to level with the population about what
> >the
> >personal costs in money and lifestyle will be as a result.  Get some
> 'nads'
> >Washington!  Let's Roll!
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >On 4/8/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > John, Interesting read...How long was the system "down". The article
> > > didn't
> > > seem to mention if it was just a few minutes or hours. I was just
> > > wondering???
> > >
> > > Brad, Every now and then we agree! The Sun!....You know some say it is
> >due
> > > to variations in the wobble of the spinning earth. These same wobbles
> >are
> > > also thought by many to have caused various heating and cooling cycles
> > > over
> > > the earth's history. Maybe increase in population in India and China
> are
> > > the
> > > cause?
> > >
> > > Slight variations in angle can make a difference. We all remember
> > > lightning
> > > fires with magnifying glass when we were kids right?....Get the angle
> >just
> > > right and the glass would burn your brothers arm or small insect very
> > > quickly. Change the angle and nothing. That glass didn't work to well
> on
> > > cloudy days though....so maybe air pollution would reduce global
> warming
> > > because it can create a nice shade? :-)
> > >
> > > I heard the problem is caused by trrapped gases creating greenhouse
> > > effect.
> > > So maybe if we had a bigger hole in the ozone these bad gasses would
> not
> > > be
> > > trapped anymore...just kidding about all this. :-) Heck I don't know
> who
> > > to
> > > believe. We do need to find some clean energy and quit fouling our
> nest.
> > > If
> > > our land, air and water are clean we and our food chain will be ok.
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] More on GPS
> > > >Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 10:59:58 -0500
> > > >
> > > >John,
> > > >
> > > >Interesting article!  In the early 90's I flew the polar route from
> > > >Anchorage, AK to Prestwick, Scotland and then on to London about once
> >or
> > > so
> > > >a month.  I never made it to 90 North (the Northern most route) but
> >flew
> > > >the
> > > >85N route several times.  Twice, the sun flares were so bad that our
> HF
> > > >radios didn't work.  We flew radio silent for 9 hours from Point
> >Barrow,
> > > AK
> > > >to coast in at Scotland with the exception of a VHF check-in at Alert
> >and
> > > >Thule.  We had inertial nav so navigation wasn't an issue.  The
> whiskey
> > > >compass would just spin.  Now here's a question, isn't it possible
> that
> > > >'global warming' is a function of the sun and not so much mankind?
> > > >
> > > >Brad
> > > >
> > > >On 4/7/07, John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Even though technology is my business (or maybe because of it),
> I've
> > > > > learned not to become too dependent on it.  It's wonderful
> stuff...
> > > > > while it works.  Regarding GPS specifically, you may want to read
> > > > > this article on the effect solar activity is having on our GPS
> > > > > system.  Especially as we approach a solar maximum in 2011.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/04/05/gps.solar.ap/index.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > John Lock
> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> > > > > Lake Sinclair, GA
> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >What is easy and reliable in virtually all  boating
> > > > > >circumstances is GPS - it will tell you where you are and how to
> >get
> > > > > >to  where you want
> > > > > >to go.  Virtually all our navigation, apart from piloting in
> > > >constrained
> > > > > and
> > > > > >familiar waterways (e.g. approaches to our marina),  is  done
> with
> > > >GPS.
> > > > >
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