[Rhodes22-list] Don Imus

Sun Apr 15 18:18:06 EDT 2007

Three columns in the Washington Post Outlook section
today provide interesting reading...

One by Joe R. Hicks:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041302089.html

By Johnetta Rose Barras:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041302054.html

and karen Henretty
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041301856.html

(these are all linked from the Hicks page.

They'll either add enlightenment or fuel to this
discussion.

elle

--- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:

> By going after Imus, all Al Sharpton and Jessie
> Jackson did was cause
> people to have to choose sides.  They are took an
> ignorant, insignificant
> comment made by a foolish white shock jock and
> turned it into fighting
> words. How can a white person defend what Imus said?
>  He can't!  But
> after all of the trouble Sharpton and Jackson
> whipped up, he won't risk
> commenting.  But now there is a sense of need to
> circle the wagons and
> fight the battle those two so-called Reverends have
> started.   This is
> how Jackson and Sharpton justify their own
> existence....cause a frenzy,
> then publicly calm the storm and/or mediate to make
> it appear as Blacks
> have won another battle.  The only Blacks winning
> are those two by lining
> their pockets from the false support they stir up in
> the Black
> community.  If a tree falls in the woods, does it
> make a noise? No, and
> nobody profits from it either.  Jackson and Sharpton
> do not jump onto
> bandwagons...they ARE the bandwagons.
> 
> Jason Whitlock may be playing to a white audience,
> but his argument makes
> a lot more sense than Al Sharpton's.  Al and Jessie
> trump this, and any
> other issue they can, up into a national media witch
> hunt for their own
> gain and fame.  They make their money by claiming to
> be helping the Black
> community and Black causes and empowering Blacks but
> they do so by
> putting them into the roles of victims.  They take
> their pride and self
> worth and turn it into anger.    There is no
> possible positive outcome
> from the trouble Al Sharpton started....unless you
> consider Don Imus
> getting fired a plus. What about the female
> basketball players?  Dom Imus
> didn't steal their thunder--Al Sharpton did!    
> Jason Whitlock makes
> much more sense. Regardless of who is too young to
> not remember the civil
> right movement and marches of the sixties, it makes
> alot more sense to
> ignor what someone else says about you.  When it
> comes right down to it,
> what Imus said doesn't matter and these female
> basketball players
> shouldn't let Imus define who they are.  They went
> from educated,
> championship contenders to "nappy headed hos" not
> because Imus said it,
> but because Al Sharpton turned them into victims. 
> Al Sharpton and Jessis
> Jackson are racists and do more to fuel racism and
> discrimination than
> they do to solve these problems.
> 
> Todd T
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Joseph Hadzima"
>   To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>   Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Don Imus
>   Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 07:46:51 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> 
>   Regarding the double standard ...
> 
>   yes and no!
> 
>   THESE specific women basketball team members were
> singled
>   out. There is no information on what music these
> women
>   like. So we can't say they deserve to be called
> anything.
>   In fact THEY were offended, the rest of the noise
> (e.g.
>   Rev. Jackson, et al) just wanted to hop on to the
> band
>   wagon, and be heard (after the Imus was fired,
> Jackson
>   still wants to hold his march to CBS).
> 
>   I also believe there is a tad more to the story ..
> the
>   conversation (not just the single sentence from
> Imus) said
>   things like the TN team were "cute", and other
> remarks
>   which were unflatering to the NJ team. Those
> remarks I'm
>   sure did even more to hurt their feelings.
> 
>   It was NOT a GENERAL remark, it was directed to a
> specific
>   team. When the MC at a MTV Spring Break show
> welcomes the
>   "bitches" to Spring Break Mexico, they are not
> specifically
>   refering to "all the girls from "WhatsAmatter U",
> but any
>   in the croud that wish to identify themselfs with
> the
>   remark. No one is up in arms (many of these women
> are not
>   black, and neither is the MC of the show - so it's
> not just
>   the Black RAP community that is at fault).
> 
>   Anyone remember when it was totally un cool to
> refer to
>   females over 16 as girls? they were either women,
> or young
>   women, sometimes a male could get away with
> calling a goup
>   "ladies" if the average age was over 40 ... maybe.
> Where
>   is NOW now? Are they okay with this?
> 
>   As for the true part of the double standard. The
> irony is
>   that the black community fought very hard for
> total
>   integration many years ago, and now that some
> white folk
>   embrace some of the same cultural atributes (think
> America
>   the melting pot) in the burbs it is some how
> wrong.
> 
>   So IMHO, I believe some of this outrage is a good
> thing,
>   even Rev. Sharpton said there needs to be more
> outrage
>   towards some RAP and commics. But as far as Imus
> goes, he
>   did insult a specific group of talented
> indivduals, and
>   deserved at least the 2 week suspention.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   HADZ (a.k.a. joe)
> 
>   "Did you know...that when you walk past a flower,
> whether it be in
>   somebody's garden or on a vacant hillside, the
> flower will always
>   smile at you. The most polite way to respond, I've
> been told, is
>   to cheerfully return the smile."
>   --Ron Atchison
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