[Rhodes22-list] Don Imus

elle watermusic38 at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 15 20:36:23 EDT 2007


Interesting column...now someone will toss the
match...

On a lighter note:

Did anyone recognize the poem he parodied in the 
title?:(Imus go down to the idiocy again...)  It is a
famous nautical ode...

(Prize to the first one who gets it....!)

elle


--- Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Elle, here's another gallon of gasoline. 
> Brad
> 
>
http://www.suntimes.com/news/steyn/341037,CST-EDT-steyn15.article
> 
> On 4/15/07, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Three columns in the Washington Post Outlook
> section
> > today provide interesting reading...
> >
> > One by Joe R. Hicks:
> >
> >
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041302089.html
> >
> > By Johnetta Rose Barras:
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041302054.html
> >
> > and karen Henretty
> >
> >
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041301856.html
> >
> > (these are all linked from the Hicks page.
> >
> > They'll either add enlightenment or fuel to this
> > discussion.
> >
> > elle
> >
> >
> > --- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > By going after Imus, all Al Sharpton and Jessie
> > > Jackson did was cause
> > > people to have to choose sides.  They are took
> an
> > > ignorant, insignificant
> > > comment made by a foolish white shock jock and
> > > turned it into fighting
> > > words. How can a white person defend what Imus
> said?
> > >  He can't!  But
> > > after all of the trouble Sharpton and Jackson
> > > whipped up, he won't risk
> > > commenting.  But now there is a sense of need to
> > > circle the wagons and
> > > fight the battle those two so-called Reverends
> have
> > > started.   This is
> > > how Jackson and Sharpton justify their own
> > > existence....cause a frenzy,
> > > then publicly calm the storm and/or mediate to
> make
> > > it appear as Blacks
> > > have won another battle.  The only Blacks
> winning
> > > are those two by lining
> > > their pockets from the false support they stir
> up in
> > > the Black
> > > community.  If a tree falls in the woods, does
> it
> > > make a noise? No, and
> > > nobody profits from it either.  Jackson and
> Sharpton
> > > do not jump onto
> > > bandwagons...they ARE the bandwagons.
> > >
> > > Jason Whitlock may be playing to a white
> audience,
> > > but his argument makes
> > > a lot more sense than Al Sharpton's.  Al and
> Jessie
> > > trump this, and any
> > > other issue they can, up into a national media
> witch
> > > hunt for their own
> > > gain and fame.  They make their money by
> claiming to
> > > be helping the Black
> > > community and Black causes and empowering Blacks
> but
> > > they do so by
> > > putting them into the roles of victims.  They
> take
> > > their pride and self
> > > worth and turn it into anger.    There is no
> > > possible positive outcome
> > > from the trouble Al Sharpton started....unless
> you
> > > consider Don Imus
> > > getting fired a plus. What about the female
> > > basketball players?  Dom Imus
> > > didn't steal their thunder--Al Sharpton did!
> > > Jason Whitlock makes
> > > much more sense. Regardless of who is too young
> to
> > > not remember the civil
> > > right movement and marches of the sixties, it
> makes
> > > alot more sense to
> > > ignor what someone else says about you.  When it
> > > comes right down to it,
> > > what Imus said doesn't matter and these female
> > > basketball players
> > > shouldn't let Imus define who they are.  They
> went
> > > from educated,
> > > championship contenders to "nappy headed hos"
> not
> > > because Imus said it,
> > > but because Al Sharpton turned them into
> victims.
> > > Al Sharpton and Jessis
> > > Jackson are racists and do more to fuel racism
> and
> > > discrimination than
> > > they do to solve these problems.
> > >
> > > Todd T
> > >
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: "Joseph Hadzima"
> > >   To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > >   Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Don Imus
> > >   Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 07:46:51 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >
> > >   Regarding the double standard ...
> > >
> > >   yes and no!
> > >
> > >   THESE specific women basketball team members
> were
> > > singled
> > >   out. There is no information on what music
> these
> > > women
> > >   like. So we can't say they deserve to be
> called
> > > anything.
> > >   In fact THEY were offended, the rest of the
> noise
> > > (e.g.
> > >   Rev. Jackson, et al) just wanted to hop on to
> the
> > > band
> > >   wagon, and be heard (after the Imus was fired,
> > > Jackson
> > >   still wants to hold his march to CBS).
> > >
> > >   I also believe there is a tad more to the
> story ..
> > > the
> > >   conversation (not just the single sentence
> from
> > > Imus) said
> > >   things like the TN team were "cute", and other
> > > remarks
> > >   which were unflatering to the NJ team. Those
> > > remarks I'm
> > >   sure did even more to hurt their feelings.
> > >
> > >   It was NOT a GENERAL remark, it was directed
> to a
> > > specific
> > >   team. When the MC at a MTV Spring Break show
> > > welcomes the
> > >   "bitches" to Spring Break Mexico, they are not
> > > specifically
> > >   refering to "all the girls from "WhatsAmatter
> U",
> > > but any
> > >   in the croud that wish to identify themselfs
> with
> > > the
> > >   remark. No one is up in arms (many of these
> women
> > > are not
> > >   black, and neither is the MC of the show - so
> it's
> > > not just
> > >   the Black RAP community that is at fault).
> > >
> > >   Anyone remember when it was totally un cool to
> > > refer to
> > >   females over 16 as girls? they were either
> women,
> > > or young
> > >   women, sometimes a male could get away with
> > > calling a goup
> > >   "ladies" if the average age was over 40 ...
> maybe.
> > > Where
> > >   is NOW now? Are they okay with this?
> > >
> > >   As for the true part of the double standard.
> The
> > > irony is
> > >   that the black community fought very hard for
> > > total
> > >   integration many years ago, and now that some
> > > white folk
> > >   embrace some of the same cultural atributes
> (think
> > > America
> > >   the melting pot) in the burbs it is some how
> > > wrong.
> > >
> > >   So IMHO, I believe some of this outrage is a
> good
> > > thing,
> > >   even Rev. Sharpton said there needs to be more
> > > outrage
> > >   towards some RAP and commics. But as far as
> Imus
> > > goes, he
> > >   did insult a specific group of talented
> > > indivduals, and
> > >   deserved at least the 2 week suspention.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   HADZ (a.k.a. joe)
> > >
> > >   "Did you know...that when you walk past a
> flower,
> > > whether it be in
> > >   somebody's garden or on a vacant hillside, the
> > > flower will always
> > >   smile at you. The most polite way to respond,
> I've
> > > been told, is
> > >   to cheerfully return the smile."
> > >   --Ron Atchison
> > >  
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> >
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