[Rhodes22-list] Don Imus
elle
watermusic38 at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 16 10:38:57 EDT 2007
Wally,
Unfortunately, (or forunately, in this case) "show me
the money" has always been the operative
condition...if Snoop can make legit $$ going
mainstream (or at least veering slightly in that
direction) then that may be an indicator that a change
may be forthcoming in the rap climate..
Did anyone see "Breakfast with the Arts" yesterday AM
on A& E? They had two black violinists dressed as
rappers with the do-rags & hats etc...they explained
that they changed their looks for the attention
factor..no one paid attention to two black violinists
until the contrast between the 'rapper' image & their
music got peoples' attention.
But they were good...and fun to listen to.
elle
--- TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Elle, Interesting and for the most part I agree.
> Hopefully the article that
> mentioned popularity numbers for Sharpton and
> Jackson is correct. It would
> be nice if this would have a positive ending....if
> the money/people walked
> away from abusive rap lyrics the trash talk would
> stop pretty quick.
>
> Have you heard.....Snoop Dog is now in a Chrysler ad
> with no less than Lee
> Iaccoa (sp?). Snoop is known for rapping about
> pimpin and smokin the Chronic
> (high test Pot). He is an ex-con former gang member
> and he is hugely popular
> with young America both male and female. Heck I know
> who the hell he is and
> I am 47 years old. I wonder if Snoop will continue
> to get these type of
> deals? Note: Snoop was good as the Pimp Huggy Bear
> in recent remake of
> Starsky and Hutch. :-)
>
> Wally
>
>
> >From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Don Imus
> >Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 15:18:06 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Three columns in the Washington Post Outlook
> section
> >today provide interesting reading...
> >
> >One by Joe R. Hicks:
>
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041302089.html
> >
> >By Johnetta Rose Barras:
> >
>
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041302054.html
> >
> >and karen Henretty
>
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041301856.html
> >
> >(these are all linked from the Hicks page.
> >
> >They'll either add enlightenment or fuel to this
> >discussion.
> >
> >elle
> >
> >
> >--- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > By going after Imus, all Al Sharpton and Jessie
> > > Jackson did was cause
> > > people to have to choose sides. They are took
> an
> > > ignorant, insignificant
> > > comment made by a foolish white shock jock and
> > > turned it into fighting
> > > words. How can a white person defend what Imus
> said?
> > > He can't! But
> > > after all of the trouble Sharpton and Jackson
> > > whipped up, he won't risk
> > > commenting. But now there is a sense of need to
> > > circle the wagons and
> > > fight the battle those two so-called Reverends
> have
> > > started. This is
> > > how Jackson and Sharpton justify their own
> > > existence....cause a frenzy,
> > > then publicly calm the storm and/or mediate to
> make
> > > it appear as Blacks
> > > have won another battle. The only Blacks
> winning
> > > are those two by lining
> > > their pockets from the false support they stir
> up in
> > > the Black
> > > community. If a tree falls in the woods, does
> it
> > > make a noise? No, and
> > > nobody profits from it either. Jackson and
> Sharpton
> > > do not jump onto
> > > bandwagons...they ARE the bandwagons.
> > >
> > > Jason Whitlock may be playing to a white
> audience,
> > > but his argument makes
> > > a lot more sense than Al Sharpton's. Al and
> Jessie
> > > trump this, and any
> > > other issue they can, up into a national media
> witch
> > > hunt for their own
> > > gain and fame. They make their money by
> claiming to
> > > be helping the Black
> > > community and Black causes and empowering Blacks
> but
> > > they do so by
> > > putting them into the roles of victims. They
> take
> > > their pride and self
> > > worth and turn it into anger. There is no
> > > possible positive outcome
> > > from the trouble Al Sharpton started....unless
> you
> > > consider Don Imus
> > > getting fired a plus. What about the female
> > > basketball players? Dom Imus
> > > didn't steal their thunder--Al Sharpton did!
> > > Jason Whitlock makes
> > > much more sense. Regardless of who is too young
> to
> > > not remember the civil
> > > right movement and marches of the sixties, it
> makes
> > > alot more sense to
> > > ignor what someone else says about you. When it
> > > comes right down to it,
> > > what Imus said doesn't matter and these female
> > > basketball players
> > > shouldn't let Imus define who they are. They
> went
> > > from educated,
> > > championship contenders to "nappy headed hos"
> not
> > > because Imus said it,
> > > but because Al Sharpton turned them into
> victims.
> > > Al Sharpton and Jessis
> > > Jackson are racists and do more to fuel racism
> and
> > > discrimination than
> > > they do to solve these problems.
> > >
> > > Todd T
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joseph Hadzima"
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Don Imus
> > > Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 07:46:51 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >
> > > Regarding the double standard ...
> > >
> > > yes and no!
> > >
> > > THESE specific women basketball team members
> were
> > > singled
> > > out. There is no information on what music
> these
> > > women
> > > like. So we can't say they deserve to be
> called
> > > anything.
> > > In fact THEY were offended, the rest of the
> noise
> > > (e.g.
> > > Rev. Jackson, et al) just wanted to hop on to
> the
> > > band
> > > wagon, and be heard (after the Imus was fired,
> > > Jackson
> > > still wants to hold his march to CBS).
> > >
> > > I also believe there is a tad more to the
> story ..
> > > the
> > > conversation (not just the single sentence
> from
> > > Imus) said
> > > things like the TN team were "cute", and other
> > > remarks
> > > which were unflatering to the NJ team. Those
> > > remarks I'm
> > > sure did even more to hurt their feelings.
> > >
> > > It was NOT a GENERAL remark, it was directed
> to a
> > > specific
> > > team. When the MC at a MTV Spring Break show
> > > welcomes the
> > > "bitches" to Spring Break Mexico, they are not
> > > specifically
> > > refering to "all the girls from "WhatsAmatter
> U",
> > > but any
> > > in the croud that wish to identify themselfs
> with
> > > the
> > > remark. No one is up in arms (many of these
> women
> > > are not
> > > black, and neither is the MC of the show - so
> it's
> > > not just
> > > the Black RAP community that is at fault).
> > >
> > > Anyone remember when it was totally un cool to
> > > refer to
> > > females over 16 as girls? they were either
> women,
> > > or young
> > > women, sometimes a male could get away with
> > > calling a goup
> > > "ladies" if the average age was over 40 ...
> maybe.
> > > Where
> > > is NOW now? Are they okay with this?
> > >
> > > As for the true part of the double standard.
> The
> > > irony is
> > > that the black community fought very hard for
> > > total
> > > integration many years ago, and now that some
> > > white folk
> > > embrace some of the same cultural atributes
> (think
> > > America
> > > the melting pot) in the burbs it is some how
> > > wrong.
> > >
> > > So IMHO, I believe some of this outrage is a
> good
> > > thing,
> > > even Rev. Sharpton said there needs to be more
> > > outrage
> > > towards some RAP and commics. But as far as
> Imus
> > > goes, he
> > > did insult a specific group of talented
> > > indivduals, and
> > > deserved at least the 2 week suspention.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > HADZ (a.k.a. joe)
> > >
> > > "Did you know...that when you walk past a
> flower,
> > > whether it be in
> > > somebody's garden or on a vacant hillside, the
> > > flower will always
> > > smile at you. The most polite way to respond,
> I've
> > > been told, is
> > > to cheerfully return the smile."
> > > --Ron Atchison
> > >
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