[Rhodes22-list] getting started

Geankoplis napoli68 at charter.net
Sat Dec 15 23:08:49 EST 2007


Tom, I stand corrected, someone else capsized one also, so there are two of
us.  And as everyone else pointed out it floated unlike so many others.  My
advice still stands, you can't get a safer better built boat nor a person
with more integrity than Stan to deal with.

Chris G

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Mary Lou could well be right about the capsize location.. I thought I read
it
was around here. The story on the boat is the same


Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
> 
> HI Tom,
> Welcome to the list. I missed your original message but saw Rory's 
> reply. We sail out of Rock Hall but make it down to the West River 
> every now and then. I believe Peter Thorn from NC has launched at 
> Holiday Hill on a couple of his trips to the Chesapeake with his boat
> Raven.
> 
> Our boat, Fretless, is a 1991 boat refurbished in 1998 and as far as 
> I know has a conventional board. I think I'd spend more time worrying 
> about the other options. One of the nice things about buying a 
> recycled R22 is that you get a semi-custom boat tailored to how you 
> want to use it. Think long and hard about your expected uses and go 
> from there. In our case we knew we wanted to do a lot of overnighting 
> and cruises of up to a week or so and looked for an interior and 
> options that seemed to suit that purpose.
> 
> I believe the boat that Rory was talking about that capsized was in 
> NC and capsized as the result of a microburst pushing a wall of wind 
> and water that caught the boat on the stern quarter. Tornados were 
> reported in the area. In that case the boat floated upside down and 
> was not righted until the rigging was cut away. A large number of 
> boats were sunk that day. The Rhodes 22 was upside down but it 
> floated. This is the only instance I have ever heard about a R22 
> actually completely capsizing. Under "normal" severe conditions the 
> Rhodes will do quite well.
> 
> Best wishes and good luck.
> 
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22  Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
> 
> At 06:22 PM 12/15/2007, you wrote:
> 
>>Welcome,
>>     I am across the bay from you on Tilghman Island and would be happy to
>>help . There a number of Rhodes on the bay.. I have a 2000 referb and
>>frankly I don't know if it has the diamond keel or not.
>>I suspect it does.. I would doubt that the keel style has all that much
>>effect on sailability but I would leave that answer to others.. A new boat
>>might entail a longer wait ..
>>            I don't know quite what you mean by self righting.. If the
>> boat
>>is heeled over hard, the hull drag will slow you enough to keep from
>>capsizing in any situation I have seen.. I have had it hard on the rail
lots
>>of times.It is fun but not really where you want to be if trimmed right
for
>>speed.
>>That being said, a microburst did capsize a Rhodes several years ago here
>>near Knapps Narrows. The mast I believe was impaled in the mud and
prevented
>>it from geting righted.. I don't know what would happen if it were deep
>>enough to do a full turtle.. It has lots of flotation. Stan would have to
>>tell you how a fully water loaded Rhodes will float but I think it would
>>sink only as far as the gunwales. I do not know of a safer boat in its
size
>>range..If sudden storms are your concern.. reef 95% of your sails for
>>stability and /or head into the wind using the motor or anchor. The upper
>>and middle Bay are so narrow, you are not far from some shelter most of
the
>>time. Lower bay can be a good bit worse though there are some pretty rough
>>conditions on occasion in upper and middle.. Talk to as many experienced
>>sailors as you can find..
>>They will be happy to share their experiences and horror stories with
>>you..:-) How they reacted to problems is always a lesson in what to do or
>>not to do.
>>                                 Rory
>>
>>
>>Tom Hogarty wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello, I'm new to sailing, just leased a slip on the Chesapeake,
>> Holiday
>> > Hill Marina, Mayo, Maryland, and have decided to get a Rhodes.  Stan
>> just
>> > received our deposit, and we have not yet decided which boat to
>> purchase.
>> > Does anyone on this list have one for sale?  Does anyone have enough
>> > experience with the new diamond keel to say it justify the cost of a
>> new
>> > boat?  Does anything remotely related to a boat have to be justified?
>> > I understand that these are hard to capsize and have positive
>> flotation,
>> > are they self righting as well?
>> >
>> > Many thanks,
>> > Tom Hogarty
>> >
>>
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