[Rhodes22-list] getting started

Sun Dec 16 08:27:25 EST 2007

Eerily similar stories. No wonder we were confused. The only advice I 
can glean out of this is don't go sailing in a tornado or a 
microburst but if you do, a R22 will still float.

ML

At 08:11 AM 12/16/2007, you wrote:

>I guess we have 2 similar stories,, Chris G seems to have has a similar story
>by Poplar Island
>
>
>Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
> >
> > I was relying on memory so I had to go look it up. The story is on
> > the R22 FAQ site.
> > http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/capsize.html
> >
> > Interesting that Stan says  "Re "just" floating, the boat floats very
> > high right side up - but the very design that keeps it high in the
> > water if it develops a leak, keeps it low in the water when upside down."
> >
> > ML
> >
> >
> > At 10:09 PM 12/15/2007, you wrote:
> >
> >>Mary Lou could well be right about the capsize location.. I thought I read
>it
> >>was around here. The story on the boat is the same
> >>
> >>
> >>Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > HI Tom,
> >> > Welcome to the list. I missed your original message but saw Rory's
> >> > reply. We sail out of Rock Hall but make it down to the West River
> >> > every now and then. I believe Peter Thorn from NC has launched at
> >> > Holiday Hill on a couple of his trips to the Chesapeake with his boat
> >> > Raven.
> >> >
> >> > Our boat, Fretless, is a 1991 boat refurbished in 1998 and as far as
> >> > I know has a conventional board. I think I'd spend more time worrying
> >> > about the other options. One of the nice things about buying a
> >> > recycled R22 is that you get a semi-custom boat tailored to how you
> >> > want to use it. Think long and hard about your expected uses and go
> >> > from there. In our case we knew we wanted to do a lot of overnighting
> >> > and cruises of up to a week or so and looked for an interior and
> >> > options that seemed to suit that purpose.
> >> >
> >> > I believe the boat that Rory was talking about that capsized was in
> >> > NC and capsized as the result of a microburst pushing a wall of wind
> >> > and water that caught the boat on the stern quarter. Tornados were
> >> > reported in the area. In that case the boat floated upside down and
> >> > was not righted until the rigging was cut away. A large number of
> >> > boats were sunk that day. The Rhodes 22 was upside down but it
> >> > floated. This is the only instance I have ever heard about a R22
> >> > actually completely capsizing. Under "normal" severe conditions the
> >> > Rhodes will do quite well.
> >> >
> >> > Best wishes and good luck.
> >> >
> >> > Mary Lou
> >> > 1991 R22  Fretless
> >> > Rock Hall, MD
> >> >
> >> > At 06:22 PM 12/15/2007, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Welcome,
> >> >>     I am across the bay from you on Tilghman Island and would be happy
> >> to
> >> >>help . There a number of Rhodes on the bay.. I have a 2000 referb and
> >> >>frankly I don't know if it has the diamond keel or not.
> >> >>I suspect it does.. I would doubt that the keel style has all that much
> >> >>effect on sailability but I would leave that answer to others.. A new
> >> boat
> >> >>might entail a longer wait ..
> >> >>            I don't know quite what you mean by self righting.. If the
> >> >> boat
> >> >>is heeled over hard, the hull drag will slow you enough to keep from
> >> >>capsizing in any situation I have seen.. I have had it hard on the rail
> >>lots
> >> >>of times.It is fun but not really where you want to be if trimmed right
> >>for
> >> >>speed.
> >> >>That being said, a microburst did capsize a Rhodes several years ago
> >> here
> >> >>near Knapps Narrows. The mast I believe was impaled in the mud and
> >>prevented
> >> >>it from geting righted.. I don't know what would happen if it were deep
> >> >>enough to do a full turtle.. It has lots of flotation. Stan would have
> >> to
> >> >>tell you how a fully water loaded Rhodes will float but I think it
> >> would
> >> >>sink only as far as the gunwales. I do not know of a safer boat in its
> >>size
> >> >>range..If sudden storms are your concern.. reef 95% of your sails for
> >> >>stability and /or head into the wind using the motor or anchor. The
> >> upper
> >> >>and middle Bay are so narrow, you are not far from some shelter most of
> >>the
> >> >>time. Lower bay can be a good bit worse though there are some pretty
> >> rough
> >> >>conditions on occasion in upper and middle.. Talk to as many
> >> experienced
> >> >>sailors as you can find..
> >> >>They will be happy to share their experiences and horror stories with
> >> >>you..:-) How they reacted to problems is always a lesson in what to do
> >> or
> >> >>not to do.
> >> >>                                 Rory
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Tom Hogarty wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hello, I'm new to sailing, just leased a slip on the Chesapeake,
> >> >> Holiday
> >> >> > Hill Marina, Mayo, Maryland, and have decided to get a Rhodes.  Stan
> >> >> just
> >> >> > received our deposit, and we have not yet decided which boat to
> >> >> purchase.
> >> >> > Does anyone on this list have one for sale?  Does anyone have enough
> >> >> > experience with the new diamond keel to say it justify the cost of a
> >> >> new
> >> >> > boat?  Does anything remotely related to a boat have to be
> >> justified?
> >> >> > I understand that these are hard to capsize and have positive
> >> >> flotation,
> >> >> > are they self righting as well?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Many thanks,
> >> >> > Tom Hogarty
> >> >> >
> >> >>
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