[Rhodes22-list] getting started/ thanks to all

[R Orkin]

Not that I ever intend to turtle the boat :-), but how did you manage to
release the stays and bolt which I assume were under water, Did you release
all the standing rigging including forestay ? Did you cut everything or
actually release the turnbuckles etc. Sounds like quite a story


Tom Hogarty wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the helpful reply.  I was not concerned about the stability of
> the Rhodes, or the claim to not capsize, but was confused about something
> I had read regarding the difficulty righting.  The shallow water and mud
> explains it all.
> Tom
> 
> 
> Geankoplis wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Tom,
>> 	   I think I am the only person in the last 30 years that managed to
>> capsize a Rhodes, and that took a tornado.  I can say if the mast is 10
>> feet
>> in the mud of the pot on Poplar Island it won't right itself, but as soon
>> as
>> I released the stays and bolt on the tabernacle the boat popped upright
>> after a slight hesitation. I've sailed them for the last 30 years and the
>> Rhodes is the best boat you can find for its length.  My advice is let
>> Stan
>> handle everything, a referb is a custom boat designed for you, lucky dog.
>> 
>> Chris G
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of R Orkin
>> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 3:22 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] getting started
>> 
>> 
>> Welcome,
>>     I am across the bay from you on Tilghman Island and would be happy to
>> help . There a number of Rhodes on the bay.. I have a 2000 referb and
>> frankly I don't know if it has the diamond keel or not.
>> I suspect it does.. I would doubt that the keel style has all that much
>> effect on sailability but I would leave that answer to others.. A new
>> boat
>> might entail a longer wait ..
>>            I don't know quite what you mean by self righting.. If the
>> boat
>> is heeled over hard, the hull drag will slow you enough to keep from
>> capsizing in any situation I have seen.. I have had it hard on the rail
>> lots
>> of times.It is fun but not really where you want to be if trimmed right
>> for
>> speed.
>> That being said, a microburst did capsize a Rhodes several years ago here
>> near Knapps Narrows. The mast I believe was impaled in the mud and
>> prevented
>> it from geting righted.. I don't know what would happen if it were deep
>> enough to do a full turtle.. It has lots of flotation. Stan would have to
>> tell you how a fully water loaded Rhodes will float but I think it would
>> sink only as far as the gunwales. I do not know of a safer boat in its
>> size
>> range..If sudden storms are your concern.. reef 95% of your sails for
>> stability and /or head into the wind using the motor or anchor. The upper
>> and middle Bay are so narrow, you are not far from some shelter most of
>> the
>> time. Lower bay can be a good bit worse though there are some pretty
>> rough
>> conditions on occasion in upper and middle.. Talk to as many experienced
>> sailors as you can find.. 
>> They will be happy to share their experiences and horror stories with
>> you..:-) How they reacted to problems is always a lesson in what to do or
>> not to do.
>>                                 Rory
>> 
>> 
>> Tom Hogarty wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, I'm new to sailing, just leased a slip on the Chesapeake, Holiday
>>> Hill Marina, Mayo, Maryland, and have decided to get a Rhodes.  Stan
>>> just
>>> received our deposit, and we have not yet decided which boat to
>>> purchase. 
>>> Does anyone on this list have one for sale?  Does anyone have enough
>>> experience with the new diamond keel to say it justify the cost of a new 
>>> boat?  Does anything remotely related to a boat have to be justified?
>>> I understand that these are hard to capsize and have positive flotation,
>>> are they self righting as well?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Tom Hogarty
>>> 
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