[Rhodes22-list] A mayonnaise jar, some golf balls, some sandand two cups of coffee

3drecon at comcast.net 3drecon at comcast.net
Mon Feb 5 19:37:42 EST 2007


I agree with you completely.  My reply to Rummy was going to be along those lines but not quite as detailed.  You are right, I am old enough to know; we have been married 27 years (going on 28).  On something like this she has equal rights of decision (maybe more).  She has been a good sport about it from the beginning and once we spent a couple of nice days sailing she seems to really like it.  When we finalize our boat we will be keeping it at least eight to ten more years.  The only way I could see getting rid of it is if we traded up to a larger boat, IF that is what we decide we want to do.  Meanwhile, we will do a lot of sailing, gain some experience and hopefully have fun while we decide.

I had forgotton how much fun we had as children on Candlewood Lake.

Philip

P.S.  What's $10K or so when your wife is happy?

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> 

> Philip, 
> 
> Mine is a 98 and I've often thought of trading it in on a new boat but I 
> can't think of a single reason for doing so. 
> 
> Mine was built for me, and it's got exactly what I want on it. My boat 
> is absolutely perfect for me. 
> 
> I've considered having my 98 recycled for me -- but there isn't much 
> wrong with it -- there's nothing to do. 
> 
> A recycled boat is functionally and cosmetically the same as a new boat, 
> and Stan can customize much of it (but sometimes not everything) to your 
> specs. 
> 
> As I remember it, you are old enough to know that if your wife wants a 
> new boat, you get a new boat. Purchasing it new is part of the fun for 
> her. She will always love the boat, and it will always have certain 
> things in it that she always wanted. The color will be exactly the 
> color she wanted. Everything will fit perfectly. She may want to spend 
> extra on something that will never matter to you -- but she will always 
> look fondly on that expense. Stan will make the boat perfectly for 
> her. And the boat will be both of yours, not just yours. 
> 
> Going through the process of making all the decisions you will have to 
> make together is really delightful. Guiding your new "child" through 
> the birthing process with Stan as the Midwife can be almost spiritual. 
> (Read some of elle's posts.) Forget about the costs. Stan is very 
> fair. He will tell you when he thinks something is not worth the 
> money. Everything you or Deena decide you want will be treasured 
> throughout years of use. This is a toy you can keep and use for the 
> rest of your life--and Stan can build you one that is just right for you. 
> 
> Be sure to get the new battened IMF sail. You may not be able to tell 
> the difference at first between the battened sail and the one you now 
> use, but the battened sail is slightly larger, and makes a subtle but 
> noticeable difference as your sailing skills improve. 
> 
> One of the beauties of the R-22 is that while it is simple to sail 
> initially, it is fundamentally an excellent sailboat on which you can 
> continue to improve your sailing skills year after year in complete 
> comfort with someone who loves the boat as much as you...do. 
> 
> Bill Effros 
> 
> 
> 
> 3drecon at comcast.net wrote: 
> > You are right about the older boat being just as fun as the new one. This one 
> is an '89 and sails fine. It has had some use. I had to rig an attachment for 
> the mainsail to the boom, the plastic rider broke. The bow has some dock 
> damage, some I did and some was there already. A few other things have worn 
> out. Other than that it sails just fine. Most of those things are cosmetic or 
> the fix works fine. 
> > 
> > Stan said he has a 1999 in play as a recycle. I wouldn't mind that but my 
> wife said everything we've bought is used and she would prefer the new boat. 
> She's become quite adept with the rudder. 
> > 
> > Philip 
> > 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > From: Bill Effros 
> > 
> > 
> >> The great thing about the boat is that an old one is just as much fun as 
> >> a new one--it's just a question of amenities. 
> >> 
> >> New boats take less time to care for, everything is exactly the way you 
> >> want it, a new boat is custom built for you and has little features you 
> >> will enjoy every day. 
> >> 
> >> The cost over time is not significant whether you get an old one or a 
> >> new one. Both boats will hold their value if you ever want to get rid 
> >> of either one. 
> >> 
> >> If the money is available, and you eventually get a new boat, you will 
> >> always wonder why you didn't do so sooner. 
> >> 
> >> If you decide now you want a new boat there will probably be many boats 
> >> ahead of yours. Stan really does custom build each boat to order. Go 
> >> over the various decisions carefully. Give him plenty of time to build 
> >> your boat to your exact specifications at his exact quality. 
> >> 
> >> Either way, you can't lose. 
> >> 
> >> Bill Effros 
> >> 
> >> Philip wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> Lately I have been busy. I have been avoiding most of the political clap 
> >>> trap so I haven't posted as much. We (Deena and I) are debating whether to 
> >>> keep the loaner 
> >>> another year or just jump into the new boat now. The loaner needs some work 
> >>> if we use it another season, so we have to plan a trip to Edenton. We are 
> >>> planning to take lessons for certification this spring when the weather is 
> >>> warmer. 
> >>> 
> >>> Philip 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message----- 
> >>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org 
> >>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros 
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:00 PM 
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A mayonnaise jar, some golf balls, some 
> >>> 
> >> sandand 
> >> 
> >>> two cups of coffee 
> >>> 
> >>> Nice, Philip, 
> >>> 
> >>> What are you up to? 
> >>> 
> >>> Bill Effros 
> >>> 
> >>> Philip wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> When things in your life seem almost too much to handle, when 24 hours in 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> a 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> day are not enough, remember the mayonnaise jar, the golf balls, the sand 
> >>>> and the two cups of coffee. 
> >>>> A professor stood before his philosophy class and had some items in front 
> >>>> of him. When the class began, wordlessly, he picked up a very large and 
> >>>> empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill 
> >>>> it with golf balls. He then asked the students if the jar was full. They 
> >>>> agreed that it was. 
> >>>> The professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> jar. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles rolled into the open areas between 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> the 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> golf balls. He then asked the students again if the jar was full (they 
> >>>> agreed it was). The professor next picked up a box of sand and poured it 
> >>>> into the jar. Of course, the sand filled up everything else. He asked once 
> >>>> more if the jar was full. The students responded with a unanimous "yes." 
> >>>> 
> >>>> The professor then produced two cups of coffee from under the table and 
> >>>> poured the entire contents into the jar, effectively filling the empty 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> space 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> between the sand. The students laughed. 
> >>>> Now," said the professor, as the laughter subsided, "I want you to 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> recognize 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> that this jar represents your life. The golf balls are the important 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> things- 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> your God, family, your children, your health, your friends, and your 
> >>>> favourite passions--things that if everything else was lost and only they 
> >>>> remained your life would still be full. 
> >>>> The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your house, 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> and 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> your car. The sand is everything else -- the small stuff. 
> >>>> If you put the sand into the jar first," he continued, "there is no room 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> for 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> the pebbles or the golf balls. The same goes for life. If you spend all 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> your 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> time and energy on the small stuff, you will never have room for the 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> things 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> that are important to you. 
> >>>> Pay attention to the things that are critical to your happiness. Play with 
> >>>> your children. Take time to get medical checkups. Take your partner out to 
> >>>> dinner. Play another 18. There will always be time to clean the house and 
> >>>> fix the disposal." 
> >>>> Take care of the golf balls first -- the things that really matter. Set 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> your 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> priorities. The rest is just sand." 
> >>>> One of the students raised her hand and inquired what the coffee 
> >>>> represented. 
> >>>> The professor smiled. "I'm glad you asked. It just goes to show you that 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> no 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> matter how full your life may seem, there's always room for a couple of 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> cups 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> of coffee with a friend." 
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