[Rhodes22-list] Re: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 1045, Issue 1

[loumoore at aol.com]

Hi 
 
Does anyone have any info on used boat trailers?  I am in the market for a trailer for a small keelboat (unfortunately not a Rhodes--someday.)  The boat is a 15 foot Bullseye.
 
Thanks,
Lou 
 
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   1. Re: Claude and Trailer for sail, +addendum (ccc974 at comcast.net)
   2. Re: Tongue Weight (bill davidge)
   3. Carlin and Sis (Brad Haslett)
   4. Re: Carlin and Sis - questioned (Robert Skinner)
   5. Re: Carlin and Sis - questioned (Brad Haslett)
   6. Tongue Weight (Tootle)
   7. Re: Carlin and Sis - questioned (Robert Skinner)
   8. Re: Carlin and Sis - questioned (Brad Haslett)
   9. Re: Pictures Re: [Rhodes22-list] Barge in ice (elle)
  10. Re: Carlin and Sis - questioned (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
  11. Re: Carlin and Sis (elle)
  12. Snopes.com (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
  13. Re: Snopes.com (elle)
  14. Re: Snopes.com (Robert Skinner)
  15. Re: Tongue Weight (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
  16. FYI Fun Fund raiser for Downtown Sailing Club (Joseph Hadzima)
  17. RE: A mayonnaise jar, some golf balls,    some sandand two cups
      of coffee (Philip)
  18. Re: Carlin and Sis - questioned (Slim)
  19. Flying Pig Aground in Florida Keys (Tootle)
  20. Re: Carlin and Sis - questioned (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
  21. Re: Carlin and Sis - questioned (Tootle)
  22. Re: Carlin and Sis - questioned - now Tenzin Gyatso
      (Robert Skinner)
  23. Math Challenge (Brad Haslett)
  24. Re: Carlin and Sis - questioned - now Tenzin Gyatso (elle)
  25. Re: Carlin and Sis - questioned - now Tenzin Gyatso
      (Robert Skinner)
  26. Re: Carlin and Sis - questioned - now Tenzin Gyatso (Brad Haslett)
  27. Re: Math Challenge (Bill Effros)
  28. Re: Tongue Weight (Rob Lowe)
  29. Re: Tongue Weight (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
  30. RE: Math Challenge (Wickman, William E)
  31. Re: Tongue Weight (Rob Lowe)
  32. Blonde Joke (Hank)
  33. How To Adjust Boat On Trailer On Highway (Bill Effros)


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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Claude and Trailer for sail, +addendum
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Ed;

Good info--thanks.  I can make Rummy's house in about an hour and 45 minues.  
Looks like about 6 1/2 hours to Chapel Hill.

Claude

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> 
> Claude: 
> 
> I can make UNC Chapel Hill in about 4 hours 15 minutes from Greenville, SC 
> in a car. I am about 35 minutes from Rummy's house without traffic. 
> 
> Make sure that you grease the bearings. 
> 
> Ed K 
> Greenville, SC, USA 
> Addendum: Chinese discription of Brad Haslett "He who exercises government 
> by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps 
> its place and all the stars turn towards it. -Confucius, philosopher and 
> teacher (c. 551-478 BCE) " 
> 
> 
> Peter Thorn wrote: 
> > 
> > * * * FOR SALE * * * 
> > 
> > 1988 Trailmaster single axle sailboat trailer. Surge brakes, spare tire, 
> > new 
> > tongue jack. (Raven's first trailer and still has lots of good use 
> > remaining) $1,500 OBO 
> > 
> > Note: It's customary and encouraged for buyers and sellers on this 
> > list-serve to contribute a voluntary 5% sales commission to General Boats 
> > Inc. 
> > 
> > PT 
> > 
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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 13:33:06 -0800 (PST)
From: bill davidge <wpdavidge at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
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Rob
   I have a Dodge Dakota pick up and in the manual they call for 10% .So how 
hard is to get 350-450 lb,s on the tongue ? Is there a way of getting it close 
before you  pull out of the water?
   Stan will help me when I pick up my boat , however can one person do it by 
himself? The web sit had lot's of info but I don't think it will take one of 
there scales .
 
Bill D.
 


----- Original Message ----
From: Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:23:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight


Bill,
Somewhere between enough to keep the boat from fishtailing when trailering
(too light) and from overloading the rear of the towing vehicle (too much).
Seriously, I know this has been discussed and don't recall the numbers.  I
know it on my vehicle when I see it.  Anyone recall that discussion (yes, I
know you can search the archives, but I did and didn't find it).  During
that discussion, I bookmarked this web site.  I believe there a couple of
people who use this scale.  But it's more than you want to know about
towing.  But based on my single axle trailer and a 3500 pound boat (+/-),
about 350-400 pounds??

http://www.sherline.com/lmbook.htm

- Rob


----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight


Rob,  can you please  tell me what the normal tongue weight is when pulling
a Rhodes 22.


  Thanks Bill  D .


----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:05:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] farewell Phoenix


Peter,
I hope those guys did make it back safely.  Looks like there is not much
tongue weight if any on the ball.  The boat looks like it perched right at
the center of gravity. - rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
To: "Rhodes 22 List Members" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] farewell Phoenix


> Glacier
> Hello Rhodies~
>
> Phoenix is gone and it's pretty hard for me to keep the grin off my face!
>
> Paul Minor, owner of Bath Harbor Marina (Bath, NC) is the proud new owner.
> Bath isn't too far from Edenton, so maybe Stan will take pity on him and
> help with spare parts.  Paul plans to keep his helper Irv working all
winter
> getting Phoenix ready to be part of his rental fleet.  This seems like an
> appropriate next place for that tough old boat to go.
>
> Paul has also answered the question "Will a Rhodes 22 fit on at Catalina
22
> trailer?"  Answer:  Just barely.  (Can you see the logs shoring the keel
to
> the trailer?)  I hope they make it back to Bath safely...
>
> Good luck and fair winds to Paul, Irv and Phoenix!
>
> PT
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Hey elle, thanks for the heads up. We need people to keep us in touch 
with the outside world. In any event we took a drive and here she is 
just north of Tolchester Beach and south of Pooles Island. While we 
were there she fired up the engines and was moving forward and 
reverse but not going anywhere.

We had a report from a friend of an icebreaker going north. There was 
another barge up around Poole's Island with a tug and one other 
vessel (maybe the icebreaker) moving around so maybe a rescue was in progress.

In any event not how I'd like to spend a Tuesday afternoon - marooned 
in a bunch of ice on a tug going nowhere.

Mary Lou


At 11:48 AM 2/6/2007, you wrote:
>CG notice to mariners for Chesapeake Bay reports a 290' barge in ice 
>in the Tolchester shipping Channel in the upper Bay. (Eastern 
>shore..across from the Patuxent River-- Baltimore.) Ice report tells 
>of extensive icing up there & also in Potomac & Anacostia Rivers in DC.
>
>   elle
>
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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 16:04:41 -0600
From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis
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 Got this from my sister last week.  Sis and I don't agree on much but every
now and then she sends me a "zinger".

Sis got this one right!  Life IS interesting!



Brad









An interesting twist for George Carlin.....I rarely forward these chain
letters but it is certainly one that makes you stop and think!!!  I was
somewhat amazed by the author, unfortunately his wife recently passed
away.


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GEORGE CARLIN (His wife recently died...)


Isn't it amazing that George Carlin - gross and mouthy comedian of the
70's and 80's - could write something so very eloquent..and so very
appropriate.

A wonderful Message by George Carlin:

The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but
shorter tempers, wider Freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We spend
more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses
and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more
degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts,

yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.

We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too
little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too
tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom. We have
multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much,
love too seldom, and hate too often.

We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to

life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but

have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered
outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not
better things

We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the
atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan
more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We
build more computers to hold more information, to produce more

copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.

These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small
character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days
of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These

are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one
night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from
cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the
showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can

bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share

this insight, or to just hit delete..


Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not
going to be around forever.

Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because

that little person soon will grow up and leave your side.

Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the

only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.

Remember, to say, "I love you" to your partner and your loved ones, but
most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes
from deep inside of you.

Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person
will not be there again.

Give time to love , give time to speak! And give time to share the
precious thoughts in your mind.

AND ALWAYS REMEMBER:

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the
moments that take our breath away.

If you don't send this to at least 8 people....Who cares?

George Carlin


Have a nice day, unless you already have other plans.

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:44:45 -0500
From: Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis - questioned
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <45C904DD.60CBF110 at squirrelhaven.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Brad:

Please take a look at

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/paradox.asp

/Robert
---------------------------------------------------
Brad Haslett wrote:
> 
>  Got this from my sister last week.  Sis and I don't agree on much but every
> now and then she sends me a "zinger"...
> 
> Sis got this one right!  Life IS interesting!
> 
> Brad
> 
> An interesting twist for George Carlin.....I rarely forward these chain
> letters but it is certainly one that makes you stop and think!!!  I was
> somewhat amazed by the author, unfortunately his wife recently passed
> away.
> 
>  ------------------------------
> 
> GEORGE CARLIN (His wife recently died...)
> 
> Isn't it amazing that George Carlin - gross and mouthy comedian of the
> 70's and 80's - could write something so very eloquent..and so very
> appropriate.
> 
> A wonderful Message by George Carlin:
> 
> The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but
> shorter tempers, wider Freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We spend...

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 16:57:30 -0600
From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis - questioned
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID:
    <400985d70702061457g5760c790i88c7713d05f2ddc6 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Robert,

I did the homework.  Frankly, Carlin probably didn't write it.  You can find
a number of other sources that quote he did write it, or didn't.  That
doesn't change the value of the message.  I haven't been to a Sunday sermon
in thirty years because I had a 'rats ass' interest in the message, but a
pastor friend of mine is preaching on 'Carlins' message next Sunday and I
promised to be there. What part of the message do you disagree with?

Brad


On 2/6/07, Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>
> Brad:
>
> Please take a look at
>
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/paradox.asp
>
> /Robert
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Brad Haslett wrote:
> >
> >  Got this from my sister last week.  Sis and I don't agree on much but
> every
> > now and then she sends me a "zinger"...
> >
> > Sis got this one right!  Life IS interesting!
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > An interesting twist for George Carlin.....I rarely forward these chain
> > letters but it is certainly one that makes you stop and think!!!  I was
> > somewhat amazed by the author, unfortunately his wife recently passed
> > away.
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> > GEORGE CARLIN (His wife recently died...)
> >
> > Isn't it amazing that George Carlin - gross and mouthy comedian of the
> > 70's and 80's - could write something so very eloquent..and so very
> > appropriate.
> >
> > A wonderful Message by George Carlin:
> >
> > The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but
> > shorter tempers, wider Freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We spend...
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:39:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Message-ID: <8836938.post at talk.nabble.com>
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Bill D:

     First, relax, you can move a Rhodes 22 on a trailer in the wrong
position resulting in wrong tongue weight.  The only issues are at what
speed.  If it is more than a couple of inches off, you just have to be
carefull over 70 mph and going down hill.  If you go 55 you just do not have
the problems.
     If you are going to Edenton to get your boat, ask that Elton be there,
he moves more boats and goes more distant places than Stan does these days.
      The correct tongue weight is a variable.  Older boats, that is
recycled weigh less than brand new boats, therefore need less tongue weight. 
The kind and size of the motor are factors.  I have an 8 hp 2 cycle Tohotsu
and it only weighs 60 pounds.  I can move it myself.  If you get a 9.9 four
stoker, it takes two people to move and affect tongue weight more if you
leave it on.  So if you have the heavier motor you have to have the boat
more foreward.  
       Yes, you can launch and retrieve a Rhodes 22 by yourself.  It is just
faster and easier with two.  Especially when one of the helpers is Rummy.
       Now if you really want to know the answers, look here:
http://search.ask.com/web?q=tongue+weight+site%3Arhodes22.org+&qsrc=1&o=0&l=dir

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA




bill davidge wrote:
> 
> Rob
>    I have a Dodge Dakota pick up and in the manual they call for 10% .So
> how hard is to get 350-450 lb,s on the tongue ? Is there a way of getting
> it close before you  pull out of the water?
>    Stan will help me when I pick up my boat , however can one person do it
> by himself? The web sit had lot's of info but I don't think it will take
> one of there scales .
>  
> Bill D.
>  
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:23:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
> 
> 
> Bill,
> Somewhere between enough to keep the boat from fishtailing when trailering
> (too light) and from overloading the rear of the towing vehicle (too
> much).
> Seriously, I know this has been discussed and don't recall the numbers.  I
> know it on my vehicle when I see it.  Anyone recall that discussion (yes,
> I
> know you can search the archives, but I did and didn't find it).  During
> that discussion, I bookmarked this web site.  I believe there a couple of
> people who use this scale.  But it's more than you want to know about
> towing.  But based on my single axle trailer and a 3500 pound boat (+/-),
> about 350-400 pounds??
> 
> http://www.sherline.com/lmbook.htm
> 
> - Rob
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "bill davidge" <wpdavidge at yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
> 
> 
> Rob,  can you please  tell me what the normal tongue weight is when
> pulling
> a Rhodes 22.
> 
> 
>   Thanks Bill  D .
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:05:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] farewell Phoenix
> 
> 
> Peter,
> I hope those guys did make it back safely.  Looks like there is not much
> tongue weight if any on the ball.  The boat looks like it perched right at
> the center of gravity. - rob
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
> To: "Rhodes 22 List Members" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:17 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] farewell Phoenix
> 
> 
>> Glacier
>> Hello Rhodies~
>>
>> Phoenix is gone and it's pretty hard for me to keep the grin off my face!
>>
>> Paul Minor, owner of Bath Harbor Marina (Bath, NC) is the proud new
>> owner.
>> Bath isn't too far from Edenton, so maybe Stan will take pity on him and
>> help with spare parts.  Paul plans to keep his helper Irv working all
> winter
>> getting Phoenix ready to be part of his rental fleet.  This seems like an
>> appropriate next place for that tough old boat to go.
>>
>> Paul has also answered the question "Will a Rhodes 22 fit on at Catalina
> 22
>> trailer?"  Answer:  Just barely.  (Can you see the logs shoring the keel
> to
>> the trailer?)  I hope they make it back to Bath safely...
>>
>> Good luck and fair winds to Paul, Irv and Phoenix!
>>
>> PT
>>
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> 
> 
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>> available
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> 
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> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:47:08 -0500
From: Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis - questioned
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <45C9137C.1717453E at squirrelhaven.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Brad - 

My question was not and is not hostile to you.

The message's impact suffered from the lack of proper attribution.
I would have a hard time warming to someone preaching on an
incompletely researched quotation.  I also understand the difficulty
of accomplishing it when you have to develop a new argument for
right action on a weekly schedule.

As to the content of the message, it is a good summary of the 
adverse progression of so many trends in our society.  If I were
going to preach on it, I would immediately point out that the core
of the message transcends its shabby treatment as it passed through
the Internet.  The self-serving twisting of messages by your next 
door neighbor and prominent politicians is yet another symptom
of a growing disdain for truth.

Deliberately changing an attribution to reflect well or poorly on
someone is a form of theft, and a lie to boot.  I have a respect 
for accuracy, and this message is tainted.

Nothing about this is directed at you personally.

Pax,
/Robert

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Brad Haslett wrote:
> 
> Robert,
> 
> I did the homework.  Frankly, Carlin probably didn't write it.  You can find
> a number of other sources that quote he did write it, or didn't.  That
> doesn't change the value of the message.  I haven't been to a Sunday sermon
> in thirty years because I had a 'rats ass' interest in the message, but a
> pastor friend of mine is preaching on 'Carlins' message next Sunday and I
> promised to be there. What part of the message do you disagree with?
> 
> Brad
> 
> On 2/6/07, Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
> >
> > Brad:
> >
> > Please take a look at
> >
> > http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/paradox.asp
> >
> > /Robert
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > Brad Haslett wrote:
> > >
> > >  Got this from my sister last week.  Sis and I don't agree on much but
> > every
> > > now and then she sends me a "zinger"...
> > >
> > > Sis got this one right!  Life IS interesting!
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > > An interesting twist for George Carlin.....I rarely forward these chain
> > > letters but it is certainly one that makes you stop and think!!!  I was
> > > somewhat amazed by the author, unfortunately his wife recently passed
> > > away.
> > >
> > >  ------------------------------
> > >
> > > GEORGE CARLIN (His wife recently died...)
> > >
> > > Isn't it amazing that George Carlin - gross and mouthy comedian of the
> > > 70's and 80's - could write something so very eloquent..and so very
> > > appropriate.
> > >
> > > A wonderful Message by George Carlin:
> > >
> > > The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but
> > > shorter tempers, wider Freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We spend...
> > __________________________________________________
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
> >
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list

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"Squirrel Haven", 9 Gateway Commons, Gorham, Maine 04038-1331
'87 West Wight Potter 15' Mark II # 1618 "Little Dipper"
'94 West Wight Potter 19' Swing Keel Short Rig # 754 "Edith P"
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 18:07:06 -0600
From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis - questioned
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID:
    <400985d70702061607y7b867dex5a94db8ebf1e7508 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Robert,

Not a bad approach,  I'll pass your thoughts on to Warner and he'll
give/remove credit where it is due.  Inspiration comes from strange places.
Who would think that a minister would want to hang with me for sermon
ideas?  Then again, hard to preach against sinners if you don't have
exposure to the problem.

Brad


On 2/6/07, Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>
> Brad -
>
> My question was not and is not hostile to you.
>
> The message's impact suffered from the lack of proper attribution.
> I would have a hard time warming to someone preaching on an
> incompletely researched quotation.  I also understand the difficulty
> of accomplishing it when you have to develop a new argument for
> right action on a weekly schedule.
>
> As to the content of the message, it is a good summary of the
> adverse progression of so many trends in our society.  If I were
> going to preach on it, I would immediately point out that the core
> of the message transcends its shabby treatment as it passed through
> the Internet.  The self-serving twisting of messages by your next
> door neighbor and prominent politicians is yet another symptom
> of a growing disdain for truth.
>
> Deliberately changing an attribution to reflect well or poorly on
> someone is a form of theft, and a lie to boot.  I have a respect
> for accuracy, and this message is tainted.
>
> Nothing about this is directed at you personally.
>
> Pax,
> /Robert
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Brad Haslett wrote:
> >
> > Robert,
> >
> > I did the homework.  Frankly, Carlin probably didn't write it.  You can
> find
> > a number of other sources that quote he did write it, or didn't.  That
> > doesn't change the value of the message.  I haven't been to a Sunday
> sermon
> > in thirty years because I had a 'rats ass' interest in the message, but
> a
> > pastor friend of mine is preaching on 'Carlins' message next Sunday and
> I
> > promised to be there. What part of the message do you disagree with?
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On 2/6/07, Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Brad:
> > >
> > > Please take a look at
> > >
> > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/paradox.asp
> > >
> > > /Robert
> > > ---------------------------------------------------
> > > Brad Haslett wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Got this from my sister last week.  Sis and I don't agree on much
> but
> > > every
> > > > now and then she sends me a "zinger"...
> > > >
> > > > Sis got this one right!  Life IS interesting!
> > > >
> > > > Brad
> > > >
> > > > An interesting twist for George Carlin.....I rarely forward these
> chain
> > > > letters but it is certainly one that makes you stop and think!!!  I
> was
> > > > somewhat amazed by the author, unfortunately his wife recently
> passed
> > > > away.
> > > >
> > > >  ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > GEORGE CARLIN (His wife recently died...)
> > > >
> > > > Isn't it amazing that George Carlin - gross and mouthy comedian of
> the
> > > > 70's and 80's - could write something so very eloquent..and so very
> > > > appropriate.
> > > >
> > > > A wonderful Message by George Carlin:
> > > >
> > > > The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings
> but
> > > > shorter tempers, wider Freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We
> spend...
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
> > >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
> --
> Robert Skinner         Coordinates N43° 41.330', W70° 24.889'
> "Squirrel Haven", 9 Gateway Commons, Gorham, Maine 04038-1331
> '87 West Wight Potter 15' Mark II # 1618 "Little Dipper"
> '94 West Wight Potter 19' Swing Keel Short Rig # 754 "Edith P"
> Home message and FAX machine 207-839-8777, Cell 207-653-1752
> __________________________________________________
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 16:20:19 -0800 (PST)
From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pictures Re: [Rhodes22-list] Barge in ice
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <763756.32769.qm at web37909.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Mary Lou,

Great picture! What luck you were able to get a shot
of it. Judging from the weather reports for the next
36 hrs., it may not be the last barge spending some
time admiring the Eastern shore. ;^)

As busy as it can get at the marina (BOY was it
cold!..did I say that yet?? ;^) it is always
interesting to flip over to 22A & listen to the
securite alerts. Once in a while there is a good one
like this.

Thanks for going out & getting this one!

elle


--- Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> Hey elle, thanks for the heads up. We need people to
> keep us in touch 
> with the outside world. In any event we took a drive
> and here she is 
> just north of Tolchester Beach and south of Pooles
> Island. While we 
> were there she fired up the engines and was moving
> forward and 
> reverse but not going anywhere.
> 
> We had a report from a friend of an icebreaker going
> north. There was 
> another barge up around Poole's Island with a tug
> and one other 
> vessel (maybe the icebreaker) moving around so maybe
> a rescue was in progress.
> 
> In any event not how I'd like to spend a Tuesday
> afternoon - marooned 
> in a bunch of ice on a tug going nowhere.
> 
> Mary Lou
> 
> 
> At 11:48 AM 2/6/2007, you wrote:
> >CG notice to mariners for Chesapeake Bay reports a
> 290' barge in ice 
> >in the Tolchester shipping Channel in the upper
> Bay. (Eastern 
> >shore..across from the Patuxent River-- Baltimore.)
> Ice report tells 
> >of extensive icing up there & also in Potomac &
> Anacostia Rivers in DC.
> >
> >   elle
> >
> >
> >We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can
> adjust our sails.
> >
> >---------------------------------
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:29:31 EST
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis - questioned
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Message-ID: <d16.6c6ff53.32fa776b at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

 
In a message dated 2/6/2007 5:46:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
robert at squirrelhaven.com writes:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/paradox.asp


Thanks Robert. I just love snopes.com.

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 16:33:44 -0800 (PST)
From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <177569.50769.qm at web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1


That was typical Carlin...but w/o the bite.

It's amazing how one's outlook on life changes when
the most important part of it isn't there any more.

These things he says are true. If your loved one were
to be gone tomorrow, what would be one thing you'd
regret not having done or said?

Do it now. Regrets don't go away.

elle

We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.


 
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:35:35 EST
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Snopes.com
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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There are days that I get at least three emails that are absolute crap sent  
to me. I in turn research their origins on snopes.com and send the results to  
the sending offender. I wish people would research the crap they pass along  
prior to hitting the send key. (Not a personal attack on Brad, just a general  
rant)
 
Rummy

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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 16:40:22 -0800 (PST)
From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Snopes.com
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Robert, et al,

Thanks for straightening out the attribution. One of
the Internet's greatest attributes is also one of its
greatest drawbacks....

elle

--- R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:

> There are days that I get at least three emails that
> are absolute crap sent  
> to me. I in turn research their origins on
> snopes.com and send the results to  
> the sending offender. I wish people would research
> the crap they pass along  
> prior to hitting the send key. (Not a personal
> attack on Brad, just a general  
> rant)
>  
> Rummy
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:06:36 -0500
From: Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Snopes.com
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Seconded!

/Robert

R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> 
> There are days that I get at least three emails that are absolute crap sent
> to me. I in turn research their origins on snopes.com and send the results to
> the sending offender. I wish people would research the crap they pass along
> prior to hitting the send key. (Not a personal attack on Brad, just a general
> rant)
> 
> Rummy

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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 20:22:12 -0500 (EST)
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Bill,
Stan is the master at getting the boat out of the water.  If you want a chuckle, 
ask him about recovering the boat after the Annapolis show, on Spa Creek.  He 
will be able to get the boat placement correct on the trailer.
Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: bill davidge <wpdavidge at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Feb 6, 2007 4:33 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
>
>Rob
>   I have a Dodge Dakota pick up and in the manual they call for 10% .So how 
hard is to get 350-450 lb,s on the tongue ? Is there a way of getting it close 
before you  pull out of the water?
>   Stan will help me when I pick up my boat , however can one person do it by 
himself? The web sit had lot's of info but I don't think it will take one of 
there scales .
> 
>Bill D.
> 
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:23:31 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
>
>
>Bill,
>Somewhere between enough to keep the boat from fishtailing when trailering
>(too light) and from overloading the rear of the towing vehicle (too much).
>Seriously, I know this has been discussed and don't recall the numbers.  I
>know it on my vehicle when I see it.  Anyone recall that discussion (yes, I
>know you can search the archives, but I did and didn't find it).  During
>that discussion, I bookmarked this web site.  I believe there a couple of
>people who use this scale.  But it's more than you want to know about
>towing.  But based on my single axle trailer and a 3500 pound boat (+/-),
>about 350-400 pounds??
>
>http://www.sherline.com/lmbook.htm
>
>- Rob
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "bill davidge" <wpdavidge at yahoo.com>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
>
>
>Rob,  can you please  tell me what the normal tongue weight is when pulling
>a Rhodes 22.
>
>
>  Thanks Bill  D .
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:05:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] farewell Phoenix
>
>
>Peter,
>I hope those guys did make it back safely.  Looks like there is not much
>tongue weight if any on the ball.  The boat looks like it perched right at
>the center of gravity. - rob
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
>To: "Rhodes 22 List Members" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:17 PM
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] farewell Phoenix
>
>
>> Glacier
>> Hello Rhodies~
>>
>> Phoenix is gone and it's pretty hard for me to keep the grin off my face!
>>
>> Paul Minor, owner of Bath Harbor Marina (Bath, NC) is the proud new owner.
>> Bath isn't too far from Edenton, so maybe Stan will take pity on him and
>> help with spare parts.  Paul plans to keep his helper Irv working all
>winter
>> getting Phoenix ready to be part of his rental fleet.  This seems like an
>> appropriate next place for that tough old boat to go.
>>
>> Paul has also answered the question "Will a Rhodes 22 fit on at Catalina
>22
>> trailer?"  Answer:  Just barely.  (Can you see the logs shoring the keel
>to
>> the trailer?)  I hope they make it back to Bath safely...
>>
>> Good luck and fair winds to Paul, Irv and Phoenix!
>>
>> PT
>>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 18:17:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Joseph Hadzima <josef508 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FYI Fun Fund raiser for Downtown Sailing Club
To: The Rhodes 22 mail Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Hi y'all


I know some of you live nearby, but I also wanted to make
sure I got this message to all looking for a good time on a
Friday night :-)


Just a little note: DSC (http://downtownSailing.Org) does
sponsor disable sailing events, and Baltimore City Youth
outreach programs, in addition to the usual afordable
sailing lessons, and rentals for all. 


Last chance: Who wants to party??? Reduced tickets ($40)
only until February 7th - goes back up to $60 on February
8th. 

Here's what you're going to miss if you don't get your
ticket(s) soon!- silent auction items include: 
Gary Jobson video/ book package,  Sail Baltimore tickets to
(2) 2007 Tall Ship receptions,  2002 Volvo Ocean Race
"Illbruck" jacket, signed by skipper John Kostecki, 
Schooner Woodwind - (2) tickets for an afternoon/evening
sail, A round of golf for 2-3 persons at Doug Silber's
country club and a King's Contrivance (restaurant) gift
certificate in the amount of $100.
            
ALSO: 1 a week in May or Sept /Oct at a beach house in NC/
ocean front - rentals that time period are about
$1500/week. 
    
AND, the donation of 100 points (roughly a 4-day trip) to a
Disney Vacation Club resort. Here are the resorts to choose
from: Walt Disney World, Orlando: Beach Club, Saratoga
Springs, Old Key West, Boardwalk, Wilderness Lodge,
Disney's Vero Beach Resort in FL, Disney's Hilton Head
Island Resort in SC
    
Plus, lots of other great stuff!!
    
Did we mention the food?!?! Atlantic Caterers will have
beef & turkey carving stations in addition to heavy hors
d'eouvres that include: Fresh fruit display, International
cheeses, dessert table, steamed shrimp, sauteed scallops,
lump crab dip, crab balls, etc.and .your beer & wine are
included!!!

Join us for " A Casino Night in Freeport"- Friday, February
23, 2007 Tickets are available- bring friends, co-workers
and neighbors for this special event!  Dress code: Formal
or Island Casual. Our big night also includes live music,
silent auction, 50/50 and casino games. Cash bar available.
Still need items for silent auction, as well as folks to
help with this event (check-in, silent auction table, coat
check, etc). 

Please send payment for tickets via check only to: "DSC"
with memo line: "Feb 23 event". 

Our thanks to Spinsheet for sponsoring this event!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



HADZ (a.k.a. joe)

"That's what a ship is, you know. It's not just a keel and hull and a deck and 
sails. That's what a ship needs. But what a ship is... is freedom." 
-- Captain Jack Sparrow

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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:41:34 -0500
From: "Philip" <3drecon at comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] A mayonnaise jar, some golf balls, some
    sandand two cups of coffee
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Thanks, we'll check it out.

Philip


 -----Original Message-----
From:   rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of KUHN, LELAND
Sent:   Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:07 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject:    RE: [Rhodes22-list] A mayonnaise jar, some golf balls,some sandand
two cups of coffee

Philip,

If you're interested in lessons, check out:

http://www.usna.edu/MWR/programs.htm  410.293.2058/3731

The Annapolis Navy Station isn't too far of a drive for you and they
offer the US Sailing Basic Keelboat Course for $165 (you'll need your
military ID).  Classroom Friday night; in water lessons with the
instructor all day Saturday; and in water "test" with students only all
day Sunday (everyone passes).  After completing the course, you'll be
able to rent the Naval Academy's old student knockabouts (Rainbow24s),
other small sailboats, and some Boston Whalers.  Lessons and rentals are
about half the price of non-military facilities, and it's tough to beat
the location.  Note that there may already be a waiting list for some
2007 sailing courses.

Good luck!

Lee
1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
Crab Alley (Kent Island, MD)


-----Original Message-----
From: Philip [mailto:3drecon at comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:26 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] A mayonnaise jar, some golf balls,some
sandand two cups of coffee

Lately I have been busy.  I have been avoiding most of the political
clap
trap so I haven't posted as much.  We (Deena and I) are debating whether
to
keep the loaner
another year or just jump into the new boat now.  The loaner needs some
work
if we use it another season, so we have to plan a trip to Edenton.  We
are
planning to take lessons for certification this spring when the weather
is
warmer.

Philip


 -----Original Message-----
From:   rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of Bill Effros
Sent:   Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:00 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject:    Re: [Rhodes22-list] A mayonnaise jar, some golf balls,
some sandand
two cups of coffee

Nice, Philip,

What are you up to?

Bill Effros

Philip wrote:
> When things in your life seem almost too much to handle, when 24 hours
in
a
> day are not enough, remember the mayonnaise jar, the golf balls, the
sand
> and the two cups of coffee.
>  A professor stood before his philosophy class and had some items in
front
> of him. When the class began, wordlessly, he picked up a very large
and
> empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill
> it with golf balls. He then asked the students if the jar was full.
They
> agreed that it was.
> The professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the
jar.
> He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles rolled into the open areas
between
the
> golf balls. He then asked the students again if the jar was full (they
> agreed it was). The professor next picked up a box of sand and poured
it
> into the jar. Of course, the sand filled up everything else. He asked
once
> more if the jar was full. The students responded with a unanimous
"yes."
>
> The professor then produced two cups of coffee from under the table
and
> poured the entire contents into the jar, effectively filling the empty
space
> between the sand. The students laughed.
> Now," said the professor, as the laughter subsided, "I want you to
recognize
> that this jar represents your life. The golf balls are the important
things-
> your God, family, your children, your health, your friends, and your
> favourite passions--things that if everything else was lost and only
they
> remained your life would still be full.
> The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your
house,
and
> your car. The sand is everything else -- the small stuff.
> If you put the sand into the jar first," he continued, "there is no
room
for
> the pebbles or the golf balls. The same goes for life. If you spend
all
your
> time and energy on the small stuff, you will never have room for the
things
> that are important to you.
> Pay attention to the things that are critical to your happiness. Play
with
> your children. Take time to get medical checkups. Take your partner
out to
> dinner. Play another 18. There will always be time to clean the house
and
> fix the disposal."
> Take care of the golf balls first -- the things that really matter.
Set
your
> priorities. The rest is just sand."
> One of the students raised her hand and inquired what the coffee
> represented.
> The professor smiled. "I'm glad you asked. It just goes to show you
that
no
> matter how full your life may seem, there's always room for a couple
of
cups
> of coffee with a friend."
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:41:25 -0600
From: Slim <stevenalm at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis - questioned
To: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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 What part of the message do you disagree with?

I disagree with most of it and I don't care who wrote it.  Life's just not
that crappy.  At least not for me.  (OK, maybe I do drink and smoke too much
but I'm working on that.)   Read it again and tell me that describes you in
your world.  If it does then you really do need to get to church--or
something.

Here's something more helpful.  I'm not a Buddhist but the words of the Dali
Lama always resonate for me.  And this really is by the Dali Lama but go
ahead and spend your time looking it up if you need to:

 INSTRUCTIONS FOR LIFE

 1.  Take into account that great love and great achievements involve great
risk.
 2.  When you lose, don't lose the lesson.
 3.  Follow the three R¹s:

Respect for self
 Respect for others and
 Responsibility for all your actions.

 4.  Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke
of luck.
 5.  Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly.
 6.  Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship.
 7.  When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to correct
it.
 8.  Spend some time alone every day.
 9.  Open your arms to change, but don't let go of your values.
 10. Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.
 11. Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back,
you'll be able to enjoy it a second time.
 12. A loving atmosphere in your home is the foundation for your life.
 13. In disagreements with loved ones deal only with the current situation.
Don't bring up the past.
 14. Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieve immortality.
 15. Be gentle with the earth.
 16. Once a year, go someplace you've never been before.
 17. Remember that the best relationship is one in which your love for each
other exceeds your need for each other.
 18. Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it.
 19. Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon.



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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 03:24:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Flying Pig Aground in Florida Keys
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Message-ID: <8843731.post at talk.nabble.com>
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Sailing vessel Flying Pig went aground in the mid Florida Keys.  See:
http://www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery/

"I sent this to the morgan sailnet list just now...

Please see that list for earlier mails and clarification - I apologize for
not having the time to duplicate that here...
 
L8R
 
Skip
Skip Gundlach   to Morgan 
 show details  2:29 pm (0 minutes ago)  

Please continue the dialogue going, as it's very comforting at the moment
but...
 
We are ashore, in the care of the Red Cross at the moment.  Aside from the
adrenalin rush and some bruises from being knocked around, we are entirely
fine physically. Mentally we're more than bummed, as you can guess. 
 
Until salvage operations commence, which due to the weather (the main
contributing factor to our blowing off course) won't be until tomorrow
morning at the earliest, we won't know the realities.  At a minimum, since
the boat will be taken to Marathon, we could use some temporary hospitality
there. 
 
There are definitely breaches in the starboard hull but the boat is very
high and dry at the moment, on its side. We don't know what the pounding
which caused a lot of flexing inside may have done to the bulkheads and
tabbing, but the reefer and settee and engine mounts were all moving notably
- not a really good sign. If there is any good news, the water was so
shallow that it never got to the floorboards, even with the very severe
heel, and when I went around shutting the through-hulls, I never got my
hands wet.  So, with any luck, the damage is mostly above the water line,
presumed somewhat simpler to address and less likely to affect the integrity
of the hull.  None the less, it's certain we'll be some months, if ever,
before we are back aboard, our only home, with every possession in the
world, having given away our car the day we left. 
 
At any event, we can still be reached via email, when we have access, which
will persist until tonight, at the Red Cross, and then at the Days Inn in
KWW, we expect, where we'll be for the next three days.  After that, we're
truly homeless (does being in the RC or a Days Inn relieve us from
homelessness?  The boat was our entire world - our home and every single
possession)... 
 
In any case, thank you for your prayers and thoughts. We're physically well,
and mental basket cases, though we are managing to get things done.  More as
we know more.  Feel free to pass this around to other lists on which we
participate, as you may be aware if you're on them, too, from having seen
our posts in those.  Right now we're a bit busy to do that ourselves... 
 
L8R
 
Love from Skip and Lydia, Homeless...
-- 
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig   KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery!
Follow us at theflyingpiglog at yahoogroups.com and
flyingpiglog at googlegroups.com 

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didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. 
Dream. Discover."   - Mark Twain 

 




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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 06:58:56 EST
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis - questioned
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Message-ID: <c4b.e010739.32fb1900 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Slim,
Say it ain't so? You mean your going to quit smoking and drinking? Did the  
world stop spinning while I was sleeping or what?
 
Rummy

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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 04:54:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis - questioned
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Message-ID: <8844855.post at talk.nabble.com>
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Captain Rummy:

     All Slim said was, "OK, maybe I do drink and smoke too much
but I'm working on that."  He did not say he was quiting.  However, he is
getting older and maybe wiser?  Maybe he is questioning the effect of second
hand smoke at home?  Having seen what I have seen in the medical field and
knowing the influence of the the Tobacco industry, I am willing to bet that
there is a significant correlation between second hand smoke and breast
cancer.  However, that study will never be done.  So maybe Slim is just
thinking outloud.  

R22RumRunner wrote:
> 
> Slim,
> Say it ain't so? You mean your going to quit smoking and drinking? Did the  
> world stop spinning while I was sleeping or what?
>  
> Rummy
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:17:27 -0500
From: Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis - questioned - now Tenzin
    Gyatso
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <45C9D167.E5A1118 at squirrelhaven.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Slim -

I love the sentiments in your contribution, and agree 
that they are much more positive than the piece falsely 
attributed to George Carlin - but:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/dalai.asp

Sorry, Slim.  While I have immense respect for the 14th 
Dalai Lama, and could imagine him saying some of these 
things, some others are not of his mind.

/Robert
-----------------------------------------------------
Slim wrote:
> 
>  What part of the message do you disagree with?
> 
> I disagree with most of it and I don't care who wrote it.  Life's just not
> that crappy.  At least not for me.  (OK, maybe I do drink and smoke too much
> but I'm working on that.)   Read it again and tell me that describes you in
> your world.  If it does then you really do need to get to church--or
> something.
> 
> Here's something more helpful.  I'm not a Buddhist but the words of the Dali
> Lama always resonate for me.  And this really is by the Dali Lama but go
> ahead and spend your time looking it up if you need to:
> 
>  INSTRUCTIONS FOR LIFE...

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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:37:45 -0600
From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Math Challenge
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID:
    <400985d70702070537i4a45e640i15b30622b9a6eea4 at mail.gmail.com>
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Ok boys and girls, can we at least agree on something?  For math challenged
folks like me there is a new video series to explain all the math
fundamentals I never could quite grasp in school. Is this a great leap
forward in education or what?

Brad

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7172438422483406719

------------------------------

Message: 24
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 05:39:05 -0800 (PST)
From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis - questioned - now Tenzin
    Gyatso
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <988769.50861.qm at web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Robert, et al,

While we're posting lists and exposing false
attribution, why not go back to the grandaddy of them
all: the ten commandments. No problem with attribution
for that list.

;^)elle


--- Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:

> Slim -
> 
> I love the sentiments in your contribution, and
> agree 
> that they are much more positive than the piece
> falsely 
> attributed to George Carlin - but:
> 
> http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/dalai.asp
> 
> Sorry, Slim.  While I have immense respect for the
> 14th 
> Dalai Lama, and could imagine him saying some of
> these 
> things, some others are not of his mind.
> 
> /Robert
>
-----------------------------------------------------
> Slim wrote:
> > 
> >  What part of the message do you disagree with?
> > 
> > I disagree with most of it and I don't care who
> wrote it.  Life's just not
> > that crappy.  At least not for me.  (OK, maybe I
> do drink and smoke too much
> > but I'm working on that.)   Read it again and tell
> me that describes you in
> > your world.  If it does then you really do need to
> get to church--or
> > something.
> > 
> > Here's something more helpful.  I'm not a Buddhist
> but the words of the Dali
> > Lama always resonate for me.  And this really is
> by the Dali Lama but go
> > ahead and spend your time looking it up if you
> need to:
> > 
> >  INSTRUCTIONS FOR LIFE...
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> www.rhodes22.org/list
> 


We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.


 
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:49:19 -0500
From: Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis - questioned - now Tenzin
    Gyatso
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <45C9D8DF.79100C3D at squirrelhaven.com>
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I'll check on that and get back to you.

In the mean time, I've got to deal with
some jerk who keeps building fires under 
my bushes.  Maybe I can find him up on 
the hill...

/Robert

elle wrote:
> 
> Robert, et al,
> 
> While we're posting lists and exposing false
> attribution, why not go back to the grandaddy of them
> all: the ten commandments. No problem with attribution
> for that list.
> 
> ;^)elle

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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 07:53:37 -0600
From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carlin and Sis - questioned - now Tenzin
    Gyatso
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID:
    <400985d70702070553v7f2d1466gec3fd8a881756180 at mail.gmail.com>
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I can't remember if this was previously posted but the timing is right for
it again.  Brad

-----------------------


*George W. Bush Meets Moses*

George W. Bush was walking through an airport last week, when he saw an old
man with white hair, a long white beard, wearing a long white robe and
holding a staff. He walked up to the man, who was staring at the ceiling,
and "Excuse me sir, aren't you Moses?"

The man stood perfectly still and continued to stare at the ceiling, saying
nothing. Again, George W. asked, a little louder this time, "Excuse me sir,
aren't you Moses?" Again, the old man stared at the ceiling motionless
without saying a word. George W. tried a third time, louder yet. "Excuse me
sir, aren't you Moses?" Again, no movement or words from the old man. He
continued to stare at the ceiling.

One of George W's aides asked him if there was a problem, and George W.
said, "Either this man is deaf or extremely rude. I have asked him three
times if he was Moses, and he has not answered me yet." To which the man,
still staring at the ceiling finally replied to the aide, "I can hear him
and yes, I am Moses, but the last time I spoke to a bush, I spent 40 years
wandering in the wilderness."



On 2/7/07, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Robert, et al,
>
> While we're posting lists and exposing false
> attribution, why not go back to the grandaddy of them
> all: the ten commandments. No problem with attribution
> for that list.
>
> ;^)elle
>
>
> --- Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>
> > Slim -
> >
> > I love the sentiments in your contribution, and
> > agree
> > that they are much more positive than the piece
> > falsely
> > attributed to George Carlin - but:
> >
> > http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/dalai.asp
> >
> > Sorry, Slim.  While I have immense respect for the
> > 14th
> > Dalai Lama, and could imagine him saying some of
> > these
> > things, some others are not of his mind.
> >
> > /Robert
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------
> > Slim wrote:
> > >
> > >  What part of the message do you disagree with?
> > >
> > > I disagree with most of it and I don't care who
> > wrote it.  Life's just not
> > > that crappy.  At least not for me.  (OK, maybe I
> > do drink and smoke too much
> > > but I'm working on that.)   Read it again and tell
> > me that describes you in
> > > your world.  If it does then you really do need to
> > get to church--or
> > > something.
> > >
> > > Here's something more helpful.  I'm not a Buddhist
> > but the words of the Dali
> > > Lama always resonate for me.  And this really is
> > by the Dali Lama but go
> > > ahead and spend your time looking it up if you
> > need to:
> > >
> > >  INSTRUCTIONS FOR LIFE...
> > __________________________________________________
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
> >
>
>
> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Have a burning question?
> Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>

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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:38:41 -0500
From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Math Challenge
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <45C9E471.5040106 at effros.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Keep it comin' Brad

Bill Effros

Brad Haslett wrote:
> Ok boys and girls, can we at least agree on something?  For math 
> challenged
> folks like me there is a new video series to explain all the math
> fundamentals I never could quite grasp in school. Is this a great leap
> forward in education or what?
>
> Brad
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7172438422483406719
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>

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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:04:03 -0500
From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <00c701c74ac9$34d49f20$58ac52c6 at cntrlsrvs.w2k.vt.edu>
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Bill,
As Ed has suggested, the tongue weight will depend on how you have your boat
loaded and how old your boat is.  The most important thing is to HAVE some
tongue weight.  I've seen things towed with little or no tongue weight just
waiting to pop off.  But you will know when you hook your boat to your
vehicle if you have weight on the tongue or not.  Just learn to load your
boat the same way every time.  My motor and gas tanks come off the boat and
go into my truck.  Some people leave theirs on the boat but when I tried
that, I couldn't get enough weight on the tongue.  Really, what I've found
to be the key is correctly loading the boat on the trailer.  Take note of
where the bow stripe lines up the bow stop on the trailer.  Note where the
boat sits on the bunks and where the keel lines up with the trailer.
Duplicated those positions each time and you won't have any problems.  I
towed my boat from St. Louis to SW Virginia when I bought it.  Wasn't quite
enough tongue weight as I could only go about 60 without the trailer
swaying.  So I drove the whole way at 60.  Can't really adjust the boat on
the trailer on the highway. - rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight


>
> Bill D:
>
>      First, relax, you can move a Rhodes 22 on a trailer in the wrong
> position resulting in wrong tongue weight.  The only issues are at what
> speed.  If it is more than a couple of inches off, you just have to be
> carefull over 70 mph and going down hill.  If you go 55 you just do not
have
> the problems.
>      If you are going to Edenton to get your boat, ask that Elton be
there,
> he moves more boats and goes more distant places than Stan does these
days.
>       The correct tongue weight is a variable.  Older boats, that is
> recycled weigh less than brand new boats, therefore need less tongue
weight.
> The kind and size of the motor are factors.  I have an 8 hp 2 cycle
Tohotsu
> and it only weighs 60 pounds.  I can move it myself.  If you get a 9.9
four
> stoker, it takes two people to move and affect tongue weight more if you
> leave it on.  So if you have the heavier motor you have to have the boat
> more foreward.
>        Yes, you can launch and retrieve a Rhodes 22 by yourself.  It is
just
> faster and easier with two.  Especially when one of the helpers is Rummy.
>        Now if you really want to know the answers, look here:
>
http://search.ask.com/web?q=tongue+weight+site%3Arhodes22.org+&qsrc=1&o=0&l=dir
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
>
>
>
>
> bill davidge wrote:
> >
> > Rob
> >    I have a Dodge Dakota pick up and in the manual they call for 10% .So
> > how hard is to get 350-450 lb,s on the tongue ? Is there a way of
getting
> > it close before you  pull out of the water?
> >    Stan will help me when I pick up my boat , however can one person do
it
> > by himself? The web sit had lot's of info but I don't think it will take
> > one of there scales .
> >
> > Bill D.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:23:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
> >
> >
> > Bill,
> > Somewhere between enough to keep the boat from fishtailing when
trailering
> > (too light) and from overloading the rear of the towing vehicle (too
> > much).
> > Seriously, I know this has been discussed and don't recall the numbers.
I
> > know it on my vehicle when I see it.  Anyone recall that discussion
(yes,
> > I
> > know you can search the archives, but I did and didn't find it).  During
> > that discussion, I bookmarked this web site.  I believe there a couple
of
> > people who use this scale.  But it's more than you want to know about
> > towing.  But based on my single axle trailer and a 3500 pound boat
(+/-),
> > about 350-400 pounds??
> >
> > http://www.sherline.com/lmbook.htm
> >
> > - Rob
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "bill davidge" <wpdavidge at yahoo.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
> >
> >
> > Rob,  can you please  tell me what the normal tongue weight is when
> > pulling
> > a Rhodes 22.
> >
> >
> >   Thanks Bill  D .
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:05:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] farewell Phoenix
> >
> >
> > Peter,
> > I hope those guys did make it back safely.  Looks like there is not much
> > tongue weight if any on the ball.  The boat looks like it perched right
at
> > the center of gravity. - rob
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
> > To: "Rhodes 22 List Members" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:17 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] farewell Phoenix
> >
> >
> >> Glacier
> >> Hello Rhodies~
> >>
> >> Phoenix is gone and it's pretty hard for me to keep the grin off my
face!
> >>
> >> Paul Minor, owner of Bath Harbor Marina (Bath, NC) is the proud new
> >> owner.
> >> Bath isn't too far from Edenton, so maybe Stan will take pity on him
and
> >> help with spare parts.  Paul plans to keep his helper Irv working all
> > winter
> >> getting Phoenix ready to be part of his rental fleet.  This seems like
an
> >> appropriate next place for that tough old boat to go.
> >>
> >> Paul has also answered the question "Will a Rhodes 22 fit on at
Catalina
> > 22
> >> trailer?"  Answer:  Just barely.  (Can you see the logs shoring the
keel
> > to
> >> the trailer?)  I hope they make it back to Bath safely...
> >>
> >> Good luck and fair winds to Paul, Irv and Phoenix!
> >>
> >> PT
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > ----
> >
> >
> >> Name: P1010006.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 943964 bytes Desc: not
> >> available
> >> Url:
> >
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> >>
> >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > ----
> >
> >
> >> Name: P1010005.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 996599 bytes Desc: not
> >> available
> >> Url:
> >
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> >>
> >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > ----
> >
> >
> >> __________________________________________________
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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Message: 29
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:07:41 EST
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Message-ID: <bc6.c98615d.32fb453d at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

You can't adjust the boat on the trailer, but you can rearrange the weight  
within the boat. Moving a hundred pounds to the V berth makes a lot of  
difference.
 
Rummy

------------------------------

Message: 30
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:12:11 -0600
From: "Wickman, William E" <WEWickman at spectraenergy.com>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Math Challenge
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID:
    <94A8ED2567DD834F9697C1D02DC4DB30699F64 at gtnahoum01.gtna.gt.ds>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

I still had trouble understanding.  Had to play the video several times
before I got it.

Bill W.


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad Haslett
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:38 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Math Challenge

Ok boys and girls, can we at least agree on something?  For math
challenged
folks like me there is a new video series to explain all the math
fundamentals I never could quite grasp in school. Is this a great leap
forward in education or what?

Brad

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7172438422483406719
__________________________________________________
Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list

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Message: 31
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:24:31 -0500
From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <00d501c74acc$10934820$58ac52c6 at cntrlsrvs.w2k.vt.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="iso-8859-1"

I know that now!  That was my first time towing a boat and I just wanted to
get it home, so I just drove slow. - rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight


> You can't adjust the boat on the trailer, but you can rearrange the weight
> within the boat. Moving a hundred pounds to the V berth makes a lot of
> difference.
>
> Rummy
> __________________________________________________
> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list



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Message: 32
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:41:36 -0500
From: Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Blonde Joke
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID:
    <c319c8b50702070741q483c834ap3cb8d7ecef423574 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Blind man wanders into a biker bar by mistake.  He finds his way to a bar
stool and orders a drink.  After sitting there for a while, he yells to the
bartender, "Hey, you wanna hear a blonde joke?"

The bar immediately falls absolutely quiet. In a very deep, husky voice,
the woman next to him says, "Before you tell that joke, sir, I think it is
only fair -- given that you are blind -- that you should know five things:

1. The bartender is a blonde girl with a baseball bat.
2. The bouncer is a blonde girl.
3. I'm a 6 foot tall, 175 lb. blonde woman with a black belt in karate.
4. The woman sitting next to me is blonde and a professional weightlifter.
5. The lady to your right is blonde and a professional wrestler.

Now, think about it seriously, mister.  Do you still wanna tell that joke?"

The blind man thinks for a second, shakes his head, and mutters, "Nah...not
if I'm gonna have to explain it five times."

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Message: 33
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:55:34 -0500
From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] How To Adjust Boat On Trailer On Highway
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <45C9F676.3070707 at effros.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Rob,

Keep a bottle jack in your tow vehicle.

To adjust the boat, put a piece of wood under the bottle jack, under the 
keel.  Put a piece of wood between the bottle jack and the keel.

Jack up the boat slightly to get the full weight off the bunks.

Move the trailer to the desired location while the boat remains 
stationary, supported by the jack.

Lower the boat back onto the trailer.

Repeat until you get the boat just where you want it.

Bill Effros



Rob Lowe wrote:
> Bill,
> As Ed has suggested, the tongue weight will depend on how you have your boat
> loaded and how old your boat is.  The most important thing is to HAVE some
> tongue weight.  I've seen things towed with little or no tongue weight just
> waiting to pop off.  But you will know when you hook your boat to your
> vehicle if you have weight on the tongue or not.  Just learn to load your
> boat the same way every time.  My motor and gas tanks come off the boat and
> go into my truck.  Some people leave theirs on the boat but when I tried
> that, I couldn't get enough weight on the tongue.  Really, what I've found
> to be the key is correctly loading the boat on the trailer.  Take note of
> where the bow stripe lines up the bow stop on the trailer.  Note where the
> boat sits on the bunks and where the keel lines up with the trailer.
> Duplicated those positions each time and you won't have any problems.  I
> towed my boat from St. Louis to SW Virginia when I bought it.  Wasn't quite
> enough tongue weight as I could only go about 60 without the trailer
> swaying.  So I drove the whole way at 60.  Can't really adjust the boat on
> the trailer on the highway. - rob
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:39 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
>
>
>   
>> Bill D:
>>
>>      First, relax, you can move a Rhodes 22 on a trailer in the wrong
>> position resulting in wrong tongue weight.  The only issues are at what
>> speed.  If it is more than a couple of inches off, you just have to be
>> carefull over 70 mph and going down hill.  If you go 55 you just do not
>>     
> have
>   
>> the problems.
>>      If you are going to Edenton to get your boat, ask that Elton be
>>     
> there,
>   
>> he moves more boats and goes more distant places than Stan does these
>>     
> days.
>   
>>       The correct tongue weight is a variable.  Older boats, that is
>> recycled weigh less than brand new boats, therefore need less tongue
>>     
> weight.
>   
>> The kind and size of the motor are factors.  I have an 8 hp 2 cycle
>>     
> Tohotsu
>   
>> and it only weighs 60 pounds.  I can move it myself.  If you get a 9.9
>>     
> four
>   
>> stoker, it takes two people to move and affect tongue weight more if you
>> leave it on.  So if you have the heavier motor you have to have the boat
>> more foreward.
>>        Yes, you can launch and retrieve a Rhodes 22 by yourself.  It is
>>     
> just
>   
>> faster and easier with two.  Especially when one of the helpers is Rummy.
>>        Now if you really want to know the answers, look here:
>>
>>     
> http://search.ask.com/web?q=tongue+weight+site%3Arhodes22.org+&qsrc=1&o=0&l=dir
>   
>> Ed K
>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> bill davidge wrote:
>>     
>>> Rob
>>>    I have a Dodge Dakota pick up and in the manual they call for 10% .So
>>> how hard is to get 350-450 lb,s on the tongue ? Is there a way of
>>>       
> getting
>   
>>> it close before you  pull out of the water?
>>>    Stan will help me when I pick up my boat , however can one person do
>>>       
> it
>   
>>> by himself? The web sit had lot's of info but I don't think it will take
>>> one of there scales .
>>>
>>> Bill D.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu>
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:23:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>> Somewhere between enough to keep the boat from fishtailing when
>>>       
> trailering
>   
>>> (too light) and from overloading the rear of the towing vehicle (too
>>> much).
>>> Seriously, I know this has been discussed and don't recall the numbers.
>>>       
> I
>   
>>> know it on my vehicle when I see it.  Anyone recall that discussion
>>>       
> (yes,
>   
>>> I
>>> know you can search the archives, but I did and didn't find it).  During
>>> that discussion, I bookmarked this web site.  I believe there a couple
>>>       
> of
>   
>>> people who use this scale.  But it's more than you want to know about
>>> towing.  But based on my single axle trailer and a 3500 pound boat
>>>       
> (+/-),
>   
>>> about 350-400 pounds??
>>>
>>> http://www.sherline.com/lmbook.htm
>>>
>>> - Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "bill davidge" <wpdavidge at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tongue Weight
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob,  can you please  tell me what the normal tongue weight is when
>>> pulling
>>> a Rhodes 22.
>>>
>>>
>>>   Thanks Bill  D .
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Rob Lowe <rlowe at vt.edu>
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:05:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] farewell Phoenix
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter,
>>> I hope those guys did make it back safely.  Looks like there is not much
>>> tongue weight if any on the ball.  The boat looks like it perched right
>>>       
> at
>   
>>> the center of gravity. - rob
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
>>> To: "Rhodes 22 List Members" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:17 PM
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] farewell Phoenix
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Glacier
>>>> Hello Rhodies~
>>>>
>>>> Phoenix is gone and it's pretty hard for me to keep the grin off my
>>>>         
> face!
>   
>>>> Paul Minor, owner of Bath Harbor Marina (Bath, NC) is the proud new
>>>> owner.
>>>> Bath isn't too far from Edenton, so maybe Stan will take pity on him
>>>>         
> and
>   
>>>> help with spare parts.  Paul plans to keep his helper Irv working all
>>>>         
>>> winter
>>>       
>>>> getting Phoenix ready to be part of his rental fleet.  This seems like
>>>>         
> an
>   
>>>> appropriate next place for that tough old boat to go.
>>>>
>>>> Paul has also answered the question "Will a Rhodes 22 fit on at
>>>>         
> Catalina
>   
>>> 22
>>>       
>>>> trailer?"  Answer:  Just barely.  (Can you see the logs shoring the
>>>>         
> keel
>   
>>> to
>>>       
>>>> the trailer?)  I hope they make it back to Bath safely...
>>>>
>>>> Good luck and fair winds to Paul, Irv and Phoenix!
>>>>
>>>> PT
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>       
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>>>
>>>       
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>> http://www.nabble.com/file/6288/Dec%2006%20Red%20Rhodes%20001.jpg Dec 06
>>     
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>   
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