[Rhodes22-list] Environment

Thu Feb 22 20:42:18 EST 2007

Brad,

I guess I replaced 95 percent of our incandescents with curlys, probably 
35 or forty bulbs, give ot take. The only incandescents left, don't get 
turned on much, if at all. Seems like the power bill dropped 8 or 10 
bucks a month. I believe, our power is relatively cheap (like 6 1/4 
cents KWH, I wanna say) compared to some other areas of the country, so 
If I'm seeing this much, those with spendy power should feel quite an 
impact. At the rate I'm going, the bulbs should payback in a couple years.

As to lumens, after they warm up in a couple minutes, I don't see a lot 
of difference. Anywhere I had 60s before, I have 60 equivilants (23 
watt, I think) now. All the mutiple bulb lights like the 5 bulb light in 
the dining room, all have 40 equiviants (7 watt?) in them ..... lots of 
light.

Rik

Brad Haslett wrote:
> Ok folks, here is a quick and 'clean' thought.  I'm not preaching, but we
> have been switching to these bulbs as the old ones burn out.  They aren't
> cheap, and I don't know where the break-even point is, but you feel 
> better
> and it gives you a certain environ-snobbery arguing position.  You can 
> buy
> them at SamsClub, WalMart, and other eco-friendly stores.
>
> Brad
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> Australia to ban old-style light bulbs
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> By ROHAN SULLIVAN, Associated Press WriterTue Feb 20, 6:26 PM ET
>
> The Australian government on Tuesday announced plans to phase out
> incandescent light bulbs and replace them with more energy-efficient 
> compact
> fluorescent bulbs across the country.
>
> Legislation to gradually restrict the sale of the old-style bulbs could
> reduce Australia's greenhouse gas emissions by 4 million tons by 2012 and
> cut household power bills by up to 66 percent, said Environment Minister
> Malcolm Turnbull.
>
> Australia produced almost 565 million tons of greenhouse gases in 2004,
> official figures show.
>
> Prime Minister John Howard said the plan would help all Australians 
> play a
> part in cutting harmful gas emissions: "Here's something practical that
> everybody will participate in."
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> In incandescent light bulbs, perfected for mass use by Thomas A. 
> Edison in
> the late 19th century, electricity flows through a filament to create 
> light.
> Much of the energy, however, is wasted in the form of heat.
>
> Australia is not the only place looking to replace them with fluorescent
> lighting, which is more efficient and longer lasting.
>
> Last month, a California assemblyman announced he would propose a bill to
> ban the use of incandescent bulbs in his state. And a New Jersey lawmaker
> has called for the state to switch to fluorescent lighting in government
> buildings within three years.
>
> Cuba's Fidel Castro launched a similar program two years ago, sending 
> youth
> brigades into homes and switching out regular bulbs for energy-saving 
> ones
> to help battle electrical blackouts around the island.
>
> The idea was later embraced by Castro's friend and ally, Venezuelan
> President Hugo Chavez, who announced his own program to save energy 
> and in
> recent months has given away millions of fluorescent bulbs in 
> neighborhoods
> nationwide.
>
> Under the Australian plan, bulbs that do not comply with energy 
> efficiency
> targets would be gradually banned from sale. Exemptions may apply for
> special needs such as medical lighting and oven lights.
>
> Fluorescent bulbs are currently more expensive than incandescent 
> bulbs, but
> use only about 20 percent of the power to produce the same amount of 
> light
> and last longer, making them more competitive over time, advocates argue.
>
> Environmentalists welcomed the light bulb plan, but noted than the 
> vast bulk
> of Australia's greenhouse gas emissions come from industry, such as
> coal-fired power stations.
>
> They urged the government to set national targets for emission reductions
> and renewable energy.
>
> "It is a good, positive step. But it is a very small step. It needs to be
> followed through with a lot of different measures," Australian 
> Conservation
> Foundation spokesman Josh Meadows told Australian Broadcasting Corp. 
> radio.
>
> Howard has become a global warming convert, conceding in recent months 
> for
> the first time that human activity is having an effect on rising
> temperatures.
>
> But he has steadfastly refused to bring Australia into line with most 
> of the
> world and ratify the Kyoto protocol on greenhouse gas reductions, arguing
> that doing so could damage Australia's coal-dependent economy.
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