[Rhodes22-list] TGGW

Ronald Lipton rlipton at earthlink.net
Sat Jan 13 14:35:01 EST 2007


Bud,

   The oceans play a huge part in the global climate.  They act as a big
buffer, absorbing and releasing CO2 and warming and cooling at a lower
rate then the atmosphere.  Climate models have to get this right if they 
have
any chance of modeling temperatures.

Having said that, the energy in an A bomb may seem large, but it is really
negligible on the scale of the thermal mass of the ocean or atmosphere.
Hurricanes are much more of an effect than a cause.  One natural phenomenon
that does have a observable, though temporary, effect are large volcanic
eruptions.  They throw enough particulate matter into the atmosphere to
affect the amount of sunlight penetrating the atmosphere.  Climate models
have used recent eruptions to test the accuracy of their predictions.

Ron


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud" <budconnor at earthhlink.net>
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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] TGGW


> How about this as a theory....
>   the oceans are warmed by the sun, and then give up their energy via 
> evaporation, transferring
> that energy as heat to the atmosphere - at some given rate.  Now suppose 
> hurricanes also convert
> the ocean's thermal energy to the atmosphere, BUT at a much faster rate, 
> such that a hurricane
> significantly contributes  to global warming.  Thus, more tropical storms 
> (hurricanes/cylones/typhones)
> equate to a faster warming of the atmosphere. Obviously hurricanes also 
> convert some of the ocean thermal
> energy to kinetic energy and damage lots of objects in it's path.  At one 
> time I had read something
> that equated the amount of energy released by a hurricane to the level of 
> an atomic bomb.
>
> -Bud
>
>
>
> Geankoplis wrote:
>
>>Energy is never destroyed; it is only converted into other forms.  The
>>thermal energy of the heat is converted to kinetic energy, or transferred 
>>to
>>the atmosphere.  Think of the Hurricane as a package of energy of several
>>types leaking all over the place and trying to reach some sort of
>>equilibrium by transferring the energy from an area of high thermal energy
>>(tropics) to one of low thermal energy (higher latitudes).
>>
>>Chris G
>>
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>>Bud,
>>Hurricanes actually destroy/consume heat energy.
>> Rummy
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