[Rhodes22-list] Question for Brad about Iraq Information (political)

Brad Haslett flybrad at gmail.com
Tue Jul 10 13:37:44 EDT 2007


Wally,

Could you please explain the fluff?  While you're doing some "higher level"
thinking, what is your solution to Al Quaeda?  Should we negotiate?  Give me
their cell phone number and I'll ask them myself what they want!  Al Quaeda
IS in Iraq.  What is the cost of leaving them there?  That IS the question,
Sir!  How they got there or who is responsible is immaterial at this point
(oh shit, I used another accounting term).  What is the alternative
solution?  Inquiring minds want to know!

Brad

On 7/10/07, TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ed, Talk about fluff...the article posted is full of it. I am not sure if
> people are really stupid enough to fall for such a limited viewpoint. What
> you and the author don't get.... It is possible to recognize both the
> folly
> in attacking Iraq AND  that Al Quaeda and like want to kill us. It is not
> one or the other....some of us have the ability to think at a higher level
> and look for different solutions to a problem. It is also possible to
> recognize that we are doing some good in Iraq while questioning the cost.
> .
>
> Wally
>
> On 7/10/07, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Brad:
> >
> > In the past few weeks, you sent several web references about Iraq.  And
> I
> > have Yon's homepage from my search for his famous picture.
> >
> > Somewhere amongst the web information was a paragraph that Yon reported
> > about what U. S. surge forces found in an area that had been recently
> > under
> > control of Al Qaeda in Iraq.  That paragraph is being widely reported
> > about
> > on certain media the last couple of days.
> >
> > That paragraph discussed the way Al Qaeda was treating local Iraqis in
> > areas
> > that they controlled.  Specifically just killing families occupying
> houses
> > that they wanted and the incident where they invited a family to dinner
> > and
> > served them their 11 year old son baked like a pig with an apple stuffed
> > in
> > his mouth.
> >
> > I saw the aforementioned paragraph, but can no longer find it.  By
> chance
> > do
> > you have the web site where it is posted?
> >
> > Ed K
> > Greenville, SC, USA
> > Addendum:
> >
> > Why the Peaceful Majority is Irrelevant
> > By Paul Marek
> > FrontPageMagazine.com | March 1, 2006
> >
> > I used to know a man whose family were German aristocracy prior to World
> > War
> > Two. They owned a number of large industries and estates. I asked him
> how
> > many German people were true Nazis, and the answer he gave has stuck
> with
> > me
> > and guided my attitude toward fanaticism ever since.
> >
> > "Very few people were true Nazis" he said,
> >
> > "but, many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too
> busy
> > to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of
> > fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then,
> before
> > we
> > knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the
> world
> > had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp
> > and
> > the Allies destroyed my factories."
> >
> > We are told again and again by "experts" and "talking heads" that Islam
> is
> > the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want
> to
> > live in peace.
> >
> > Although this unquantified assertion may be true, it is entirely
> > irrelevant.
> > It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to
> > somehow
> > diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name
> of
> > Islam. The fact is, that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in
> > history.
> > It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50
> > shooting wars world wide. It is the fanatics who systematically
> slaughter
> > Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking
> over
> > the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb,
> > behead, murder, or honor kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque
> > after
> > mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging
> of
> > rape victims and homosexuals. The hard quantifiable fact is, that the
> > "peaceful majority" is the "silent majority" and it is cowed and
> > extraneous.
> >
> >
> > Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in
> > peace,
> > yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20
> > million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China's huge
> > population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill
> a
> > staggering 70 million people.
> >
> > The Average Japanese individual prior to World War 2 was not a
> > warmongering
> > sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East
> Asia
> > in an orgy of Killing that included the systematic killing of 12 million
> > Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet. And, who
> can
> > forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that
> > the
> > majority of Rwandans were "peace loving".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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