[Rhodes22-list] Aft stay pulled loose

[Geankoplis]

Rob,
   I actually abandoned the old chain plate that was screwed into the
underside of the plywood core and then took a right angle turn up to emerge
on the cabin roof.  The new/replacement chain plate instead was installed on
the cabin sides so they were slightly outboard of the original ones.

Chris

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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rob Lowe
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:35 AM
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Chris,
Thanks for the explanation.  I think I follow what you are suggesting.  If I
understand your suggestion, you are cutting into the cabin roof from below?
I'm in general agreement, seems the best way to fix it is open up the area
from below and somehow reattach the chainplate and recover the whole mess.
It sounds like (from John's post) that I'm in no immediate danger of loosing
the mast (the advantages to 8 other stays) but it should be addressed.  I'll
take pictures this weekend and post and see if any other advice comes in.

Does anyone know how this chainplate is originally installed?  Just imbedded
into the cabin top or is there some sort of mechanical attachment that has
broken?

Rob Lowe
' 76 S/V Getaway

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From: "Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Aft stay pulled loose


> Hey Rob,
> I had the same problem in spades with my old '76 after it was rolled
> and pole-vaulted in the "Pot" at Poplar Island on the Chesapeake courtesy
of
> a tornado; I think it was in '79.  As a result of the Coast Guard trying
to
> right the "capsized" boat (13 feet of the mast was in the mud) they bent
the
> mast and pulled 2 chainplates out before giving up.  I cut off the semi
> pulled plates off, ground them to 1/4 inch below the gel coat then epoxied
> and gell coated over.  I then cut out a an inverted "T" shaped area about
4
> inches tall and the "top" of the "T" was where the liner made the turn to
go
> under the side decks.  The "T" was about 3/4 inch wide on the vertical and
> horizontal parts.  I then cut a slot and slid in the new 6" chain plate so
> it rose above the cabin roof the appropriate height.  I secured it by
> drilling 2 or 3 holes in the cabin side and through bolding it the plate
> with ss bolts from the outside.  I then ran a cross piece about 4" long at
> the bottom of the chain plate and drilled and through-bolted that also,
> hence the upside down "T" configuration.  I then cut a nice piece of 1/2
> inch mahogany or teak, routed the edges nicely, and drilled two or three
> holes in the backside that corresponded with the bolts protruding inward
and
> holding the chain plates.  This wooden cover than just snapped over the
> bolts and stayed in place.  As far as the strength of the system, I went
on
> to sail the boat for another 15 years with lots of heavy winds,
> thunderstorms and a number of Chesapeake white squalls not to mention two
> crossings of the Gulf Stream and never had a problem with either of the
> stays. Though this method might be a bit crude, it was easy to do and
> apparently engineered well enough to serve the purpose.  Perhaps someone
out
> there has a more elegant solution. Good luck.
>
> Chris G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rob Lowe
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 6:48 AM
> To: Rhodes List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Aft stay pulled loose
>
> Speaking of aft stays, but the boat in the water last week and got on her
> yesterday evening for a trial sail.  I noticed my aft inner stay was
loose.
> closer inspection determined it appears the chain plate has pulled out of
> the cabin top, perhaps an inch of so.  don't know if raising the mast last
> week is related, but could very well be.  A perhaps 1/4" hole was visible
on
> the chain plate that's not normally visible.  An inspection from in the
> cabin didn't help much as it's mounted above the cabin liner.  I didn't
put
> sails up because I didn't want to stress the rigging until I get this
fixed.
> Can't say I've seen this on the list before, any help out there?  sorry,
> don't have a photo of it right now but will get one next time I visit the
> boat.  thanks - rob
>
>
> Rob Lowe
> ' 76 S/V Getaway
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