[Rhodes22-list] rhodes 17 for sale - This is time for more infofrom the maker of Picnic 17

[Michael D. Weisner]

Stan,

I have been unable to locate much concerning Mr. Lucander from the age 
before the Internet (my, what did we do in the good ol' days?) although I 
did locate the following pages about the gentleman's accomplishments which 
may be of some general interest or bring back memories:

1.) Discussions on boatdesign.net by his son:
http://www.marinearchitecture.com/forums/printthread.php?t=3012

2.) A pdf of the Grosse Pointe News (Oct 20, 1950):
http://digitize.gp.lib.mi.us/digitize/newspapers/gpnews/1960-64/60/1960-10-20.pdf
featuring, on page 16, an ad for Nils Lucander, Jim Schudel & Jack Wagner of 
International Yacht Sales (a 17' F-Glas slp for $1,985!).  Also, on the same 
page is an article entitled "Boat Banter" which describes the trio as 
follows:

"New blood has been added to the local boat brokerage what with Ihe entrance 
of a couple of sailing skippcrs, Jack Wagner and Jim Schudel, into the 
International Yacht Sales, Inc. The pair join Nils Lucander, another racing 
skipper. in the new location on Jefferson Avenue at Eastlawn. Wagner 
formerly was coowner of the Class A yacht "Last Straw" a fcw years back with 
Dick Jefferys, and Schudel is a wcll knuwn and winning skipper in the 
popular Lightning class. He recently won the annual Bayvicw Lightning 
Invltational championship. Between the three partners they can boast of  65 
years boating experience. All are members of Bayview Yacht Club, the Detroit 
River Yachting Associaltion, Detroit Power Squadron and North American Yacht 
Racing Union."

Is this the Nils Lucander that you worked with in the sixties?  Did you know 
the other gents?

And to think, I thought that I knew the "old General Boats" back in the day 
before they moved south ...

Regards,
Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY


From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com> Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:39 AM
> OK:
>
> it was designed by ss and Nils Lucander, then unknown, today does have a 
> NA
> reputation.
>
> they were built for GB by outside contractors from KS to Nova Scotia 
> during
> the early sixties.
> about 300 were sold.
>
> this particular boat was built in the sixties and its e-Bay claims are
> inaccurate.
>
> It may be worth the price for its antique value.   Roger Macgregor tells 
> me
> it inspired his current skiing sailboat since the Picnic was advertised as 
> a
> sailboat and a motor boat with some ads showing it with a steering wheel 
> and
> 35 HP motor
> pulling two skiers.  It also came with an inboard jet motor but proved too
> noisy and hard to back up.
>
> ss
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:03 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] rhodes 17 for sale - This is time for more info
> from the maker of Picnic 17
>
>
>>
>> They claim that this is a 1981.  Hull I.D. says 86?  This boat looks like
>> it
>> was recently painted.  Is this a real General Boats product or a rip off.
>> Time for Stan to enlighten us.  They are using Stan's name inaddition to
>> Rhodes.  Is this Stan's original boat that he unloaded in 1981 after he
>> decided to quit the 17 market?
>>
>> Ed K
>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>
>>
>> W Buck-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> That is what i was thinking....still looked like a nice boat.
>>>
>>> Wally
>>>
>>> On 6/27/07, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It was my understanding that Rhodes only got involved for the 22.
>>>> We'll have to let Stan chime in for the authoritative word but I
>>>> think this should be the GB Picnic 17 or the Spitzer Picnic 17.
>>>>
>>>> Mary Lou
>>>> 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>> Rock Hall, MD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 08:39 AM 6/27/2007, you wrote:
>>>> >Interesting....I haven't seen many pics of the 17. Did Rhodes really
>>>> design
>>>> >this craft?
>>>> >
>>>> >Wally
>>>> >
>>>> >On 6/27/07, john Belanger <jhnblngr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > there's a rhodes picnic 17 on ebay. 1 day 17hrs to go.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ---------------------------------
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