[Rhodes22-list] Apple virtuality

[Robert Skinner]

Thank you, Ron, for the scoop on Mac virtuality.

After an horrible experience trying to do some modeling 
on an Apple 2 in Apple BASIC, I jumped to CP/M, then
MP/M, writing a task dispatcher for the latter ill-fated OS.

When the PC came out using the Seattle Microsystems DOS-86 
(skillfully ripped off and relabeled by Gates), I was a 
bit concerned, having been abused by Gates' FORTRAN for 
CP/M.  I have had to stay on board with the MS progression 
of DOS to Windows because of customer's requirements for 
the wide range of software that runs on Windows.

Windows has degenerated into a magnet for malware, and the
increasingly invasive character of Windows is even more
off-putting.  The lack of a secure kernel is a major
design flaw -- no amount of lipstick will make that pig
attractive.  I don't know how the designer of the elegant
VAX VMS operating system could have allowed that.

The advent of fully functional and very useful LINUX has 
opened a lot of doors, and the fusion of capabilities 
offered on the Apple platform is the icing on the cake.  
I wonder how long it will be before we see a universal 
platform and Apple's progression toward being an OS and 
commodity electronics shop?

/Robert

Ronald Lipton wrote:
> 
> Mr Lipton?
> 
> Fermi Linux is a home grown version of Red Hat.  It's used for the
> computer "farms" which are used for data analysis and
> acquisition.  The farms are typically a few hundred machines.  We
> actually tried windows for a while on one system and it was a complete
> disaster.
> 
> I have run Linux and Windows simultaneously on different windows on the
> Mac without any problems - but I didn't really do anything with them
> - just
> tried it to see if it really worked.
> 
> Parallels allows Windows and the Mac to share a folder, but not the full
> file system.  That feature is not available for Linux.
> 
> Ron
> On Mar 1, 2007, at 8:17 PM, Robert Skinner wrote:
> 
> > Thank you, Mr. Lipton.
> >
> > I am guessing that Fermi LINUX is grown in Fermi Labs?
> >
> > The rest of the info is quite illuminating - that XP
> > is happy without having its own dedicated hardware is
> > quite a testament to the "parallels Desktop".
> >
> > Can LINUX and XP be executing simultaneously?
> >
> > Can they share file systems?
> >
> > If you can spare a minute...
> > /Robert
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > Ronald Lipton wrote:
> >>
> >> I am using parallels Desktop.  The parallels software is pretty
> >> transparent.  The internet
> >> connections are passed though.  You can't tell it's an Apple if you
> >> don't look at the
> >> case. I installed windows XP, and registered it normally. I use Fermi
> >> Scientific Linux,
> >> which is a home grown extension of Red Hat.
> >>
> >> Ron
> >> On Mar 1, 2007, at 5:02 PM, Robert Skinner wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ronald Lipton wrote:
> >>>> ... I have
> >>>> windows and Linux installed and can run them as virtual machines...
> >>>
> >>> Very interesting -- and it raises questions:
> >>>
> >>> * What virtual engine are you using?
> >>> * Are you running stock Windows?
> >>>    - if so,
> >>>         = what version?
> >>>         = does it "phone home?"
> >>>    - if not, what package?
> >>> * What version of LINUX are you using?
> >>>
> >>> Hope you can spare a moment to help w/ answers.
> >>>
> >>> thank you,
> >>> /Robert
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