[Rhodes22-list] Potty question

[Bob-Leslie Fletcher]

Art,

Thanks for the thoughts.  The product we're using claims it's safe for 
septic tanks but the  issue probably warrants a little more checking.

Bob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Potty question


> Bob,
> I think you will want to be cautious about the use of deodorant if you 
> will be dumping into a septic tank.  I am told that the active ingredients 
> will destroy the bacterial decomposition process so important in the 
> septic field.
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Bob-Leslie Fletcher <tfl4625 at blackfoot.net>
>>Sent: Sep 13, 2007 12:37 AM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Potty question
>>
>>We have Stan's marine head/holding tank setup without a macerator pump and
>>have found a satisfactory answer the the scarcity of pump out stations on
>>our local lakes.  It's a home pump out system we use after we drag the 
>>boat
>>home from sailing.
>>
>>We bought a "Waste Caddy" that is a 28 gallon tank on wheels with a "big
>>gulp" manual pump that sucks our effluent from the holding tank through 
>>the
>>deck fitting in less than a minute.  There is plenty of tank capacity to 
>>let
>>us then flush the head, hoses and boat holding tank with fresh water that 
>>we
>>also pump into the caddy.
>>
>>We then wheel the caddy to our septic tank where I installed a 6" capped
>>sewer pipe through the septic tank lid.  I just open a valve in the bottom
>>of the caddy and gravity dump, then rinse the caddy also into the septic
>>tank.  The whole process takes about 30 minutes.
>>
>>The fittings on the waste caddy are designed so we don't spill a drop, and
>>if you have used a little tank deodorant there is no odor at any stage of
>>the process.
>>
>>The manufacturer also has a valve system that would let you pump out of 
>>the
>>waste caddy to something higher if you couldn't use a gravity flow dump. 
>>I
>>suppose you could even wheel in inside and discharge into a toilet if you
>>were on a municipal sewer system.
>>
>>West Marine sells the Caddy, but we got a little better price from Fore 
>>and
>>Aft Marine out of Madiera Beach, Florida.  It's tough to find on their web
>>site but it's there.
>>
>>Bob Fletcher
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Bob Keller" <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 5:13 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Potty question
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Joe,
>>> I have a little, ahem, experience with these things so let me chime 
>>> in...
>>>
>>> I had a marine head as a prerequisite from the start and am glad that I
>>> have one.  My wife is especially glad since she uses it more than me. 
>>> But
>>> I am also glad that I don't have to empty a portapotti.  I had Stan put 
>>> in
>>> the Y-valve and macerator pump and it is great-especially since the
>>> holding tank is so small and pump-out facilities are usually far apart.
>>> If you plan to overnight, cruise, weekend or otherwise stay on your boat 
>>> I
>>> would highly recommend the marine head and Y-valve system.  One thing 
>>> that
>>> I would change is to have GB give you easy access to the thru hull for 
>>> the
>>> macerator discharge because to access mine is extremely difficult - I 
>>> have
>>> to remove the battery and battery box and it is not easily done.  Have
>>> them cut you an access hole or some way to see it.  I don't like having
>>> thru hulls that I cannot see and cannot access and this is the only one
>>> (out of 4) that is inaccesible.
>>>
>>> As to the legality on inland lakes - it is true that there are some 
>>> issues
>>> depending on the state.  I was told that a Y-valve is illegal.  Since 
>>> then
>>> I have researched it more and talked to another DNR person and I believe
>>> that what is illegal is having a Y-valve that allows you to bypass the
>>> holding tank and go directly overboard.  The way mine is installed is
>>> preferable in that all waste goes to the holding tank and then there is
>>> deck discharge (pump-out) or bottom discharge through the Y-valve.  If
>>> that Y-valve is kept locked I believe it is OK-at least it was in GA 
>>> with
>>> the DNR guy that I spoke with.
>>>
>>> The downside to marine heads is the complication compared to a 
>>> portapotti.
>>> I had to rebuild mine last year (gaskets wear out) but it was easy and
>>> inexpensive and will probably last another 10 years.
>>>
>>> Bob K
>>> Yankee Clipper
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:12:16 -0400> From: joe.babb at comcast.net> To:
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Potty question> >
>>>> Hello All,> Sharon and I are looking forward to getting a recycled 
>>>> Rhodes
>>>> next > spring. We've indicated to Stan that we'd like to have the 
>>>> marine
>>>> head > and holding tank and macerator. Our only experience with potties
>>>> on > boats is with our portable potty on our 16 foot open fishing boat.
>>>> It > is really a plastic bucket with a toilet-like seat on it, enclosed
>>>> in > another plastic container. We can usually find a secluded cove or
>>>> else > use a privacy curtain hung from our bimini top when we need to 
>>>> use
>>>> the > potty. The first person to use it is the lucky one. The second
>>>> person > is greeted by a wet seat from condensation and also by the 
>>>> sight
>>>> and > smell from earlier use.> Most of our sailing will be on area 
>>>> lakes
>>>> in East Tennessee. But at > least once and maybe twice a year we'll be
>>>> able to do some coastal > cruising for a week at a
>>> time.> Could some of you share your opinions on pros and cons of 
>>> portable
>>>  > potties versus marine heads?> Thanks and Best Regards,> Joe Babb>
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