[Rhodes22-list] Potty question

Sat Sep 15 11:42:26 EDT 2007

I kind of screwed up the last message when I used spell check.  Obviously
the  presence of a graduate degree does not translate to being computer
literate. Anyway, I also agree with Mary Lou. After many years of using both
I elected to go with the portable potty for my new R-22.  Suggestion:  The
Pace salsa 64 oz. container (we got ours @ Sams) makes a perfect urinal in
addition to being able to cap it off and it is female friendly.

On 9/14/07, Alan Robertson <bigal_61 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Mary Lou.
>     26 years of Rhodes sailing-camping-overnighters convince us that the
> porta-potty is the way to go. Additionally we carry 4 West Marine  "Little
> John" hospital type urinal bottles (have female adaptor) for when we have so
> much equipment we have to move to get to the porta-potty or when beds are
> made up for the night and its tough to get to it.. Don't let any of the
> marine head people sway your good judgment as below; we agree completely!
> Alan & Barbara Robertson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mary Lou Troy<mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list<mailto: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Potty question
>
>
> Availability of pumpouts should also be considered. Depends where you
> sail.
>
> We have a portapottie. While dumping and cleaning isn't my favorite
> job, it's not all that bad. Certainly simpler to keep in working
> order. Here's what I said in response to an earlier question on the
> same subject:
> "To quote from "Sailing Small", "we decided that the cabin seemed
> roomier in the boats with a semi-enclosed head. We chose a portable
> toilet because it was simpler than a marine head. While pumpouts are
> widely available on the Chesapeake, there is always the chance we
> might want to trailer to places where pumpouts are unavailable. The
> portable toilet is easy enough to bring home to clean and we don't
> have to bother with fixing head problems at the marina."
> The more time we spend a marina with big boats, the happier I am with
> the portable toilet. People see to be always fixing head problems. We
> don't have any. Most of the time we just bring the head home to empty
> it. It takes only a minute or two to empty it and give it a good
> rinse. If we are out cruising, we generally stop every second or
> third day to stay at a marina, get a shower and empty the head. If we
> plan to be out longer, we do have an extra bottom with the holding
> tank for our portable toilet. It doubles the length of time we can be
> out."
>
>
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> At 09:01 PM 9/11/2007, you wrote:
> >Joe,
> >
> >  I think if the list were polled the ladies would opt for the head
> > & the guys would be happy with a bucket.
> >
> >  I have had both types of devices, and just from aesthetics (smell,
> > comfort), the marine head wins hands down. Hauling a full porta
> > pottie off the boat & to wherever the dump station is (far away
> > from the dock, you can bet!) and the actual dumping are unpleasant
> > affairs. If you pump out after each trip & don't leave the holding
> > tank contents to ferment you won't have any odors.
> >
> >  The marine head will need to be rebuilt (or replaced ..every 5 -
> > or so years years)...the Jabsco heads are considered 'disposable'
> > in the industry. I just replaced the one in my boat & it was not
> difficult.
> >
> >  For more info, check out Peggie Hall "The Head Mistress," the
> > undisputed expert in marine sanitation on www.sailboatowners.com<http://www.sailboatowners.com/
> >.
> > Also, Google  her for info on her extensive background. If you have
> > any specific questions, esp about regs on overboard discharge, just
> > email her. She will give you the straight poop.Tell her elle sent ya.
> >
> >  elle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Bob Keller <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com<mailto:r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >Joe,
> >I have a little, ahem, experience with these things so let me chime in...
> >
> >I had a marine head as a prerequisite from the start and am glad
> >that I have one. My wife is especially glad since she uses it more
> >than me. But I am also glad that I don't have to empty a portapotti.
> >I had Stan put in the Y-valve and macerator pump and it is
> >great-especially since the holding tank is so small and pump-out
> >facilities are usually far apart. If you plan to overnight, cruise,
> >weekend or otherwise stay on your boat I would highly recommend the
> >marine head and Y-valve system. One thing that I would change is to
> >have GB give you easy access to the thru hull for the macerator
> >discharge because to access mine is extremely difficult - I have to
> >remove the battery and battery box and it is not easily done. Have
> >them cut you an access hole or some way to see it. I don't like
> >having thru hulls that I cannot see and cannot access and this is
> >the only one (out of 4) that is inaccesible.
> >
> >As to the legality on inland lakes - it is true that there are some
> >issues depending on the state. I was told that a Y-valve is illegal.
> >Since then I have researched it more and talked to another DNR
> >person and I believe that what is illegal is having a Y-valve that
> >allows you to bypass the holding tank and go directly overboard. The
> >way mine is installed is preferable in that all waste goes to the
> >holding tank and then there is deck discharge (pump-out) or bottom
> >discharge through the Y-valve. If that Y-valve is kept locked I
> >believe it is OK-at least it was in GA with the DNR guy that I spoke
> with.
> >
> >The downside to marine heads is the complication compared to a
> >portapotti. I had to rebuild mine last year (gaskets wear out) but
> >it was easy and inexpensive and will probably last another 10 years.
> >
> >Bob K
> >Yankee Clipper
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:12:16 -0400> From:
> > joe.babb at comcast.net<mailto:joe.babb at comcast.net>> To:
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Subject:
> > [Rhodes22-list] Potty question> > Hello All,> Sharon and I are
> > looking forward to getting a recycled Rhodes next > spring. We've
> > indicated to Stan that we'd like to have the marine head > and
> > holding tank and macerator. Our only experience with potties on >
> > boats is with our portable potty on our 16 foot open fishing boat.
> > It > is really a plastic bucket with a toilet-like seat on it,
> > enclosed in > another plastic container. We can usually find a
> > secluded cove or else > use a privacy curtain hung from our bimini
> > top when we need to use the > potty. The first person to use it is
> > the lucky one. The second person > is greeted by a wet seat from
> > condensation and also by the sight and > smell from earlier use.>
> > Most of our sailing will be on area lakes in East Tennessee. But
> > at > least once and maybe twice a year we'll be able to do some
> > coastal > cruising for a week at
> >  a
> >  time.> Could some of you share your opinions on pros and cons of
> > portable > potties versus marine heads?> Thanks and Best Regards,>
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