[Rhodes22-list] Potty question
Mary Lou Troy
mtroy at atlanticbb.net
Sun Sep 16 16:26:33 EDT 2007
Ours is a 1991. To make up the bed, the cushion back nearest the
companionway goes on the panel that lifts. The middle cushion back
goes in the middle and the forward cushion back goes aft on the step.
Regards,
Mary Lou
At 04:20 PM 9/16/2007, you wrote:
>We sure are on the same wavelength, but your setee cushion design
>seems to be one of Stan's improvements since our '83 model. The
>square cushion on the back of the setee won't fit the panel that
>swings back from the front of the potty area, the cushion is too big
>in this position and has to nest between the other 2 back cushions
>when all are laid flat to make up the double bunk.
>Oh well, maybe in the Robertson's next life and boat. Maybe Stan
>will transmigrate in 2300 to another boat builder.
>We've slept out on board 11 nights so far in Sept. with a couple of
>more this week! Oh the joys of retirement and IRA's.
>Regards and thanks for your reply.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mary Lou Troy<mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Potty question
>
>
> Hi Alan,
> I think we are talking about the same thing. We have the
> semi-enclosed head. The settee is u-shaped with one leg of the "U"
> right in front of the porta-potty and in front of the v-berth. To use
> the head, we lift this hinged section of the settee out of the way.
> As this part of the settee is also part of the berth in the cabin we
> modified the supports of the berth so that this could still be lifted
> with the other parts of the berth in place. When we make up the berth
> this section of bench is covered by an upholstered cushion from the
> settee back. It's a single square cushion so it lifts easily with the
> section of the bench. We don't have any additional foam so that's not
> in the way.
>
> Mary Lou
>
>
> At 12:58 PM 9/16/2007, you wrote:
> >Is your "lift up bench" at the cabin end of the V Berth, left side,
> >where the bilge pump switch is located? Our setee cushions cover
> >this area as well as the 4" custom cut foam rubber matress we use
> >over the setee cushions. If not, I don't think we have a lift up
> >bench on our model.
> > RSVP
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mary Lou
> Troy<mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net<mailto:mtroy at atlanticbb.net>>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail
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> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Potty question
> >
> >
> > One of the mods we have made to the boat is to change the supports
> > for the cabin berth and the support for the lift up bench so the
> > porta-potty can be used in place at night without fully disassembling
> > the made-up berth in the cabin. We just lift the lift up bench, the
> > rest stays in place. Makes life much easier.
> >
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 R22 Fretless
> > Rock Hall, MD
> >
> >
> > At 11:29 PM 9/14/2007, you wrote:
> > >Mary Lou.
> > > 26 years of Rhodes sailing-camping-overnighters convince us
> > > that the porta-potty is the way to go. Additionally we carry 4 West
> > > Marine "Little John" hospital type urinal bottles (have female
> > > adaptor) for when we have so much equipment we have to move to get
> > > to the porta-potty or when beds are made up for the night and its
> > > tough to get to it.. Don't let any of the marine head people sway
> > > your good judgment as below; we agree completely!
> > >Alan & Barbara Robertson
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Mary Lou
> >
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> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:18 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Potty question
> > >
> > >
> > > Availability of pumpouts should also be considered. Depends
> > where you sail.
> > >
> > > We have a portapottie. While dumping and cleaning isn't my favorite
> > > job, it's not all that bad. Certainly simpler to keep in working
> > > order. Here's what I said in response to an earlier question on the
> > > same subject:
> > > "To quote from "Sailing Small", "we decided that the cabin seemed
> > > roomier in the boats with a semi-enclosed head. We chose a portable
> > > toilet because it was simpler than a marine head. While
> pumpouts are
> > > widely available on the Chesapeake, there is always the chance we
> > > might want to trailer to places where pumpouts are unavailable. The
> > > portable toilet is easy enough to bring home to clean and we don't
> > > have to bother with fixing head problems at the marina."
> > > The more time we spend a marina with big boats, the
> happier I am with
> > > the portable toilet. People see to be always fixing head
> problems. We
> > > don't have any. Most of the time we just bring the head
> home to empty
> > > it. It takes only a minute or two to empty it and give it a good
> > > rinse. If we are out cruising, we generally stop every second or
> > > third day to stay at a marina, get a shower and empty the
> head. If we
> > > plan to be out longer, we do have an extra bottom with the holding
> > > tank for our portable toilet. It doubles the length of time
> > we can be out."
> > >
> > >
> > > Mary Lou
> > > 1991 R22 Fretless
> > > Rock Hall, MD
> > >
> > >
> > > At 09:01 PM 9/11/2007, you wrote:
> > > >Joe,
> > > >
> > > > I think if the list were polled the ladies would opt
> for the head
> > > > & the guys would be happy with a bucket.
> > > >
> > > > I have had both types of devices, and just from
> aesthetics (smell,
> > > > comfort), the marine head wins hands down. Hauling a full porta
> > > > pottie off the boat & to wherever the dump station is (far away
> > > > from the dock, you can bet!) and the actual dumping are
> unpleasant
> > > > affairs. If you pump out after each trip & don't leave
> the holding
> > > > tank contents to ferment you won't have any odors.
> > > >
> > > > The marine head will need to be rebuilt (or replaced .every 5 -
> > > > or so years years)...the Jabsco heads are considered 'disposable'
> > > > in the industry. I just replaced the one in my boat & it was
> > > not difficult.
> > > >
> > > > For more info, check out Peggie Hall "The Head Mistress," the
> > > > undisputed expert in marine sanitation on
> > >
> >
> www.sailboatowners.com<http://www.sailboatowners.com/<http://www.sailboatowners.com%3chttp//www.sailboatowners.com/<http://www.sailboatowners.com%3chttp//www.sailboatowners.com/%3Chttp://www.sailboatowners.com%3chttp//www.sailboatowners.com/>>>.
> > > > Also, Google her for info on her extensive background.
> If you have
> > > > any specific questions, esp about regs on overboard
> discharge, just
> > > > email her. She will give you the straight poop.Tell her
> elle sent ya.
> > > >
> > > > elle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Bob Keller
> > >
> >
> <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com<mailto:r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com<mailto:r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com%3Cmailto:r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com<mailto:r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com%3Cmailto:r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com%3Cmailto:r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com%3Cmailto:r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>>>>
>
> > wrote:
> > > >Joe,
> > > >I have a little, ahem, experience with these things so let
> > me chime in...
> > > >
> > > >I had a marine head as a prerequisite from the start and am glad
> > > >that I have one. My wife is especially glad since she uses it more
> > > >than me. But I am also glad that I don't have to empty a
> portapotti.
> > > >I had Stan put in the Y-valve and macerator pump and it is
> > > >great-especially since the holding tank is so small and pump-out
> > > >facilities are usually far apart. If you plan to
> overnight, cruise,
> > > >weekend or otherwise stay on your boat I would highly
> recommend the
> > > >marine head and Y-valve system. One thing that I would
> change is to
> > > >have GB give you easy access to the thru hull for the macerator
> > > >discharge because to access mine is extremely difficult
> - I have to
> > > >remove the battery and battery box and it is not easily done. Have
> > > >them cut you an access hole or some way to see it. I don't like
> > > >having thru hulls that I cannot see and cannot access and this is
> > > >the only one (out of 4) that is inaccesible.
> > > >
> > > >As to the legality on inland lakes - it is true that
> there are some
> > > >issues depending on the state. I was told that a Y-valve
> is illegal.
> > > >Since then I have researched it more and talked to another DNR
> > > >person and I believe that what is illegal is having a Y-valve that
> > > >allows you to bypass the holding tank and go directly
> overboard. The
> > > >way mine is installed is preferable in that all waste goes to the
> > > >holding tank and then there is deck discharge (pump-out) or bottom
> > > >discharge through the Y-valve. If that Y-valve is kept locked I
> > > >believe it is OK-at least it was in GA with the DNR guy that
> > I spoke with.
> > > >
> > > >The downside to marine heads is the complication compared to a
> > > >portapotti. I had to rebuild mine last year (gaskets wear out) but
> > > >it was easy and inexpensive and will probably last
> another 10 years.
> > > >
> > > >Bob K
> > > >Yankee Clipper
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:12:16 -0400> From:
> > > >
> >
> joe.babb at comcast.net<mailto:joe.babb at comcast.net<mailto:joe.babb at comcast.net%3Cmailto:joe.babb at comcast.net<mailto:joe.babb at comcast.net%3Cmailto:joe.babb at comcast.net%3Cmailto:joe.babb at comcast.net%3Cmailto:joe.babb at comcast.net>>>>
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> > To:
> > >
> >
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> > Subject:
> > > > [Rhodes22-list] Potty question> > Hello All,> Sharon and I are
> > > > looking forward to getting a recycled Rhodes next > spring. We've
> > > > indicated to Stan that we'd like to have the marine head > and
> > > > holding tank and macerator. Our only experience with potties on >
> > > > boats is with our portable potty on our 16 foot open
> fishing boat.
> > > > It > is really a plastic bucket with a toilet-like seat on it,
> > > > enclosed in > another plastic container. We can usually find a
> > > > secluded cove or else > use a privacy curtain hung from
> our bimini
> > > > top when we need to use the > potty. The first person
> to use it is
> > > > the lucky one. The second person > is greeted by a wet seat from
> > > > condensation and also by the sight and > smell from earlier use.>
> > > > Most of our sailing will be on area lakes in East Tennessee. But
> > > > at > least once and maybe twice a year we'll be able to do some
> > > > coastal > cruising for a week at
> > > > a
> > > > time.> Could some of you share your opinions on pros and cons of
> > > > portable > potties versus marine heads?> Thanks and
> Best Regards,>
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