[Rhodes22-list] Michael Meltzer & Herb - Masthead lights (anchor & steaming) - Question and clar

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Wed Apr 16 15:31:07 EDT 2008


Gotcha. However, you DO realize that's not the regs. It's a better 
source for an interpretation of the regs than "some guy on the 
internet", but it's still a recap of the "official regs".

Michael D. Weisner wrote:
> Herb,
>
> It isn't that you stated anything wrong, it is simply the original USCG 
> source of the information in a somewhat easier to read and understand format 
> (including pictures.)
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 
> 2:12 PM
>   
>> What part of that did I state incorrectly? Looks like the page (which is
>> a recap of the original regs) says different than what I stated?
>>
>> Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>     
>>> Herb, Bob, etc.,
>>>
>>> Please read rules on USCG site:
>>> http://www.uscgboating.org/SAFETY/fedreqs/equ_nav.htm
>>> This page is very easy to read and understand.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 
>>> 2008
>>> 10:41 PM
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Sorry Bob, but I think you mis-read the regs.
>>>>
>>>> A sailboat under power is a powerboat.
>>>>
>>>> A powerboat between 12 meters and 20 meters has to display a separate
>>>> stern light (90 degrees, 45 degrees each direction) and steaming light
>>>> (270 degrees, 135 each direction)
>>>>
>>>> A sailboat between 7 meters and 20 meters can use a single 360 degree
>>>> light as a combination steaming/stern light.
>>>>
>>>> A sailboat under 7 meters (the Rhodes 22 fits that) can use a flashlight
>>>> shining on the sail as your steaming light, but how un-cool is THAT?
>>>>
>>>> However, if it's under power, it's a powerboat. If it's a powerboat, it
>>>> has to have a steaming light.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob Keller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Ed,
>>>>> I think the 360 as an anchor light is required but the 360 as a 
>>>>> steaming
>>>>> light is optional/overkill.  The R-22 only needs the port, starboard 
>>>>> and
>>>>> stern lights while underway, doesn't need anything on the mast...  The 
>>>>> CG
>>>>> link confirmed that.  Of course, the rules might be different on Lake
>>>>> Hartwell since even Y-valves are not allowed there.
>>>>> Bob K
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:38:02 -0700> From: ekroposki at charter.net> 
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Michael Meltzer &
>>>>>> Herb - Masthead lights (anchor & steaming) - Question and 
>>>>>> clarification>
>>>>>>  > > Bob Keller and Dana...> > Michael Meltzer is our resident expert 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> what is legal regarding lights. > So 'USCG Captain' Meltzer what are 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> correct answers to Bob and Dana's> questions?> > This much I know, the
>>>>>> lighting pattern is different for different length> boats. Why? so
>>>>>> knowledgeable 'Captains' can tell what kind of boat it is. > Herb, 
>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>> that a question for the 'Captain's' exam.> > As to Anchor light being
>>>>>> visible on a 22 foot boat for 360 degrees, I do not> think that it has
>>>>>> to be a single light. On the R22 there is a light on the> 'stern' when
>>>>>> added to the light up the mast, together they qualify as 360> degrees 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> white light. Is that how the R22 is legal? I suspect that Stan> just
>>>>>> might know what qualifies as legal lights.> > Now Bob K. has
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>> t
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>  o find out if his 360 degrees of masthead light on a 22 foot> boat
>>>>> screws up the Coast Guard's intent in lighting( I already know the>
>>>>> correct answer, but does he?). The Coast Guard does publish a small
>>>>> booklet> on lighting, just do not know where my copy is quickly. Also, 
>>>>> I
>>>>> believe> these questions are answered in 'Chapman's'. When I find my
>>>>> copies, I will> seek yea answers. This is comes up every so often on 
>>>>> this
>>>>> forum so the> answers are probably in the archives. > > Ed K> 
>>>>> Greenville,
>>>>> SC, USA> attachment for Slim:> >
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p16656988/approve.gif approve.gif > > > > Hi
>>>>> there, I bought an 87 R22 last year and absolutely love it. I'm>
>>>>> currently working on getting it ready for the season. The mast is wired
>>>>> for> an anchor light, but whatever was there must have busted off 
>>>>> before
>>>>> I got> the boat. There is also a light fixture facing forward about a
>>>>> foot from> the top of the mast, but it wasn't working last year 
>>>>> either.>
>>>>>  > I have two questions:> > 1. The an
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> ch
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>  or light and steaming are separate lights, right? My> understanding is
>>>>> that an anchor light has to be visible from all directions,> and the
>>>>> steaming light is the light facing forward that must be on when>
>>>>> motoring.> > 2. Any recommendations on new lighting? Is there a 
>>>>> combined
>>>>> LED light that> will serve both purposes?> > Thanks,> Dana> > > >
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p16656988/approve.gif approve.gif > -- > 
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