[Rhodes22-list] Political: You CANNOT ignore the creeping Political exclusions.

Tue Aug 26 08:43:35 EDT 2008

Ed,

Have you been following the story of the Annenberg Challenge archives at the
University of Illinois Chicago campus?  They stalled releasing the documents
for research to a reporter for over a week (a violation of their own rules)
and only reluctantly agreed this week to allow access.  One has to wonder
what was "scrubbed" since it is a well known fact that Obama worked for Bill
Ayers (Ayers wrote the grant and Obama was Chairman of Annenberg) and were
also friends (not just some English professor who lives in the
neighborhood).

Attached is the latest from the campaign of the "Chosen One".  This is
behavior that Mao or Stalin would be proud of!

Brad

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*Obama to DOJ: Block terrorist ad*
By: Ben Smith
August 26, 2008 07:44 AM EST

Sen. Barack Obama has launched an all-out effort to block a Republican
billionaire's efforts to tie him to domestic and foreign terrorists in a
wave of negative television ads.

Obama's campaign has written the Department of
Justice<http://www.politico.com/static/PPM106_keeney.html>demanding a
criminal investigation of the "American Issues Project," the
vehicle through which Dallas investor Harold Simmons is financing the
advertisements. The Obama campaign — and tens of thousands of supporters —
also is pressuring television networks and affiliates to reject the ads. The
effort has met with some success: CNN and Fox News are not airing the
attacks.

Obama has also launched his own response ad, directly addressing Simmons'
attempt to link him to domestic terror.

The project is "a knowing and willful attempt to violate the strictures of
federal election law," Obama general counsel Bob Bauer wrote to Deputy
Assistant Attorney General John Keeney last week in a letter provided to
Politico. Bauer argued that by advocating Obama's defeat, the ad should be
subject to the contribution limits of federal campaign law, not the
anything-goes regime of issue advocacy.
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   - Denver drama: Clintons try for second
act<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12822.html>
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on'<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12826.html>
   - Michelle keeps things down to
earth<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12830.html>

 Bauer's letter called on the Justice Department to open "an investigation
of the American Issues Project; its officers and directors; and its
anonymous donors, whoever they may be."

"This is a sad ploy to circumvent the First Amendment by a campaign who has
no arguments with the merits of our ad. It's the classic maneuver: If you
can't win on the merits, file a lawsuit," said a spokesman for the American
Issues Project, Christian Pinkston, who said his group's non-profit status
allowed it to participate in elections as long as it does a majority of
policy work, which it plans to do.

A spokeswoman for Keeney, Laura Sweeney, declined to comment on Bauer's
letter.

The Obama campaign plans to punish the stations that air the ad financially,
an Obama aide said, organizing his supporters to target the stations that
air it and their advertisers.

But the ad continues to air widely. Evan Tracey, who tracks campaign
advertising at TNS Media Intelligence, said it has been broadcast 150 times
in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Michigan. Federal Election Commission
reports indicate that Simmons has spent more than $2.8 million buying ads.

Obama's campaign has written a pair of
letters<http://www.politico.com/static/PPM106_aip_letter.html>to
station managers carrying the ads.

The letter <http://www.politico.com/static/PPM106_aip_doc.html> calls the
ad's attempt to link Obama to terrorism "an appalling lie, a disgraceful
smear of the lowest kind on the senator's patriotism and commitment to the
rule of law."

Airing the ad "is inconsistent with your station's obligations under Federal
Communications Commission regulations," the letter continues, saying
Simmons' group lacks formal incorporation.

One large group of network affiliates, the Sinclair Broadcast Group — which
aired an documentary attacking John Kerry in 2004 — has been running the
ads, Obama aides said. The campaign has launched a special effort to
pressure Sinclair.

"Obama supporters have now sent more than 93,000 e-mails to the Sinclair
stations that have decided to run the ad," said Obama's spokesman Tommy
Vietor. "Other stations that follow Sinclair's lead should expect a similar
response from people who don't want the political discourse cheapened with
these false, negative attacks."

Spokesmen for Sinclair, CNN and Fox didn't respond to requests for comment.

The ad focuses on Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers, a Hyde Park
acquaintance at whose home Obama attended a gathering early in his political
career. Ayers is a complicated figure: professor and adviser to the mayor of
Chicago despite not having repented his past as a domestic terrorist with
the Weather Underground.

"How much do your really know about Barack Obama? What does he really
believe?" asks the ad, which also uses imagery from the Al-Qaeda terror
attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

"Why would Barack Obama be friends with someone who bombed the Capitol and
is proud of it?" asks the ad's narrator.

Its financier, Simmons, who made his first fortune in chain pharmacies, was
a major donor to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, the group that damaged
Kerry in 2004 by questioning his patriotism. He has raised more than $50,000
for Obama's rival, Sen. John McCain, though there's no evidence that his
anti-Obama effort has McCain's explicit blessing.

Obama has launched a response
ad<http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/A_response_ad_in_Ohio.html>,
which addresses McCain directly, and will air in Ohio, Tracey said.
"With all our problems, why is John McCain talking about the '60s, trying to
link Barack Obama to radical Bill Ayers?" says Obama's ad. "McCain knows
Obama denounced Ayers' crimes, committed when Obama was just 8 years old."

McCain's camp, meanwhile, appears to welcome the controversy.

"The fact that [Obama] is launching his own convention by defending his long
association with a man who says he didn't bomb enough U.S. targets tells us
more about Barack Obama than any of tonight's speeches will," said McCain
spokesman Brian Rogers.

*Correction: An* *earlier version of this story said, citing the Obama
campaign, that a Roanoke, Va., television station was not airing the ad.
That was incorrect; the station, WFXR, is airing the ad.
*

(c) 2008 Capitol News Company, LLC

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:

>
>
> Eric:
>
> Robert Skinner wrote you to exclude political comments other than those of
> progressives.  It is important to understand why there are those who want
> you to disregard creeping socialism.  It is like putting a frog in cold
> water and slowly turning up the heat.  It is too late before the frog
> realizes the water has boiled.
>
> It is important to always know where the writer or speaker is coming from.
> For example in discussions on this forum the writer of that comment said of
> Eliot Spitzer's philandering that private acts should be excluded from
> public retribution.  However is has been demonstrated that, "It is a
> private
> act with public consequences." Jim DeMint and David Woodard.
>
> Why is this discussion very important today?  It is important because Obama
> is the Democrat candidate for President of USA.  It is very important to
> evaluate not how Obama appears and is portrayed by the media but what he
> factually stands for.  Obama's political ideology is found in his words and
> his mentors.
>
> Obama states that he is a 'Progressive' and stands for change.  A current
> analysis of the word 'Progressive' shows that it's current meaning to be
> analogous to Marxism.  The same system of political economy that gave us
> Lenin, Hitler, Castro, etc.  It means government control of the political
> economy.
>
> In Chicago, there was in the 1900's a man named W.E.B. Dubose.  He was a
> black man that espoused Marxism and was an acknowledged Communist.  In
> fact,
> he renounced his U. S. Citizenship and moved to the Soviet Union.
>
> W.E.B. Dubose had followers and acolytes in the Chicago area.  One of those
> incorporated Dubose thinking into religion.  That was the Rev. James Cone.
> Rev. Cone's writings on theology were incorporated into Obama's former
> church by Rev. Wright.  If Obama did not believe this Marxist theology, why
> did he stay a member of that church for over twenty years?
>
> The fact that he believed that Marxist theology is demonstrated in the
> words
> that Obama uses.  While his current speech writers work hard to hide that
> by
> toning down his language, an understanding of his past words and beliefs
> shows that he still believes in Marxism.
>
> Why is this important?  Tocqueville observed that "America arrived at a
> state of democracy without having to endure a democratic revolution… They
> are born equal without having to become equal."  American democracy was
> based on property rights and capitalism.
>
> Progressives slowly snip away property rights and its associated
> obligations
> toward the government performing their favorite charities.  The freedoms we
> Americans have are based on the economic system of democratic capitalism,
> not Marxism.
>
> An understanding of Marxism leads one to understand the statement that new
> terminology means the same old concepts.  To say that one is a 'Flexible
> Thinker, Economic Conservative' cannot be accurate.  If one accepts
> 'Progressive' thinking, then ones economics are 'Socialist'.
>
> It is important to distinguish the democratic capitalist system from
> Progressivism, Socialism, Marxism because those latter systems have
> demonstrated economic failure and tyranny.
>
> I ask all Americans to choose freedom.
>
>
> Respectfully submitted:
> Ed K
>
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> Robert Skinner wrote:
> >
> > Eric (and my other friends) -
> >
> > Too bad I actually like the guy and respect much that
> > he has to offer on sailing.  That makes it even harder
> > to accept some of his antisocial behavior.
> >
> > While Ed (Tootle) seems sane and friendly, he will
> > introduce politics into many otherwise rational
> > discourses.  Despite his many messages chastising
> > others who misuse or do not update a subject line,
> > he refuses to put the "Political" warning flag in the
> > subject line of messages containing his little
> > off-topic comments.
> >
> > Like a child, he thinks this is cute.  Like Papa Bush,
> > who attempted to stimulate the economy, and only
> > succeeded in annoying it, Ed only succeeds in
> > annoying those of us who would rather not be
> > subjected to his political asides without appropriate
> > warning in the subject line.
> >
> > I guess he finds joy breaking verbal wind in public.
> > But we have hopes for him.  Perhaps in time he
> > will embrace change and grow in his thinking.
> >
> > /Robert  (Flexible Thinker, Economic Conservative)
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Tootle wrote:  Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Eric Lord Admiral Nelson
> >> Eric:
> >>
> >> ... Now the most important thing, while many posts seem irrelevant, that
> >> is
> >> because of overwelming number of Liberals on this forum.  There are many
> >> who
> >> worship the Green God Gore and the Messiah.  See attachment:
> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p19143566/obama.jpg obama.jpg
> >>
> >> Ed K
> >> Greenville, SC, USA
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