[Rhodes22-list] bill?

JbTek j.bulfer at jbtek.com
Fri Dec 5 14:52:14 EST 2008 

Robert wrote:
I surmise that you have already enjoyed the
horse you rode in on, so that leaves just
you needing attention...  Enjoy!

I think that is the nicest way I've ever heard that said to a person.
Jb


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Skinner" <Robert at squirrelhaven.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] bill?


Herb,

You are as twisty as a pole dancer's knickers.
Gotta give you credit for that.  But you must
acknowledge that I did not call Brad a bigot.
What I said was "this is uncomfortably close
to the line between humor and bad taste."

You will notice, should you care to indulge in
a dose of reality, that I did not mention
Palin, "mooselini", "ya'llsville", or "double
standards."

You have no cause for complaint.  Moreover,
Brad is big enough to take care of himself.
Do you pile on just for fun?

Further, I know of no regulation that says I
have to answer your question, assertion, contumely,
or other form of communication.  However I said
what I have to say on the subject of standards -
one to a customer.

I'll grant you that your interpretation of god's
word is just as valid as Osama's.  Or are there
two gods?  Maybe one to a customer?  Now there's
a question for you!

I surmise that you have already enjoyed the
horse you rode in on, so that leaves just
you needing attention...  Enjoy!

/Robert, ME

Herb Parsons wrote:
> Which, of course, entirely avoids answering my question.
>
> It was pretty simple.
>
> If Brad laughing at a tasteless joke (in my opinion, it was), like that
> makes him appear to come off as a bigot; what does stupid statements
> like "mooselini" about Palin, or comments about ME being from
> "ya'llsville" make THOSE people.
>
> You were the one that made comments about possible bigotry, so I'm
> asking you the question. What do you think of people that make jokes
> about on others based on unfounded generalities?
>
> Again, bigotry is bigotry.
>
>
> Robert Skinner wrote:
>> Actually, Herb, there are as many standards as there
>> are people, right or left.  While we tend to group
>> them in various ways, I have never found two people
>> who had identical standards -- not even Catholic
>> priests.
>>
>> /Robert, ME
>>
>> Herb Parsons wrote:
>>
>>> Waitaminute
>>>
>>> If Brad laughing at a tasteless joke (in my opinion, it was), like that
>>> makes him appear to come off as a bigot; what does stupid statements
>>> like "mooselini" about Palin, or comments about ME being from
>>> "ya'llsville" make THOSE people.
>>>
>>> The double-standards of the left are simply amazing.
>>>
>>> Face it, bigotry is bigotry, whether it's about race or what part of the
>>> country a person is from.
>>>
>>> Robert Skinner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Obama is president-elect, not a pimp.
>>>>
>>>> Brad - I'm sure that you don't want to
>>>> come off as a bigot - I have seen no
>>>> evidence of that to date - but this is
>>>> uncomfortably close to the line between
>>>> humor and bad taste
>>>>
>>>> /Robert, ME
>>>>
>>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> You gotta admit, history is being made.  Here's a review of
Presidential limos.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.jibjab.com/view/258672
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like to think I'm in the "what's best for my country" camp, and
>>>>>> against the hypocrisy camp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George Bush got into office by saying one thing and doing another.  I
>>>>>> opposed that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obama got into office the same way.  I oppose that, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both men are inexperienced, relying on the knowledge of those
>>>>>> surrounding them.  It's a bad formula.  The other people in the room
>>>>>> won't agree on many things.  The least experienced person winds up
>>>>>> making the decision on a "gut feel".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both Bush and Obama were selected by political machines as the
electable
>>>>>> face of unelectable policies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It didn't work well for the Republicans.  It's not going to work well
>>>>>> for the Democrats, either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you well know, we've got really really big problems.  Things will
>>>>>> probably never go back to where they were.  Our country's position is
>>>>>> likely to deteriorate, along with the position of most individuals.
>>>>>> There are smarter moves, and dumber moves.  Moves that will leave us
>>>>>> better off, and moves that will leave us worse off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Democrats are settling scores--they are not working for the
common good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you know, I am voting against my pocketbook.  The Democrat's
policies
>>>>>> benefit me.  If I lose, I win.  But, at least I can live with myself,
>>>>>> having tried to work for what I believe is right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe if enough people speak up early enough we can stop throwing our
>>>>>> money into a bottomless pit, and start actually working our way out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> michael meltzer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill I am confused, I will admit it does not take much more me to be
in that conduction but.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the most part you have been in the democratic camp, what
happened? It seems that "O" has you more than a little pissed off.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -mjm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:01 PM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics - Palin - Twain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Brooks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of the neo-cons who got just about everything wrong for the past
8
>>>>>>> years!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ben, why didn't you quote this from a more recent column:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Barack Obama and his team should put into action a foreign policy
>>>>>>> doctrine that builds on some of the ideas developed during George W.
>>>>>>> Bush's term."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This isn't a football game, and it doesn't matter who you "root"
for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This country is proceeding on an incoherent course which most
ordinary
>>>>>>> Americans can see can't possibly work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The "Bailout" is already a fiasco -- and make no mistake, it's a
>>>>>>> Democrat fiasco.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bailing out auto unions is a payoff, plain and simple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Citibank paid $400 Million to call the new Mets stadium "Citi
Field" --
>>>>>>> and now the taxpayers are giving them their money back--BRILLIANT!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obama is following exactly the same course Herbert Hoover followed
after
>>>>>>> the stock market crash.  Public works projects.  Rooting for the
home team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It didn't work then, and it won't work now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe, just maybe, there's a better way.  Obama was elected to bring
>>>>>>> change, not more of the same, and it's never too early to notice the
>>>>>>> emperor has no clothes on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Listening to David Brooks is not likely to be the better way, he's
just
>>>>>>> another "well-educated" dope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Folks;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mr Effros opines that "once again the country has decided to make
the
>>>>>>>> dumbest person in the room the decider".  I agree with Mr. Brooks
of the
>>>>>>>> NYTimes who wrote recently:
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "November 21, 2008
>>>>>>>> Op-Ed Columnist
>>>>>>>> The Insider's Crusade
>>>>>>>> By DAVID BROOKS
>>>>>>>> Jan. 20, 2009, will be a historic day. Barack Obama (Columbia,
Harvard Law)
>>>>>>>> will take the oath of office as his wife, Michelle (Princeton,
Harvard Law),
>>>>>>>> looks on proudly. Nearby, his foreign policy advisers will stand
beaming,
>>>>>>>> including perhaps Hillary Clinton (Wellesley, Yale Law), Jim
Steinberg
>>>>>>>> (Harvard, Yale Law) and Susan Rice (Stanford, Oxford D. Phil.).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The domestic policy team will be there, too, including Jason Furman
>>>>>>>> (Harvard, Harvard Ph.D.), Austan Goolsbee (Yale, M.I.T. Ph.D.),
Blair Levin
>>>>>>>> (Yale, Yale Law), Peter Orszag (Princeton, London School of
Economics Ph.D.)
>>>>>>>> and, of course, the White House Counsel Greg Craig (Harvard, Yale
Law).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This truly will be an administration that looks like America, or at
least
>>>>>>>> that slice of America that got double 800s on their SATs. Even more
than
>>>>>>>> past administrations, this will be a valedictocracy — rule by those
who
>>>>>>>> graduate first in their high school classes. If a foreign enemy
attacks the
>>>>>>>> United States during the Harvard-Yale game any time over the next
four
>>>>>>>> years, we're screwed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Already the culture of the Obama administration is coming into
focus. Its
>>>>>>>> members are twice as smart as the poor reporters who have to cover
them,
>>>>>>>> three times if you include the columnists. They typically served in
the
>>>>>>>> Clinton administration and then, like Cincinnatus, retreated to the
comforts
>>>>>>>> of private life — that is, if Cincinnatus had worked at Goldman
Sachs,
>>>>>>>> Williams & Connolly or the Brookings Institution. So many of them
send their
>>>>>>>> kids to Georgetown Day School, the posh leftish private school in
D.C., that
>>>>>>>> they'll be able to hold White House staff meetings in the carpool
line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And yet as much as I want to resent these overeducated Achievatrons
(not to
>>>>>>>> mention the incursion of a French-style government dominated by
highly
>>>>>>>> trained Enarchs), I find myself tremendously impressed by the Obama
>>>>>>>> transition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The fact that they can already leak one big appointee per day is
testimony
>>>>>>>> to an awful lot of expert staff work. Unlike past Democratic
>>>>>>>> administrations, they are not just handing out jobs to the hacks
approved by
>>>>>>>> the favored interest groups. They're thinking holistically —
there's a nice
>>>>>>>> balance of policy wonks, governors and legislators. They're also
thinking
>>>>>>>> strategically. As Norman Ornstein of the American Enterprise
Institute
>>>>>>>> notes, it was smart to name Tom Daschle both the head of Health and
Human
>>>>>>>> Services and the health czar. Splitting those duties up, as Bill
Clinton
>>>>>>>> did, leads to all sorts of conflicts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most of all, they are picking Washington insiders. Or to be more
precise,
>>>>>>>> they are picking the best of the Washington insiders.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Obama seems to have dispensed with the romantic and failed notion
that you
>>>>>>>> need inexperienced "fresh faces" to change things. After all, it
was L.B.J.
>>>>>>>> who passed the Civil Rights Act. Moreover, because he is so young,
Obama is
>>>>>>>> not bringing along an insular coterie of lifelong aides who depend
upon him
>>>>>>>> for their well-being.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As a result, the team he has announced so far is more impressive
than any
>>>>>>>> other in recent memory. One may not agree with them on everything
or even
>>>>>>>> most things, but a few things are indisputably true.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First, these are open-minded individuals who are persuadable by
evidence.
>>>>>>>> Orszag, who will probably be budget director, is trusted by
Republicans and
>>>>>>>> Democrats for his honest presentation of the facts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Second, they are admired professionals. Conservative legal experts
have a
>>>>>>>> high regard for the probable attorney general, Eric Holder, despite
the
>>>>>>>> business over the Marc Rich pardon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Third, they are not excessively partisan. Obama signaled that he
means to
>>>>>>>> live up to his postpartisan rhetoric by letting Joe Lieberman keep
his
>>>>>>>> committee chairmanship.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fourth, they are not ideological. The economic advisers, Furman and
>>>>>>>> Goolsbee, are moderate and thoughtful Democrats. Hillary Clinton at
State is
>>>>>>>> problematic, mostly because nobody has a role for her husband. But,
as she
>>>>>>>> has demonstrated in the Senate, her foreign-policy views are
hardheaded and
>>>>>>>> pragmatic. (It would be great to see her set of interests
complemented by
>>>>>>>> Samantha Power's set of interests at the U.N.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Finally, there are many people on this team with practical
creativity. Any
>>>>>>>> think tanker can come up with broad doctrines, but it is rare to
find people
>>>>>>>> who can give the president a list of concrete steps he can do day
by day to
>>>>>>>> advance American interests. Dennis Ross, who advised Obama during
the
>>>>>>>> campaign, is the best I've ever seen at this, but Rahm Emanuel also
has this
>>>>>>>> capacity, as does Craig and legislative liaison Phil Schiliro.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Believe me, I'm trying not to join in the vast, heaving O-phoria
now
>>>>>>>> sweeping the coastal haute bourgeoisie. But the personnel decisions
have
>>>>>>>> been superb. The events of the past two weeks should be reassuring
to
>>>>>>>> anybody who feared that Obama would veer to the left or would
suffer
>>>>>>>> self-inflicted wounds because of his inexperience. He's off to a
start that
>>>>>>>> nearly justifies the hype."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Copyright 2008 New York Times
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't remember writing off Presdent GW Bush early.  In fact there
was
>>>>>>>> great hope he could be the compassionate conservative, but he ran
off the
>>>>>>>> rails in ways we have already discussed. We're in a mess all right,
but if
>>>>>>>> it is possible to use our brains to get out of it, then Obama has
surely
>>>>>>>> recruited the best the most intelligent people in the country to
get down to
>>>>>>>> business.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Remember David Brooks is well known and accepted as a conservative
>>>>>>>> Republican by all reasonable comentators.  I'm going to withhold
judgment
>>>>>>>> and give Mr Obama his fair chance at tackling the issues, and I
encourage
>>>>>>>> everyone to do the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ben C.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> benonvelvetelvis wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Save me some room in the storm shelter (we hit water when we dig
down
>>>>>>>>> here).
>>>>>>>>> I'll bring my share of the plastic sheeting and duct tape!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill
Effros
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 15:30
>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics - Palin - Twain
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rummy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We didn't have to wait for Bush to get into the White House to
write him
>>>>>>>>> off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They both ran as "outsiders" and "agents of change" who were going
to
>>>>>>>>> change Washington "business as usual".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But what do we see?  Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rahm Emanuel, Robert Gates,
>>>>>>>>> Hillary Clinton, Bill Richardson, Joe Biden--same people,
different day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Democrats are awarding the "spoils" to the people who elected
them:
>>>>>>>>> Lawyers; Wall Street; Organized Labor; Big Farmers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, the country is spiraling downward, the Democrats will
have to
>>>>>>>>> go to continuous feed web presses or larger denominations to print
the
>>>>>>>>> money fast enough, the "global warming" opposition will be chucked
under
>>>>>>>>> the bus as the "public works projects" start to gear up.  The rest
of
>>>>>>>>> the world has its own problems -- they're not going to bail us out
this
>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And what about Afghanistan?  You think Vietnam was tough terrain?
Not
>>>>>>>>> to mention the fact that Afghanistan is twice the size of all of
>>>>>>>>> Vietnam.  How many soldiers did we have in South Vietnam when you
were
>>>>>>>>> there?  How many do you think it will take to lose in Afghanistan?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is zero evidence that this guy is a smart man.  This country
has
>>>>>>>>> again made the dumbest person in the room "the decider".  I really
>>>>>>>>> didn't think people would make that same mistake again, but, here
we are!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Professional politicians continue to run this country.  They are
running
>>>>>>>>> it into the ground.  We should let the banks go bankrupt; only
>>>>>>>>> profitable automobile companies will survive; if people overpaid
for
>>>>>>>>> their homes they should give them up; if people don't have jobs
they
>>>>>>>>> should stop going to the mall; if we think we've got to fight wars
all
>>>>>>>>> over the place, lets draft the soldiers; building dams and roads
will
>>>>>>>>> not make the earth greener; public works projects don't end
depressions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We haven't heard one good idea from this guy.  When push comes to
shove,
>>>>>>>>> he always reneges.   And you think we should wait for 4 years
before we
>>>>>>>>> call him on it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not me.  We're heading for tough times, and everybody is to blame.
But
>>>>>>>>> blaming won't help.  Burning food, bailing out ridiculous union
>>>>>>>>> contracts, letting people live in homes they can't afford,
printing more
>>>>>>>>> money, paying off debts with worthless paper -- will only make
things
>>>>>>>>> worse.  I'll speak up now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>>>> Lighten up. Your blood vessels in your head are about to explode.
Obama
>>>>>>>>>> isn't even in the white house yet and you are writing him off
already.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, he
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> certainly has his hands full, cleaning up the mess from the last
eight
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> years,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but he's a smart man and will get the job done. Cut him a little
slack.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> four years if he hasn't done a good job, then you can replace
him. Until
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> then,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> lighten up Francis.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 12/3/2008 12:17:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>>>>>>> bill at effros.com writes:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Too bad  it didn't work...she was unable to get out the
Republican vote
>>>>>>>>>> while  Obama's field offices brought out the Democrats en
masse...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's less  than a month later, and the Democrats don't seem to
have a
>>>>>>>>>> clue that  they've got a real problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that China has announced  they aren't going to
bail us out
>>>>>>>>>> this time?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Brad  Haslett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The report of my death is greatly exaggerated" - Mark  Twain
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, Sarah came down to Georgia.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Brad
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Chambliss: Palin  'allowed us to peak'
>>>>>>>>>>> By: Andy Barr
>>>>>>>>>>> December 3, 2008 11:29 AM  EST
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Fresh off his runoff victory Tuesday night, Georgia  Republican
Sen.
>>>>>>>>>>> Saxby Chambliss credited Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin with  firing up
his
>>>>>>>>>>> base.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I can't overstate the impact she  had down here," Chambliss
said
>>>>>>>>>>> during an interview Wednesday morning  on Fox News.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "When she walks in a room, folks just explode,"  he added. "And
they
>>>>>>>>>>> really did pack the house everywhere we went.  She's a dynamic
lady, a
>>>>>>>>>>> great administrator, and I think she's got a  great future in
the
>>>>>>>>>>> Republican Party."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chambliss said  that after watching her campaign on his behalf
at
>>>>>>>>>>> several events  Monday, he does not see her star status
diminishing
>>>>>>>>>>> within the  party.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Republican also thanked John McCain and the other  big name
>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans that came to Georgia, but said Palin made the
biggest
>>>>>>>>>>> impact.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "We had John McCain and Mike Huckabee  and Gov. Romney and Rudy
>>>>>>>>>>> Giuliani, but Sarah Palin came in on the last  day, did a
fly-around
>>>>>>>>>>> and, man, she was dynamite," he said. "We packed  the houses
everywhere
>>>>>>>>>>> we went. And it really did allow us to peak and  get our base
fired
>>>>>>>>>>> up."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But as Chambliss heaped praise  on Palin and other big-ticket
>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans that came to Georgia on his  behalf, he questioned
why
>>>>>>>>>>> President-elect Barack Obama would not use  his star power to
aid his
>>>>>>>>>>> Democratic opponent Jim  Martin.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I have no idea why he didn't come down," Chambliss  said.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "His people were here. His organization was here," he  added.
"They
>>>>>>>>>>> really did a good job in the general election of turning  out
people.
>>>>>>>>>>> And whatever their game plan was this time, if he had been
here, I
>>>>>>>>>>> have no idea whether it would have worked  better."
>>>>>>>>>>>
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